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DroppinScience
04-15-2010, 06:15 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/15/AR2010041503344.html?hpid=artslot

Johnson expressed opposition to President Obama. "It's not just because he's black," he said. "I wish I could tell you that I loved this guy, that he was a great president, that I had faith in him. But I have none. Zero."

Good to know that racism is only one factor driving the Tea Party.

yeahwho
04-15-2010, 09:00 PM
One of the other driving factors is acceptance that you'll never get laid again.

travesty
04-16-2010, 09:14 AM
In two different threads you come up with the same idiotic statement that Tea Partiers won't get laid. Sounds like someone is a little sexually frustrated himself.

afronaut
04-24-2010, 11:57 AM
Not trying to stick up for the Tea Party movement, which is just another ridiculous example of the idiocy of mass- (hysteria) political movements. However, you can't really take the comments of one person and blanket it over an entire movement which consists of a spectrum of different people. For one, it's intellectually dishonest. For two, this is a basic logical fallacy of biased sample. That is:
1. Sample S, which is biased, is taken from population P.
2. Conclusion C is drawn about Population P based on S.

=

FAILURE OF LOGIC.

Again, not trying to stick up for the Tea Party movement, but I am positive that there are plenty of Tea Party folk that would disagree with any comments suggesting that race is an issue for the Tea Party movement. Here's a philosophical problem: which person's comments do you choose to represent as the norm? The racist or the non-racist? The answer your typical idiot will choose is the one whose comments make your own position look superior. Don't be a typical idiot.

For three, you make us liberals look as stupid, biased, and blind as your typical Tea Partyin conservative when you choose to commit crimes against logic to make a point.

That's your philosophy lecture for the day, enjoy.

DroppinScience
04-24-2010, 01:07 PM
Not trying to stick up for the Tea Party movement, which is just another ridiculous example of the idiocy of mass- (hysteria) political movements. However, you can't really take the comments of one person and blanket it over an entire movement which consists of a spectrum of different people. For one, it's intellectually dishonest. For two, this is a basic logical fallacy of biased sample. That is:
1. Sample S, which is biased, is taken from population P.
2. Conclusion C is drawn about Population P based on S.

=

FAILURE OF LOGIC.

Again, not trying to stick up for the Tea Party movement, but I am positive that there are plenty of Tea Party folk that would disagree with any comments suggesting that race is an issue for the Tea Party movement. Here's a philosophical problem: which person's comments do you choose to represent as the norm? The racist or the non-racist? The answer your typical idiot will choose is the one whose comments make your own position look superior. Don't be a typical idiot.

For three, you make us liberals look as stupid, biased, and blind as your typical Tea Partyin conservative when you choose to commit crimes against logic to make a point.

That's your philosophy lecture for the day, enjoy.

An absolutely fair point and I hear you loud and clear.

Yes, this was one quote taken from a newspaper article and by itself would not stand up as scientific proof of racism for the Tea Party as a whole. Nevertheless, this is just one more case of actions, words, and deeds I've been seeing from the Tea Party that has brought me to the conclusion that the Tea Party is racist at the absolute worst. In the best, they are not racist as a whole but have no interest in condemning or distancing themselves from those elements in their movement that are present. I mean, take RobMoney, his response to civil rights icon John Lewis being called a "nigger" by Tea Party protestors led him to retort: "Who cares?" That says quite a lot, if you ask me.

For more insight, the poll from the [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html?scp=1&sq=tea%20party%20poll&st=cse]New York Times[/quote] may be more helpful to get a big picture look at the Tea Party. Particularly this choice nugget:

The overwhelming majority of supporters say Mr. Obama does not share the values most Americans live by and that he does not understand the problems of people like themselves. More than half say the policies of the administration favor the poor, and 25 percent think that the administration favors blacks over whites — compared with 11 percent of the general public.

They are more likely than the general public, and Republicans, to say that too much has been made of the problems facing black people.

The racial strifes and resentments are still there, and I used facts rather than anecdotal evidence. There you go.

afronaut
04-24-2010, 05:02 PM
Good job. You know I've got to pop in here every once in a blue moon and give you some shit.

DroppinScience
04-24-2010, 05:07 PM
Good job. You know I've got to pop in here every once in a blue moon and give you some shit.

How's that PhD coming?

afronaut
04-27-2010, 11:29 AM
Pretty good, as a matter of fact. Slowly chipping away at my goal.