"Goatee metal rap please say goodnight"

[Uru-Nitro]

do you think that Adrock's bar in "Alive" is refered to Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit)?

[Nerd Fight]

Fred Durst was the most heinous perpetrator of metal rap at that time and was frequently seen sporting a beard like a goat, so I would say yes.

But it's OK, that whole dark age is behind us now.

[Kid Presentable]

It was a rare glimmer of the smartarse that we didn't get much during that era.

[pshabi]

do you think that Adrock's bar in "Alive" is refered to Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit)?

LDO

[MCScoobyT]

more reasons that The King dislikes The Nookie http://www.publicenemy.com/pb/viewtopic.php?p=274183&sid=bb07df6dc38dc9a366c62bffe5f7e911 From Sneak_Dogg, 4th post down, "Adrock produced one of the tracks on Crown Royal, but he requested his name be taken off the credits when they added a Fred Durst guest vocal to the song. According to the Run DMC book I read, Adrock was quite adamant that he was not down with Limp Biscuit. He also said he was disappointed with the album due to its overload of guests. To me that's part of the problem with rap nowadays, every track on an album has to have a guest on it. It waters it down. If there was a guest, it was a posse cut at the end of the album or it was a meeting of the titans, like LL Cool J on Rampage or Kane and Cube Burn Hollywood. I can't even listen to a Too $hort or LL Cool J album anymore and back in the days I used to love them. Ask yourself how many guest MCs were on Yo Bumrush the Show, Nation of Millions, Radio, Bigger and Deffer, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick, Licensed to Ill, Strictly Business?

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the new Beastie album."

[DJ Pioneer]

....."Adrock produced one of the tracks on Crown Royal, but he requested his name be taken off the credits when they added a Fred Durst guest vocal to the song.....

So, what do you think? Which track did he produce? All right, I'll pull out my liner notes:

1. It's Over - LaMarquis Jefferson and Jermaine Dupri
2. Queens Day - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, Run, Tadone Wilson, and Mike Rapley
3. Crown Royal - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and Run
4. Them Girls - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and DJ Lethal
5. The School of Old - Kid Rock
6. Take the Money and Run - Dante Ross and John Gamble
7. Rock Show - Stephan Jenkins and Jason Carmer
8. Here We Go 2001 - Jam Master Jay and DJ Homicide
9. Ahhh - Jam Master Jay and Randy Allen
10. Let's Stay Together (Together Forever) - Jermaine Dupri and LaMarquis Jefferson
11. Ay Papi - Jam Master Jay and Randy Allen
12. Simmons Incorporated - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and Run

Well, either Adrock was a "co-producer" on one of those songs or his track didn't make the final cut.

[cj hood]

Durst was on Them Girls...

[DJ Pioneer]

Durst was on Them Girls...

Oh okay, so he was saying that Adrock was one of the producers for Them Girls? Got it, thanks, I misunderstood.

Crown Royal wasn't all that bad. Overall I think it's just a fun kind of album to listen to, but DMC is really missed. It should've been labeled as Rev Run instead of Run DMC. At least JMJ was involved with some production.

[KevG]

"Crown Royal" was a pile of shit. DMC didn't do ANY vocals on it. The songs are weak. It should have been a Rev Run album.

[Savage Jimmy]

I had always thought it was about limp bizcuit.... funnily enough they were on Jay Leno the other night..... thank god i dont watch that dooshbag anymore

[DJ Pioneer]

"Crown Royal" was a pile of shit. DMC didn't do ANY vocals on it. The songs are weak. It should have been a Rev Run album.

DMC was on like 2 or 3 songs I think. He was on Ay Papi:

You might tell from the way I talk
that sucker MC's is who I stalk
Create in a rhyme that is in formation
Or why I made such a rap creation
That is bound, to be reknowned
within this city as a funky sound
And to those that try to put me down
My DJ has jams, by the pound.

On Crown Royal the song, they just repeat his voice saying "The King's a ruler, the ruler rules" and he starts saying the "Our Father" at the end.

Otherwise, they just sample his voice from time to time.

[MCScoobyT]

So, what do you think? Which track did he produce? All right, I'll pull out my liner notes:

1. It's Over - LaMarquis Jefferson and Jermaine Dupri
2. Queens Day - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, Run, Tadone Wilson, and Mike Rapley
3. Crown Royal - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and Run
4. Them Girls - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and DJ Lethal
5. The School of Old - Kid Rock
6. Take the Money and Run - Dante Ross and John Gamble
7. Rock Show - Stephan Jenkins and Jason Carmer
8. Here We Go 2001 - Jam Master Jay and DJ Homicide
9. Ahhh - Jam Master Jay and Randy Allen
10. Let's Stay Together (Together Forever) - Jermaine Dupri and LaMarquis Jefferson
11. Ay Papi - Jam Master Jay and Randy Allen
12. Simmons Incorporated - Jam Master Jay, Randy Allen, and Run

Well, either Adrock was a "co-producer" on one of those songs or his track didn't make the final cut.
The King Ad Rock produced Them Girls early in the life of this LP, DMC was in place when the beat was made. No one rhymed on it right away. Then later Run and Durst added vocals. When Ad Rock heard it he said Run DMC could keep the beat, but didn't want his name on it.

[MCScoobyT]

I remixed it here minus Durst, plus Hey Ladies http://beastiemixes.com/download.php?id=2007&chk=93uv

[pshabi]

I remixed it here minus Durst, plus Hey Ladies http://beastiemixes.com/download.php?id=2007&chk=93uv

Bro......those "Hey Ladies" lyrics are nowhere near IN TIME with that beat. How many remixes do you have to make before one of them is actually in time????:confused:

[Kid Presentable]

Beasties should sample this line and put something together for that Durst cock-flailer since Limp Bizkit is on a comeback tip. I'd only fear that they'd be too gentle, though. (n)

[Mr. Juice]

If I was a betting man, I'd say the "goatee-metal-rap" lyric was definitely directed toward Fred Durst. At the the time many rap-metal bands, including Limp Bizkit, were citing the Beastie Boys as inspiration. When MTV/MTV2 used to play music videos, "So What'cha Want?" appeared on both Limp Bizkit's and Korn's hosted music video blocks. The love from these bands probably prompted the preceding lyric from Adrock: "Created a monster with these rhymes I write."

Furthermore, BS2000's happy-go-lucky track, "The Scrappy," is actually a disguised diss track aimed at Limp Bizkit:

"You think that I don't know, what is doing down/
It's time you let your goatee go, and do the new dance in town."

Yet another diss at Durst's recognizable late-90's soul patch.

The next verse even pokes fun at Bizkit's contact-wearing guitar player, Wes Borland:

"What's a matter with your eyes? Your contacts are so scary."

And why did you guys have to bring up Crown Royal? Sadly, that was Run DMC's final studio album. How and why were the Kings of Rock talked into teaming up with flavors of the moment? They're freakin' Run DMC!! Still pains me when the album is brought up.

[cj hood]

CROWN ROYAL: poor Run DMC record....decent hiphop record. Run still brought it!!!

[Jiberish]

Bro......those "Hey Ladies" lyrics are nowhere near IN TIME with that beat. How many remixes do you have to make before one of them is actually in time????:confused:


Sometimes I think it's all a performance/comedy act he's putting together for some sort of anti-sampling platform. It may just be brilliant. But sometimes I'm an idiot.:cool:

[b i o n i c]

http://www.4shared.com/file/254404172/f2c2ea7c/My_Song_2.html

like this - thats some funny shit... tears, yo.. tears.

[MCScoobyT]

Bro......those "Hey Ladies" lyrics are nowhere near IN TIME with that beat. How many remixes do you have to make before one of them is actually in time????:confused:
I know it's out of time, I only chose 'Hey Ladies' because it's theme fit the 'Them Girl's' theme. I promise to never make a remix that you like. Please next time don't call me bro, just call me fucking idiot like you usually do, it fit's better with your 'I'm an asshole image' which is kinda your thing on this board, right?

Bro, you know your not going like my mix before you click on it, so don't.

XOXO

[pshabi]

I know it's out of time

Post a link to one that you did that is IN TIME. I'm curious. BRO.

[MCScoobyT]

Post a link to one that you did that is IN TIME. I'm curious. BRO.
Since you are my stan/groupie now, here is the latest shizz I've been working on... it called Licensed to dILLa, which is The Roots playing live Dilla joints with Beastie's rhymes mixed in. It about 3/4 of the way down my page.

By the way I coming to Vegas in June, can I come watch you sing Sublime, at an open mic night? It would make my day. I'll be there on the 4th and 5th, and I'll even clap for you!

[Kid Presentable]

Guys, please. Must we always be looking down the barrell of a gnu (http://www.sagarmatha.com/images/gnu.jpg)?

[MCScoobyT]

(y)Guys, please. Must we always be looking down the barrell of a gnu (http://www.sagarmatha.com/images/gnu.jpg)?

[Guy Incognito]

I remixed it here minus Durst, plus Hey Ladies http://beastiemixes.com/download.php?id=2007&chk=93uv



Bro, you know your not going like my mix before you click on it, so don't.



err..:confused:if you post a link surely you want people to hear it, and if you are sure people arent going to like them because they have heard previous stuff then i'd think about getting them in time.
Your appetite and enthusiasm for making mixes is pretty much unmatched on beastiemixes but i think its a case of quality not quantity. take your time over stuff. not that i am a top producer on anything, i struggle with getting things in time but when i do a remix i work on it for ages trying to sort the timings out.
I dont wanna preach or go on but its kinda disappointing to think you havent improved despite the millions of mixes you have done. I'd like to think i have improved a bit since starting and some of that improvement has been down to constructive criticsim from here. sorry for the rant but i think you could produce some good stuff if you didnt rush it, you have some good ideas that could be a lot better

[MCScoobyT]

err..:confused:if you post a link surely you want people to hear it, and if you are sure people aren't going to like them because they have heard previous stuff then i'd think about getting them in time.
Your appetite and enthusiasm for making mixes is pretty much unmatched on beastiemixes but i think its a case of quality not quantity. take your time over stuff. not that i am a top producer on anything, i struggle with getting things in time but when i do a remix i work on it for ages trying to sort the timings out.
I dont wanna preach or go on but its kinda disappointing to think you havent improved despite the millions of mixes you have done. I'd like to think i have improved a bit since starting and some of that improvement has been down to constructive criticsim from here. sorry for the rant but i think you could produce some good stuff if you didnt rush it, you have some good ideas that could be a lot better I have improved, that Run DMC mix was done over a year or more ago. If you don't think I have improved I can't help ya??? I want everyone that is interested in my mixes to hear them except for pshabi, cus he has never done anything on this board but be an asshole towards me and many others. You however, well I don't know... I guess it's strange that you think I haven't improved. Thanks for the above, I think, um if it was supposed to be constructive criticism, then I heard you say slow down, but that really doesn't help much... cheers

[pshabi]

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[Laver1969]

If I was a betting man, I'd say the "goatee-metal-rap" lyric was definitely directed toward Fred Durst. At the the time many rap-metal bands, including Limp Bizkit, were citing the Beastie Boys as inspiration. When MTV/MTV2 used to play music videos, "So What'cha Want?" appeared on both Limp Bizkit's and Korn's hosted music video blocks. The love from these bands probably prompted the preceding lyric from Adrock: "Created a monster with these rhymes I write."

Furthermore, BS2000's happy-go-lucky track, "The Scrappy," is actually a disguised diss track aimed at Limp Bizkit:

"You think that I don't know, what is doing down/
It's time you let your goatee go, and do the new dance in town."

Yet another diss at Durst's recognizable late-90's soul patch.

The next verse even pokes fun at Bizkit's contact-wearing guitar player, Wes Borland:

"What's a matter with your eyes? Your contacts are so scary."

And why did you guys have to bring up Crown Royal? Sadly, that was Run DMC's final studio album. How and why were the Kings of Rock talked into teaming up with flavors of the moment? They're freakin' Run DMC!! Still pains me when the album is brought up.

Bump...

I just heard Limp Bizkit's song Faith...and very end of the song sounds a lot like the end of BS2000's scrappy. I assume Adrock is totally goofing on them.

[pshabi]

Bump...

I just heard Limp Bizkit's song Faith...and very end of the song sounds a lot like the end of BS2000's scrappy. I assume Adrock is totally goofing on them.

Damn! I never picked up on that!

I always loved the line(s), "What's the matter with your eyes? Your contacts are so scar-y!"

[Brass Monk]

Man, Limp Biscuit was terrible. I think Durst single handedly killed the red Yankees cap.

[pshabi]

Hahaha at me being a dick in this thread 3 years ago. SMH, this board brings out the worst in me. :(

[MCScoobyT]

Ya, well reviewing my mix 3 years later, 4 1/2 after making it... It's pretty bad!
beasties#1remixer!

[beasties#1fan]

do you think that Adrock's bar in "Alive" is refered to Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit)?

Anthrax

[Micodin]

It was Fred Durst.

It started with acceptance speech at the MTV Video Music Awards when he asked bands to take responsibility for the safety of female concertgoers after the rapes and sexual assaults that went down in the crowd at Woodstock '99.

"Alive" came out in '99. From the jump everyone knew he was talking about in that one line.

Then he blasted Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit again on "The Scrappy" in 2001.

Then the "Them Girls" debacle when Run let Fred Durst and DJ Lethal get on the song for Crown Royal in 2001. Adrock told Run to take him off the production credits for the song because he didn't want to be associated with Fred Durst and DJ Lethal.

Since then it's been ancient history.

[MCScoobyT]

Can't see the Beastie's having any issues with Anthrax. While Scott rocks a huge goat, they are far from a metal rap band. And are respected in NYC circles, coming up at the as time period which the Beastie came out.


It's really just saying the type of peeps that where fans of the wack rap rock shizz that was on the radio heavy then, shouldn't think the Beastie fit or are part of the that strange little movement.

[Laver1969]

Can't see the Beastie's having any issues with Anthrax.

Anthrax covered the Beasties' Lookin' Down the Barrel.

[MCScoobyT]

Ya, I almost forgot about that and it was a good cover (http://youtu.be/XvgODQrX2nc). Plus Anthrax was down with PE and so were the Beasties. No beef there...

[beasties#1fan]

I never said the beasties had a problem with anthrax, I just mentioned them because they rap (even though they are mainly metal) I mean "I am the man" sounds alot like the beasties back in the day. IMO (i cant stress that enough)

[MCScoobyT]

Okay... then we are glad we can help you change your opinion and see Anthrax isn't the Goatee Metal Rap that The King wanted to say good night too.

[beasties#1fan]

Okay... then we are glad we can help you change your opinion and see Anthrax isn't the Goatee Metal Rap that The King wanted to say good night too.

Rock on

[Bernard Goetz]

I never said the beasties had a problem with anthrax, I just mentioned them because they rap (even though they are mainly metal) I mean "I am the man" sounds alot like the beasties back in the day. IMO (i cant stress that enough)

Ad Rock's verse in Alive is not about Anthrax, end of story. Just sayin'.

[fonky pizza]

Bump...

I just heard Limp Bizkit's song Faith...and very end of the song sounds a lot like the end of BS2000's scrappy. I assume Adrock is totally goofing on them.

My goodness, can anything sound more bad???:eek:
It's a George Michael cover!!!!!

HAHAHA Limp my biscuit(n)

[Brass Monk]

I never said the beasties had a problem with anthrax, I just mentioned them because they rap (even though they are mainly metal) I mean "I am the man" sounds alot like the beasties back in the day. IMO (i cant stress that enough)

I have respect for Anthrax to a certain point, they are a part of "The Big 4" after all. And the line in "Alive" most likely ain't about them.

That said "I am the man" was god awful (though not Limp Biscuit awful).

IMO, of course

[Randetica]

i actually like most LB tracks more than the BS 2000 stuff :/

[beasties#1fan]

I have respect for Anthrax to a certain point, they are a part of "The Big 4" after all. And the line in "Alive" most likely ain't about them.

That said "I am the man" was god awful (though not Limp Biscuit awful).

IMO, of course

Yeah I hate that song too. They sampled the beasties though, I believe

[LilTreyR]

i actually like most LB tracks more than the BS 2000 stuff :/

Not a fan of bs2000 either.

[MCScoobyT]

pink vinyl.

[Micodin]

BS2000 is my shit!

NY Is Good!

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I never said the beasties had a problem with anthrax, I just mentioned them because they rap (even though they are mainly metal) I mean "I am the man" sounds alot like the beasties back in the day. IMO (i cant stress that enough)

The bands were friends with one another back in the day. Scott Ian was on the guest list for a Beastie gig at the Roseland in '92.

[MCScoobyT]

Not a fan of bs2000 either.

types LilTreyR, while bumping Korn's dubstep LP ;)

[fonky pizza]

Actually the beginning of HSCPII with Make Some Noise is exactly like the beginning of BS2000's record.