English Premier League 2010/2011

[Freebasser]

Let's start 'er up again! (y)

[redandwhiterob]

Sunderland season ticket holder here, been going since 86 so seen plenty of ups and downs. Mainly downs though:D

Looking forward to the season starting, missing the crack that comes with going to the match. Hopefully we can sign a couple more players but hardly and players are changing hands at the moment.

We should see that change over the next 2-3 weeks

[roosta]

Right, predictions:

Last year I predicted Chelsea, and i'm gonna do the same again. Just don't see anyone beating them.

If I was gonna do an interesting one, i'd say United not to finish 2nd. Although they probably will, i'd say there is a chance they might not.

Other prediction: Everyone again will write Gunners out of the top 4, but they will be there, as always.

Jack Wilshere to shine.

Man City to collapse in a heap of shit.

[camo]

Man City to collapse in a heap of shit.

Yes please.

[checkyourprez]

chelsea
man city
arsenal
man u
liverpool
tottenham
everton

[Drederick Tatum]

I think it's a bit too early to make predictions. there's probably still some significant moves to be made.

[camo]

True.

I'm hoping we land Ozil. Bremen have dropped there asking price so come on Fergie 'sign 'im up'.

[redandwhiterob]

Hi there people, new to the forum and was just wondering if this a prediction thread or a discussion thread

[roosta]

Hi there people, new to the forum and was just wondering if this a prediction thread or a discussion thread

it's an everything thread...give it time, we will go in wonderous directions. mainly calling people cunts.

[checkyourprez]

Hi there people, new to the forum and was just wondering if this a prediction thread or a discussion thread

it's an everything thread...give it time, we will go in wonderous directions. mainly calling people cunts.



along with some Serie A mixed in.

[Guy Incognito]

Jack Wilshere to shine.



On loan to bolton probably

it's an everything thread...give it time, we will go in wonderous directions. mainly calling people cunts.

haha. I am purloining that

along with some Serie A mixed in.

you've got yer own ongoing thread for that crap:p


Predictions:

1)Man Utd. We were written off last year and came mighty close, same squad , more experience and hopefully more options up front and we can do it.
2) Chelsea - its gonna be tight though
3)Arsenal - big scrap for 3rd and 4th but the gunners have enough experience i think
4)Liverpool - I think Hodgson will unfrotunately get them rocking quite quickly.
5) City - will miss out again just cos they have too much at disposal and i dont think mancini can find his best eleven until second half of season and it'll be too late
6)Birmingham - shock predict, i think they will build on last season and improve on second half season form
7) Spurs - I think they'll struggle if they qualify for CL group stages but will rally late and always good bet for a cup.
8) Everton - always steady
9) Villa - might struggle this season
10) Blackburn - mid table as usual

Newcastle
Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers to be relegated ( thats just wishful thinking really)

[roosta]

On loan to bolton probably



nah, he's getting a run out in the first team this season by all reports.

looking forward to seeing him.

[roosta]

in other news, i hate footballers.

In the Irish league, my team's best player this season 'retired' last week due to 'personal reasons'.

Tonight he has signed for one of our bitter rivals.

They're all scum.

[rirv]

Woy Hodgson and Kenny Huang dream team set to dominate. :cool:

[Guy Incognito]

nah, he's getting a run out in the first team this season by all reports.

looking forward to seeing him.

i work with quite a few bolton fans and they are desparate for him to go back there. Best bolton player last season by all accounts. All depends on fabregas doesnt it?

[roosta]

i work with quite a few bolton fans and they are desparate for him to go back there. Best bolton player last season by all accounts. All depends on fabregas doesnt it?

Not really, as far as I know, Wenger has definite plans for him this season, regardless.

[Guy Incognito]

^ I would take that as Fabregas is definitely going. 31st august. £30.3 million.

[redandwhiterob]

On loan to bolton probably



haha. I am purloining that



you've got yer own ongoing thread for that crap:p


Predictions:

1)Man Utd. We were written off last year and came mighty close, same squad , more experience and hopefully more options up front and we can do it.
2) Chelsea - its gonna be tight though
3)Arsenal - big scrap for 3rd and 4th but the gunners have enough experience i think
4)Liverpool - I think Hodgson will unfrotunately get them rocking quite quickly.
5) City - will miss out again just cos they have too much at disposal and i dont think mancini can find his best eleven until second half of season and it'll be too late
6)Birmingham - shock predict, i think they will build on last season and improve on second half season form
7) Spurs - I think they'll struggle if they qualify for CL group stages but will rally late and always good bet for a cup.
8) Everton - always steady
9) Villa - might struggle this season
10) Blackburn - mid table as usual

Newcastle
Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers to be relegated ( thats just wishful thinking really)

Kneels on floor and prays this happens

[Guy Incognito]

Kneels on floor and prays this happens

really, thought you'd be happy at two derbies this season?

[roosta]

^ I would take that as Fabregas is definitely going. 31st august. £30.3 million.

at that price? not a chance sir.

I'm not going to engage in any cesc talk. Its dull as ditchwater.
We'll see what team lines out in September.

[redandwhiterob]

really, thought you'd be happy at two derbies this season?

I am and looking forward to them, but I want them to go what we went through over the past 20 years or so.

One relegation and the poor souls thought it was the end of the world.

Hasn't really been a good time to be a Sunderland fan over the past 20 years, first we had the Keegan era(the first one that is) when we were mainly rubbish, then we had to endure getting laughed out of the PL with what was then a record 19 points, them we even managed to beat that with 15 points 2 years later.

Its fair to say Newcastle fans rubbed our noses in it big style over them 2 seasons

I want them to really suffer like we have

[Planetary]

6)Birmingham - shock predict, i think they will build on last season and improve on second half season form

Please tell me you're on glue or something. Birmingham are a bag of wank

As for Wolves, i dunno this year. I can't afford a season ticket for the first time in years which is poo. I think we've made some smart signings and we'll stay up. As for where, 15th or above seems a reasonable target.

I'll give my top 7 at the end of the month...

[redandwhiterob]

Blackpool could be a canny bet to beat Derby's points record this time round.

They fans, players and manager will soon find out its hard to 'enjoy' it when you are getting stuffed each week

[Guy Incognito]

Please tell me you're on glue or something. Birmingham are a bag of wank

As for Wolves, i dunno this year. I can't afford a season ticket for the first time in years which is poo. I think we've made some smart signings and we'll stay up. As for where, 15th or above seems a reasonable target.

I'll give my top 7 at the end of the month...

well i made my top ten with plenty of talking points i thought. And i knew you'd react to that understandably but look at the facts. Solid last season, hardly out of top 10, fair mean at the back, bought some attacking players, minted owner, clear plans laid out, a club on the up, there is no denying it. It might fall flat on its arse but it might get better for them.

As for you lot, who knows, did really well to stay up but are you gonna do a stoke or a hull. oh wait, you bought steven hunt. :p there's about 11 teams that could go down and i think you should be ok

[Guy Incognito]

Blackpool could be a canny bet to beat Derby's points record this time round.

They fans, players and manager will soon find out its hard to 'enjoy' it when you are getting stuffed each week

Despite it an obvious shout, i am not writing them off totally, they could spring a surprise, its been done many times before. look at stoke ffs

[Planetary]

well i made my top ten with plenty of talking points i thought. And i knew you'd react to that understandably but look at the facts. Solid last season, hardly out of top 10, fair mean at the back, bought some attacking players, minted owner, clear plans laid out, a club on the up, there is no denying it. It might fall flat on its arse but it might get better for them.

As for you lot, who knows, did really well to stay up but are you gonna do a stoke or a hull. oh wait, you bought steven hunt. :p there's about 11 teams that could go down and i think you should be ok

Unless they make some very astute signings i can't see past mid-table mediocrity for birmingham. Their defence is ok but that team is made up of mercenaries, don't seem like much of a unit. the same can be said for the top clubs but strong character and unity is an important part of a side like birmingham or ourselves. Also, they sort of scraped their way through a lot of games last year- Really not impresive at all (from b'ham fans not me!) Also, a club on the up? i don't know... Have you seen st andrews? absolute shit tip. almost as bad as fratton park.

ps i hate birmingham.

i think we'll do ok this year. where did stoke finish? 12th? i'd be made up with that... as long as we don't start playing like them. can't see us doing a hull either, we don't have the crippling debt or managerial instability.

as for man utd, i dunno. too early to say, ozil would be a good signing though i think.

[Planetary]

So glad we beat Stoke, they're so shit and deserve it. Did anyone catch David Jones' freekick on MOTD?

Next humiliation: Birmingham. How wank were they yesterday? They managed to drag themselves to a dodgy 2-2 draw. Their luck must run out soon.

Also, Blackpool!

Also, Baggies (LOL!)

[roosta]

fuckin' Chelsea.

[Guy Incognito]

fuckin' Chelsea.

ominous, very ominous. Hopefully they will get complacent but i cant see it

[Drederick Tatum]

great first day of the league.

teams just seem to bring goals as gifts when they visit Stamford Bridge. WBA did all they could to make sure Chelsea felt at home.

nice win for Blackpool, but Wigan were abject. Maynor Figueroa looked like he didn't want to be on the pitch. poor effort.

Arsenal v Liverpool today.....2-1 Arsenal...hopefully.

[rirv]

Carlo Ancellotti must be some manager - he's barely added to the Chelsea squad, in fact it's got weaker/thinner in the year or so he's been there, he's just taken the players he's got and made them better. The players seem to really enjoy playing for each other and I have to admit Drogba is turning into one of my favourite players. I used to hate him, especially since the CL semi and his "fucking disgrace" rant to the camera. Apparently his son told him that he looked like an idiot on television and he made the change. Also reading about all the stuff he does in Africa makes him seem like a top guy off the field. Awesome player too.

I think what we learnt yesterday - Chelsea will take some beating for the title and Blackpool might finish 19th. Wigan played some of the worst football I've ever seen in the top flight.

[synch]

So glad we beat Stoke, they're so shit and deserve it. Did anyone catch David Jones' freekick on MOTD?I laughed, I enjoyed it so much I actually laughed, out loud.

Great stuff.

As for Chelsea... 21 goals scored, 0 conceded in the past three Premiership games.

Yay!

I love how they kept the team pretty much the same. Manchester City might have bought a shedload of class players but they are turning into what Real Madrid was a couple of years ago.

If Mancini manages to get the team to actually play then everyone is in a world of hurt. They'll probably be harder and harder to beat the further the competition progresses.

[Drederick Tatum]

haha Reina. poor guy.

classic commentary as Koscielney is sent off, "it's not a ball to hand job".

[roosta]

I'll take a point away at Anfield any time, but Arsenal should have done better.

Tale of a poor referee and keeper mishaps.

Good goal by Ngog, but Almunia could have done better.

Arshavin doesn't appear to have decided to show up this season. again.

[Drederick Tatum]

the in-game situations in which Arshavin excels are just too few. he can be dangerous but only in a couple of scenarios. he's got guile and flair, but lacks the athleticism and presence to contribute consistently.

Gerrard was lucky to still be on the pitch at the end...when I say lucky I mean he was at Anfield.

[checkyourprez]

bobby zamora was bullying the fuck out of man u all day.


zamora>rooney.

[roosta]

Wenger claimed no more signings...if that's the case then we may as well concede the league now. We need a new keeper. Other than that, we will be a force this season. Second half today we were brilliant.

But, when Blackburn fired those bombs in, we were vulnerable. Although, Almunia actually played well.

That said, apparently he threw his shirt and arm-band into the crowd and waved goodbye. Maybe he knows Schwarzer is on the way?

[Guy Incognito]

apparently city are getting begovic from stoke which means Given can go to fulham and then you lot get schwarzer, its going to be a busy couple of days methinks.

[Guy Incognito]

i'm wondering how mental its going to be tomorrow, i cant see anything mental happening. spurs and city will have a word but they both have previous on deadline day.

[roosta]

Hahahahaha

Harry Redknapp has a wig-out on Sky TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk)

[Guy Incognito]

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[checkyourprez]

Hahahahaha

Harry Redknapp has a wig-out on Sky TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk)


harrys the man.

[Freebasser]

Dropping two points like we did today is gut-wrenching; especially two weeks in a row, and especially when Chelsea are humping teams 6-0 left, right and centre.

(n):((n)

[Guy Incognito]

Dropping two points like we did today is gut-wrenching; especially two weeks in a row, and especially when Chelsea are humping teams 6-0 left, right and centre.

(n):((n)

chelsea havent played anyone yet, we've had two tough away games and yes we should have won both but we didnt get anything at craven cottage or goodison last season, so'ill take 2 draws. Its all going to depend on the arsenal and chelsea games. If we do better than last season we have a good chance

[Planetary]

we just lost in the last minute to fulham :(

[Guy Incognito]

^ you would have taken the start you have had though. I think you'll be fine if you carry the start on.

Chelsea have started great but i am hoping complacency and underestimating opposition start setting in, i think when they do have a bad result they will wobble a fair bit.

[Guy Incognito]

from bbc football gossip:

Manchester United striker Michael Owen has stoked up the rivalry with Liverpool ahead of the Old Trafford showdown on Sunday. When asked which Premier League fixture most excites him, the former fans' favourite at Anfield said: "Probably the Manchester derby."

[Freebasser]

Excellent result today. Berba is finally letting his quality show through (y)

For a horrible 10 minutes I thought we were going to turn into the new Premier League Draw Specialists TM, but Berba capped a fantastic performance with his hattrick.

I never like being swamped by the day trippers and corporate hospitality folk though - you can never get any decent chants going. To the Gok Wan lookalike in the tartan suit 3 seats down from me - you can make the 'wanker' gesture at the scouse all you like, but you're still the cunt wearing the tartan suit (http://www.tweed-jacket.com/img/HOME%20PAGE%20PHOTOS/HUNTING-MACLEOD-1.jpg) with your armani cufflinks flapping around in the breeze. I know who looks like the biggest wanker (y)

[checkyourprez]

berba always been quality. did wayne even play today i didnt see the game?


but i think everyone in the prem league is playing for second.


chelsea is just manhandeling teams. its like training ground matches. they are pace for like 130 goals this season.

[Guy Incognito]

SO proud of Berbatov, all last year i defended him as much as i could and i am so glad he is finally proving how good he is. its not just the way he is scoring goals but the fact he is winning games with those goals. So often before he has scored goals when we were already winning and missing other match winning chances but he's looking a lot more confident. if only wayne was. if we could get them both scoring at same time it wouldnt matter that we keep letting daft goals in.
scousers werent in it all today and we still made it difficult.
But i firmly believe that we have it in us to score more goals than whoever we play. Including chelsea.

Chelsea havent played anyone of note yet. Lets see how they get on against man city next week

[Drederick Tatum]

poor result against Albion, despite missing our four best players we still should've had enough to see off West Brom at home. Arsenal starting eleven did not include one player that I'd consider to have leadership qualities.

and we won't win anything with Almunia in goal...and then by the time we do get rid of him it'll be too late as Cesc will be gone too.

thankfully with most other rivals slipping up too it's merely a missed opportunity.

[checkyourprez]

poor result against Albion, despite missing our four best players we still should've had enough to see off West Brom at home. Arsenal starting eleven did not include one player that I'd consider to have leadership qualities.

and we won't win anything with Almunia in goal...and then by the time we do get rid of him it'll be too late as Cesc will be gone too.

thankfully with most other rivals slipping up too it's merely a missed opportunity.

arshavin played. maybe you were missing 2-5.

[Drederick Tatum]

is that a joke? four best players are Fabregas, RVP, Vermaelen, Walcott.

[checkyourprez]

is that a joke? four best players are Fabregas, RVP, Vermaelen, Walcott.



oo yess i forgot about the glass man. so possibly 1.b, 3, 4, 5 didnt play. fabs overrated, cant even start on his national team, or the team he wants to play for. vermaelen good but still, walcott not there yet.

[Drederick Tatum]

so for the record, you think Arshavin is better than Fabregas.

why this insistence on destroying what little credibility you have left in this thread?

[Guy Incognito]

so for the record, you think Arshavin is better than Fabregas.

why this insistence on destroying what little credibility you have left in this thread?

he knows arshavin is inconsistent, he's on the wind up. did it with me last year when ronaldo joined real and he came up with absurd statement after absurd statement. Then when i finally lost me rag he actually made a very good detailed post about the whole thing which is what he should have done in the first place.

ps i was right about chelsea

[Freebasser]

Saw United reserves tonight.

We played well the first half, but we were lucky to draw 2-2 after our shocker of a second half. We were playing Obertan up front by himself though, so we were lucky to fashion 2 goals.

Some good players there for the future though - namely Eikrem and Brady.

[checkyourprez]

he knows arshavin is inconsistent, he's on the wind up. did it with me last year when ronaldo joined real and he came up with absurd statement after absurd statement. Then when i finally lost me rag he actually made a very good detailed post about the whole thing which is what he should have done in the first place.

ps i was right about chelsea


im not totally ready to agree with you. man city is a team full of quality players, but they are not at a championship level just yet. they have the ability to beat anyone, as they proved this year. i still think chelsea has the most quality in the league and will probably lose at most 2 or 3 more times.

[Guy Incognito]

my gripe wasnt really who is gonna win the title, it was just the way everybody seemed to be right up chelsea's arse. saying shit like "unstoppable" , and "machine" etc and it was so plainly obvious that had played nobody of real merit. All strugglers this season. Even tho chelsea might win, its going to be a fuck of a lot closer than most people thought. there was some fucking mental results at the weekend.

[roosta]

The week arsenal post seriously impressive financial figures our lack of spending on a keeper was front and centre. So frustrating.

But it wasn't just almunias fault. Most of them let us down.

Why was wilshere rested? He's playing great and his 18 get him out there.

That team need to take a serious look at themselves. They can win the legume but only if they get their attitude right.

[Freebasser]

They can win the legume but only if they get their attitude right.

Damn right! (http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/351/legumewinners0910.jpg)(y)

[checkyourprez]

chelsea still big boys. arsenal still little boys.

[roosta]

Damn right! (http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/351/legumewinners0910.jpg)(y)

hahahaha...stupid iPad typing.

So frustrating today, I felt we played well, but didn't have that final product.

I hate Chelsea so much.

[checkyourprez]

alex really has a cannon tho. song kinda leaned back out of the way of it, i wonder if he stood straight up if he coulda got a piece of it.


i also wonder how long someone would be knocked out for if alex hit them in the face with one of his howitzers while standing in the wall.

[Guy Incognito]

alex really has a cannon tho. song kinda leaned back out of the way of it, i wonder if he stood straight up if he coulda got a piece of it.


i also wonder how long someone would be knocked out for if alex hit them in the face with one of his howitzers while standing in the wall.

there were a few free kicks this weekend where an attacking player ducked out of the wall to leave a gap but i still think alex's would have gone in any way, songs head would have been in the net as well he hit it that hard.

[Guy Incognito]

Fucking typical, it all goes off at united and the board was down. I still dont know what to think about the rooney saga but i was made up when he re-signed but i still have doubts and questions. I wasnt behind the wayne is a whore message , i thought that was a bit daft. I think his agent is a cunt though.

Anyone care enough to still talk about it?


Did anybody see Hernandez's header against stoke. top class.

[Lex Diamonds]

Deserves a thread of it's own, for me.

[Lex Diamonds]

Erm why has this thread dropped to the 2nd page?

Fuckin' fairweather fans!

Have to say the derby was a massive letdown, especially as I stayed up til 4am local time to watch it when I had work the next day. Really want to know what Rafael and Tevez said to each other. Good to see a bit of passion in the lad. (y)

[Guy Incognito]

Erm why has this thread dropped to the 2nd page?

Fuckin' fairweather fans!

Have to say the derby was a massive letdown, especially as I stayed up til 4am local time to watch it when I had work the next day. Really want to know what Rafael and Tevez said to each other. Good to see a bit of passion in the lad. (y)

game was awful but city fans should more upset than us. You dont win league by counter attacking at home. piss poor. Michael carrick in excellent game shocker

[Drederick Tatum]

Yaya Toure looked pretty average out there. head down charge forward. it'll come off once or twice a season against the weaker teams, but as midfield creativity it leaves a lot to be desired. and he was absolutely knackered by the end.

Johnson should've started instead of one of the three DMs Mancini chose.

[Drederick Tatum]

sell him buy experience. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/12/nicklas-bendtner-arsenal)

[Lex Diamonds]

Loving Chelsea-Sunderland. Onuoha's goal was absolutely amazing, especially for a defender. Maybe they'll start playing him up front. (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

3-0! Hahahahaha... Champions, you've having a laugh!

[checkyourprez]

man u needs to win a game before they can talk. drawing every game you play is no way to win the league.

[Drederick Tatum]

I stopped watching Sunderland-Chelsea after about 30 mins. thought it was dead boring. pity.

I suppose 3-0 is what happens when you play Paulo Ferreira in central defence.

[roosta]

sell him buy experience. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/12/nicklas-bendtner-arsenal)

Yup. he has a rotten attitude. If that's how he feels, sell him and invest in other parts of the team. Attacking wise we have options.

Great weekend for the Arse. I still think Chelsea will win it, but I know think Arsenal might actually have a role to play this year.

[Guy Incognito]

man u needs to win a game before they can talk. drawing every game you play is no way to win the league.

unbeaten, three points off leaders. we are grinding out results. 2 nil down with 9 minutes to go and we get a point. Chelsea go 2-0 down and cant get it back, at home. long way to go yet bruv

[checkyourprez]

suck it fifimen of arsenal. forza harry redknapp and co.


bales the best winger in football atm. hope he comes to milan!

[rirv]

Boss Harry Redknapp
Strolls onto the football pitch
Leprous messiah.

[roosta]

I hate football.

Arsenal are idiots. Amazingly skilled idiots.

[Guy Incognito]

I hate football.

Arsenal are idiots. Amazingly skilled idiots.

cesc fabregas is an idiot. very silly thing to do, it seemed very arrogant of him to think he could get away with that at home. Technically you battered them but three mistakes cost you. Spurs are now a good enough side to punish most teams mistakes.

[Drederick Tatum]

Bale best winger in football? well, both Messi and Ronaldo scored hat-tricks on the weekend.

[checkyourprez]

Bale best winger in football? well, both Messi and Ronaldo scored hat-tricks on the weekend.

ehh yeaaa but those two are forward wingers, bales flying out of the back or mid.

[Planetary]

what the fuck would he ruin his career at milan for? haha

[checkyourprez]

what the fuck would he ruin his career at milan for? haha

boy please. its called going to a club with prestige and history. one of the greatest clubs in world football. in the top two of that department.

[Guy Incognito]

Bale best winger in football? well, both Messi and Ronaldo scored hat-tricks on the weekend.

i think bale is more of a traditional winger than either of those two. Sure ronaldo started as a winger but it became obvious he could do the strikers job. Not sure bale will make that step, dont think he needs to, he's the most effective british player at crosses i have seen since beckham.

what the fuck would he ruin his career at milan for? haha

seconded, if he's going to go for money and prestige then i'm afraid italy isnt necessarily the best place to go. Its spain or a bigger EPL club (eurrgh, i just said EPL). Plus, i really dont think he's going to go anywhere as long as harry redknapp is still spurs manager.

[Planetary]

boy please. its called going to a club with prestige and history. one of the greatest clubs in world football. in the top two of that department.

so were wolves at one time. It's all about current status, joining a team that's winning things as well as boasting a proud and successful past.

He's better off at spurs than milan

[camo]

Harry gave Bale some time off the other week to go on holiday somewhere. Bale went and spent the week at his mums in Wales...so does this sound like a guy who's wanting to move to Italy?

He's better off at Spurs. I can't think of a better place for a transitional player than a transitional club like Spurs.

[Freebasser]

I know it's not the Premiership, or even actually football, but I've been playing the new football manager (for once it's not a buggy piece of shit) and last time I started a thread about football manager it got about 3 posts in it, so I'm going to talk about it in this here thread.

Anyway, I decided to choose a team from the Blue Square North for a bit of a challenge. I picked Stafford completely at random, and little did I know they are the most financially fucked team in the history of the fucking world.

One game in, and I was put into receivership, docked 10 points, and had a transfer embargo placed upon me. Fortunately, I seem to have a spirited bunch of players, and they quickly reduced -10 points to 4 points after 10 games. Within another 4 games I was out of the relegation zone, and not long after I was sitting in 15th (my media prediciton) but actually performing at a pace that would normally have seen me cosying up with other playoff candidates.

And then... the dreaded FM slump. Six fucking games lost on the bounce. I started conceding goals in the dying seconds of matches (always from misplaced crosses - "He didn't mean that!") and now I'm rock bottom, five points from safety, and my players are scared to leave the changing room because they can't even pass the ball to each other properly. The transfer embargo has been lifted, but I can't afford to sign anybody, and even if I could, no fucker wants to play for me. I hate this game.

But I fucking love it too.

Now I know what it's like to be Roy Hodgson (y)(n)

[Planetary]

You picked well aid. you picked well...

i've always been tempted to have a go with stafford. maybe when i get fired from the wolves job...

How's the season panning out?

ps i call you 'aid' now

[Guy Incognito]

top of the league

(y)

[Freebasser]

top of the league

(y)

Gutted that Berbatov didn't get his 6th. Ah well; shows it's a good weekend when that's all I have to bitch about! (y)


How's the season panning out?

I just lost 11 on the trot and we're 7 points from safety. I think the AI has figured me out :/

[Lex Diamonds]

A brilliant weekend for football, both for the spectators and the sport itself. Undisputable proof that money and muscle will never truly compete with heritage, loyalty and intelligence. Glory Glory.

In other news, BBC Sport has reported "Manchester United draw Liverpool in FA Cup" as if that is worthy of its own story. It would have been more of a challenge were we to face Scunthorpe. Will be satisfying to put the Scousers out of the one competition they're still in, mind.

[Freebasser]

Careful now! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0nyOyrprIs)

In other news... I found it slightly amusing that the monobrowed one and that 'Vince-from-mighty-boosh' lookalike from Kasabian both pulled out their own teams to face each other in the draw. Odd thing, chance.

[Guy Incognito]

definitely, although i'd be more worried if it was at anfield but we didnt play that well in the league fixture. Gave them two chances and they scored them so i'm not assuming we are through. We went out against leeds at home last year for starters. I think the mickeys will be up for it as its their last chance for a domestic trophy but fergie will want to win this one big time. Hope its a good un.

[Drederick Tatum]

quick mention of El Clasico. Barca just scored their third. in the build-up Real looked like they didn't even want to be on the pitch. Barca just strolled up the field. no pressure on the ball.

....Villa with a fourth! Messi rampant.

[Lex Diamonds]

definitely, although i'd be more worried if it was at anfield but we didnt play that well in the league fixture. Gave them two chances and they scored them so i'm not assuming we are through. We went out against leeds at home last year for starters. I think the mickeys will be up for it as its their last chance for a domestic trophy but fergie will want to win this one big time. Hope its a good un.
It's ours no question. Liverpool aint fuckin' with our best team, and Rooney and Nani are both back creating chances while Berba and Javi are looking like fucking assassins. With Carragher AND Agger out of the picture they don't stand a chance!

[Drederick Tatum]

Vidic is Torres' bitch.

[Guy Incognito]

With Carragher AND Agger out of the picture they don't stand a chance!

this i had forgotten about. we should beat them, i just know what the FA cup is like, it just worried me a touch that you were too over confident but yes we should win.

Vidic is Torres' bitch.

not this season bruv.

Vidic has been better with the armband and torres looks like he doesnt give a shit and is thinking about where he can go in january.

[Lex Diamonds]

Vidic is Torres' bitch.
LOL

Vidic will fuck him up any day of the week. Best centre back in England by a long way.

[Drederick Tatum]

he's a Serbian war criminal. fact.

[Lex Diamonds]

EXACTLY. Against a Spanish ballerina, who you backing?

[checkyourprez]

"Mario is a great footballer and he has shown he is intelligent, it would be nice for us to play together again," Ibrahimovic told Chi magazine


super mario to milan!!!! would love it. hes a milan fan, he will be there soon imo. prob at a cut rate price too. best wheelers and dealers in football.

[Freebasser]

^ You have your own thread (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=95190) for that Italian nonsense.

[Drederick Tatum]

to be honest, I'd love for Balotelli to go to Milan. pairing with Zlatan on and off the pitch. imagine the drama and controversy and sheer entertainment those two together would bring. two nutters at a team owned by a criminal. there would be daily scandal. needs to happen.

[checkyourprez]

^ You have your own thread (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=95190) for that Italian nonsense.


mario plays in england dummy. hence writing it in the epl 2010/2011 related thread .

[Freebasser]

Fuck me - 4-0. Well played ye Hammers.

It's ours no question... they don't stand a chance!


And THAT is why we never presume our team will waltz through any match, kids. Awful.

[Guy Incognito]

Fuck me - 4-0. Well played ye Hammers.




And THAT is why we never presume our team will waltz through any match, kids. Awful.

indeed, i said to a mate yesterday that i thought when we do lose it was going to be a heavy one, b team or not.

[Freebasser]

The snow was pretty though (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

This is good for us... let them have their moment, get the loss out the way so we can take a kick up the arse and concentrate on the treble.

It's just karma at work, trust me.

[roosta]

to be honest, I'd love for Balotelli to go to Milan. pairing with Zlatan on and off the pitch. imagine the drama and controversy and sheer entertainment those two together would bring. two nutters at a team owned by a criminal. there would be daily scandal. needs to happen.

hahaha.....well said.

[Drederick Tatum]

Balotelli in Boateng bustup! (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/03/manchester-city-mario-balotelli-jerome-boateng)

[camo]

^ You just can't house that many egos under one roof. Mario Balotelli's notoriety increases...

[Drederick Tatum]

top of the league

(y)

[Guy Incognito]

top of the league

(y)

tbh i was going to chip in and say only because we were postponed but thinking about it, i think we dodged a bullet cos if they had managed to get that pitch "playable" it could have been a leveller and anything could have happened. December is a massive month for us, huge games.


Can you believe Newcastle have sacked Chris Hughton, they must have some bugger already lined up? O Neill?

[Planetary]

tbh i was going to chip in and say only because we were postponed but thinking about it, i think we dodged a bullet cos if they had managed to get that pitch "playable" it could have been a leveller and anything could have happened. December is a massive month for us, huge games.


Can you believe Newcastle have sacked Chris Hughton, they must have some bugger already lined up? O Neill?

newcastle sack chris hughton, yet we're still stuck with mick mccarthy.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Guy Incognito]

newcastle sack chris hughton, yet we're still stuck with mick mccarthy.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

you arent going to get anyone better whilst you are in bottom three so you might as well stick with someone with experience in that shit, he kept you up last season. It would be a mistake to do anything rash now.
Newcastle must have someone lined up, its the only explanation, they have never really committed to him and have just waited till the results have dried up. I think he has reached his limit but its still a surprise, he has support of players and has exceeded expectations

[Planetary]

i dunno i think we could get someone better. honestly mick is tactically inept and has too many favourites. you don't know!

[Freebasser]

Blasphemy!

[Guy Incognito]

well its mental but he looks like he's up for it and isnt scared but not even sure its a move sideways. If he doesnt do well early on, he's fucked. And so is Mike Ashley.

Oh, i'm talking about newcastle

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9273388.stm

[roosta]

Newcastle are mental. Best of luck to them.

Also, Patrice Evra is a gobby cunt.

[ToucanSpam]

This won't last. We'll finish 3rd. I love my team but in the end I don't think we will stay atop the league.

[checkyourprez]

This won't last. We'll finish 3rd. I love my team but in the end I don't think we will stay atop the league.

for true.

your squad is a mighty quality training center tho. :)

[Guy Incognito]

Newcastle are mental. Best of luck to them.

Also, Patrice Evra is a gobby cunt.

This won't last. We'll finish 3rd. I love my team but in the end I don't think we will stay atop the league.

i'm not making any predictions until after december.

there is a school of thought that you never slag off the opposition before a game. its easy motivation but at the same time its a bit of pressure on arsenal to prove him wrong but i cant see fergie approving.

[Planetary]

It's gonna be sweet for wenger if they beat you tomorrow. honestly, i just want it to be as good a game as it ought to be.

[Guy Incognito]

It's gonna be sweet for wenger if they beat you tomorrow. honestly, i just want it to be as good a game as it ought to be.

if they beat us tomorrow i will be well impressed as its on monday night luv.

[Planetary]

if they beat us tomorrow i will be well impressed as its on monday night luv.

monday night football.... wank

[Guy Incognito]

its nice to watch a big game in the evening. Its utd v arsenal doesnt matter what day it is, its a massive game

[Planetary]

soon there'll be a game every day of the week

[Planetary]

YES! fuck birmingham.

so nice to beat them, especially with 11 first team players injured.

first clean sheet of the season too so hopefully we can kick on now :)

[Guy Incognito]

hey. 1-0.

We werent brilliant but arsenal were shit.

I have been of opinion for quite a while that clichy isnt good enough. There i said it.
he was unlucky with the pen tho, bit harsh that.

top of the league(y)

[Drederick Tatum]

yeah, Arsenal didn't create very much. credit to Man Utd though I suppose. really shut the game down.

we're still basically missing 3 of our top 4 players so I'm somewhat content that we made it at least competitive.

Clichy hasn't been up to his previously high standards. for a while there I thought he was the top left back in the league, now though it seems like another problem position for Arsenal. Arshavin was awful again last night. passing and shooting were poor and he lost possession countless times. He might be more effective as an impact player, coming on late when the opposition is tiring because this season he's been average at best in the starting eleven.

[Guy Incognito]

yeah, Arsenal didn't create very much. credit to Man Utd though I suppose. really shut the game down.

we're still basically missing 3 of our top 4 players so I'm somewhat content that we made it at least competitive.

Clichy hasn't been up to his previously high standards. for a while there I thought he was the top left back in the league, now though it seems like another problem position for Arsenal. Arshavin was awful again last night. passing and shooting were poor and he lost possession countless times. He might be more effective as an impact player, coming on late when the opposition is tiring because this season he's been average at best in the starting eleven.

the problem with a player like arshavin is just when everyone has had enough of him and written him off, he'll turn up in a big game and do something spectacular. I thought that was going to be last night. Its such a shame cos he has bags of ability but he just looks like he cant be arsed at all.

[checkyourprez]

yeah, Arsenal didn't create very much. credit to Man Utd though I suppose. really shut the game down.

we're still basically missing 3 of our top 4 players so I'm somewhat content that we made it at least competitive.

Clichy hasn't been up to his previously high standards. for a while there I thought he was the top left back in the league, now though it seems like another problem position for Arsenal. Arshavin was awful again last night. passing and shooting were poor and he lost possession countless times. He might be more effective as an impact player, coming on late when the opposition is tiring because this season he's been average at best in the starting eleven.

i think he just needs to go to a quality team. he just wanted to leave russia and that is why he agreed to go to arsenal but i dont think he ever wanted to be at arsenal. they are not a big enough club for him and they dont win anything.

[Guy Incognito]

i think he just needs to go to a quality team. he just wanted to leave russia and that is why he agreed to go to arsenal but i dont think he ever wanted to be at arsenal. they are not a big enough club for him and they dont win anything.

but he has to prove himself at arsenal before a bigger team (not that many about, a few but not loads more) will take the risk. IF he aint doing it at arsenal regularly then someone like mourinho or whoever wont want to gamble. If he's moody and not putting it in because he thinks he's better than that then thats not going to go down well with the top top managers. IF Arsenal win something and he is instrumental in that then he might have a chance of a bigger move. Plus Not many teams have got the same CL pedigree as arsenal of late. there or therabouts last few seasons. Its not like he is stuck in the wilderness

PS he's too young to go to AC:p

[Drederick Tatum]

i think he just needs to go to a quality team. he just wanted to leave russia and that is why he agreed to go to arsenal but i dont think he ever wanted to be at arsenal. they are not a big enough club for him and they dont win anything.

feeble as always. let the adults talk.

To say Arsenal aren't a big enough club is absurd. they're second in the Premier League, which isn't some washed-up competition where players threaten to go on strike because conditions are so poor.

guy, I think Arshavin needs to spend less time trying to be a playmaker and focus on the one thing he does excel at which is finishing. against Man Utd Chamakh was isolated for most of the game and when Arsenal did get the ball into forward positions he was alone in the box. Arshavin should've been trying to present a threat alongside him. Instead he's out at the top of the penalty area, getting knocked off the ball by Carrick and Fletcher.

[Guy Incognito]

feeble as always. let the adults talk.

To say Arsenal aren't a big enough club is absurd. they're second in the Premier League, which isn't some washed-up competition where players threaten to go on strike because conditions are so poor.

guy, I think Arshavin needs to spend less time trying to be a playmaker and focus on the one thing he does excel at which is finishing. against Man Utd Chamakh was isolated for most of the game and when Arsenal did get the ball into forward positions he was alone in the box. Arshavin should've been trying to present a threat alongside him. Instead he's out at the top of the penalty area, getting knocked off the ball by Carrick and Fletcher.

but we played 5 in the middle so it was hard for anyone to support him. fergie got tactics bang on.

he pulls all the strings for Russia so he should be able to do it fir you lot. i think its more that he isnt number one. never will be at the arse and i think if he was number one somewhere he would be more confident but i can only see that happening at a smaller club

[checkyourprez]

feeble as always. let the adults talk.

To say Arsenal aren't a big enough club is absurd. they're second in the Premier League, which isn't some washed-up competition where players threaten to go on strike because conditions are so poor.

guy, I think Arshavin needs to spend less time trying to be a playmaker and focus on the one thing he does excel at which is finishing. against Man Utd Chamakh was isolated for most of the game and when Arsenal did get the ball into forward positions he was alone in the box. Arshavin should've been trying to present a threat alongside him. Instead he's out at the top of the penalty area, getting knocked off the ball by Carrick and Fletcher.

boy please. hes just got bigger ambitions than what a training academy can give him. non existent on the european stage and the occasion english league cup just aint cuttin it.


possibly in a few years arshavin can head to milan and win CL title or two.

[Planetary]

boy please. hes just got bigger ambitions than what a training academy can give him. non existent on the european stage and the occasion english league cup just aint cuttin it.


possibly in a few years arshavin can head to milan and win CL title or two.

I wish you'd get over milan. They aren't as good as they used to be, you should accept it. It's not a place that the world's best players are currently massively interested in. and even if they were i'd say it would be largely down to the fact that they get to live in milan.

[Guy Incognito]

I wish you'd get over milan. They aren't as good as they used to be, you should accept it. It's not a place that the world's best players are currently massively interested in. and even if they were i'd say it would be largely down to the fact that they get to live in milan.

hahaha(y)

its true man, i wouldnt say that on current form there isnt much to choose between milan and arsenal

[checkyourprez]

hahaha(y)

its true man, i wouldnt say that on current form there isnt much to choose between milan and arsenal

not every team can be the best team in the world year in and year out. look at real madrid a couple years ago, barca in the early 2000s, liverpool now.

milan is still a good team tho, and they have some very entertaining players.

[Guy Incognito]

not every team can be the best team in the world year in and year out. look at real madrid a couple years ago, barca in the early 2000s, liverpool now.

milan is still a good team tho, and they have some very entertaining players.

now you are going round in circles saying that arsenal arent as big as ac and yet now you are saying that its cyclical. make your mind up

you need to be less milancentric luv. I have managed plenty of posts talking about other clubs than the one i support. Whilst its commendable you love your team they shouldnt enter EVERY FUCKING CONVERSATION ANYBODY HAS IN THIS THREAD.

[checkyourprez]

now you are going round in circles saying that arsenal arent as big as ac and yet now you are saying that its cyclical. make your mind up

you need to be less milancentric luv. I have managed plenty of posts talking about other clubs than the one i support. Whilst its commendable you love your team they shouldnt enter EVERY FUCKING CONVERSATION ANYBODY HAS IN THIS THREAD.

you dopes bring them into the conversation every other post with the retirement home pot shots.


its cyclical no doubt, but arsenal have never really gotten to the highest highs of that cycle.

[roosta]

there's basically no point in reading anything checkyourprez has to say in this thread.

anyways, yeah, Arshavin wrecks my head. As stated, he will do nothing for ages, then when you write him off he'll do his magic. But I don't think it's enough. We should sell him.

Clichy is also a huge problem. I really like him. He's the last Invincible, but he's gone completely off the tracks. I would be relatively comfortable because of Gibbs,but I fear Gibbs is a perma-crock.

Not to make excuses, but as Drederick said, we are not at full strength, yet we are still in with a fighting chance.

But on MOnday, we were very poor, but more importantly, United were very good. They shut us down.

[Freebasser]

David Brent... sorry... Ian Holloway, on the 2022 Qatar World Cup (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9300888.stm)

[Lex Diamonds]

I don't get where the Brent analogy comes from... Holloway is one of the most honest, insightful managers in the Premiership, while at the same time being the most entertaining. I find his interviews hilarious but at the same time wish that some of the bigger managers had the balls to say the shit he says. Of course, that's why he gets away with it, but that's beside the point. He is saying in no uncertain terms that Fifa is a rotten apple when it comes to corruption and that the whole Qatar farce totally devalues the sense of community that is supposed to surround a World Cup.

Plus he is a proper Bristolian lad, and you can't argue with that.

[checkyourprez]

i dont see anything wrong with russia and quatar getting the world cups.


i would have much rather seen england and or the united states get them, as i defiantly would have went to the one in the US and probably in england.

but its good for the sport. certain countries/regions shouldn't have a monopoly on hosting the world (key word here) cup.

[camo]

Yeah but say if you went to the Quatar world cup to watch Italy play you wouldn't be able to get some guy drunk and then bum him.

[checkyourprez]

Yeah but say if you went to the Quatar world cup to watch Italy play you wouldn't be able to get some guy drunk and then bum him.

yea, that doesn't bother me.

[camo]

I'm glad you're ok with the strict no alcohol, homosexual stuff then lol!

[checkyourprez]

Yea idk what you brits are into but id be going to the world cup to watch the worlds biggest sporting event and the best footballers on the planet, not get drunk and fuck dudes. If that's your thing you should def head to brazil in four years.

[camo]

Who said anything about the brits?

[checkyourprez]

Who said anything about the brits?

since you brought it up i figured thats what you guys are into over there.

[checkyourprez]

how much dust is andy gray smoking these days?

[camo]

Too much!

[checkyourprez]

adebayor going to real madrid for 6 months, possibly perminant. i dont see how hes going to force his way back into city with tevez, dzenko, and mario in front of him. especially with jo and santa cruz still on the team as well.



could blackstool be the team to give the manures their first loss of the season?!?!?!:confused:

[Guy Incognito]

adebayor going to real madrid for 6 months, possibly perminant. i dont see how hes going to force his way back into city with tevez, dzenko, and mario in front of him. especially with jo and santa cruz still on the team as well.



could blackstool be the team to give the manures their first loss of the season?!?!?!:confused:

could checkyourprez manage one post in this thread without resorting to stupid names?

[Guy Incognito]

how much dust is andy gray smoking these days?

hahahaha.

well i think he thought he was untouchable since the time everton tried to poach him and murdoch doubled his salary but the comments he's made - "yer just dont say those". haha.

[checkyourprez]

could checkyourprez manage one post in this thread without resorting to stupid names?

possibly.



doesnt look like manures ( :) )going down today though. blackpool fucked it, sloppy defending in this second half.


berba>rooney (not just on current form imo although that is way more than obvious. overall i prefer berba much more to wayner even when the forms were reversed)

10 minutes of stoppage time may be the most i have ever seen in a game.

[Planetary]

santa cruz has gone to blackburn mayn

[checkyourprez]

santa cruz has gone to blackburn mayn

ahhh yes yes. my mind was playing tricks on me, i knew there was a lot of talk about him moving to lazio and that didnt go through. then he goes to blackburn and thats that. slipped my mind.

still tho, 3 WORLD CLASS forwards that any team would take, and a promising young player who is not demanding a lot of time does not leave much room for ady.

[Drederick Tatum]

Adebayor had definitely fallen down the striking order, even if Balotelli isn't actually world class.

in other Mario news, his desire to play for Milan won't be satisfied any time soon if Zlatan has a say in it. "There is no place for Balotelli,” Ibrahimovic said, “At Milan we have Ibrahimovic..."

[Planetary]

^haha amazing.

i think adebayors gone to real madrid on loan?

edit: my sources (every sports website on the internet) have confirmed this.

[checkyourprez]

Adebayor had definitely fallen down the striking order, even if Balotelli isn't actually world class.

in other Mario news, his desire to play for Milan won't be satisfied any time soon if Zlatan has a say in it. "There is no place for Balotelli,” Ibrahimovic said, “At Milan we have Ibrahimovic..."

haha. to be totally honest i am assuming you made that up but that is totally something i could see him saying so i could believe it. either way zlatan is the man.

^haha amazing.

i think adebayors gone to real madrid on loan?

edit: my sources (every sports website on the internet) have confirmed this.

yea 6 month loan with an option to buy. look past my man u insults and you will find some information in my posts dog!

[checkyourprez]

Anderson hitting the nail on the head. (http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/01/23/2319876/anderson-english-football-has-too-much-running-and-not) In England they run too much, dont pass enough.

[roosta]

United v Arsenal for the title anyone? The way it should be....

[Guy Incognito]

United v Arsenal for the title anyone? The way it should be....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73IT9Z3H93c

indeed.(y)

And before you show overmars or wiltord winning titles at our gaff, in the interest of fairness, i tried to find that footage of the gooner going ballistic with one of the best faces ever when arsenal won at old trafford but i couldnt find it. Sky showed it for about 5 years after. Its classic.

[Freebasser]

Ahhh... the glory days.

It was always a fair fight with the Gunners, and you never knew who was going to come out on top.

These two goals will always stay fresh in my memory for very different reasons (unless I get Alzheimer's):

:mad: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbASd5CU3H8)

:D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI_LkMj4HI)

[Planetary]

Giggs was only 12 in that video and still had more chest hair than sean connery.

[rirv]

Suarez to Liverpool.
Torres won't be leaving... yet.

Even though we're in a right terrible position this is great news. yeah, sure he's unproven in the Premier League etc. but even if he gets half the goals and assists he's provided at Ajax he'll be worth every penny. Plus, if Reina gets injured or sent off we'll have a good substitute goal keeper. Shout out to Ghana.

[Guy Incognito]

. Shout out to Ghana.

hahaha(y)

whilst i think it wouldnt be such a bad idea for you lot to cash in on torres now, there is no way the board would let him go and risk a bad season afterwards, the new board need to keep you lot happy and it would take silly money to make him leave anfield.

[Planetary]

torres is gonnerrrssss. 50 meelions

[checkyourprez]

hahaha(y)

whilst i think it wouldnt be such a bad idea for you lot to cash in on torres now, there is no way the board would let him go and risk a bad season afterwards, the new board need to keep you lot happy and it would take silly money to make him leave anfield.

true. but if liverpool doesnt invest in some players torres is going to start getting pissed and start phoning it in perhaps. the suarez move is a great one and certainly in the right direction. now for most of the other positions on the field...

but i can see torres at chelsea. be a perfect fit to lead the line with drogba sure to be on his way out soon enough.

[Planetary]

Anyone ever think liverpool might be better without torres? just somethin i've been mulling.

[Guy Incognito]

Anyone ever think liverpool might be better without torres? just somethin i've been mulling.

possibly but he is only one of three decent players they have, its a big risk and if it means they struggle initially then the fans wont be happy. In this topsy turvy season i dont think they could afford to take that chance, i think he will go in the summer.

[checkyourprez]

why do english teams think english players are worth so much for transfers?


newcastle want 30 million for andy carroll??!?! darren bents 20 something million transfer, not to mention all his past expensive transfers! ect. ect.

[Guy Incognito]

why do english teams think english players are worth so much for transfers?


newcastle want 30 million for andy carroll??!?! darren bents 20 something million transfer, not to mention all his past expensive transfers! ect. ect.

fairly sure its to do with bosman ruling, i could be wrong (might be a euro market thing) its always been like that since the ruling came in. Plus i imagine its do with not wanting to relinquish your best players to possible rivals without getting massively paid in return.

[Freebasser]

We also have new rules about having a certain number of homegrown players in the squad, which means players born in this country or at least blooded from the age of 18.

This means the cost of English players is continuing to rise more, as foreign imports will only hinder clubs in the long run.

ect. ect.

etc. etc. (Et cetera) ;)

[Guy Incognito]

good shout sir.

i thought it was the same in any country tbh. maybe not, maybe cyp has not accounted for the fact that in italy clubs sell AC players at a berlusconi discount :p

[Guy Incognito]

i love deadline day, especially reading the bbc sport live text with all kinds of randommers chipping in.

some mental deals going thru (or not) - £35 mill for andy carroll, i understand the market forces but come on.

this made me smile on the text this morning:

"Emile Heskey has been spotted at Newcastle. Though, to be fair, he was probably aiming for Middlesbrough."

[checkyourprez]

i love deadline day, especially reading the bbc sport live text with all kinds of randommers chipping in.

some mental deals going thru (or not) - £35 mill for andy carroll, i understand the market forces but come on.

this made me smile on the text this morning:

"Emile Heskey has been spotted at Newcastle. Though, to be fair, he was probably aiming for Middlesbrough."

to sell torres for 50 and buy carroll for 35 seems like a massive waste to me. this will surely give chelsea a kick in the pants i would think.

[Freebasser]

I didn't know Big Ron was responsible for the upkeep of Bolton's website:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2011/1/31/1296508533677/Bolton-website-001.jpg

[Planetary]

torres is gonnerrrssss. 50 meelions

boom

[checkyourprez]

andy carroll: the worlds 7th most expensive footballer to date. (y)

[Planetary]

haha. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[Drederick Tatum]

great end to the transfer window. top drama. absolute madness on the part of Liverpool. makes the Dzeko deal look like an inspired bargin.

when they're gonna be throwing money around for a striker why didn't they throw it at Atlético Madrid to get Diego Forlan or Sergio Agüero? Forlan may be getting on a bit, but he's proven quality and works well with Suarez who they've also just bought. or even another Uruguayan, Edinson Cavani, who's been on fire in Serie A this season. he's equal to if not better than Carroll in the air. anyone of those, apart from Aguero, would've been cheaper than paying way over value for Carroll.

or is it all dependent on Liverpool's squad make-up? have they just got too many imports?

I'll be interested to see how Carroll performs without the guidance of Kevin Nolan. they seemed to form a good partnership on and off the field.

[rirv]

At first I was gutted that Torres was leaving. Then I was absolutely incredulous that £35 million was being dumped on Andy Carroll.

Then I decided to put a positive spin on it: selling Torres is a statement saying that no player is going to hold the club to ransom - if they want to go then go and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Then spending way over the odds on a very good English striker with lots of potential shows that Liverpool are back in the business of doing what the hell they like and not having to scrimp and save to service debts.

[Freebasser]

spending way over the odds on a very good English striker with lots of potential shows that Liverpool are back in the business of doing what the hell they like and not having to scrimp and save to service debts.

Unless you do a Leeds! :D

Seriously though, you're better off without Torres - he's a perfect example of a petulant manchild who's forgotten that playing football isn't all about the money. Rather like Wayne Rooney - I wish we were rid of that timewaster. He's holding Hernandez back by staying at United and hogging a first team place whilst doing nothing more than score a penalty every other month. I wouoldn't be surprised if Hernandez was off within a few years if Rooney keeps underperforming his way into the first team.

[Guy Incognito]

andy carroll: the worlds 7th most expensive footballer to date. (y)

i think he should have kkept his mouth closed and not said anything about not/wanting to leave, it doesnt look great to your new fans. Plus transfers arent always about quality more circumstance. Lentini anyone? At the end of the day. Torres was going and liverpool had to do something and that was always going to involve a shitload of money or get a makeweight on the cheap and i dont think that was ever a statement the new board would have wanted to make.

. Rather like Wayne Rooney - I wish we were rid of that timewaster. He's holding Hernandez back by staying at United and hogging a first team place whilst doing nothing more than score a penalty every other month. I wouoldn't be surprised if Hernandez was off within a few years if Rooney keeps underperforming his way into the first team.

whilst i understand the cooling of reception for wayne, his recent performances have been pretty good and he's creating a lot for berbatizzle. I think there will be an upturn in his form but he will go at some point in near future. I think fergie would rather sell him soon than risk letting hernandez go for silly money first.

[rirv]

i think he should have kkept his mouth closed and not said anything about not/wanting to leave, it doesnt look great to your new fans. Plus transfers arent always about quality more circumstance. Lentini anyone? At the end of the day. Torres was going and liverpool had to do something and that was always going to involve a shitload of money or get a makeweight on the cheap and i dont think that was ever a statement the new board would have wanted to make.


I think Andy Carroll saying "I didn't want to leave, but here I am, let's roll." is a much better statement than "I have now finally joined one of the greatest clubs in the world and can't wait to score against my old club at the weekend.".

[Guy Incognito]

I think Andy Carroll saying "I didn't want to leave, but here I am, let's roll." is a much better statement than "I have now finally joined one of the greatest clubs in the world and can't wait to score against my old club at the weekend.".

yup, fair do's.

[Lex Diamonds]

Unless you do a Leeds! :D

Seriously though, you're better off without Torres - he's a perfect example of a petulant manchild who's forgotten that playing football isn't all about the money. Rather like Wayne Rooney - I wish we were rid of that timewaster. He's holding Hernandez back by staying at United and hogging a first team place whilst doing nothing more than score a penalty every other month. I wouoldn't be surprised if Hernandez was off within a few years if Rooney keeps underperforming his way into the first team.
What are you talking about?! Rooney has assisted 10 goals this season (joint 2nd in the league) and his passing, vision and pace are all world class. He scored a lovely couple of goals last night which hopefully signals an end to his finishing "yips" and a return to his previous prolific scoring. Even if it doesn't, he's still a quality player who plays just as important a part in the team as Evra or Nani and it's ridiculous to say we would be better with Hernandez playing 90 minutes a game in his stead.

[Guy Incognito]

Nice one Gary, just dont make any sexist comments when you go to Sky

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9385692.stm

[Drederick Tatum]

Neville's even more of a wanker than the two idiots who've just left.

[Guy Incognito]

Neville's even more of a wanker than the two idiots who've just left.

well i'm not going to take you to task over that exaggeration but i dont think sky were ever going to appoint anyone who doesnt have an opinion. you want someone who everyone is going to shout at their tv. Gary is outspoken enough to do it.
thats if sky do give him a job, i'm only going off speculation i have heard.

[rirv]

Suarez scores within quarter of an hour of his debut at Anfield... not a bad way to begin to get over Torres.

[Planetary]

As the only Wolves fan on this board i feel it's my duty to say:

YES!! TAKE THAT MAN UTD!

We'll probably still get relegated though...

[Freebasser]

You guys played well.

We were atrocious - we've been desperate at times this season and this was one of them. You know things are bad when Scholes starts playing volleyball and Giggs is hacking Doyle down when the ball isn't even in play.

Hopefully, now all talk of being unbeaten is out of the window, it will give some of the players who were cruising (Carrick/Fletcher) that boot up the arse that they need.

I'm glad for Wolves - having spent a few years of my life in that fun little shithole, I've developed quite a soft spot for them. I'd be sorry to see them relegated, so I hope more results start to go their way (y)

[camo]

Wolves proved how shakey our defense is :-(

Speaking of defense, I saw Gary Neville on Football Focus on saturday morning and I was genuinely upset when I realised he'd never play for us again. There are countless people who hate him for loving/playing for the most hated club in the world but he's possibly one of the best right backs I've ever seen and ever will see.

But as a life long united fan - it's awesome to see a player who loved us as much as we loved him. In his 20 year career at united he was not once linked with another club - such was the belief from the other managers that he would never part with united.

Well done that red.

[Guy Incognito]

The defeat has been coming, sort of glad its out of the way and hopefully we can step it up but this league is always tight. At least all yesterdays games were fucking awesome, what a days football. I notice the gooners are absent. what a comeback


You know things are bad when Scholes starts playing volleyball and Giggs is hacking Doyle down when the ball isn't even in play.


Scholes' wasnt as good as the one in the super cup a few years back, that was belting.

As the only Wolves fan on this board....

Fair do's Planetary , i still think about 9 teams can go down . Momentum is key. Coming back to beat United after the way your last game ended at bolton is good skills.



Speaking of defense, I saw Gary Neville on Football Focus on saturday morning and I was genuinely upset when I realised he'd never play for us again. There are countless people who hate him for loving/playing for the most hated club in the world but he's possibly one of the best right backs I've ever seen and ever will see.

But as a life long united fan - it's awesome to see a player who loved us as much as we loved him. In his 20 year career at united he was not once linked with another club - such was the belief from the other managers that he would never part with united.

Well done that red.

Well said sir, check this article about him.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/03/the-fiver-gary-neville-andy-carroll

I'll quote the best bit if you cant be arsed:

The only bling this unspectacular but solid player has pursued is medals, and a man could burgle the home of every Liverpool player for the last 18 years and not collect as much silverware as Neville has earned

[Drederick Tatum]

4-4. opportunity lost.

Phil Dowd and the linesman Massey both had a shocking game. sends off Diaby for pushing Barton and after the first Newcastle goal you can see fat moron Dowd standing with his arms crossed like an alcoholic PE teacher watching as Szczesny gets thrown to the ground by Kevin Nolan. if that kind of thing would've happened out in general play Nolan would've been off immediately. later Dowd and Massey conspire to disallow a perfectly fine Newcastle goal and then decide to give one of the softest penalties of the season.

Arsenal were as responsible for their own downfall though. what's Koscielny doing fouling a player who's got his back to goal?!! Diaby can have no complaints and Squillaci and Rosicky were terrible when they came on. Rosicky was responsible for three goals, only two of them counted thankfully.

thank god for Wolves.

[checkyourprez]

As the only Wolves fan on this board i feel it's my duty to say:

YES!! TAKE THAT MAN UTD!

We'll probably still get relegated though...

forza wolves.(y)

[Freebasser]

As usual, the fake Italian brings the most to the conversation (y)

[checkyourprez]

As usual, the fake Italian brings the most to the conversation (y)


man ure loses to the seller dwellers. suckin on the last place dick.



that better?

[Freebasser]

United have been tired all season. Wolves played well. I said this much two posts ago.

You're a fucking child with nothing to add to ANY conversation in here. Stop the penis jokes and fuck off out of this thread and let the adults talk.

[Guy Incognito]

man ure loses to the seller dwellers. suckin on the last place dick.



that better?

no, it isnt. particularly as wolves arent last place or in the CELLAR.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm

[Planetary]

Yeah we've beaten the whole top 5 this season bar arsenal, who we've got next week...

Need to carry the form over to more important fixtures now...

[checkyourprez]

United have been tired all season. Wolves played well. I said this much two posts ago.

You're a fucking child with nothing to add to ANY conversation in here. Stop the penis jokes and fuck off out of this thread and let the adults talk.

grow up little boy no need to cry because your team lost and that hack of a defender was finally put out to pasture.

[checkyourprez]

forza man city.

[Planetary]

COME ON ME BABBIES!

[Guy Incognito]

what a fucking amazing goal that was.

forza wayne rooney

kinda disappointed andy gray wasnt there to say "take a bow son"

[checkyourprez]

Not going to lie, I think wayne is a tosser. But that was a SUPERB goal.

[camo]

Trevor Sinclairs was better but this one was more important.

And guy - no forza shite please.

[checkyourprez]

Trevor Sinclairs was better but this one was more important.

And guy - no forza shite please.

ill forza what i forza ya dig.

[Guy Incognito]

Trevor Sinclairs was better but this one was more important.

And guy - no forza shite please.

i was taking the piss mark

[Guy Incognito]

just seen this on bbc sport website:

As good as David Luiz appears to be, his real strength is that he looks like Sideshow Bob.

[camo]

i was taking the piss mark

Fuckin' hell man, you don't here robin calling batman 'Bruce' in public...

[Drederick Tatum]

Milan-Spurs.

Milan are a classless lot, Corluka on a stretcher after Flamini possibly breaks his foot and they're acting like they're the victims. Yepes then dives into Gomes for some unknown reason. all while Milan players are gesturing for every Tottenham player to be carded.

are all Italian teams like this or just the ones owned by politicians about to go on trial for using underage prostitutes? supporting Milan is like supporting Real Madrid under Franco.

I hope Spurs take this. but they probably won't.

[Guy Incognito]

Fuckin' hell man, you don't here robin calling batman 'Bruce' in public...

oh sorry i meant "i was taking the piss robin".

reminds me.. geezer goes for a job interview and its going really well and the interviewer is winding things up and asks bloke to tell her one weakness and one strength he possesses.
"Well my weakness is that i suffer from delusions and often lose touch with reality".
The interviewer looked a bit bemused and said "And your strength?"



"I am Batman".

[Guy Incognito]

Milan-Spurs.

Milan are a classless lot, Corluka on a stretcher after Flamini possibly breaks his foot and they're acting like they're the victims. Yepes then dives into Gomes for some unknown reason. all while Milan players are gesturing for every Tottenham player to be carded.

are all Italian teams like this or just the ones owned by politicians about to go on trial for using underage prostitutes? supporting Milan is like supporting Real Madrid under Franco.

I hope Spurs take this. but they probably won't.

spurs battered them first half, gattuso has gone fucking mental 2nd half, how he only has yellow i'll never know.
great break for goal. come on spurs

[checkyourprez]

gattuso is the man. flamini is the man. yepes is the man.

allegri = not the man. how many purtrid performances from seedorf before he buries him on the bench deeper than jankulovski???

for fucks sake we played with 10 v. 11 in the first half before he came to his senses and put pato on. from which we had a much better half despite surrendering the goal.

i knew it was bad knews as soon as i saw lennon running at yepes from half with only nesta and crouch to the left. and i saw abate, seemingly only runnign 75%. from which i said to myself "why are you not sprinting you fucking idiot, when lennon beats yepes, nesta has to step over and crouch will be wide open!!" sure enough about 4 seconds later....


i think we can overturn the deficite in london, but we desperatley need prince, pirlo, and ambro fit for that game.


zlatan was once again predominatly a flop in a big game. he gave away the ball that tottenham ended up capitalizing on. although he would have redemed himself had his goal at the death counted. that would have been nice.


awaiting the fortnight.

[Guy Incognito]

gattuso is the man. flamini is the man. yepes is the man.

allegri = not the man. how many purtrid performances from seedorf before he buries him on the bench deeper than jankulovski???

for fucks sake we played with 10 v. 11 in the first half before he came to his senses and put pato on. from which we had a much better half despite surrendering the goal.

i knew it was bad knews as soon as i saw lennon running at yepes from half with only nesta and crouch to the left. and i saw abate, seemingly only runnign 75%. from which i said to myself "why are you not sprinting you fucking idiot, when lennon beats yepes, nesta has to step over and crouch will be wide open!!" sure enough about 4 seconds later....


i think we can overturn the deficite in london, but we desperatley need prince, pirlo, and ambro fit for that game.


zlatan was once again predominatly a flop in a big game. he gave away the ball that tottenham ended up capitalizing on. although he would have redemed himself had his goal at the death counted. that would have been nice.


awaiting the fortnight.

flamini is a dick, bad challenge. gattuso is a nob, you cant behave like that. having 2 go at coaching staff who used to play for milan is not on. no respect.spurs were deserved winners.

[checkyourprez]

gattuso's passion for the shirt is unmatched. its refreshing in this day of premadonnas and money mercenaries.

apparently joe jordan called rino a "fucking italian bastard". that wont fly with the man.



interested to see how arsenal do today. they are a huge underdog with the bookies. either finally going to step up with the big boys or stay on their fifiman training club level.

[Guy Incognito]

gattuso's passion for the shirt is unmatched. its refreshing in this day of premadonnas and money mercenaries.

apparently joe jordan called rino a "fucking italian bastard". that wont fly with the man.



.

bollocks. passion for the shirt is playing with the football and trying to help your team win. Not prance about like a girl, whingeing at the ref, trying to wind the oppo up and acting like a spoilt child.
Passion is playing sensibly and making sure you do your best for your club which involves trying to make sure you dont get a booking so you dont miss next leg.:rolleyes:
He was fucking out of order, should have been sent off twice. Dont care what JJ called him. You dont retaliate and he should be used to abuse, he's a professional footballer, takes it every week, from players, fans staff etc. needs to grow up. If he is your idea of ideal footballer you need to seriously re-evaluate your shit luv.

[Planetary]

gattuso is a beast. i like him.

[Guy Incognito]

i quite like him and at one time would have welcomed him being in a united shirt. He has said all the right things today and it obviously was in heat of battle but cyp saying he is the man and having no thought that he had done anything wrong is wrong.

[Planetary]

nah he acted like a cock, but that's what gattuso does. hes a fiesty italian and his wife's a drunk scot.

it's a fiery combination.

[Drederick Tatum]

2-1! here we go!

unfortunately only managed to watch the first eight minutes live and then wimmins were needing me at a party. but just saw the 20 minute highlights on 101greatgoals. seems that we were both lucky and at times too quick for Barca. Arshavin did the one thing that he remains excellent at, however credit him for the hard running that put him in that position. these goals can only help his confidence...and his resale value.

I doubt Messi will be that wayward with his finishing at the Camp Nou, so Barca must still be the favourites, but when was the last time anyone beat them by playing positive football?

[Drederick Tatum]

rereading my last post it looks like I'm advocating that we park the bus at the Camp Nou. definitely not. last sentence refers to the fact that I can't remember who the last team was that beat Barcelona by actually playing football like Arsenal did last night.

in short, come on you Gunners.

[Guy Incognito]

whilst i think arsenal were brilliant 2nd half and it was a great thing, i do think there was some degree of barcelona beating themselves a bit last night. better finishing , better goalkeeping and maybe even keeping David Villa on the pitch longer might have been a different result. Dont get me wrong, arsenal showed an attitude that many thought they werent capable of and its a tremendous night for the fans but i just dont think Barca will be lacking for 2 legs on the bounce. They have to keep a clean sheet, if barca score i cant see arsenal going thru. But most people thought inter wouldnt do it their last year.

[Guy Incognito]

gattuso is the man.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9398824.stm

[Drederick Tatum]

^ I guess that's what unmatched passion for the shirt gets you.

[checkyourprez]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9398824.stm

lets take this in the Serie A thread brohan.



his actions were a bit out of line but thats just him. i remember watching a vid on youtube when gattuso was on the italian version of punked. rino starts going ballistic when the prank is going on chasing the guy. thats just who he is. you get on the pitch that doesnt just disappear. he is who he is. and thats the man.

[Guy Incognito]

i understand gattuso is a player you will defend to the hilt, every club has one and i understand its a difficult balance to keep the "animal" within. Its like roy keane for example but Gattuso is in his thirties now and should know where the line is,keane mellowed, others did too.Sure he tried to motivate his team but should have showed more self control. at the end of the day he has shown disrespect to a former AC player, embarrased his team and got himself band from the 2nd leg and the first three matches of next years comp.;)

[checkyourprez]

gattuso's comments on the matter...


“I made a fool out of myself, but respect is important," he said during an interview with the television programme Le Iene. “They gave me a five-match ban but to me it feels like a month in prison.

"My motto is 'show respect to those who show respect to you.' I went over to Joe Jordan after the final whistle and he took of his glasses in a show of defiance and started shouting profanity at me."



haha cassano made a funny comment to him...

"Antonio Cassano said to me, 'What a great example you have set, I should be your mentor!'

[Guy Incognito]

ouch! unlucky gooners.
&
RIP Dean Richards.

[checkyourprez]

And the gooners trophy drought continues. But let's be serious no one really thought arsenal was going to beat the mighty Birmingham.

[Guy Incognito]

And the gooners trophy drought continues. But let's be serious no one really thought arsenal was going to beat the mighty Birmingham.

it would be typical of arsenal if they now went and beat barca in nou camp. So inconsistent. But brum played well, keeper had a blinder and thats always a good thing in a cup final

[rirv]

I knew that the focus would on Arsenal losing rather than Birmingham winning.

Well done Birmingham. Solid job. Genuine joy from some players.

[Drederick Tatum]

how can the focus be on anything else when Arsenal were heavy favourites and lose because of an absolute howler?
credit to Birmingham as they did play to the occasion, but McLeish's game plan was so simple a chimp could've come up with it. the trophy was Arsenal's to lose, which they duly did. somehow it was all so depressingly predictable.

[Guy Incognito]

I knew that the focus would on Arsenal losing rather than Birmingham winning.

Well done Birmingham. Solid job. Genuine joy from some players.

everybody but cyp has said forza birmingham;) they played well but a side of arsenals stature should be winning that match. If a team beats barca a fortnight ago then surely its fair that everyone thought they should win today.

its never nice to lose on a big mistake, its always tough on someone and koscienly looked gutted.
but the better team won today

[Planetary]

Just for clarification. Birmingham are never the better team. ever. they're a bag of wank. they get like 3 fans turning up for home games, every goal they score is a lucky, bundled-over-the-line piece of shit and the ground set on fire last time i went. fuck them and fuck stupid stephen carr and liam ridgewell and red-face-ginger-hair-mccleish.

[checkyourprez]

lets be serious. the arsenal goalie should not have even been in this game after about 7 minutes. that linesman was smoking some serious dust to call lee offsides and negate what should have been a red card and penalty.


thats a little bit of football karma fellas.

[Lex Diamonds]

Ashley Cole is a fucking disgrace (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12593207). He just sums up Chelsea, a bunch of overpaid self-entitled wankers with the discipline and maturity of 15 year old attention-deficit problem children. I hope he burns in hell.

[Guy Incognito]

Shit.

[checkyourprez]

Shit.

the defending that let wayne snipe that goal certainly was.

[Lex Diamonds]

Why oh why did Hernandez start?! Against lesser teams it could almost be justified but he hasn't got the stamina or strength to play possession football. His discipline has come along leaps and bounds recently but he just doesn't have the vision or presence to play total football. Chelsea were 65/35 up on possession at one point! I was saying days ago that we should have started with Giggs on the left and Berbatov up front with Rooney, switching Giggs for Hernandez and moving to a 4-3-1-2 (with Rooney in the hole) around the 60/70th minute. What is the point in playing your impact players from the start against a full strength side with lots of energy? It makes no sense. I knew from the moment the squads were announced that we would drop off in the 2nd half and as painful as it was to watch, I was proven right.

Also, FUCK LUIZ. He should have been red carded 3 times over, and shouldn't even have been on the pitch when he scored. The challenge on Nani plus the ones on Rooney & Hernandez were all undisputable yellow card offences, yet he was allowed to go on and score while the referee had no hesitation in booking Vidic twice. The penalty decision was also an absolute joke, which anyone blue or red can see. When you've already given yourself an uphill struggle tactically it's pretty frustrating when the referee seems to be against you too.

3 points thrown away I reckon. That Rooney goal deserved more than the final result.

[Guy Incognito]

Why oh why did Hernandez start?! Against lesser teams it could almost be justified but he hasn't got the stamina or strength to play possession football. His discipline has come along leaps and bounds recently but he just doesn't have the vision or presence to play total football. Chelsea were 65/35 up on possession at one point! I was saying days ago that we should have started with Giggs on the left and Berbatov up front with Rooney, switching Giggs for Hernandez and moving to a 4-3-1-2 (with Rooney in the hole) around the 60/70th minute. What is the point in playing your impact players from the start against a full strength side with lots of energy? It makes no sense. I knew from the moment the squads were announced that we would drop off in the 2nd half and as painful as it was to watch, I was proven right.

Also, FUCK LUIZ. He should have been red carded 3 times over, and shouldn't even have been on the pitch when he scored. The challenge on Nani plus the ones on Rooney & Hernandez were all undisputable yellow card offences, yet he was allowed to go on and score while the referee had no hesitation in booking Vidic twice. The penalty decision was also an absolute joke, which anyone blue or red can see. When you've already given yourself an uphill struggle tactically it's pretty frustrating when the referee seems to be against you too.

3 points thrown away I reckon. That Rooney goal deserved more than the final result.

i agree with you about the decisions but in light of recent events there is no point complaining, we have done ok with decisions recently and its swings and roundabouts i am afraid.

i thought we played better before the change of system. i do agree that hernandez was a distant figure but they battered us second half

[Drederick Tatum]

I love how your narcissism seeps into everything, Padster.


anyway, a Chelsea win was a fair result. predictably Ferguson has come out against the ref which he seems to do every time Man Utd lose. if we're talking about players who shouldn't have been on the pitch, look no further than Wayne Rooney whose flying elbow against Wigan would've had Ferguson up in arms if the roles had been reversed.
Chelsea created far more chances and if not for a Van der Sar miracle save and the post, the result may have been even less in doubt.

I wouldn't worry though if I was a Man Utd fan, Arsenal's annual injury crisis means Rosicky and Bendtner will have to play a major role and well...yeah..

[Lex Diamonds]

Yeah, feeling vindicated for calling mistakes before they happen is so narcissistic. You're right man, I'm such a narcissist. I wish I didn't love myself so much. :(