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yeahwho
09-08-2010, 09:44 PM
So as much as I could give a rats ass about small minded individuals who lower the bar on society everyday the mainstream media loves to throw it in my face.

Why does CNN present these type of stories and how come Google and the rest of the web outlets put hyperbole on there daily grind of web news headlines?

Vatican: Quran burning 'outrageous' (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/08/florida.quran.reaction/)

Ignorance isn't really news is it? I'm not concerned so much about how fucked up either the Vatican or the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida are, I'm concerned that unemployed US families are hungry, broke and homeless tonight. The shift of everything in news is to focus on religious maniacs who have no concern over fellow Americans, just how bad the opposing religion is.

Why not give even time to religious groups looking for the good in life and praising it, when did assholes and racists morons become so newsworthy?

CNN, FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS want to be controversial so much they think ignorance is headline news and people who watch their news should be obsessed with ignorance, what a joke. Ignorance is rampant, it isn't news.

kaiser soze
09-08-2010, 10:14 PM
yeah I'm a bit confused about this as well

First - Ignore the ass, the more attention he and his little bunch o' bigots get the more this becomes a big issue

Second - Let local municipalities and laws take care of him, they were denied a burn permit so the instead the flames start arrest him.

Third - Why are people letting this "christian" mire the remembrance of a horrific event which also had Muslim victims that happened 9 years ago? Where the hell was he in 2002?

He's just another loon seeking attention, arrest him for violating burn laws and be over with it. Turn the cameras off and walk away.

travesty
09-08-2010, 11:54 PM
He's just another loon seeking attention, arrest him for violating burn laws and be over with it. Turn the cameras off and walk away.

(y)Perfectly spoken.

kaiser soze
09-09-2010, 01:15 PM
p.s.

It isn't the Quran burning we should be concerned about when it comes to retaliation on our soldiers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingers

Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.

Five of the soldiers are charged with murdering three Afghan men who were allegedly killed for sport in separate attacks this year. Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses, including members of the unit smoking hashish stolen from civilians.

These dogs need to be put down.

HAL 9000
09-10-2010, 08:55 AM
I am quite torn by this issue! Mostly I don’t care, but I also have this conflict where, on one hand, this pastor is clearly a dick, but on the other hand, I find it ridiculous that we have to have a fuss to avoid upsetting people who think these particular bits of paper have magic powers. It feels like, now if the books don’t get burned, we are saying it is acceptable to go all nuts about burning the books, and I strongly believe that nobody has the right not to be offended. On the other hand, if you do burn the books, you are just being rude, and then crazy people will get all violent about it and life will be worse.

Basically I think all parties are wrong on this issue, and I am not entirely comfortable that my own views are logically consistent. Perhaps if just burn Richard Dawkins effigy on top of a pile of all the worlds religious texts (maybe throw in a few communion wafers) everyone will be equally offended and we can all move on?

travesty
09-10-2010, 01:22 PM
I'm with you on this HAL. I find myself on both side of the argument and no side all at the same. I'm appalled that we should cow-tow to people who would commit violence in retaliation for being offended. That is unacceptable human behavior, period. To attempt to appease these douchebags with sensitivity seems like the wrong approach. I mean we didn't burn any Koran's and they still killed 3000+ people anyway on 9/11. Besides if invading the Holy Lands and killing thousands of muslim civilians hasn't given them enough recruiting propoganda, then I find it hard to believe this will have much of an effect. I'm tired of worrying about what the Muslim world thinks about anything. Seems to me like they have it all backwards anyway. While I wouldn't burn Korans, just because I don't toil with religious prejudices, I think they should spark up a whole stack of them just to push the issue. If Muslims as a whole start to feel some outrage it may force them to act either by taking greater moves to denounce and seperate the radical factions in their religion or they'll prove they are in fact a religion of intolerance. In America, we alway push the issue. I'm not comparing this a-hole to MLK or Larry Flynt but you get the point.

Guy Incognito
09-10-2010, 01:59 PM
A soul music fan in Florida is protesting that Heavy Metal must die and is inviting people to join him in burning 10,000 copies of Kerrang.

EN[i]GMA
09-10-2010, 06:40 PM
And yet you made a thread about the issue.

See the problem?

yeahwho
09-10-2010, 08:09 PM
I made the thread because I believe in freedom and the right to express it within legal bounds. I did not make this thread to discuss how to contain the ignorance of our freedoms, I'm wondering why journalists think bigoted, religious intolerance is acceptable news? It's perfectly legal to do whatever you want within the law.

Doesn't anyone else feel like impinging on a US citizens right to live free within the bounds of the law seem unacceptable? The media is portraying that freedom of expression should have limits. The media actually is becoming a conduit for ignorance and small mindedness which is sort of embarrassing. Robert Gates actually decided to take the publicity and use our media to give the official military stance.

This is a non story about small minded intolerance that exploits personal belief systems and sells crap back at small minded intolerant goofs in return. The danger is we are heading down a road where every fucking freedom we enjoy will become subject to a new law or act that hinders my freedom, such as posting negative thoughts about the United States political process or not enjoying certain aspects of various church activities.

The media will fall right behind in lockstep with governmental controls on freedom (check fairness doctrine) and the next thing you know we are all living in a Country that is subject to the Homeland Expression Act.

I don't think there is any story to report, which is the point of my starting the thread, the thread is about media manipulation, not denying free expression.

Dorothy Wood
09-10-2010, 09:11 PM
oh come on, this is obviously an interesting topic and if it wasn't reported, it would be weird.

I have only listened to NPR coverage about it and googled the story for some basic facts about the situation, so I haven't been completely inundated with "news" about it.

I'm optimistic about the whole thing, honestly. I hope that dumbass does go to NYC to talk to the people behind the hotly disputed community center/mosque. Maybe if he leaves his damn town and talks to people and sees there's more to the world, he might change his tune a bit.


as for free speech, gimme a break. burning books of any kind isn't about free speech, it's about censoring other people's speech. it's archaic and immature. and if some imam decided to burn a stack of bibles and made a big deal about it, dude's mosque already woulda been burned down before he could collect enough bibles to toss on the flames.

So, this dork canceled his party, but not because his right to free speech was taken by the government, because other people used free speech (and probably illegal threats) to shut that shit down.

yeahwho
09-11-2010, 12:24 PM
I see nothing more than the media making a moronic mountain out of a molehill. They created the story probably tipped from some Rush Limbaugh show listener and now every media outlet is entangled in joe blow the low IQ bigoted ass who happens to also be a church leader. Some dude is blogging about the Pastor in his pajamas this morning telling Aunt Betty we;re gonna have to do something about these here book burners or else by god!

yeahwho
09-12-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm going to be burning all of those Chicken Soup for the Soul books next June (http://sunnydayrecipes.com/articles-information/national-soul-food-month/120/), join me.

yeahwho
09-14-2010, 07:48 PM
A guy with a mustache like this (http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/dcblog/Pastor%20Terry%20Jones.jpg) really does command World leaders attention, I'm going to try and sport one of those 'stache's by June. Plus I'm upping the ante... Chicken Soup for the Soul plus any book by Dr. Stephen R. Covey (https://www.stephencovey.com/) is in the burn pile.