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The Notorious LOL
11-15-2010, 10:44 AM
The Mr Blue Sky/Twerk Dat Ass/Flava in Ya Ear/Liquid Swords had me pooping my pants

DIGI
11-15-2010, 11:58 AM
I'm extremely tempted to download to my work computer.

nodanaonlyzuul
11-15-2010, 01:55 PM
I tried to download it this morning and the download link would not load. :( I will be trying again this evening once I am home.

Drederick Tatum
11-15-2010, 02:12 PM
it seems the host server is taking a pounding.

Darko
11-15-2010, 02:30 PM
It's great, it even has some Hey Ladies samples on it.

yeahwho
11-15-2010, 02:36 PM
Illegal Art is jammed, I had to get creative.

There are various other servers popping up, I found it at the Hype Machine (http://hypem.com/#/search/girl%20talk/1/)which led me to this zip file (http://allthingsgomusic.com/girl-talk-all-day-album-download).

More sources are sure to pop up throughout the day.

Guy Incognito
11-15-2010, 03:00 PM
nice one yeahwho, i couldnt get on illegal art either.

i had no idea this was imminent. I listened to feed the animals the other day thinking it was about time for summat new.

i have only listened to first track, lovin it already

yeahwho
11-15-2010, 03:02 PM
It's great, it even has some Hey Ladies samples on it.

with iggy pop (y)

DIGI
11-15-2010, 03:13 PM
Shit's fire!

Guy Incognito
11-15-2010, 03:19 PM
It's great, it even has some Hey Ladies samples on it.

with iggy pop (y)

just got to this point - it did not disappoint(y)

DIGI
11-15-2010, 03:21 PM
Fabolous over INXS is genius.

Guy Incognito
11-15-2010, 03:30 PM
^ unfortunately it reminded me of this crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOivr5L6A04

having said that, some of these ideas have been done similarly before but girl talk does it so well and its obvious he takes his time instead of just sticking two tracks together and ..oh my god he's using "windowlicker" now.

Guy Incognito
11-15-2010, 03:51 PM
Does anyone know if he had to get any of these samples replayed? Our House by madness doesnt sound quite right, maybe he's just fucked about with it.
Genuinely shocked he's used madness tho'.

sorry i have taken this thread over as i listen to the album, what can i say, got carried away with the awesomeness.

Drederick Tatum
11-15-2010, 04:02 PM
There are various other servers popping up, I found it at the Hype Machine (http://hypem.com/#/search/girl%20talk/1/)which led me to this zip file (http://allthingsgomusic.com/girl-talk-all-day-album-download).


nice one.

EN[i]GMA
11-15-2010, 07:09 PM
Ante Up over Party in the USA is funny as fuck.

And it's funny how Hey Ladies was is like a Girl Talk song from 1989.

The Girl Talk version has even fewer samples than the original.

Tzar
11-16-2010, 07:20 AM
girl talk never disappoints (y)

that liquid swords bomb was indeed huge.

Guy Incognito
11-16-2010, 08:50 AM
on 2nd and 3rd listens, not sure its as good as FTA but still some great ideas.

DIGI
11-16-2010, 09:31 AM
Yeah, Play Your Part might be the most epic intro to an album ever.

Iron Eagle and shit!

kaiser soze
11-16-2010, 09:40 AM
granted GT has skills but what I'm curious about - how do any of his tracks create an identity compared to the other tracks- every song is a mix, the dynamics of the song change from the beginning to the end, there really is no story being told, just a big mashup.

Even though there are different elements being mixed in each song - you could interchange any one with the other. Sounds like one big mashup broken into "songs"

I'm sure it's great party music - I've never seen him live in person but the videos look like a smash.

I discovered Pretty Lights about the same time as Girltalk and have definitely gravitated towards his production over Girltalk.

no hatin' just curious

Guy Incognito
11-16-2010, 10:32 AM
i dont think there has to be a story to be told. I think some tracks have different feel to the others, some are more upbeat. Like you said its party music, its nice to hear really old tracks done in a new way, its also good to hear some stuff for the first time. It is more of a curiosity, i dont think i could constantly listen to either album (has he done anymore, are they any good?) but once in a while they pick up the spirits.

yeahwho
11-16-2010, 12:23 PM
granted GT has skills but what I'm curious about - how do any of his tracks create an identity compared to the other tracks- every song is a mix, the dynamics of the song change from the beginning to the end, there really is no story being told, just a big mashup.

Even though there are different elements being mixed in each song - you could interchange any one with the other. Sounds like one big mashup broken into "songs"

Listening for a theme in this music could drive you crazy. I think the reason I have already catapulted this to the top of my 2010 releases (as was Feed the Animals in'08) is multiple. This will be my review in list style.

1. It's free, no strings attached you can go your own way.
2. Greg Gillis (Girl Talk) knows his rock/hip hop history.
3. The mix is flawless, it segues like butter (the breaks are intentional)
4. Each mix has multiple memories and emotions, I can be thinking about 3 different decades of music and parties while still hearing something completely new out of songs I haven't listened to in years.

He is the best at mashing, there is no doubt in my mind and I'm a huge fan of the medium. I have seen him live and yes it turns the venue into a sloppy ass party. This album is not quite as cranked as the previous releases and IMO that is for the better, he needed to drag the needle a bit and he has now done it.

All Day is in my top 10 for '10 somewhere between 5 and 10.

checkyourprez
11-16-2010, 12:39 PM
this is the hot flaming off the chain tits.

roosta
11-16-2010, 02:41 PM
It's very good.

Fabolous over INXS is genius.

It reminded me of the British rapper Professor Green who has a song out sampling it.

Also, at one point he uses "Time After Time" with an electro beat....which Z-Trip did already on "Uneasy Listening Pt. 1" Seemed to close for comfort.

But all in all, still super great.

Tzar
11-16-2010, 05:26 PM
I've never seen him live in person but the videos look like a smash.
the first GT i ever heard was him live at Big Day Out. never knew what he did/what he was gonna bring... nothing...

he pulled one of the biggest crowds and had them, and myself, dancing the whole time. not just at the start of his set and near the end with big songs, but the whole set... it was beautiful. he knows how to make music (albeit mash music) to get the crowd moving and make ya smile because it's awesome hearing kelly clarkson lyrics over black sabbath or whatever.

Kid Presentable
11-17-2010, 05:06 AM
Listening to Girl Talk is nowhere near as satisfying as telling people I listen to Girl Talk.

Knuckles
11-17-2010, 07:45 AM
Listening to Girl Talk is nowhere near as satisfying as telling people I listen to Girl Talk.

I tell people I like to play Girl Talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLo_xytKZQM).

The album delivers. (y)

DIGI
11-17-2010, 09:43 AM
He's popping the cherry on the new concert venue they're building beside Heinz Field where the Steelers play in Dec. 2 day show. I was kind of on the fence about going to even 1 show, but this new album has me seriously thinking about both days. I guess I'm just kind of jaded. I used to see him at Mr. Smalls where there was maybe 50 people. Now, it's a much larger venue that's elbow to asshole with raver kids. The shows have never changed, but you just have to deal with glowsticks now.

Guy Incognito
11-17-2010, 10:51 AM
wish he'd turn up in uk. I have managed to get a few people to DL new album this week who were intriuged.

also been reading up on the guy a bit more. all the legal stuff and free use policy is interesting

From a uk perspective its good to hear lots of us stuff in his stuff that i have never heard before and its also good to hear a lot of uk stuff that i am surpsrised to hear. like Madness for example. he really seems to know his shit.

djtopcat
11-17-2010, 05:54 PM
As a fellow mashup producer since 1999 I have to say it is a huge step backward for Greg (Girltalk) The man has a wealth of music knowledge, and he chooses Flock of Seaguls-I ran? Lady Gaga? Woka Floka whatever the fuck his name is? Technically it's spot on, on beat sounds clean etc,
but you have to be tone deaf not to hear that Beyonce and Ante up are way out of key. Same with the Fughazi mash. Inexcusible to have more than a few key clashes if you want to be taken seriously by anyone other than a bunch of EMO college kids.
For all the hype this album received to me it really is just the same cookie cutter chopped up mish mash of the same boring crunk hip hop acapellas over a lot of the same overused top 40 crap. I thought Feed the Animals was well produced, but this wasn't half as original.
The album starts off with my fave band Black Sabbath's War Pigs with Ludacris' over the top, hey that's cool but unfortunately it sounds nearly identical to the Inhumanz earlier version which had Nas called Shoot the War Pigs. I know Greg heard that because he's played their 50 Cent w' Nine Inch Nails in his sets. The Inhumanz,Ztrip,DJ P were the originators of hip hop acapellas over heavy metal and hard rock ten years ago!
Just saying All Day could have been much much better. It's fun to listen to, but it's not even his best work. You want to hear a truly talented mashup producer check out Earwax etc or go visit the UK site GYBO (Get your bootleg on) :)

yeahwho
11-17-2010, 06:36 PM
I respectfully disagree, It's a masherpiece. I have GYBO, Earwax, Bootie NYC and many other mix artists linked up and I repeatedly check them all out like the geek I am, it's always easy to find fault or disappointment in all forms of art even when it's art just ripping off art, which is what this is. It's the best mashup of the year, if you think somethings hotter link me up.

All Day consists of 372 overlapping samples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Day_%28album%29) of other artists' songs.

djtopcat
11-18-2010, 03:23 AM
Everybody has their own opinion. I just think it could have had much better combinations and way more creativity. I actually liked Feed the Animals. All in all it's just cheesy college party music fun to listen to and that's about it.
In case you don't know software like Audiomulch and Ableton make it pretty easy to dump 1000 samples into and come up with something. Try doing that shit live with actual vinyl like DJ P or Z Trip, but whatever floats your boat right? :)

Sir SkratchaLot
11-18-2010, 05:48 AM
So why is this different than any sample based hip hop of the 90s? Paul's Boutique had a zillion samples. Instead of live mcs, Girl Talk is using accapellas.

The whole "mashup" shit is hillarious to me. This has been going on since the 70s, and somebody came up with the term "mashup" and then everybody started tripping like it was something new. What was it Flavor Flav said? "Don't believe the hype."

Anyway, he does an excellent job of arranging. Tracks drop in and out at nice spots. He's not just throwing shit together and hoping it works. There is such a thing as too much though. I think he sacrifices something by trying to jam as much as he can into the mix to impress people.

Anyway, I don't want to take anything away from Girl Talk. More than the actual music, I like how he's daring the industry to sue him to push the fair use defense. He could very well be my hero at the end of the day if he wins in the Supreme Court.

DIGI
11-18-2010, 07:29 AM
All in all it's just cheesy college party music fun to listen to and that's about it.

What's wrong with that? I didn't know mashup artists were to be the progressive leaders of the music industry.

Kid Presentable
11-18-2010, 07:52 AM
It's good when you have people over to drink and bbq and play monopoly.

kaiser soze
11-18-2010, 08:33 AM
Everybody has their own opinion. I just think it could have had much better combinations and way more creativity. I actually liked Feed the Animals. All in all it's just cheesy college party music fun to listen to and that's about it.
In case you don't know software like Audiomulch and Ableton make it pretty easy to dump 1000 samples into and come up with something. Try doing that shit live with actual vinyl like DJ P or Z Trip, but whatever floats your boat right? :)

vinyl mashups are exceptionally difficult, just figuring out what works is a tedious process in itself - of course when your Z Trip anything is possible.

Sir SkratchaLot
11-18-2010, 09:22 AM
DJ Marcus B, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWZZipNSBiw&feature=related

Beastie Boys, 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilZshY6uUo

Grandmaster Flash 1981
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU30dyTX0hc

Grandmaster Caz and Afrika Bambaataa 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S79l9BLNRjs

If you break it out of the DJ context you can go back to Zappa and even further. "Mashup" is just a crossover term used to get the average joes to pay attention to what hip hop artists had been doing for 25 years.

kaiser soze
11-18-2010, 09:39 AM
How about Negativland? They slapped together commercial jingles, political speeches, rock music, ambient sound. Talk about mashing shit up.

Back then it was called sampling and they actually had some serious copyright violation claims against them (Island Records, Pepsi)

yeah sampling/mixing isn't new, but the coined term "mashup" is fairly new - and seemingly more acceptable as a genre/trend I guess. GT uses popular music on both ends of the musical spectrum (Rap/Rock) that makes it more accessible to the masses. Timing of the release is just in time to make it to your stereo for your NYE party.

Girl Talk is the new college rock.

M|X|Y
11-18-2010, 09:45 AM
DJ Marcus B, 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWZZipNSBiw&feature=related

Beastie Boys, 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilZshY6uUo

Grandmaster Flash 1981
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU30dyTX0hc

Grandmaster Caz and Afrika Bambaataa 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S79l9BLNRjs

If you break it out of the DJ context you can go back to Zappa and even further. "Mashup" is just a crossover term used to get the average joes to pay attention to what hip hop artists had been doing for 25 years.


ZACTLY

But I gotta say, this is some HOT SHIT - take it for what it is.. grooves. Original? Groundbreaking? No. Fun shit? YES.

Listening to it now and so far Jump on Stage is getting some replays(y)

Sir SkratchaLot
11-18-2010, 10:38 AM
ZACTLY

But I gotta say, this is some HOT SHIT - take it for what it is.. grooves. Original? Groundbreaking? No. Fun shit? YES.

Listening to it now and so far Jump on Stage is getting some replays(y)

I agree 100%. It's not exactly my style, but he definately deserves credit where due. It's not like the man is some hack who's tricked people into thinking he's got skills. He's got skills, no doubt. He keeps shit moving, his arrangement is effortless (which is difficult to pull off) and he knows how to give his audience what they want. He's killing it on many levels.

Guy Incognito
11-18-2010, 11:54 AM
Easy my arse. I have tried to do a girl talk style mash/tribute on ableton a few times and while it appears technically achievable, some of the subtler things he does are very hard to achieve.
i do agree about the beyonce/mop bit but other than that i think the man is a total genius.

The Notorious LOL
11-18-2010, 05:03 PM
If its easy, I expect an album surpassing the quality of "All Day" by next Monday from djtopcat. Thanks.

Dorothy Wood
11-18-2010, 08:00 PM
I still cannot get into mash ups. they make my face hurt.

M|X|Y
11-18-2010, 10:53 PM
Putting all mash ups into one category is kind of like putting all kinds of rap/hip hop into the same basket

Girl Talk is more literally a mash up: snips and clips put together really well.. tweaking tempos, blending rhythms and lyrics together cohesively in a way that holds together on its own but with each piece still mostly recognizable. This is sort of like something you'd hear at a club with a great DJ packaged as an album. He could conceivably have this set up to perform live, reproducing the original everytime in a way that resembles the album.

Then you've got a Max Tannone and his style, namely Jaydiohead, where he almost literally plays the instrumentals like the notes of a piano and uses individual colors and phrases much more precisely and meticulously to within the instrumentals to create new and sometimes unrecognizable music tracks that stand alone and are often unrecognizable from the original. I'd put that MUCH more on the level of art. Its more than just fun, its closer to actual creation. Much harder to replicate in a performance sense live. Dense as HELL in a really good way.

I think both styles have their strong merits and conducive to different tastes. In either case, dismissing "mash-ups" as anything less valid is going back to when rap was not considered real music and somehow less than legitimate. This is just another subcategory of hip hop

Guy Incognito
11-19-2010, 03:02 AM
i did think about suggesting this once before but seeing as its come up again. Anyone on here who fancies themselves as a producer/remixer who wants to have a go at emulating girl talk, maybe using beastie acapellas or others, just try and chuck as much in as possible. I'll give it a go, see what happens. I dont think we should go mental, maybe 10 minutes maximum. It'll probably take me a while (GT will have probably knocked up two more albums by the time i finish! but i will try and post something on here

Anyone else think they can do it?

mathcart
11-19-2010, 03:02 PM
All Day consists of 372 overlapping samples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Day_%28album%29) of other artists' songs.

also here (http://alldaysamples.com/)
which has the advantage of letting you know what is being mashed in real time. Not to get into the discussion, but listening to it with this made me more impressed with it.
(y)

yeahwho
11-20-2010, 09:10 AM
mathcart, that playa is the schnizzle schnazzle on the rizzle razzle

Dorothy Wood
11-20-2010, 03:06 PM
GMA;1747068']Ante Up over Party in the USA is funny as fuck.

And it's funny how Hey Ladies was is like a Girl Talk song from 1989.

The Girl Talk version has even fewer samples than the original.


well see, I guess I prefer the old stuff like that, where you had to do some actual real work for samples. then add your own words and voice.

I'm just not that interested in hearing songs that I've heard before, jammed all together...no matter how artfully it's done.

and no, I haven't listened to the whole album. I tried the first track and it just made me think I'd rather be listening to Black Sabbath.

not a fan.

EN[i]GMA
11-21-2010, 04:32 PM
well see, I guess I prefer the old stuff like that, where you had to do some actual real work for samples. then add your own words and voice.

Paul's Boutique has several pretty common samples on it. Lots of Sly and the Family Stone, the Beatles for God's sake.


I'm just not that interested in hearing songs that I've heard before, jammed all together...no matter how artfully it's done.

How many hip hop songs use Apache, Synthetic Substitution, or one of a half dozen other ultra-common breaks?

Thousands.

Do you not listen to any of them?


and no, I haven't listened to the whole album. I tried the first track and it just made me think I'd rather be listening to Black Sabbath.

not a fan.

That's fine.

Guy Incognito
11-22-2010, 02:04 PM
and no, I haven't listened to the whole album. I tried the first track and it just made me think I'd rather be listening to Black Sabbath.

.


each to their own i suppose but i have to confess to enjoying listening stuff like this knowing there are kids out there hearing sabbath for the first time. Gillis must get a real buzz out of stuff like that and i enjoy that fact too. I know that sounds kinda weird but i am a bit weird.

jabumbo
12-04-2010, 04:18 PM
finally got around to listening to this and i really enjoyed it. i think the fact that it has recognizable samples is what i enjoy most. since a lot of the tunes i only really know major riffs and a few lyrics, it fits for me.


more excitingly though, is that i get to see this all unfold live tonight. quite excited to see how much of this new stuff gets tossed out compared to what he had from before.

yeahwho
01-19-2011, 11:51 AM
Here is The 373 Hit Wonder (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/magazine/09GirlTalk-t.html?scp=1&sq=girl%20talk&st=cse), an article form last weekends NYTimes magazine on Gregg Gillis and the Girl Talk Phenomenon. Maybe Girl Talk has just Jumped the Shark.

lots of controversial comments on mash-ups vs. hip hop vs. intellectual property theft (not art) (http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/magazine/09GirlTalk-t.html)

Plus they have this The Recombinant DNA of the Mash-Up (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/01/09/magazine/mashup-timeline.html?ref=magazine)

At the same time All Day was relelased so was KIDS & EXPLOSIONS (http://www.kidsandexplosions.com/) Shit Computer (free download here (http://www.kidsandexplosions.com/shitcomputer/)). It's great if yer ask'n me, it takes a lot of listens and an open mind but the jilted manic stop/go style has a few real gems in it.

The opening song is really awesome Everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlWi_HbWrw&feature=related) and there's this track called Babies Are The Future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xSimuu3WzQ&feature=related)

That Kids and Explosions web site if fucking wasted. (y)