Watch The Throne - Jay-Z & Kanye

[mickill]

I think this will be the more "traditional hip hop" sounding of the two projects Kanye had been dividing his time between over the last year. If 'The Joy' is any indication of what to expect it should be a pretty awesome album. That's My Bitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW_Q5uqqvEA) isn't really my cup of tea, but I'm hoping it's less indicative of the overall sound. It's not bad, though.

I heard Preemo really will be contributing to this one. We'll see, I guess.

[pshabi]

Beat is nice. CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS ALBUM!

[mickill]

H.A.M. (http://hulkshare.com/q6yudmvi65ma)

[Planetary]

the HAM beat is off the chain

[Guy Incognito]

hmmm, might take a coupla listens. not sure. nice surprise of la roux ( i think its her anyway).

[roosta]

H.A.M is pretty decent

[pshabi]

"Otis" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/jay-z-kanye-west_n_905652.html)

[Lex Diamonds]

"Otis" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/jay-z-kanye-west_n_905652.html)
(y)

[Kid Presentable]

"Otis" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/jay-z-kanye-west_n_905652.html)

(y)

[Guy Incognito]

I dunno, need a few more listens maybe. its a big song to be messing with.

[pshabi]

Upon further review: dis shit dope.

[Guy Incognito]

still not feeling it, i'm just not sure it works, it'd be interesting to hear your reactions on a lesser known artist using that tune like that. if you guys are referring to two's rhymes then fair do's.I'm not an expert on all that but i just cant relate to the beats..yet.

[BBboy20]

*Wikis Otis Redding*

[pshabi]

They announced tour dates and they are holding a presale tomorrow morning. You have to RSVP through Facebook to get the password. I'm going to try to get tix for oct 7 in chi-town. Gonna be mad $$$$$.

[Jiberish]

I liked it better when Masta Killa flipped it for D.T.D. but I do like how they rapped over something that is barley a beat. It's cool/different. Not my two fave artists, but hip hop needs people to try new sounds. so win/draw?

[Guy Incognito]

i think a beat can be made out of anything , i just feel the largeness of the sampled tune just overpowers them a bit.

I have listened to it about 20 times now and its still a struggle.:(

[Micodin]

I have listened to it about 20 times now and its still a struggle.:(

You're missing out. Song is a banger!

[checkyourprez]

i like the beat.

but man jay z annoys the shit out of my now a days. hes so overrated. his rhymes and stuff might be alright. but his voice and rhyme style aggravate me. i dont think he is any where near one of the top rappers in the game nor ever has been.

he lucked out being one of the only rappers from the 90s to be able to change with the times and still be relevant. i give him props for that. but he just bores the shit out of me. too many d riders.

[Monsieur Decuts]

i think a beat can be made out of anything , i just feel the largeness of the sampled tune just overpowers them a bit.

I have listened to it about 20 times now and its still a struggle.:(


I'm with you Guy...i have trouble with rhymes over vocal samples...this would have a been a great tune with a different beat. Similar to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nR9VHkQxHw I just can't get over the vocals.

Any who imma buy this album just to keep feeding Kanye respect so he keeps making music...When he's on...he's untouchable.

[checkyourprez]

I'm with you Guy...i have trouble with rhymes over vocal samples...this would have a been a great tune with a different beat. Similar to this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nR9VHkQxHw I just can't get over the vocals.

Any who imma buy this album just to keep feeding Kanye respect so he keeps making music...When he's on...he's untouchable.

making beats and creating music i think kanye is about at the top of the game right now.

as a rapper i think he sounds amateurish. but comparing to him to what else is out hes certainly listenable.

[Guy Incognito]

I have to say that i applaud the idea and trying to push it and do different stuff. I'm just disappointed that i dont feel it. not the sum of its parts imo.

[pshabi]

but man jay z annoys the shit out of my now a days. hes so overrated. his rhymes and stuff might be alright. but his voice and rhyme style aggravate me. i dont think he is any where near one of the top rappers in the game nor ever has been.


:eek::eek::eek:

[pshabi]

They changed the tour schedule the day of the presage. Chi date went from October to a Thursday in December. No throne watching for me. :(

[checkyourprez]

:eek::eek::eek:

just not the special to me.

benefited from tons of promotion and always getting hot radio/club friendly beats. keeps him in the public eye. keeps people talking about him. and thinking that because hes got all these hits that hes one of the best to ever do it.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah he was basically nothing special in the 90s (RD is good, but not that good), and then he benefitted hugely from Just, Kanye and the Neptunes (and to a lesser extent Timberland). Biggie's death seems to have helped him a lot, too.

Not to completely downplay him, he has some amazing tracks. There is just so much utter shit in his catalogue for the best rapper alive, and sometimes when he raps I think he's actually a stupid person. But, he straddles a very unique niche in rap: too soft to be a gangster, to hood to be a backpacker.

Of course, any argument disputing his reign requires one to name five rappers that are better, and those five are inevitably torn down by Jay-Z proponents who start contrasting on the basis of flow, charisma, sales, longevity, adaptability, beat selection, content, writing etc etc. They probably have a point.

Still, this album should be good. Otis is amazingly dope.

tl;dr It's weird to me how Jay-Z is so highly revered.

[Lex Diamonds]

Yeah he was basically nothing special in the 90s (RD is good, but not that good), and then he benefitted hugely from Just, Kanye and the Neptunes (and to a lesser extent Timberland). Biggie's death seems to have helped him a lot, too.
You're kind of contradicting yourself there. I agree that RD is overrated, but he was definitely something special in the 90s even before he jacked Young Chris' flow. The fact that he worked with all the people you mentioned and was so tight with Big kind of proves that.

[Kid Presentable]

You're kind of contradicting yourself there. I agree that RD is overrated, but he was definitely something special in the 90s even before he jacked Young Chris' flow. The fact that he worked with all the people you mentioned and was so tight with Big kind of proves that.

True about the contradiction, not even to the rest.

[checkyourprez]

You're kind of contradicting yourself there. I agree that RD is overrated, but he was definitely something special in the 90s even before he jacked Young Chris' flow. The fact that he worked with all the people you mentioned and was so tight with Big kind of proves that.

Lil cease and puff were tight with big. Point?

[roosta]

Chuck D's response to "Otis". (http://youtu.be/161ZRrJZESA)

In fairness, I like the beats/flow and all of WTT, but the consistent talking about how rich they are is a bit jarring these days.

[Kid Presentable]

In fairness, I like the beats/flow and all of WTT, but the consistent talking about how rich they are is a bit jarring these days.

To be honest, the whole thing is pretty fucking boring to me.

[Guy Incognito]

Chuck D's response to "Otis". (http://youtu.be/161ZRrJZESA)

In fairness, I like the beats/flow and all of WTT, but the consistent talking about how rich they are is a bit jarring these days.

that chuck d thing is far better use of the samples and the lyrics are better.

[pshabi]

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[Audio.]

otis - not digging it.

[Kid Presentable]

No Church in the Wild is incredible. Not feeling anything else other than Otis.

I will say I respect the fuck out of them for going the unexpected route production wise, and just the overall feel. It definitely sounds more like a unique entity than just a Jay and Kanye album. I just can't get that excited about it.