Carlos Estevez aka Charlie Sheen

[checkyourprez]

is this guy killing it or what?


really doing it big right now.

[JoLovesMCA]

I feel bad for him. I mean at first I thought he was just being a diva but no he needs some serious help. I don't know if Dr. Drew is worried about him then it's not good!

[silence7]

Heard a little bit about what's going on with him on NPR today (http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/02/28/134141622/charlie-sheens-media-tour-continues-but-his-publicist-isnt-on-board), wow, he's either gone off the deep end, or he's got ahold of some good shit. Either way, he needs to get some help. He's throwing away his career.

[rirv]

"I am on a drug, it's called 'Charlie Sheen'. It's not available because if you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body."
"I have a grandiose life. I embrace it. Sorry my life is so much more bitchin' than yours. I planned it this way."
He is grade A entertainment.

I think he must be auditioning to play Colonel Gaddafi in a movie.

[Echewta]

Finally Two and Half Men is funny!

[M|X|Y]

WINNING!

(drugs suck)

[checkyourprez]

WINNING!

(drugs suck)

just because you couldn't handle the drug known as charlie sheen.

[nodanaonlyzuul]

it was so off the deep end I couldn't help but watch.

In one way it is entertaining and that TV show is garbage. But then the guy has kids and for him to be so far gone is pretty sad.

[checkyourprez]

it was so off the deep end I couldn't help but watch.

In one way it is entertaining and that TV show is garbage. But then the guy has kids and for him to be so far gone is pretty sad.

thats life my dear. can't save them all. one would go crazy them-self trying to.

[M|X|Y]

WINNING has so much internet meme potential, someone get on it!

magic and poetry at my fingertips(y)

[little j]

his crash is going to be monumental.
such arrogance.

**pause**

WINNING

**scoffing laugh**

[M|X|Y]

i dunno, have you seen steve-o from jackass? if that dude can get sober, anyone can.

the way his appearance has decayed in the last month is astounding. his life must be a nightmare right now

[checkyourprez]

dude really is cool as hell tho. he doesnt give a fuck. thats whats up. to many losers are so worried about image and are afraid to say things because they dont want bad publicity.

the guy rules.



the straight shooting is refreshing.

[Schmeltz]

^That's fucking ridiculous. This moron is sinking his career. Does he imagine that he's ever going to get work again after this manic display of unprofessionalism? He's going to blow through his money (in every sense of the word) in no time. Bree Olson will ditch him once he starts smacking her around or shoots her in the arm. In a couple of years he'll be dead or on the streets.

Three failed marriages. Three hospitalizations in three months. Burnt bridges out the ass. The only straight shooting Charlie Sheen is doing is off of his mouth and into his foot.

[checkyourprez]

^That's fucking ridiculous. This moron is sinking his career. Does he imagine that he's ever going to get work again after this manic display of unprofessionalism? He's going to blow through his money (in every sense of the word) in no time. Bree Olson will ditch him once he starts smacking her around or shoots her in the arm. In a couple of years he'll be dead or on the streets.

Three failed marriages. Three hospitalizations in three months. Burnt bridges out the ass. The only straight shooting Charlie Sheen is doing is off of his mouth and into his foot.

Must be some sort of a joker.


This guy is the hottest thing going. All over fb twitter has his own soundboards. He's too real for some people. He got 500,000 twitter followers in 1 day.

[checkyourprez]

Additionally he's not even on drugs! Atm anyway. On 20/20 they challenged him to take a drug test and he said give me the cup right now. Pee'd in one after the show and passed.

Blood of a tiger bro.

[silence7]

Twitter user for ONE DAY, and already 500k followers.. WOW, I think he may have broke Conan's record...

http://twitter.com/CharlieSheen

[Schmeltz]

He's too real for some people.

Three failed marriages. Three hospitalizations in three months. His publicist quit. He's lost his job and made enemies of his employers. That's not real, brah. It's failure. He might be able to impress a few idiots (not to point fingers or anything) talking out his ass, but that's a pretty poor substitute for actually having your shit together.

Turns out you can't buy class. Who knew?

[Bob]

i've met crazier people in subway stations who get less attention than charlie sheen

overrated!

[M|X|Y]

Three failed marriages. Three hospitalizations in three months. His publicist quit. He's lost his job and made enemies of his employers. That's not real, brah. It's failure. He might be able to impress a few idiots (not to point fingers or anything) talking out his ass, but that's a pretty poor substitute for actually having your shit together.

Turns out you can't buy class. Who knew?


You had me till the 'class' thing... He's probably always been kind of a dick, but he used to cover pretty ok up at least.
Even though he's supposedly clean, his brain is completely fried and out of whack.
Angry, unmedicated bi-polar people can be unpleasant or funny depending on how you look at it

[M|X|Y]

He's an F-18 for chrissakes!

[Dorothy Wood]

he reminds me of my dad in the late 80's when he was all coked up and weird.

[M|X|Y]

Does coke make people's teeth fall out? I want to know if his teeth really did fall out, if he really wears dentures. that is some SHIT

[Dorothy Wood]

I don't know, I think Charlie was probably doing plenty of things that would make his teeth fall out.

[Lex Diamonds]

This is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

I hope he doesn't die. Or if he does, he goes out in a blaze of glory.

"When's the last time you used?"
"I use a blender, I use a vacuum cleaner..."

"I was banging 70 gram rocks, because that's how I roll!"

[mikizee]

He's the hottest thing in Hollywood right now. I'm sure his agent is probably getting a few offers from studios willing to take the risk.

His Alex Jones interview is probably the greatest interview ever done by anyone ever. Just when you think you've heard his best quote he smashes out another one. Fucking fantastic.

Or, he's trolling everyone in some sort of Joaquin Phoenix thing.

[checkyourprez]

For serious though, I think he has some problems but honestly who doesn't.

I really think he's just fucking with everyone. Like he's just being rediculous on purpose and people are taking him serious and getting all flabberghasted and he's enjoying the reactions from people.

[DIGI]

He called in to Howard Stern yesterday. I couldn't care less about Charlie Sheen or his show, but he sounded coherent and made a lot of sense. He said his producer has 2 other shows, got bored with Two and a Half Men, and the only way to get out is to display Charlie's private life as the scapegoat. He said he's always at work on time, has a list of people from the show to testify on his behalf, and there's no morality clause in his contract. So, he pretty much said "Fuck you, take me to court."

This is way better than that show ever could be.

[NicRN77]

watched the 20/20 interview last night just to see what all this hoopla was about. He seems like someone who is mentally ill. Just another train wreck. Let's move along now.

[Kid Presentable]

It's fantastic; both amazing and shit all at the same time.

[abbott]

last time I saw this guy was watching wall street 2, and I thought then... wow he is looking bad.

however, I think the guy is just working on a new character for some new up and coming part

the guy will always be an A lister and will never be without friends or money. He might get down to his last 2 mill. but I doubt it.

[M|X|Y]

charlie sheen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG1ZK_dUIeY

charlie sheen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etCg48Tzj_s

:eek:

[Schmeltz]

Or, he's trolling everyone in some sort of Joaquin Phoenix thing.

I really think he's just fucking with everyone. Like he's just being rediculous on purpose

It was actually tough to rule out the very real possibility that it's all just a big, brilliant publicity stunt... until I read just now that he's lost custody of his children by court order. I guess it would be funny if Sheen was only hurting himself, but his family have to pay for his antics too.

This guy isn't a hero, he's a loser. It's pathetic.

[Echewta]

I'd cuddle up with Bree Olson.

[checkyourprez]

It was actually tough to rule out the very real possibility that it's all just a big, brilliant publicity stunt... until I read just now that he's lost custody of his children by court order. I guess it would be funny if Sheen was only hurting himself, but his family have to pay for his antics too.

This guy isn't a hero, he's a loser. It's pathetic.

dont get so butthurt over charlie sheens awesomeness bro.

look michael jackson some how got to keep his kids what does that really say about our child welfare system.

[JoLovesMCA]

Twitter user for ONE DAY, and already 500k followers.. WOW, I think he may have broke Conan's record...

http://twitter.com/CharlieSheen

I must admit I started following him today. I couldn't help it his tweets were too funny. I was surprised so many people were on his side. I thought he'd get more hate remarks. I know he needs help but at the same time I love the way he's mocking the media. They deserve it, but the fact that he's put so many people out of a job and hasn't apologized isn't cool.

[saz]

but at the same time I love the way he's mocking the media. They deserve it

they certainly do, considering how much coverage they're devoting to this trivial crap.

[Schmeltz]

dont get so butthurt over charlie sheens awesomeness bro.

So losing your (third) wife, your job, and your kids because of your drug habit is awesome now?

Are you this smart in real life, bro?

[nodanaonlyzuul]

Have you never seen any other checkyourprez opinions before? It's best just to ignore.

[checkyourprez]

So losing your (third) wife, your job, and your kids because of your drug habit is awesome now?

Are you this smart in real life, bro?


i rule in real life. just like charlie sheen. but not quite as much. i admit when im beat.


over a million twitter followers in a day.


yo dont act like your all high and mighty like the divorce rate isnt at 50% in this country and people dont do drugs and lose there kids. it happens.

[checkyourprez]

So losing your (third) wife, your job, and your kids because of your drug habit is awesome now?

Are you this smart in real life, bro?



and here you go mr.bible thumper, charlies latest tweet...

"Pardon my absence.... My first concern is my kids... Back soon..!"

[Dorothy Wood]

gotta say, I'm kinda on board with what cyp's saying in this thread.

partially because I've always loved Charlie Sheen, maybe.

He is a total sleaze bag, but he's not denying that. He's rich and he loves partying and having sex with fit women who love partying and money. It's a tale as old as time; they want to put this one on t.v. constantly because our country is filled with puritans, just foaming at the mouth at the hint of anything salacious.

He's playing all of us, and it's pretty awesome.

[Schmeltz]

He is a total sleaze bag, but he's not denying that.

This is what I do not understand, is this ridiculous mindset people seem to carry around with them. This is the kind of thinking that got George W. Bush two terms as the most powerful man in the world. Saying "Sure, Charlie Sheen lost his job and wife and kids to a drug habit, but he has a Twitter account and I respect that!" is really no different from saying "Sure, George Bush botched Katrina, bankrupted the country, and started an illegal and horrifically destructive war - but he refuses to admit his mistakes, and I respect that!"

I simply do not understand why refusing to accept your worthlessness makes it OK to be worthless. I do not understand why this kind of blockheaded idiocy earns you adulation in America. Why does being so stupid that you can't see how stupid you are earn you props? What the fuck? I don't have any beef with Charlie Sheen, really, the guy's a train wreck crying out for help and either he'll get it or he won't. It's the people making excuses for him who are really unforgivable.

I would expect this kind of douchebaggery from a collar-popping jackass like cyp, but Dorothy and mikizee, you should know better. You're smarter than this.

[tejana]

the guy is MANIC, has a huge ego, that's no reason to respect him.

if he was in a depressive cycle, people would shun him.

put him behind the wheel of a car, and he will be dead. he is a fatal accident waiting to happen.

[tejana]

For me, it's so obvious that he's (Charlie) SPEEDING in some way- on drugs or mental illness. I wasn't fooled by Joaquin Phoenix, although his weird family made me...wonder for a while.

The man is wacked!

[Dorothy Wood]

This is what I do not understand, is this ridiculous mindset people seem to carry around with them. This is the kind of thinking that got George W. Bush two terms as the most powerful man in the world. Saying "Sure, Charlie Sheen lost his job and wife and kids to a drug habit, but he has a Twitter account and I respect that!" is really no different from saying "Sure, George Bush botched Katrina, bankrupted the country, and started an illegal and horrifically destructive war - but he refuses to admit his mistakes, and I respect that!"

I simply do not understand why refusing to accept your worthlessness makes it OK to be worthless. I do not understand why this kind of blockheaded idiocy earns you adulation in America. Why does being so stupid that you can't see how stupid you are earn you props? What the fuck? I don't have any beef with Charlie Sheen, really, the guy's a train wreck crying out for help and either he'll get it or he won't. It's the people making excuses for him who are really unforgivable.

I would expect this kind of douchebaggery from a collar-popping jackass like cyp, but Dorothy and mikizee, you should know better. You're smarter than this.


Don't get me wrong, Charlie Sheen shouldn't be president and he's not wise. He's a weirdo, and I guess that's what I'm applauding. He's ruffling people's feathers. The fact of the matter is, Two and a Half Men is super popular, and it's a show that's basically about him partying and sleeping with chicks. So, then he takes it too far in real life and all of a sudden he's fired and a terrible person? It's a double standard. He can't be judged for something he's been praised for for 20 years or more.

He is right about some of the things he's saying, people are jealous of his life. some people do want to party and sleep with a ton of chicks and have an awesome house and a bunch of money, you can't deny that...t.v. and movies try to sell that life to us every day!

He probably will cause some pain for his friends and family, but children of crazy people sometimes turn out really awesome.

[Schmeltz]

So, then he takes it too far in real life and all of a sudden he's fired and a terrible person? It's a double standard.

Yes, taking drug and alcohol use too far in "real life", which is the only life there is, costs you your job. And in this case your family and your health. No double standard there: it's what happens. Why should Charlie Sheen get a pass for shit that would get anyone else fired? If they'd kept paying him to give them drug-fuelled shit, that would be a double standard. Be honest: if you had this asshole's track record and demanded your boss gave you a raise for it, what would you get?

people are jealous of his life. some people do want to party and sleep with a ton of chicks and have an awesome house and a bunch of money

The corollary to this is that some people do want court orders that remove their children from their custody, and people do want three failed marriages, and people do want to be charged with domestic abuse, and people do want to go to the hospital because their substance abuse almost kills them. I find it hard to envy any of those things, but maybe that's just me.

This guy is not some eccentric weirdo providing profound commentary on the state of society. He is a drug- and wife-abusing cunt and anyone else pulling this shit would be in jail or dead by now. Seeing people stand up and applaud this kind of crap is sickening.

[venusvenus123]

Yes, taking drug and alcohol use too far in "real life", which is the only life there is, costs you your job. And in this case your family and your health. No double standard there: it's what happens. Why should Charlie Sheen get a pass for shit that would get anyone else fired? If they'd kept paying him to give them drug-fuelled shit, that would be a double standard. Be honest: if you had this asshole's track record and demanded your boss gave you a raise for it, what would you get?
But he hardly lives in the real world; he lives in Hollywood. And Hollywood doesn't play by those standards. Look at Robert Downey Jr--as long as he was making the studios lots of money, they kept him on.

I'm not defending his allegedly violent behaviour. I'm one of his 1.1 m followers on Twitter because I think he's anti-establishment and I'm interested to see where he ends up. I find him entertaining at the moment. But I think a lot of people are laughing at him and not with him. I might be one of them; I'm not sure yet.

I hope he doesn't go too far off the rails.

#WINNING #TIGERBLOOD

[Dorothy Wood]

Schmeltz. I'm sorry you're upset. I don't believe Charlie Sheen is a role model. It's just that what he's doing is not like the worst thing in the world is all.

I said he reminded me of my dad, and that's true. I haven't spoken to my father in years, we've been estranged for at least 10 years, and about 8 years previous to that. I know that he's 67 and still partying, and last I found out, he was seeing some chick my age.

Gross, yes, but I mean, whatever, he hasn't changed in all these years...he just shoulda never gotten married. Some people just can't be contained by society's rules...sounds dumb, but it's true. Not everyone needs to be on meds, some people are just extreme. My dad sucks, but he gave me life, and I don't need him around to be happy...so it's not really that big of a deal that he's not in my life. My mom and I have moved on.


Anyway, Charlie Sheen's "character" made the creators of his show into millionaires. his hard-partying and womanizing ways were his bread and butter until they weren't anymore. You can't reward a man with wealth and adoration because he's a "bad boy", then get upset when he's a bad boy.

(not saying you or I did any rewarding, but the show is/was very popular for some reason...personally I think it's awful.)

Men everywhere idolize Scarface for some reason too, and that guy sucked total ass. and he wasn't even real! at least Charlie Sheen is somewhat funny and doesn't murder people (that we know of).

[checkyourprez]

This is what I do not understand, is this ridiculous mindset people seem to carry around with them. This is the kind of thinking that got George W. Bush two terms as the most powerful man in the world. Saying "Sure, Charlie Sheen lost his job and wife and kids to a drug habit, but he has a Twitter account and I respect that!" is really no different from saying "Sure, George Bush botched Katrina, bankrupted the country, and started an illegal and horrifically destructive war - but he refuses to admit his mistakes, and I respect that!"

I simply do not understand why refusing to accept your worthlessness makes it OK to be worthless. I do not understand why this kind of blockheaded idiocy earns you adulation in America. Why does being so stupid that you can't see how stupid you are earn you props? What the fuck? I don't have any beef with Charlie Sheen, really, the guy's a train wreck crying out for help and either he'll get it or he won't. It's the people making excuses for him who are really unforgivable.

I would expect this kind of douchebaggery from a collar-popping jackass like cyp, but Dorothy and mikizee, you should know better. You're smarter than this.

easy Chachi, i havent popped my collar in years.


if anything in this world i am offended by BYU kicking a player off its basketball team for banging his girlfriend. that makes me sick.


charlie sheen is just livin the dream. his dream. so that doesnt bother me.

[NicRN77]

THIS (http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/charlie-sheen-winning-for-men-3211/1308280/) was pretty hilarious last night on Jimmy Fallon.

[Echewta]

Wow, some folks are taking Sheen way to seriously. He's not in any position of power except where he may be spending his money.

[M|X|Y]

although his situation is unfortunate, charlie is right.

like dorothy said, cbs knew exactly what they were getting into when they hired him.. they banked on that. I don't believe that employers should have the right to be involved in your private life in ANY way and so long as you do your job you should be free to live your life however you like. i want him to WIN just for that.

he shouldnt really be a role model to anyone, but just being on a huge show makes you one whether you like it or not. you don't get to chose to be a role model, other people do. it all depends how you want to look at it though. if i had kids, he'd be a good role model to show that wealth does not equal success, that living an empty life has consequences and that drugs suck.

I am amused by the whole thing, hope dude gets better but its looking grim

[Whatitis]

I don't believe that employers should have the right to be involved in your private life in ANY way and so long as you do your job you should be free to live your life however you like.

To a point, yes but having a job that's in the public eye has much more scrutiny that comes along with it to you and more importantly your bosses. I support Sheen in most of this but also believe his actions have affected his, and his co-workers, job.

[mikizee]

I would expect this kind of douchebaggery from a collar-popping jackass like cyp, but Dorothy and mikizee, you should know better. You're smarter than this.

Aw c'mon man don't get all Frank Grimes on us.

Clearly the guy isn't a person to be put up on a pedestal or thought of as a good human being or anything like that. Does he need help? Probably. Is he deluded? Probably. Is he a selfish dickhead? Definitely. Is he a fit father? Yeeaaah probably not. But his interview on Piers Morgan was quite good at times, and he did raise a few decent points and came across as reasonably intelligent and sane at times as well. But as you (and Charlie) say, the scoreboard doesn't lie, and his scoreboard isn't looking too rosy and I can't see his new found soberness lasting that long.

But at the end of the day I'm just happy to be entertained by his unorthodox antics and quotes in an otherwise and depressing news cycle. Some of the quotes coming out of his mouth... wow.

But I can only imagine at how big his already biblically massive ego would have grown in the last two days with gaining a record million followers in 2 days.

You never know, maybe he is onto something with all this tigerblood and adonis DNA and 'can't is the cancer of happen' motivational talk. He could be the next Anthony Robbins!!! Can't wait to see THAT infomercial.

[MCMel]

Charlie Sheen has been my favorite actor for yrs & it's been a while since I've really kept up with him I have always simply wanted to see him happy & healthy & respected for his remarkale charisma he brings to his onscreen performances. That said I am truly scared for him & believe he needs hardcore intervention before he loses everything very possibly his life-I'm pulling for him always but right now so many seem to think this is a big joke & Charlie himself seems very much in denial: he's not acting right now folks he's crumbling to a new level before our eyes; again it's scary.:(

[yeahwho]

I've been in AA a few years and I would just like to preface the following with this... for those who understand, I'm not a "Big Book Nazi" or a "Work the Steps" type of guy.

I know Sheen spent a lot of time around the program, perhaps even had some sobriety for a spell. The one interview where he pulled out a big book and quoted a passage about "acceptance" aimed at his producer (who I'm assuming is in AA too) was something I've seen a few times before... especially by people who refuse to grasp the depth of their own fucked up addiction. It's a hypocritical action not unlike bible thumping.

Anyway, the reason I bring it up is because the sanctimonious self justification behind that sort of shit is amazing. I've seen this before several times and it turns out bad... really bad. He actually thinks the ideals and the theme of AA are some sort of strict program. That is bullshit he actually believes and spouts. I'm here to tell you the only rules in AA is there are no rules or regulations. It's total fucking anarchy.

The whole "Winning" line means absolutely nothing, how he rolls isn't shit. I've been down that road further than he, trust me. Money doesn't buy the capability to do huge amounts of drugs and alcohol, that is a learned behavior I became skilled at in 7th grade. He says he partied harder than Keith Richards? LMAO.

I hope he can make it, I hope the right people get into his heart, head and soul. A little humility and forgiveness makes the man. He is the complete opposite of me, I may not be a perfect human being but I always do the AA first step, with other drunks and assorted fuck ups We admitted we were powerless over alcohol and Drugs—that our lives had become unmanageable.

[MCMel]

I feel bad for him. I mean at first I thought he was just being a diva but no he needs some serious help. I don't know if Dr. Drew is worried about him then it's not good!

I agree. Dr. Drew does not make statements like that lightly.

[Turchinator]

Clearly I have defeated this earthworm with my words,imagine what I would have done with my fire breathing fists...

[Lyman Zerga]

i hate sheen and looking at his shins and two and a half men is two and a half shits worth, if anything

[yeahwho]

Yeah that show, 2 1/2 men, I don't get it, it's all cheap fart jokes and genital humor. I'm pretty much all filled up to the max with that style of humor, enough to make a dozen or so more seasons for CBS if they need it.

It'll be the same premise just edgier and called 2 1/2 cocks.

[Kid Presentable]

The (unintentional) genius of Sheen of late was his ability to skate by, not even acting (shit, not even working), and get paid shitloads for a sitcom that isn't even that bad (lighten up, no it's not genius but Christ in the garbage heap it's nearer the top than the bottom).

Now it's his ability to garner an absurd amount of media attention by being an unmitigated fuckhead. The guy is being himself, and you're free to judge, ignore or praise or whatever. I certainly don't think he's worthy of praise outright, but this degree of not giving a fuck is reasonably entertaining in a sea of vacuous gushing arse-lickers.

The nature of celebrity has been through some interesting times lately. I don't think it follows that one can find this Sheenamania intriguing and therefore be giving him props for being a loser. It's an observable phenomenom; a new "high art". Nothing more (yes high art was meant to be a pun :o)

That said, a friend put me onto this interesting article: this interesting article (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/business/media/28carr.html?_r=1&src=busln)

[kaiser soze]

looks like people will continue to enable him

yes he needs help, but it's obvious he's an asshole

[mathcart]

for me best part of this is that now the new yorker cartoons are funny (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/charlie-sheen-quotes-as-new-yorker-cartoons)!
(y)

[venusvenus123]

live the sheen dream (http://www.livethesheendream.com/)

[Schmeltz]

That said, a friend put me onto this interesting article: this interesting article (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/business/media/28carr.html?_r=1&src=busln)


Mr. Sheen was charged with a felony for an incident on Christmas Day in 2009 in which he threatened to kill his wife, Brooke Mueller, while holding a knife to her throat. According to the police report, Mr. Sheen “started to strangle Mueller then he pulled out a knife he always carries on his person and held the knife to Mueller’s neck and threatened, ‘You better be in fear. If you tell anybody I’ll kill you.’ ”

Wow, how trailblazing and eccentric. What a real guy. Isn't this hilarious. We need more people to be real like him.

[saz]

I do not understand why this kind of blockheaded idiocy earns you adulation in America. Why does being so stupid that you can't see how stupid you are earn you props? What the fuck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys3MsKMpms

[checkyourprez]

Wow, how trailblazing and eccentric. What a real guy. Isn't this hilarious. We need more people to be real like him.

ya and its some big surprise that he suddenly springs on these woman. aww the poor victims. news flash, how bout you don't get involved in a relationship with charlie sheen.

why dont you questions these woman instead of getting your panties in a bunch for how this guy acts?

[Kid Presentable]

We need more people to be real like him.

Heaps are.

[Dorothy Wood]

Wow, how trailblazing and eccentric. What a real guy. Isn't this hilarious. We need more people to be real like him.

hmm, well I guess I didn't realize he had been abusive to that extent. that makes me change my tune. there's a good nytimes op ed i just read (can't really link it, as i'm mobile webbin at the moment) about his history. he accidentally shot kelly preston in 1990 when they were engaged, what?!

no wonder he thinks he has tiger blood, he's been getting away with everything and anything for so long, and his paychecks just increase.

anyway, the point of the op ed was to show how his abuse of women was largely ignored, or marginalized because of the types of women he was involved with. i admit, I felt the same way, like "well, they're just trash". but...they're human beings, and I'm ashamed of myself for forgetting.

ya and its some big surprise that he suddenly springs on these woman. aww the poor victims. news flash, how bout you don't get involved in a relationship with charlie sheen.

why dont you questions these woman instead of getting your panties in a bunch for how this guy acts?

while the women know to some extent that they are entering into a dangerous situation doesn't mean they deserve abuse. he preys on women who are damaged, women he can charm and dominate. which is wrong. he's a sociopath. I guarantee you that he starts out sweet and loving, then slowly grooms women to accept small insults, until one day he "explodes", then apologizes, they accept and then he gets actually violent. it's fuckin text book.
gah...I don't know what to think now. I feel gross for defending him and having a sort of affection for him...because he's practically exactly like my dad. a super rich version

[checkyourprez]

hmm, well I guess I didn't realize he had been abusive to that extent. that makes me change my tune. there's a good nytimes op ed i just read (can't really link it, as i'm mobile webbin at the moment) about his history. he accidentally shot kelly preston in 1990 when they were engaged, what?!

no wonder he thinks he has tiger blood, he's been getting away with everything and anything for so long, and his paychecks just increase.

anyway, the point of the op ed was to show how his abuse of women was largely ignored, or marginalized because of the types of women he was involved with. i admit, I felt the same way, like "well, they're just trash". but...they're human beings, and I'm ashamed of myself for forgetting.



while the women know to some extent that they are entering into a dangerous situation doesn't mean they deserve abuse. he preys on women who are damaged, women he can charm and dominate. which is wrong. he's a sociopath. I guarantee you that he starts out sweet and loving, then slowly grooms women to accept small insults, until one day he "explodes", then apologizes, they accept and then he gets actually violent. it's fuckin text book.
gah...I don't know what to think now. I feel gross for defending him and having a sort of affection for him...because he's practically exactly like my dad. a super rich version


certainly not. but life is survival of the fittest. and the tiger usually comes out on top.

[Lex Diamonds]

gah...I don't know what to think now. I feel gross for defending him and having a sort of affection for him...because he's practically exactly like my dad. a super rich version
Yeah a guy called Sigmund called this like centuries ago.

[venusvenus123]

ya and its some big surprise that he suddenly springs on these woman. aww the poor victims. news flash, how bout you don't get involved in a relationship with charlie sheen.

why dont you questions these woman instead of getting your panties in a bunch for how this guy acts?
yeah why don't we? the world would definitely be a better place if we all "thought" like you.


I reckon charlie will be dead by Christmas. And we probably won't be talking about him for much longer. I caught a bit of two and a half men the other evening. What a steaming pile of shit that show is.

[DIGI]

Maher spent his entire monlogue shitting on him. I love that man.

"Normal brains can't process me? No, you play Uncle Sleazy on Bringing Up Chunky."

[Dorothy Wood]

Yeah a guy called Sigmund called this like centuries ago.

I didn't mean sexual affection.
mainly I mean, sometimes I forget what a dick my dad is because he's also a bad ass. and I did the same thing concerning Charlie Sheen.

I did say he was playing all of us though.

[Lex Diamonds]

sometimes I forget what a dick my dad is
Mmhmm.

[Dorothy Wood]

:eek:

:mad:

:(

[checkyourprez]

yeah why don't we? the world would definitely be a better place if we all "thought" like you.


I reckon charlie will be dead by Christmas. And we probably won't be talking about him for much longer. I caught a bit of two and a half men the other evening. What a steaming pile of shit that show is.

defiantly.

[Schmeltz]

ya and its some big surprise that he suddenly springs on these woman. aww the poor victims. news flash, how bout you don't get involved in a relationship with charlie sheen.

why dont you questions these woman instead of getting your panties in a bunch for how this guy acts?

Yeah, so I knew you were kind of a dumbass, but I certainly didn't think you had it in you to blame the victims of domestic abuse for their situations. You are lower than a piece of shit. I hope you die in a car fire.

[venusvenus123]

defiantly :rolleyes:

[Bob]

i argue

[taquitos]

iArgue

[checkyourprez]

Yeah, so I knew you were kind of a dumbass, but I certainly didn't think you had it in you to blame the victims of domestic abuse for their situations. You are lower than a piece of shit. I hope you die in a car fire.

ya just like its the serial killers fault when woman write to them wanting to marry them and shit. okaaaaay buddy.


dont hate bc you aint...charlie sheen.

[Lex Diamonds]

He's right you know, serial killers are actually totally rad and awesome guys. Don't hate on them.

[checkyourprez]

He's right you know, serial killers are actually totally rad and awesome guys. Don't hate on them.

paddy boy weak attempt at humor.


serial killers suck. but the point is everyone is responsible for their own actions. i wouldnt blame charlie sheen for beating them down any more then them for being with him.


its like going to the grimiest poorest part of your city decked out in gold and diamonds and being shocked and upset when you got robbed.

[Schmeltz]

but the point is everyone is responsible for their own actions.


Then why are you blaming the victims of domestic abuse for the actions of their abusers? You are saying these women are responsible for what somebody else does. You are an absolute mortal fuckwit.


i wouldnt blame charlie sheen for beating them down


Seriously, you are worse than garbage. You must be just too fucking stupid for shame to apply to you. Sickening. I'm done wasting time with you, you are absolutely not worth conversing with or even acknowledging. I hope you never have the opportunity to show some poor woman exactly what she's responsible for. Fuck off.

[checkyourprez]

Then why are you blaming the victims of domestic abuse for the actions of their abusers? You are saying these women are responsible for what somebody else does. You are an absolute mortal fuckwit.



Seriously, you are worse than garbage. You must be just too fucking stupid for shame to apply to you. Sickening. I'm done wasting time with you, you are absolutely not worth conversing with or even acknowledging. I hope you never have the opportunity to show some poor woman exactly what she's responsible for. Fuck off.

sounds like you have been the victim of some domestic abuse. im sorry to hear that. but what you need to do is get yourself out of that situation and stop blaming charlie sheen. because he keeps winning while you keep bitching.

[Kid Presentable]

Jesus Christ this exchange is more than making up for the weak undercard

[checkyourprez]

Then why are you blaming the victims of domestic abuse for the actions of their abusers? You are saying these women are responsible for what somebody else does. You are an absolute mortal fuckwit.



Seriously, you are worse than garbage. You must be just too fucking stupid for shame to apply to you. Sickening. I'm done wasting time with you, you are absolutely not worth conversing with or even acknowledging. I hope you never have the opportunity to show some poor woman exactly what she's responsible for. Fuck off.

paddy boy weak attempt at humor.


serial killers suck. but the point is everyone is responsible for their own actions. i wouldnt blame charlie sheen for beating them down any more then them for being with him.


its like going to the grimiest poorest part of your city decked out in gold and diamonds and being shocked and upset when you got robbed.



its obvious your panties are bunched quite high and tight, possibly restricting blood flow to the brain which may be affecting your reading. let me elaborate.


i blame the woman for being with a man who has a clear track record of abusing woman and clearly holds them in low regard.

i dont praise sheen for woman beating. its obviously fucked and shows there is something wrong with him that his brain can't fix, unlike his addictions. (i will alert you to my sarcasm here because i think you may be devoid at picking up on such things.)

however..

nor do i praise dumb woman for being with a man who is a proven wife beater. if anything these woman are more pathetic than him for choosing to be with someone like him.


do you comprehend? or are you still too busy spewing vulgarities like a child?

[checkyourprez]

Jesus Christ this exchange is more than making up for the weak undercard

life is all about good banter KP.

[Turchinator]

I will destroy you in the air and deploy my ordnance to the ground.

[Dorothy Wood]

its obvious your panties are bunched quite high and tight, possibly restricting blood flow to the brain which may be affecting your reading. let me elaborate.


i blame the woman for being with a man who has a clear track record of abusing woman and clearly holds them in low regard.

i dont praise sheen for woman beating. its obviously fucked and shows there is something wrong with him that his brain can't fix, unlike his addictions. (i will alert you to my sarcasm here because i think you may be devoid at picking up on such things.)

however..

nor do i praise dumb woman for being with a man who is a proven wife beater. if anything these woman are more pathetic than him for choosing to be with someone like him.


do you comprehend? or are you still too busy spewing vulgarities like a child?


Dude, it's more complicated than that. It's easy to sit back and judge women for seeking out a dangerous partner, but what most likely really happened is that the man acts like the new lady is the most precious thing ever and "not like the rest" and "special". and he can say these things to a woman and manipulate her into accepting those lines. Then he'll keep pushing, maybe degrade her a bit, then apologize...blame it on the booze maybe, then get all sweet again. Until the next time. and then the next time, until she accepts the abuse so often and forgives so readily, that he thinks he can do anything to her without getting in trouble. And then, she's pregnant, or has already given birth to a child, so she's kinda trapped...and the abuse continues or even gets worse.

Are these women weak? yes, and they would probably admit that they were, after leaving/escaping. Is it disgusting that some women will abandon all logic to date or marry a rich man...or any man for that matter? yes. But it keeps happening.

I think revealing the total Charlie Sheen is really important, to serve as a warning. Everyone keeps saying he's going to destroy himself, people want him to flame out in spectacular fashion so he can be punished and show everyone that you just can't live like that...but the fact is, he might be okay. He might just keep on dating porn stars until he's an old old man, because he has money. and even when most of the money's gone, he'll still have celebrity. He might die a lonely man, or he might not.

His personality and behavior is not unique in our society, it's just inflated and being played out in front of us because of the nature of our media today. I think the most important question here is not "why is Charlie Sheen the way he is?", but "What is going on with society that women would even put up with a man like Charlie Sheen?"

I will never understand why men like him get married, or why they must prey on weak women and draw them into relationships. Why can't they just fuck around with women who have the same priorities he does? Like, some chicks that just like partying and doing it? why bother having "girlfriends" or "goddesses" anyway? I think, ultimately, it's because he's weak.

[Schmeltz]

I think the most important question here is not "why is Charlie Sheen the way he is?", but "What is going on with society that women would even put up with a man like Charlie Sheen?"

What's going on is that ignorant pieces of trash like cyp here continue to enable and empower abusers like Charlie Sheen by assigning blame and responsibility to their victims. Somehow there are still people out there who think the recipients of domestic abuse deserve what they get or are to blame for being preyed on, and the casual manner in which they shrug off this predation leads to me believe that these enablers harbour some of those same destructive instincts themselves. If everyone had the guts to call this behaviour out for what it is, the incidence of its recurrence would probably drop. But shallow, weak-minded, incredulous individuals continue to buy into the "bad boy" image and tout it as some kind of funny social ideal, glossing over the predatory, inhuman reality in favour of mass-market insubstantiality, ultimately in order to justify to themselves their own twisted power fantasies.

Seriously cyp, just admit it: you'd smack a girl around until she was black and blue if you thought she deserved it. Wouldn't you? Isn't that what you're implying? That it's OK to beat a woman because she should know that a man might decide to beat her if the mood's on him? Battered women have nobody to blame but themselves, isn't that what you're saying?

See, there will always be douchebags like Charlie Sheen, so long as there's douchebags like cyp to pat them on the ass and hype them up as heros for giving women what they're asking for. Props to you for using your head here, Dorothy, I knew you were smarter than that.

(Confidential to cyp: Kill yourself. Seriously. Do it.)

[Dorothy Wood]

Schmeltz, I'm not sure your attitude toward cyp helps.

Victims shouldn't be blamed, but they do bear a certain amount of responsibility in today's society. The problem is not limited to the abuser or the abuser's enablers. Charlie Sheen is right, people are judging his moral character, but they sure supported it before enough to make him super rich.

There is a chunk of the population that thinks banging strippers and getting super wasted all the time is awesome. But why? because some people are pathetic, uncreative, and lazy. Millions of fat lazy dorks are sitting around the country consuming media that tells them that the ultimate happy life involves having a gorgeous sex-hungry woman serve you. And women are constantly striving to be that woman, through diets, surgery, clothing, tanning, high heeled shoes, and makeup. Being "sexy" means the woman is empowered...right....It's all a shit storm that's linked to blind consumerism and greed, or selfishness. And almost everyone is guilty of playing a part.

Charlie Sheen isn't happy, I mean, does he look happy? dude is full of anger, obviously.

There are plenty of people in the world who are just normal, and love each other based on their personalities and shared interests. Once people realize that the key to happiness can't be bought, and that being the king of the mountain is overrated, the world will be better...maybe 1000 years from now, if the planet lasts that long.

[checkyourprez]

What's going on is that ignorant pieces of trash like cyp here continue to enable and empower abusers like Charlie Sheen by assigning blame and responsibility to their victims. Somehow there are still people out there who think the recipients of domestic abuse deserve what they get or are to blame for being preyed on, and the casual manner in which they shrug off this predation leads to me believe that these enablers harbour some of those same destructive instincts themselves. If everyone had the guts to call this behaviour out for what it is, the incidence of its recurrence would probably drop. But shallow, weak-minded, incredulous individuals continue to buy into the "bad boy" image and tout it as some kind of funny social ideal, glossing over the predatory, inhuman reality in favour of mass-market insubstantiality, ultimately in order to justify to themselves their own twisted power fantasies.

Seriously cyp, just admit it: you'd smack a girl around until she was black and blue if you thought she deserved it. Wouldn't you? Isn't that what you're implying? That it's OK to beat a woman because she should know that a man might decide to beat her if the mood's on him? Battered women have nobody to blame but themselves, isn't that what you're saying?

See, there will always be douchebags like Charlie Sheen, so long as there's douchebags like cyp to pat them on the ass and hype them up as heros for giving women what they're asking for. Props to you for using your head here, Dorothy, I knew you were smarter than that.

(Confidential to cyp: Kill yourself. Seriously. Do it.)

first of all i thought you were done addressing me. apparently you are a liar.


second of all. awww poor weak woman, they cant take care of themselves. they need schmeltz to do it for them. grow up nerd. this is 2011. if woman want to vote and have jobs and all that other good stuff then be able to stand up for yourself.

its this weak minded thinking "oooo we need to feel sorry for everyone" that is whats bs. lots of people have shit they go through in their lives. and a lot of people start off born into worse positions then some dumb chick who chooses to be with a guy like charlie sheen who has a proven track record of abusing woman.

i dont hear you crying for everyone else out there who are in some disadvantageous position.


look haus, im sorry your boyfriend beats you. why you dont leave him boggles my mind. hopefully one day you can find the strength to do it.

[TurdBerglar]

but what most likely really happened is that the man acts like the new lady is the most precious thing ever and "not like the rest" and "special". and he can say these things to a woman and manipulate her into accepting those lines.

i can't stand females that want to hear that bullshit. if anyone is buffing your ego to that degree, making you seem like you're the best thing ever then that person is probably a fucking dirtbag. no respectful/strong person thinks that about someone in reality. if someone is saying that shit to you, 99 times out of a 100 that fucking person is a manipulative dirt bag. but there's a shitload of females that think hearing that bullshit is important so it makes it extremely easy for them to be manipulated. i don't feel sorry at all.

[Planetary]

schmeltz what are you hoping to achieve by ranting about prez's comments? it's boring and predictable. he's obviously just winding you up.

edit: just seen the "kill yourself" bit. you're an idiot.

[Lex Diamonds]

edit: just seen the "kill yourself" bit. you're an idiot.
Yep.

[Echewta]

Ahh, now this is a thread. :cool:;):)

[Audio.]

so no more memes? :confused:

[checkyourprez]

so no more memes? :confused:

***A meme, a relatively newly coined term, identifies ideas or beliefs that are transmitted from one person or group of people to another. The concept comes from an analogy: as genes transmit biological information, memes can be said to transmit idea and belief information.

A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas symbols or practices, which can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals or other imitable phenomena. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes, in that they self-replicate, mutate and respond to selective pressures.



well look at that, you learn something new everyday.

[Turchinator]

defeat is not an option

[venusvenus123]

Charlie's hiring an intern full of #TIGERBLOOD

CYP, this is an amazing opportunity for you ... and anyone else!

All you have to do is tell him why you're #WINNING (http://cs.internships.com/charlie-sheen-internship/?adly_id=1373351728).

[Schmeltz]

schmeltz what are you hoping to achieve by ranting about prez's comments? it's boring and predictable. he's obviously just winding you up.

I actually took BA01's very sound advice and put him on ignore after my last post on page 3. So whatever he's going on about now, he's only winding himself up.

Look, it's true that I've gone overboard here, and I do regret it a little. Probably shouldn't drink so much Jameson 12 Year while I cruise the BBMB. Angries up the blood. But I'm not going to back down from opposing a point of view that glorifies insubstantiality and trivializes predatory, abusive behaviour. A line of thinking that puts the onus on victims of abuse to change their behaviour, as opposed to properly assigning blame to the perpetrators, is morally and logically bankrupt. The corollary to the idea that domestic abuse is a two-way street is that it would completely disappear if women would stop involving themselves with abusive men, but that's putting the cart before the horse and ignores the fact that abusive people seek out victims, they don't just let them drift into their orbit. In fact, domestic abuse would only disappear if its perpetrators woke up and stopped doing it. End of story. So it's time to stop making excuses for people like Charlie Sheen by blaming their victims for their perceived lack of self-actualization. This is an antiquated, regressive, frankly quite idiotic notion.

In fact, the notion that domestic abuse victims have only themselves to blame for their circumstances is kind of like blaming homeowners for arson - sure, someone else might have lit the fire, but the victim was living in a flammable house, so it's kind of their fault too, right? It's ridiculous, to the point that you have to wonder whether the people who support this thinking actually identify with abusers and seek to justify their behaviour. Which seems to be the case with Charlie Sheen - the pathetic, uncreative, and lazy people (to quote Dorothy, who is carrying this thread) who support his self-destruction are either too stupid to see him for what he is, or too stupid to care. Either way, they're too stupid.

It was wrong of me to overreact like I did, but a spade's still a spade, bullshit's still bullshit, and pretending that women are to blame for the actions of abusive men is some stinking, steaming, really nasty bullshit. Nothing wrong with calling it out for what it is. I'm a leave with a quote that encapsulates what I'm trying to say here:

We have now reached the point where every goon with a grievance, every bitter bigot, merely has to place the prefix, 'I know this is not politically correct, but...' in front of the usual string of insults in order to be not just safe from criticism, but actually a card, a lad, even a hero. Conversely ... to draw attention to the reality that discrimination and injustice are still facts of life, is to commit the sin of political correctness. Anti-PC has become the latest cover for creeps. It is a godsend for every curmudgeon and crank, from fascists to the merely smug.

Written in 1994, but quite clearly still true.

[Lex Diamonds]

Um...
schmeltz what are you hoping to achieve by ranting about prez's comments? it's boring and predictable. he's obviously just winding you up.

[NicRN77]

no surprise (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/07/warner-bros-fires-charlie-sheen/)

[TimDoolan]

A minor-league hockey team is sponsoring a "Charlie Sheen Night," featuring a collection of quirky promotions befitting the mercurial comic actor.

The Bakersfield, California, Condors of the East Coast Hockey League (East Coast?!) are offering these specials for their March 12 game against the Idaho Steelheads, straight from their website:

– Wear a fedora, or dress like any Charlie Sheen movie character and receive admission for two and a half bucks ($2.50).

– Bring a clean drug test and receive free admission.

– 2-for-1 Tiger Blood Icees and snow cones for the kids.

– The first 1,000 males will receive a Charlie Sheen face on a stick mask.

[TimDoolan]

Rants on about silly shirts

[checkyourprez]

A minor-league hockey team is sponsoring a "Charlie Sheen Night," featuring a collection of quirky promotions befitting the mercurial comic actor.

The Bakersfield, California, Condors of the East Coast Hockey League (East Coast?!) are offering these specials for their March 12 game against the Idaho Steelheads, straight from their website:

– Wear a fedora, or dress like any Charlie Sheen movie character and receive admission for two and a half bucks ($2.50).

– Bring a clean drug test and receive free admission.

– 2-for-1 Tiger Blood Icees and snow cones for the kids.

– The first 1,000 males will receive a Charlie Sheen face on a stick mask.


thats pretty awesome. id go for that.



id then go up to Shmeltz with my Charlie Sheen face on a stick mask and seduce them with kind words and classy pickup lines, upon earning their trust i would then beat them and call them worthless.

(y)

[Audio.]

lol I like the attention Charley Sheen has been receiving

[Turchinator]

This is very good news. They continue to be in breach, like so many whales.

It is a big day of gladness at the Sober Valley Lodge because now I can take all of their bazillions, never have to look at whatshiscock again and I never have to put on those silly shirts for as long as this warlock exists in the terrestrial dimension.

[Vic Colfari]

Charlie is looking for outstanding individuals, and the very qualities that define you could make Charlie Sheen even better. Charlie recognizes that what happens to your application after you submit it may seem mysterious. It need not be. As we build the talent, he seeks the most promising calendars in terms of intellectual distinction and professional taste.

[MC Moot]

It's pretty clear to me that Charlie and Randy Quaid should make another picture together,win,win... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092240/)...(lb)

[DIGI]

My coworker just showed me a picture of him. Jesus Christ. Did I miss it? Why isn't anyone talking about the fact that he's probably going to be dead within a few months.....if that. It's already like looking at a ghost.

[venusvenus123]

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13167959
:(

[Lyman Zerga]

atleast he eats pussy and probably even beats it too


in the newspaper i read that jesse katsopolis is going to replace charlie! wtf!

[A. Chimendez]

http://fffff.at/tinted-sheen/

[mikizee]

A friend of a friend whos well known on Australian radio flew all the way to the US on the chance he may get to interview Charlie. He did!

http://twitter.com/#!/scottdools

Now Charlie Sheen is only 3 degrees of separation away from me. How about that.

[venusvenus123]

Haha, yeah, I hear he's easy to get hold of.

Is he really small, or is your friend extremely tall???

Be interesting to see what your friend thinks of him. Is it a spoof or is he in the process of a public meltdown?

[Audio.]

So Gary is not the craziest fella in Hollywood anymore. (y) Its so bad even Busey praying for Sheen.

[NicRN77]

I'm kinda sick of hearing about Sheen....but this (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/bfb12aea47/charlie-sheen-s-winning-recipes?utm_campaign=newsletter20110310&utm_conten t=fv1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_t erm=fd) is pretty funny.

[BBboy20]

So when you become a source of spoofs only to star in a spoof yourself...what does that mean?

[checkyourprez]

after charlie sheens first show in detriot when he bombed the media was all over it.

however every subsequent show has seen people like it.



i hate how are media loves to see people fail. there were lots of stories about how bad it was and it was a train wreck and everything. now that he got a feel for how they should work and people are enjoying them the media doesn't say a word about it.

[Planetary]

He's really boring. annoyingly boring.

[checkyourprez]

He's really boring. annoyingly boring.

have you been to a show?

[Lyman Zerga]

He's really boring. annoyingly boring.

true

[ericg]

yall haters are fucking boring!
'Deal with that'!
Yeah Charlie's wildin' out about shit. But it keeps him going.
I don't blame him.