Invaders in the lab could mean anything at your age

[Kid Presentable]

Hi. You probably don't like me. I like you.

In this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl2jsVnKHeY) there are others in the studio. One of the others has a guitar, which sparked this (so far) epic thread.

What could it mean?

Innocent, inconsequential gathering of like-minded musicians, therefore nothing?

Collaborators for the next album?

Live musicians added to the tour config?

I like the idea of the second, could see some good things coming out of the third. And the second. Leaning toward the first. And the third.

[dave790]

i have a dream that a tour would be along the lines of the so what'cha want performance with the roots. give mix master a 'break'. that said i love the latter and his live influence.

good, and intriguing, find.

[Late-Night Lion]

I'm almost positive that two of those dudes (including the one with the guitar) are from the rock and roll band Phoenix.

[Kid Presentable]

Both excellent posts, and very true LL. Maybe it's just a visit.

Dave, if they chucked a full band in on it, I'm sure it would still have a very Beastie twist with MMM given a lead role. It does justify recording an album using, say, $Mark for parts that he needn't turn up in concert for. Oh hai do some Sabrosa please but we've got Long Burn teh fire covered lolz.

My overactive imagination takes me back to the time when Michael D said he only listens to the songs he has to learn for tour, and that the only songs he is listening to are from the new record. Meaning they could wish to perform only the new stuff with live backing? Maybe a half-and-half show with backing/without? Maybe (most likely) none of these things.

It seems a waste to pull the Boys away from the instruments altogether, but I can see why and honestly would quite enjoy the shock of it. If it were to happen. Which it probably isn't.

[Kid Presentable]

Video is removed, plot is thickening.

[Brother McDuff]

Video is removed, plot is thickening.


damn, missed it.

[Brother McDuff]

let's not forget that Oscilloscope has hosted non-beastie boys sessions as well in the past (i.e. MIA, Le Tigre, Bad Brains[?]). Perhaps Phillipe Zdar grew fond of the space over the course of the HSC mixing and enlisted it for some work with known collaborators Phoenix.

or not. who knows.

being that it is no longer available, were there any bboys in the said video?


note: if you haven't been to the Oscilloscope Labs site in a while it seems they have updated their design recently. alot more comprehensive now, I'd say.

[fonky pizza]

nothing surprising here, P.Zdar worked with the band Phoenix.

[Kid Presentable]

^ Well something had to connect them to Zdar. Is that what you mean?

Mcduff it was a clip of Adrock faffing about with a new moog device. When I say faffing, bear in mind that his faffing > my entire lifetime of achievement. Around the studio were various others.

[fonky pizza]

yeah I guess so, but I couldn't watch the video.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I like the tracks played with instruments but I hope they don't try to do everything with live musicians. I never understood why rappers continue to do this. 99 times out of 100, the live band playing "hip hop" beats ruins everything. LL Cool J unplugged was horrible. Jay Z on saturday night live, horrible. The Roots are the exception to the rule when it comes to live bands and hip hop. They are the only ones I've seen that can really pull it off and keep it sounding right.

Flute Loop is looped for a reason. It sounds better as a loop. Embrace the loops.

[Kid Presentable]

I like the tracks played with instruments but I hope they don't try to do everything with live musicians. I never understood why rappers continue to do this. 99 times out of 100, the live band playing "hip hop" beats ruins everything. LL Cool J unplugged was horrible. Jay Z on saturday night live, horrible. The Roots are the exception to the rule when it comes to live bands and hip hop. They are the only ones I've seen that can really pull it off and keep it sounding right.

Flute Loop is looped for a reason. It sounds better as a loop. Embrace the loops.

If it were happening (and let's be honest, there's no good reason at all to be optimistic about a tour just yet), I agree. A bit of balance. Hence the new songs only as a compromise might be good. Probably an easier point for me to make once I've heard the fucking thing...:o

[Micodin]

I like the tracks played with instruments but I hope they don't try to do everything with live musicians. I never understood why rappers continue to do this. 99 times out of 100, the live band playing "hip hop" beats ruins everything. LL Cool J unplugged was horrible. Jay Z on saturday night live, horrible. The Roots are the exception to the rule when it comes to live bands and hip hop. They are the only ones I've seen that can really pull it off and keep it sounding right.

Flute Loop is looped for a reason. It sounds better as a loop. Embrace the loops.

Truth!

[pshabi]

I like the tracks played with instruments but I hope they don't try to do everything with live musicians. I never understood why rappers continue to do this. 99 times out of 100, the live band playing "hip hop" beats ruins everything. LL Cool J unplugged was horrible. Jay Z on saturday night live, horrible. The Roots are the exception to the rule when it comes to live bands and hip hop. They are the only ones I've seen that can really pull it off and keep it sounding right.

Flute Loop is looped for a reason. It sounds better as a loop. Embrace the loops.

LL Cool J unplugged was horrible? That was one of the dopes moments in MTV history when he did Mama Said on there. Jay Z's last tour featured live instrumentation. I'd guess 85% of it was live and it was great. The percussion section was like 6 dudes deep.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

LL Cool J unplugged was horrible? That was one of the dopes moments in MTV history when he did Mama Said on there. Jay Z's last tour featured live instrumentation. I'd guess 85% of it was live and it was great. The percussion section was like 6 dudes deep.

Yeah, and it wasn't just the deodorant clumps either. I know MTV hyped it to hell but if you compare, for example, the drums in the live version to the funky drummer loop in the real track, there's just no comparison to the sound. The Sly sample "ah-ah-ah-ah" fits right in the pocket on the real track. It comes off weak in the unplugged version cause its live vocal, not a loop. I could go on and on. You've pretty much got key looped portions of music by monumental musicians in once case, and unlooped so-so musicians playing in the other. The best thing about LL Unplugged in that cut was actually LL, not the backing track.

Part of the draw of hip hop beats is the hypnosis and interplay you get with looping. Its mathematically precise. That sound is very very difficult to pull off live. Somehow the Roots do it. Usually the live muscians doing hip hop beats thing just sounds sloppy. They get these classically trained musicians who are good musicians but can't play well in the funk/soul style where the original samples were pulled from.

[Brother McDuff]

Mcduff it was a clip of Adrock faffing about with a new moog device.

oh. yeah, I saw that one. I just assume that was a plug for the slim phatty. as in they offered him a free one to let them film him screwing around with it for promotional reasons. i mean, it certainly appeared to be a promotional video.

99 times out of 100, the live band playing "hip hop" beats ruins everything. LL Cool J unplugged was horrible.

i agree, and the reason is fairly obvious to see, i think. if something was made on a sampler or drum machine, its not gonna sound like it did unless it's reproduced from such. its like if someone used 808 drum sounds to reproduce a live drum track, it just wouldn't sound the way it did when you fell in love with it. sure, it adds a new dynamic, but it's rarely a dynamic that represents the song well at all or even conveys a shred of the correct energy as the original.

yeah, the Ll Cool J unplugged was a joke. whoever chose to use an acoustic guitar along with Mama Said Knock You Out should have been fired.

[Kid Presentable]

I just assume that was a plug for the slim phatty. as in they offered him a free one to let them film him screwing around with it for promotional reasons. i mean, it certainly appeared to be a promotional video.



Well, yeah. But that's kind of beside the point, no? There were other musicians there, for whatever reason.

[Brother McDuff]

Well, yeah. But that's kind of beside the point, no? There were other musicians there, for whatever reason.

right on. i guess they seemed a bit, what's the word, spectator to me. but yeah, there certainly were quite a few gents there.

[Kid Presentable]

Someone had a guitar out. Like I said, it's probably nothing, but it certainly gets one thinking.