I wasnt around here when TT5B came out.. [Archive]

Guy Incognito

04-26-2011, 11:42 AM

Justin

04-26-2011, 11:55 AM

mathcart

04-26-2011, 12:04 PM

There was 6 years between HN and TT5B.....Everyone just wanted something new at that time and probably would have bought a blank cd if the beasties had their name on it.

Some people thought the Beasties actually "owed" us an album. People were pissed off. The message board was a scary place to be at that time.

Personally, I've had to go through multiple years of therapy in order to post here now.

It was a crazy time........it was a crazy time....

Agreed. Actually, as I remember it, it was BY FAR the most divisive this board has ever been as to the love it/ disappointed by it vibe. I remember really struggling with it myself, both my feelings about it and the crazy internet people yelling back and forth about the Beastie's letting all of humanity down, or whatever. For me, if I just look at TT5B & TMU as one release/era all my problems go away...

Was anarchy though, dogs and cats living together...

:rolleyes:

Luckily the new album is amazing and has something for heads that coveted a return to any (every) era. So its all good in the hood now and for the foreseeable futute!

So we have that going for us, which is nice...

:D

Adam

04-26-2011, 12:20 PM

I was well out of the loop. It was only until someone mentioned it on the beastie free part I was like WTF? A new album soon?

This I am more excited about, before TT5B came out I didn't actually think we'd see another album by them.

brooklyndust

04-26-2011, 12:22 PM

dave790

04-26-2011, 12:33 PM

I enjoyed that time. It's weird, although Make Some Noise is probably a better all round song, I don't think anything will match the first time I heard Ch-Check It Out. They dropped little snippets on the main page...hearing the whole thing was just fucking unreal.

I then remember a really good and fairly serious interview about the album with Zane Lowe, they dropped Triple Trouble and An Open Letter that night. The latter way everything I wanted it to be and more.

I remember being slightly let down the first time I heard TT5B. Then i played it again with headphones that night and it all made sense. It still does. It's too early to say which is the better album. In fact, I don't think I'll be able to answer that. At the time, TT5B was - in my mind - a perfectly executed, stripped down 'comeback.' Also, as a big fan, that first album you really anticipate by your favourite band is always a big deal.

The board was cool. I recall lyrics going up to songs before the album leaked. Everyone read MCA's verse in Rhyme the Rhyme Well. From that moment, I believed I'd prefer it to Hello Nasty, and to this day that very verse still holds sway. It just destroys that cartoon-ish HN vibe.

facedownfall

04-26-2011, 12:47 PM

It was pretty crazy. More mixed reviews.

I think that time period still holds the record for most people being online in a single day (1,461 people). At the time you could only hear the album being streamed on this website and mtv's leak. It wasn't linked up to blogs like now. Also, Yauch was doing a QandA on the message board.

You are correct "Most users ever online was 1,461, 06-26-2004 at 03:02 PM."

I remember in 2003 we all had to create new profiles since they moved the boards or something to a new server..not sure. That's why most of the older heads on here say 2003 as their join date.

http://web.archive.org/20020101000000*/http://www.beastieboys.com

Bradleystp

04-26-2011, 12:49 PM

I remember a lot of people getting heated about the "political" lyrics in TT5B. "Leave the politics to the politicians", and "Beastie Boys are just jumping on the bash G.W.B band wagon" were common thread comments.

I think people were really excited in the lead up, but like others have said, it went 50/50 once the album was released.

I also think some people let the "political' stuff make up their decision about TT5B, regardless that only 1 or 2 songs commented on it.

pm0ney

04-26-2011, 12:54 PM

I'd say the excitement and anticipation was larger than its ever been on here, present day included. I was more excited for that album than I was for this one. This one was more along the lines of "gee, I hope they can do better."

But the actual reaction to this album has been far, far more positive than it was for TT5B. Im interested to see how it will fare commercially.

mca64

04-26-2011, 01:26 PM

tt5b realese was a good time. There were promos gigs and others stuff like ch-check it out HD divx released by beasties. On dc++ hub was almost everything to download..

cj hood

04-26-2011, 01:55 PM

You are correct "Most users ever online was 1,461, 06-26-2004 at 03:02 PM."

this was either the live show on mtv jim hosted or their letterman appearance coming out of the subway....i think it was the latter.

Justin

04-26-2011, 01:57 PM

Also, when I think of the TT5B era...I think more about the tour than the album itself.

camo

04-26-2011, 02:15 PM

Yeah, there were hidden snippets of the new tracks dotted around the site and an influx of new members - it was an interesting time.

Not many noobs this time but I suppose it needs to be released first (y)

JoLovesMCA

04-26-2011, 02:15 PM

was it this mental? I imagine there wasnt as prolonged as this release but was it as big a buzz as seems on hsc2?

Were people being uber enthusiastic about tt5b?

and on another note, despite my wildest hopes, i really cant see there being any acapellas being made available from this album. i thought that was all down to tt5b's release in a hip hop style and thats why the pellas turned up. What do you reckon? I hope i am wrong

There is a Too Many Rappers A capella on e-bay. (y) As for the atmosphere I wasn’t here either. I would look in on things from the outside but really didn’t join the forums till recently. As a fan though personally I enjoyed the time. They did a lot of cool shows and promotional stuff as everybody else pointed out. I think the political stuff was a little heavy but the time/era was appropriate. And they are artists so they get to use that privilege and really get messages out the masses.

I do think this place is a lot more fun then when I first joined. I tried to get my Beastie friends online to join but say they won’t join because everybody is a dick. I don’t think so because obviously I’m here. :cool:

Laver1969

04-26-2011, 02:24 PM

About a year before TT5B dropped, they released In A World Gone Mad and most folks thought it was horrible. Then they did a couple of random shows and That's It That's All was played. This was still probably a year before TT5B came out.

The board was pretty split over TT5B. They put on a great tour and I think most were generally satisfied with an overall Beastie Experience. Album/Tour combo.

Now...it's pretty much an HSCP2 love fest. With minor bickering of how good or great it is...

I hope Yauch is well and they plan another awesome Album/Tour combo. This album is so good I hope they can feel the love when they step on stage to stage with the mic in their hand. (y)

Guy Incognito

04-26-2011, 02:35 PM

There is a Too Many Rappers A capella on e-bay. (y) As for the atmosphere I wasn’t here either. I would look in on things from the outside but really didn’t join the forums till recently. As a fan though personally I enjoyed the time. They did a lot of cool shows and promotional stuff as everybody else pointed out. I think the political stuff was a little heavy but the time/era was appropriate. And they are artists so they get to use that privilege and really get messages out the masses.

I do think this place is a lot more fun then when I first joined. I tried to get my Beastie friends online to join but say they won’t join because everybody is a dick. I don’t think so because obviously I’m here. :cool:

Theres one of them here (http://http://www.beastiemixes.com/acappellas.php) but they used to be on this website, fuckin loads of em. I really hope they do it again but i fear not

Guy Incognito

04-26-2011, 02:35 PM

There is a Too Many Rappers A capella on e-bay.

Theres one of them here (http://http://www.beastiemixes.com/acappellas.php) but the pellas used to be on this website, fuckin loads of em. I really hope they do it again but i fear not

kaiser soze

04-26-2011, 02:41 PM

I remember hopping on and the board's color scheme changed and I was like - oh shit....man it's bright!

I actually enjoyed IIWGM - but yeah I do remember people bitchin' about the political preaching of TT5B -But Brr Stick Em and Now Get Busy rocked.

Guy Incognito

04-26-2011, 03:00 PM

The board was pretty split over TT5B. They put on a great tour and I think most were generally satisfied with an overall Beastie Experience. Album/Tour combo.

i reckon the board still is split over it and i hadnt thought about it that way cos its one of the greatest gigs i have been to(y)

Fannypakks

04-26-2011, 03:04 PM

I remember when In a World Gone Mad came out, people were pretty upset how political it was. Everyone was afraid TT5B was going to be like that.

Once it came out, (even when MTV featured it on their The Leak section of their website) people were pretty excited because well... it was a new album. Then everyone started to think for themselves, and realized, "Wait, this entire album barely has a breath of live instruments."

Which led to the conclusion - TT5B wasn't a bad album. But, it certainly wasn't their best. Not really even considered to be in the Top 3.

Now that HSC has been heard, I think the die hard fans (myself included) are thinking "THIS is what I'm talking about."

Bernard Goetz

04-26-2011, 03:06 PM

I remember when In a World Gone Mad came out, people were pretty upset how political it was.

I was only upset about how weak it was.

Documad

04-26-2011, 06:41 PM

The board was pretty split over TT5B. They put on a great tour and I think most were generally satisfied with an overall Beastie Experience. Album/Tour combo.

I was a lurker before TT5B. I joined so I could ask people what they knew about the upcoming tour.

I've been thinking a lot about that tour lately--how I'd give anything to relive a few days in 2004-05. By 2003, I figured maybe I'd never see them perform again, then I got excited because they were actually touring, then I got disappointed because they didn't come to me, then I scrambled and started buying tickets in other cities. It started my era of extreme concert extravagance which frankly never ended. And you're partly to blame!!!! :p

Monsieur Decuts

04-26-2011, 07:00 PM

I've been lurking since pre-Hello Nasty, starting posting in the build up to TT5B as I was laid up from surgery for a month or so. I remember it being a really energetic time...lots of passion from the fans....and loads of politics across the board. The start of the Iraq war brought a lot of warranted emotion to the table.
But ya, tons of energy, as someone said lots of attitude towards the 6 year gap between albums. I feel MCA was talking directly to the board (as he often did during that time) when he said to "stay patient"!

Tons of activity when the album dropped and for the subsequent videos/appearances/tour. It was a great time to be on the board. As I remember the board was relatively happy with the release. The ennui to the album seems to come over time.

This new BBoys era has placed TT5B in its proper context. It certainly didn't fit as a career bookend and to me now stands alone as a distinct time in the catalog....certainly one that will forever illicit gut reactions from all fans, and one where the BBoys answered to no one but themselves (and to some degree Sasquatch)

It was also my favorite layout scheme for the site....I wish this board layout would hurry up and file itself in the wayback machine.

Bernard Goetz

04-26-2011, 07:05 PM

I've been lurking since pre-Hello Nasty

Really?

Monsieur Decuts

04-26-2011, 07:07 PM

Yup...with Netscape! I'm cj hood old.

Kid Presentable

04-26-2011, 07:10 PM

Yeah I lurked in the HN days, signed up on a whim. TT5B era was jam-packed with fucking idiots.

Documad

04-26-2011, 07:12 PM

Hey, I was one of those idiots! :mad:

Monsieur Decuts

04-26-2011, 07:13 PM

Yeah I lurked in the HN days, signed up on a whim. TT5B era was jam-packed with fucking idiots.

ya this is an accurate description! i just peaked at the board in the wayback machine and don't recognize one name...what ever happened to beastieboys420, iluvadrock and heartattackman7? too funny.

The tour was amazing...it was the first time i'd had a chance to see them live (east coast Canada gets no love). Did the Worcester, Montreal and Ottawa swing...this changed my whole perception of the bboys experience.

Documad

04-26-2011, 07:16 PM

I loved the TT5B album cover and site design. I bought the skateboard because I loved that design so much.

Kid Presentable

04-26-2011, 07:20 PM

Hey, I was one of those idiots! :mad:

As am I.

Jiberish

04-26-2011, 07:33 PM

This new BBoys era has placed TT5B in its proper context. It certainly didn't fit as a career bookend and to me now stands alone as a distinct time in the catalog....certainly one that will forever illicit gut reactions from all fans, and one where the BBoys answered to no one but themselves (and to some degree Sasquatch)

well said.

ClarenceAlabama

04-26-2011, 07:57 PM

But the actual reaction to this album has been far, far more positive than it was for TT5B. Im interested to see how it will fare commercially.

I will be shocked if this album even goes gold. Make Some Noise is not even in the top 200 songs on itunes right now... I think it's safe to say that the Beasties peaked creatively and commercialy during the 80's and 90's.

Having said that, I personally am loving HSC2 and i think it's a big improvement over TTFB. However, like most of the big acts from the 80's and 90's, only the die hard fans will buy the cd.

JoLovesMCA

04-26-2011, 08:09 PM

Bernard Goetz

04-26-2011, 08:23 PM

I will be shocked if this album even goes gold.

Beasties have enough goodwill from even non-hardcore fans to guarantee platinum no matter how much or little acclaim the record receives.

JasonP

04-26-2011, 08:36 PM

hsc2 is currently #31 on iTunes.

ClarenceAlabama

04-26-2011, 09:21 PM

I don't think Itunes will dictate Beastie Boys fate on this album. And even if only the hardcore fans buy it they have a lot of hardcore fans. I think it will do really well. If their instrumental NON rap album can win a Grammy then I am really not that worried.

According to Soundscan, The Mix-Up only sold 172,000 copies... Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties but I think their multi-platinum selling days are behind them.

I just listened to HSC2 again and I think this is their best sounding album since Check Your Head. You can listen to the whole thing straight through without skipping a track. It sounds better the more you listen to it. It deserves to sell really well. I wish them the best of luck with this one...

ClarenceAlabama

04-26-2011, 09:25 PM

hsc2 is currently #31 on iTunes.

Is that in Canada or the U.S.? You only have to sell 50,000 copies to go gold in Canada. You have to sell 500,000 to go gold in the U.S.

JoLovesMCA

04-26-2011, 09:28 PM

According to Soundscan, The Mix-Up only sold 172,000 copies... Don't get me wrong, I love the Beasties but I think their multi-platinum selling days are behind them.

I just listened to HSC2 again and I think this is their best sounding album since Check Your Head. You can listen to the whole thing straight through without skipping a track. It sounds better the more you listen to it. It deserves to sell really well. I wish them the best of luck with this one...

Well my comment on the Mix Up was to say that if a NON rap album can win a grammy a full fledged rap album can go gold or plat. Besides, their TT5B album debuted at number one on billboard so really the whole Itunes stats I don't think are enough to say that Hot Sauce ain't gonna make a bigger wave.

pm0ney

04-26-2011, 09:33 PM

I will be shocked if this album even goes gold. Make Some Noise is not even in the top 200 songs on itunes right now... I think it's safe to say that the Beasties peaked creatively and commercialy during the 80's and 90's.

Having said that, I personally am loving HSC2 and i think it's a big improvement over TTFB. However, like most of the big acts from the 80's and 90's, only the die hard fans will buy the cd.

I disagree. My second favorite act, Sade (dont hate) dropped "Soldier of Love" last February and had first week sales of half a million. It was almost impossible to find that song on the radio, and I doubt it was anywhere near the top of the itunes charts. Granted, it was a stronger single than Make Some Noise, but highly anticipated albums from groups like Beastie Boys and Sade will always sell well. I think HSC will eventually hit platinum status. Their first week sales of "The Mix Up" was only about 20,000 less than Nelly's first week sales of his latest album. And thats an instrumental record with zero promotion going up against a pop act who had a top 10 single.

Dont sleep on the Beasties selling power. The only thing that would concern me is how the album is basically already out before it was released.

edit: And as we speak its number 1 on Amazon's rap chart and number 10 on Amazon's pop chart.

Guy Incognito

04-27-2011, 12:28 AM

I think it will sell well but i dont think too many new converts will turn up. After years of nagging i finally got a couple of friends to get into beasties and they bought TT5B and were disappointed. I dont know if i can convince them again!. MAybe some youngsters might get on board and some people who got CYH or IC may get involved. I hope its well recieved. I

facedownfall

04-27-2011, 12:41 AM

ya this is an accurate description! i just peaked at the board in the wayback machine and don't recognize one name...what ever happened to beastieboys420, iluvadrock and heartattackman7? too funny.

The tour was amazing...it was the first time i'd had a chance to see them live (east coast Canada gets no love). Did the Worcester, Montreal and Ottawa swing...this changed my whole perception of the bboys experience.

Hahaha, I had over 1,000 posts back then before they redid the boards. I was obsessed with post counts back then..not so much now.

The Pageant Tour was awesome! I flew from VA to San Diego to see the show since they haven't been to Norfolk/Virginia Beach since 1992 and that was the last time I saw them. I had to go out to sea for a few months so the SD date was the only one I could do. My now ex-wife was like, wow they are really good live. I got to see them 4 times in '07 and once in '08 so I've made up for it. They did a lot of tv appearances in 2004..it was a good time. It's not a great album but it was still exciting because it had been so long between an official release (not counting IAWGM).

ILLMIX

04-27-2011, 01:29 AM

I will be shocked if this album even goes gold. Make Some Noise is not even in the top 200 songs on itunes right now... I think it's safe to say that the Beasties peaked creatively and commercialy during the 80's and 90's.

Having said that, I personally am loving HSC2 and i think it's a big improvement over TTFB. However, like most of the big acts from the 80's and 90's, only the die hard fans will buy the cd.

Yes, I will have to regretfully agree with you on this, as I think MSN is a stronger single with a better video than Ch-check it out, and CIO went to number 8 in the UK charts with a little promotion and a couple of live performances, however MSN did not even scratch the top 50, and with a music video as creative and filled with A list stars as MSN that is shocking.

I would love for this album to to number one, go platinum etc etc.. but realistically it looks like the beasties themselves are not too fussed, otherwise there would be a lot more 'conventional' promotion of this new stuff as we have seen before, like live performances, |MTV interviews, single being released 3-4 weeks before album with video on rotation 1 month before and magazine interviews...lets just hope for the best. :cool:

Lex Diamonds

04-27-2011, 03:30 AM

My OG join date was Jan 2002. I didn't sign up for a while after the crash because everyone here was so boring and I had nothing to say to them, but when That's It bootleg dropped shit started popping off and I got hyped for the new album. I don't remember what my first posts were like but I do remember having a lot of fun with the douche-chill noobs who started flooding in around the time of Ch-Check It Out. (y)

Junker

04-27-2011, 06:33 AM

I remember the politics discussions. BORING! (n)

Guy Incognito

04-27-2011, 11:25 AM

Yes, I will have to regretfully agree with you on this, as I think MSN is a stronger single with a better video than Ch-check it out, and CIO went to number 8 in the UK charts with a little promotion and a couple of live performances, however MSN did not even scratch the top 50, and with a music video as creative and filled with A list stars as MSN that is shocking.

: lets see what happens next week when it gets a load of time on channel 4. i imagine the album will benefit massively but i think MSN will chart.

This new BBoys era has placed TT5B in its proper context. It certainly didn't fit as a career bookend and to me now stands alone as a distinct time in the catalog....
(y)