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Michelle*s_Farm
05-15-2011, 03:48 AM
"Are we the baddies?"

Warning : Extreme political humor.

I do wonder why the international community does not request formal evidence and justification as to why bin Laden was not captured and tried in an international criminal court. Also wonder why the majority of people feel there was sufficient evidence and moral justification to kill bin Laden -- genuine evidence for his direct involvement in 9/11 is conspicuously absent (e.g., not even mentioned on the FBI Most Wanted page). Killing him was morally questionable and illogical for a variety of reasons. The international community should have been tasked with sorting out the truth upon his capture. Obviously the international community should condemn the recent actions of the US until evidence or an independent enquiry is conducted. Oh ya, the "Are we the baddies" humor part of this post below:

The Galactic Empire Times' Obi Wan Kenobi is Killed (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)

"Are we the baddies?" (http://youtu.be/FsNLbK8_rBY) by That Mitchell and Webb Look

Adam
05-15-2011, 12:59 PM
Lets play numberwang

17

Michelle*s_Farm
05-15-2011, 05:56 PM
8.2

Adam
05-16-2011, 12:15 AM
6,420,428

Michelle*s_Farm
05-16-2011, 04:47 AM
1

Adam
05-16-2011, 05:36 AM
1

Michelle*s_Farm
05-16-2011, 05:53 AM
1

Adam
05-16-2011, 05:56 AM
Erm, 1

Michelle*s_Farm
05-16-2011, 06:34 AM
1?

Adam
05-16-2011, 08:36 AM
THAT'S NUMBERWANG

ericg
05-18-2011, 11:31 AM
"Are we the baddies?"

Warning : Extreme political humor.

I do wonder why the international community does not request formal evidence and justification as to why bin Laden was not captured and tried in an international criminal court. Also wonder why the majority of people feel there was sufficient evidence and moral justification to kill bin Laden -- genuine evidence for his direct involvement in 9/11 is conspicuously absent (e.g., not even mentioned on the FBI Most Wanted page). Killing him was morally questionable and illogical for a variety of reasons. The international community should have been tasked with sorting out the truth upon his capture. Obviously the international community should condemn the recent actions of the US until evidence or an independent enquiry is conducted. Oh ya, the "Are we the baddies" humor part of this post below:

The Galactic Empire Times' Obi Wan Kenobi is Killed (http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html)

"Are we the baddies?" (http://youtu.be/FsNLbK8_rBY) by That Mitchell and Webb Look

wow, word up! number up. whatever. are you both lost or did you both win.. something?

why did this thread go retarded? like nothing better than numberwang?wtf over. who's running interference? trying to foil some quests? it's all shits and giggles and fun until the overriding theme of reality comes back.

neway you're absolutely correct.
because if they didn't dispose of him quickly and cap the bullshit story off for all the epidemically dumbed down out there following anything it would have blown up in their face. like you sed the evidence or lack of would have trumped the game where people would come out of the woodwork in support of more investigation into 911. damn that would have been really fucking grrreat! many international countries are culprit (bilderberg) or too scared to do anything about it. people have families.. maybe iran. how many clones did the cia come up with? and people just never got the right story. it was written in bright pink all over the fucking wall but it's like no one saw it. all they had is what 4 corporations running it all told them. that's the power of bullshit media. neway people are saying it was illegal by law to have killed him not being an active combatant. it's the old governmental shock doctrine coming back to haunt us.

HAL 9000
05-18-2011, 12:59 PM
wow, word up! number up. whatever. are you both lost or did you both win.. something?

why did this thread go retarded? like nothing better than numberwang?wtf over. who's running interference? trying to foil some quests? it's all shits and giggles and fun until the overriding theme of reality comes back.

neway you're absolutely correct.
because if they didn't dispose of him quickly and cap the bullshit story off for all the epidemically dumbed down out there following anything it would have blown up in their face. like you sed the evidence or lack of would have trumped the game where people would come out of the woodwork in support of more investigation into 911. damn that would have been really fucking grrreat! many international countries are culprit (bilderberg) or too scared to do anything about it. people have families.. maybe iran. how many clones did the cia come up with? and people just never got the right story. it was written in bright pink all over the fucking wall but it's like no one saw it. all they had is what 4 corporations running it all told them. that's the power of bullshit media. neway people are saying it was illegal by law to have killed him not being an active combatant. it's the old governmental shock doctrine coming back to haunt us.


THAT'S WORDWANG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCHktd1VrGY

JoLovesMCA
05-18-2011, 03:08 PM
I have read a lot of comments from friends online who thought it was unfair to kill him. Well you know I can’t say for certain if he was specifically linked to 911 but in my eyes if Laden is responsible for even ONE death and then that one person to me is worth him getting his head blown to bits. Also I don’t think they would have gotten much more information from him, or even worse they would have negotiated with him and he would end up with all of these special rights. He’d probably play the system the way Vandersloot is doing now with the Holloway case because he has information that he knows they want. I hate when criminals play the system and draw things out to infinity even while the evidence against them is overwhelming. I never understood that. No thank you. I think the more terrorists we take OUT the better off we’ll all be.

HAL 9000
05-18-2011, 03:27 PM
^ The problem is that most of us in the west believe in the some form of human rights declaration which generally involves a presumption of innocence (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a11).

And it is probably adherence to such codes which separates 'us' from 'them'. So one could argue that this outcome has denied everyone justice.

This is one of those awkward situations where I cannot quite connect my human reaction (pleased he was killed) with any kind of logical or ethical argument.

You are right though, seeing him stand trial for years would have been farcical.

Adam
05-18-2011, 11:30 PM
You are right though, seeing him stand trial for years would have been farcical.

It wouldn't of been for years, Saddam's trial wasn't and the end result (sentence) will of still of been the same. But we didn't get a chance to talk to him, maybe gain some influence by not killing him - surely better for the war effort?

Another problem is that this assassination can't of been all that legal - no one is gonna sue the US for it though, it's just why not capture this old unarmed man instead? What don't we know that killing him was the right decision? I don't believe Navy Seals are that amateur they would of killed someone by mistake - I mean, they aren't the met police.

It might a no win situation though. I'm still very indifferent to it all but the celebrations were very tacky.

Plus, I don't agree with the death penalty but that is off the point.

Michelle*s_Farm
05-19-2011, 06:04 AM
This recent article by a Nuremberg lawyer (http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/78634,news-comment,news-politics,nuremberg-prosecutor-bin-laden-killing-was-wrong-video)(former US soldier in WW II as well)
who prosecuted Nazi war criminals is good. He makes it quite clear why it was illogical and wrong to kill bin Laden.

Link (http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/78634,news-comment,news-politics,nuremberg-prosecutor-bin-laden-killing-was-wrong-video)