Could News Corp in the UK collapse

[Adam]

I doubt it but I really hope so and I'm happy to donate a lot of energy to that cause

[Guy Incognito]

I doubt it but I really hope so and I'm happy to donate a lot of energy to that cause

maybe but that would still leave a lot of papers, stations etc up for grabs for some other cunt to buy and have a massive empire.

[Adam]

Maybe some cunt but not the most evil cunt that has ever lived and likely to live as we have now.

[kaiser soze]

with reports of potential police briberies and 9/11 victim hacking - Murdoch is (should be) in some serious shit

and if not - then fuck them and those who are protecting them. Any wiggling out of this will destroy media trust in the public (or what is left of it) for a long time.

We need to stop enabling the exploitation of innocent people in the name of news - it just goes against our safety, security, privacy, and liberties.

Hacking dead children's phones to get a story?

That is truly fucking disgusting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14127282

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6nHviFqbQc&feature=player_embedded

[Adam]

Rupert Murdoch, son James and Rebekah Brooks have been asked to appear before a parliamentary enquiry. Reads like Rupert and James can't be forced/summoned because they are foreign nationals. But all have just been asked so far.

I want it to take Cameron down too - but I really doubt. I mean this is actually bigger than watergate imo and stretches across all of the news corp empire in the UK with todays (or maybe yesterdays) revelations and I don't think we're at the Brooks own words of "there is worse to come".

Must admit as a wet liberal I am loving it in a 'told you so' manner :D

I am also interested how it is getting reported round the rest of the world too.

Charlie Brooker on twitter has dubbed this Omnigate, hehe. edit: I voted for OMFGate though (another one of his suggestions)

[kaiser soze]

I have yet to see anything of FOX News bringing this up - you know damn well if it was any other news corp pulling this shit they would be on it like flies on shit.

[Adam]

What about other news outlets, they can take some real jibes at News Corp with this, surely must be worth a collaboration attack against fox's connections to news corp that could spill over to some american hacks very easily if looked hard enough - well I'm will to put money on some high profile US figures have been at least attempted victims.

[kaiser soze]

yeah - I'm sure the big outlets are trying to not make it look like a witch hunt, and possible fear they could very well have some dirt dished on them if they speak up too loudly.

msnbc has something right now

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43722287/ns/world_news-europe/

I understand journalism isn't always clean and honest, but this goes beyond getting a story, it is espionage and exceptionally exploitative.

Did hacking the phones of dead children provide any, ANY good for society?

Can we say that people reporting on famines/wars/taking pictures of starving/dead women and children falls in the same realm of journalism?

I don't know how this compares to Wikileaks approach as well....they are reporting what is provided to them and usually is exposing seemingly hidden agendas and information that could be seen as contributing to the detriment of society.

I hope those who have been affected sue the fuck out of the hackers/Murdoch and I really can't see how reputation can be repaired.

[Adam]

It's the public interest argument.

The hacking did expose the MP expenses scandal which sent UK MPs to jail - big worthwhile shit. Same with wikileaks, exposing lies of those charged to make decisions on our behalf in our name.

However, the public interest in a murdered girls voicemail and then deleting them that interferes with a current police enquiry or what a celeb is talking about or sleeping with isn't in the public interest. It's just inane gossip.

I know it's a line you to walk but most good decent journalist know that line and we all have a moral compass that might sometimes stray but if it does you generally realise and you put it back - NoTW was a whole culture of no morals, lost sight of the line along with the rest of news corps newspapers which probably have the same skeletons and are probably bricking themselves on how to hide or what to do if exposed.

Edit also want to say: In my opinion the PCC (Police Complaints Commission) and pretty much any independent enquiry that isn't headed by a judge isn't independent. Having the police investigate the police they'll find nothing, as they always do - especially the met. It needs a judge, it needs court cases, arrests of those involved who have committed crimes no matter how high profile they are.

[saz]

get in touch with avaaz (http://www.avaaz.org/en/) if you want to do something.

[Adam]

If News Corp hacked the phones of 9/11 families, Fox News is finished (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/15/usa-rupert-murdoch)

Imagine the collapse of Fox just before Obama stands for re-election! :eek:

edit: should say in my opinion I think most of this is a lot of wishful thinking.

[kaiser soze]

check out this FOX NEWS interview concerning it - talk about awkward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtC4gT-_Nj0&feature=player_embedded

[abbott]

my first thought is ...

it's all the same, only names will change.........

but shit I kinda think we are seeing part of the new way that we are watching as a result of the public information.

I know in my state, the corruption and political scandals are being uncovered and high level politicians are resigning and going to jail as never seen before.

I still believe the first is true, but I actually have hope the later is up and coming....

[Adam]

Most people believe this story will run for at least a year.

I've seen a few american reports on it and I don't think they grasped the scale of it in the UK yet. We're about 250 of 4000 victims in and it's already claimed a MAJOR newspaper, two very senior police officers including a commissioner, CEO of news corp resigning and being arrested, some have already served jail sentences as this has been running since 2006. It's effected MPs careers, top police, many millions of £s lost (if not billions).

It's the best piece of soap opera they has been ever! The Wire didn't have shit on this (y)

[Dorothy Wood]

I think this site was created by news corp: http://shariah4america.com/

and I think anjem choudary is on the payroll.

why else would there be two videos on the main page of him on Fox News getting dressed down? it's like it's specifically designed for people to dislike him.

I've tried emailing news type people who would be into breaking a story like that, but haven't gotten any response.


but pretty much seems like it was invented for trolls like glenn beck to use to scare idiots, example:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102280035


I mean, where'd he get a high res image of the site header to print out and mount onto a magnet? come on now.