RUGBY WORLD CUP THREAD!! [Archive] - Beastie Boys Message Board

Adam

09-10-2011, 02:12 AM

Caught the opener and all but the last 8 mins of France Vs. Japan so far (I assume France won in the end?).

My favourite part so far has been the Hakka (don't care who traditionally does it etc, it's all good to me). But as in the football world cup I find myself supporting Japan because they always seem so gutsy when they are never anywhere near the favourite. The fact that Japan do play rugby at an international level is pretty surprising.

Guy Incognito

09-10-2011, 02:19 AM

fuck you all

hahaha. I think NZ will win.

Caught the opener and all but the last 8 mins of France Vs. Japan so far (I assume France won in the end?).

My favourite part so far has been the Hakka (don't care who traditionally does it etc, it's all good to me). But as in the football world cup I find myself supporting Japan because they always seem so gutsy when they are never anywhere near the favourite. The fact that Japan do play rugby at an international level is pretty surprising.

i am sort of half english and half welsh, especially when it comes to rugby but its going to be SA v NZ final.

why is it surprising about japan?

Adam

09-10-2011, 02:47 AM

why is it surprising about japan?

I suppose NZ and Japan are pretty close and kinda mix a lot but Japan doesn't seem like the country to embrace such a physical sport. Football is non-contact, I totally get that - a typical Japanese build is light and quick, rugby generally requires larger builds. It surprises me the USA haven't got a team actually, you'd think it'd be totally there thing.

I will admit I know very little of rugby though, I know England won it once in the last 10 years (I assume 8 years ago) but it's not a sport where I've ever fully picked up the rules and not one I imagine I'll ever play.

icy manipulator

09-10-2011, 03:05 AM

the All Blacks should win it, but that's pretty much the way it's been every world cup, and yet they've choked. they're the top ranked team, the favourites and it's on home soil. but look at the tri-nations, they lost the last 2 matches against the Springboks and Wallabies. sign of another failure to come???

the springboks could win it if they get their act together. i think they're the best team on paper but Frank De Villilers is fucking retarded. no way i'd ever split up a combo like Steyn and Du Preez

the wallabies probably will win, or lose to England in the quarters or semis AGAIN! at least there's no Giteau in the team to fuck things up AGAIN!

France dont have Sebastien Chabel, so they're fucked:)

i haven't really paid too much attention to the northern hemisphere teams. in my mind because the top 3 ranked teams all almost always the Tri Nation teams i assume one of them will always win the world cup.

oh and i still hate JOHNNY FUCKING WILKINSON!:mad:

Adam

09-10-2011, 03:11 AM

Who is Johnny and why is he fucking Wilkinson?

icy manipulator

09-11-2011, 12:18 AM

Really?? he won you the world cup in 03 by turning it into a game of soccer

That's Italy down, next up the Irish

Guy Incognito

09-11-2011, 02:20 AM

Really?? he won you the world cup in 03 by turning it into a game of soccer

you mean we turned up in your park and kicked your arse.

icy manipulator

09-11-2011, 02:55 AM

you mean we turned up in your park and kicked your arse.

KICKED and not much else:rolleyes:

Gareth

09-11-2011, 04:04 AM

australia look dangerous. robbie deans, as much as i hate him, is a genius coach and his backline is as good as the ABs (if not better). add to that, the fact that pocock may be better than mccaw right now...it all makes me rather nervous. the ABs advantage over the wallabies has always been our forward pack. we need to dominate otherwise we may lose. this is all assuming we end up playing the aussies at some point, but if there's one team that bothers me it's you bastards.

england...they were looking quite good at the end of last year. i thought johnson was building nicely. they werent the best v argentina though.

the SA v wales games is delicate. wales look sharp. i have tickets to that game but am not there to go.

who else...france? always a threat. ireland....not too worried about them to be honest. they might pull of an upset, but won't be able to pull off two or three in a row to win the whole thing.

re: japan, they have a ton of people in their country and some of the dudes there are quite big. also, there's enough money in their professional league to attract good players from overseas. not necessarily the top players, but enough ABs (and good S14 players) have gone there in the past. and their coach is john kirwan.

Guy Incognito

09-11-2011, 04:45 AM

england got hammered about 30 odd-0 in first game in last world cup and still made the final so i will take a narrow win against the argies.

oh and as for the 03 conversation - two words. Jason fucking Robinson.

i have to say that i would quite like france to win, they have always done well and deserve to win it once at least

Kid Presentable

09-11-2011, 05:06 AM

I remember watching the 03 final live in a pub in South London, having to support the Wallabies by default at that stage, and being jeered the fuck out of there when it was all over.

EDIT: John Kirwan for the win.

Also, I always back the Irish to do it, and every cup they let me down.

easy 3

09-11-2011, 07:38 AM

A disappointing result in the SA vs Wales match, but we've nothing to be ashamed of and have to retain the ambition we've worked hard to build.

Cadw dy ysbryd! Cymru am byth!

icy manipulator

09-12-2011, 03:23 AM

yeah i thought there was going to be an upset in the sa vs wales match. well done to wales though, they're a young team and willl probably be pretty scary in 2015. definitely a close one. springboks better get their act together if they wanna do well this world cup.

i only found out the other day that the all blacks have never beaten the wallabies or springboks in a world cup. i knew they choked alot but damn i didn't think it was that bad

Gareth

09-12-2011, 05:23 AM

i still remember 91
tim horan and david campese shredding us up
and then 03 with gregan's infamous "four more years, boys!" call
ugh
it hurt cos it was true

FunkyHiFi

09-14-2011, 06:00 PM

It surprises me the USA haven't got a team actually, you'd think it'd be totally there thing.It could be those short-shorts rugby players wear - our Puritan past frowns on such things. ;):D Seriously though, I'm not criticizing rugby because the sport I was part of back in college has a uniform that is so politically-incorrect - "oh my I can see his parts!" (http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/234448-The-Virginia-Duals/video/116387-149lbs-Steve-Brown-Central-Michigan-vs-Trevor-Chinn-Lehigh-) :rolleyes: - that all by itself literally keeps some people from joining the team.....but man are they missing out on a fun sport! Btw if they had rugby back when I was in high school, I would have seriously considered trying out for it.

like2_drink

09-14-2011, 10:54 PM

Oh Canada! 25-20 v Tonga, gripping match the entire time - literally I suppose; my dog was asleep in my arms and I accidently choked him when Canada took the final try! Can't wait to see Canada v Japan on the 27th should be another interesting one. Hopefuly NZ beats the shit out of them physically and thank god France doens't have Chabal anymore hah..

like2_drink

09-14-2011, 11:03 PM

It surprises me the USA haven't got a team actually, you'd think it'd be totally there thing.

Being that the MLB, and the NFL are totally their thing; Rugby seems culturally out of reach, ripping off other sports (Hurling, Rugby) seems to be more their thing. Good on 'em for having a team tho.

icy manipulator

09-15-2011, 01:45 AM

wait aren't NFL shorts skin tight? or have american movies been lying to me?

oh and dont knock Stubbies until you've tried them. they're the most comfortable things in the world. mind you i never wear them outside the house!

Adam

09-15-2011, 03:00 AM

Being that the MLB, and the NFL are totally their thing; Rugby seems culturally out of reach, ripping off other sports (Hurling, Rugby) seems to be more their thing. Good on 'em for having a team tho.

I didn't realise they had a team until after I wrote that. Kinda assumed they didn't because nothing in this thread had been said about them yet although it was only about 5 posts in.

Saw the canadian match too, I enjoyed it. Watched a bit of scotland after and it was very meh - think they won in the end tho.

FunkyHiFi

09-15-2011, 11:55 AM

wait aren't NFL shorts skin tight? or have american movies been lying to me?Yes our football players' football pants are of the body-hugging variety but the top (i.e. the jersey) is pretty loose, so I guess to many Americans when they see them *together* the end result is an acceptable uniform. :rolleyes:

oh and dont knock Stubbies until you've tried them. they're the most comfortable things in the world. mind you i never wear them outside the house!Oh I never said they weren't comfortable. And from a sports point of view, they seem like they allow great freedom-of-movement which is what is important out on the field because looks/styling is definitely a secondary consideration to serious athletes (btw for practice sessions, many college & high school wrestling teams here are starting to adopt the use of those body-hugging shorts like mma fighters wear - baggy/long shorts can interfere with certain techniques - but it looks like until most of the older governing body officials retire they probably won't be allowed for use during official competitons).

like2_drink

09-15-2011, 09:15 PM

I'm not sure what you meant by 'stubbies' but I assure you I played rugby in HS/men's league/varsity Uni. lvl; if you mean the tight shorts n spandex I can rock it w the best of 'em..I blew my shoulder out and can't play anymore so I rock climb now - thinking about getting my coaching certificate for HS now that I'm back in town. (I also played Canadian football and wore that type of spandex too)

like2_drink

09-15-2011, 09:16 PM

nothing in this thread had been said about them yet

lol what would there be to say? That could be a thread on its own, hah!

AUS v IRE - should be a great matchup!

IRE better kick some ass, 7 of Munsters players weren't at the match I attended due to training!

like2_drink

09-15-2011, 11:44 PM

the 17th AUS v IRE, 18th FRA v CAN, 25th ARG v SCT, 30th SA v Samoa, will all be very good matches to watch; thoughts/ predictions?

I'll also be anticipating the Eng/SCT, IT/RUS, CAN v NZ... matches as well

icy manipulator

09-16-2011, 01:07 AM

i really like the way the irish play rugby, there was a great game between us and them on the 2009 summer tour that ended in a 20 all draw. however it should be a pretty straight forward win for us. ireland have been playing like shite over the past year and except for Digby Ioane we'll have a full strength squad that just won the tri-nations. i just bloody hope they dont let James O'connor take the conversions. That's the wallabies biggest weakness. when SA have morne steyn and NZ have dan carter, we cant make up our fucking minds.

ARG v SCO should be a good one.

Adam

09-16-2011, 01:14 AM

NZL JPN are on in a bit. This is the first match I've decided to watch rather than just catching it by accident. I want to see an upset as I just enjoyed watching Japan other day. And I know a couple of Kiwi's who'll be upset. ha.

LuciferHam

09-16-2011, 05:31 AM

New Zealand went up against the almighty juganaut of international rugby that is Japan and SOME HOW SURVIVED.

I'm not sure how, but we came through, skin of our teeth on that one.

Also TONGA. are awesome

Kid Presentable

09-16-2011, 06:18 AM

NZ v Japan was underway. Nek minute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq36Y-IN6fE)...

Adam

09-16-2011, 09:07 AM

I didn't watch it in the end but I've seen the score :eek:

To be expected really.

FunkyHiFi

09-16-2011, 11:23 AM

Oh dear - nekked rugby :eek::D

"'Nude Blacks' bare all for rugby fun" (http://news.yahoo.com/nude-blacks-bare-rugby-fun-094707861.html)

You'll have to find the links yourselves :) but there are videos out there of this pre-World Cup game. After the initial shock wears off, it's actually rather funny to watch, and they do play a real game of rugby i.e. they aren't out there just to shock people (I think).

icy manipulator

09-16-2011, 09:04 PM

because of some fucking retarded reason we're getting a delayed broadcast of the Aus vs Ire match tonight :mad::mad:

dirty mutha fuckers!:mad:

FunkyHiFi

09-16-2011, 11:31 PM

because of some fucking retarded reason we're getting a delayed broadcast of the Aus vs Ire match tonight :mad::mad:Maybe because of a time zone difference i.e. their "target" audience would be asleep at the time of the game?

icy manipulator

09-17-2011, 01:29 AM

Maybe because of a time zone difference i.e. their "target" audience would be asleep at the time of the game?
nah, we're only 2 hours behind so there's no trouble with that. australia's pretty close to new zealand:p

the free to air channel here is only showing the australian matches, nothing else, which already sucks, but they're showing a fucking RUGBY LEAGUE game which is on at the same time just because it features a local team.

on the plus side at least now i get to go to the pub to watch it live :D

Adam

09-17-2011, 01:31 AM

on the plus side at least now i get to go to the pub to watch it live :D

maybe that is it, it was a ploy by publicans to get people in by lobbying the free to air channels.

icy manipulator

09-17-2011, 04:34 AM

ummmm, shit:(

Guy Incognito

09-17-2011, 04:35 AM

ooooosh!

great result for the competition

icy manipulator

09-17-2011, 04:52 AM

ooooosh!

great result for the competition

yeah, realistically it's all over for us now. assuming everything else goes to plan we'll now play the all blacks in the quarters, and i can't see how we'll beat them, they're just too good. see you in 2015.

Kid Presentable

09-17-2011, 05:32 AM

yeah, realistically it's all over for us now. assuming everything else goes to plan we'll now play the all blacks in the quarters, and i can't see how we'll beat them, they're just too good. see you in 2015.

ABs beating the Wallabies in a cup isn't a sure thing

icy manipulator

09-17-2011, 07:12 AM

ABs beating the Wallabies in a cup isn't a sure thing

i hate matches that are decided purely by penalty kicks. they'll never live up to the 95 final ( AKA INVICTUS)

fuck history, the all blacks deserve to win, nek minute

like2_drink

09-17-2011, 12:49 PM

I missed the AUS v IRE match :mad: Fuckin eh! I couldn't find it on TSN..The final score makes it seem like it must have been a fuckin sick match tho, anyone up for a lil play-by-play/highlights post for me?

Gareth

09-18-2011, 02:12 AM

good win by ireland, but i still dont see them pulling off three wins in a row against the top teams to be abke to win it all (quarter, semi, final)

icy manipulator

09-18-2011, 11:20 PM

well it's not impossible. it's looking like the top half of the finals draw will be made up of six nations teams and the bottom half tri-nations and argentina. they've gotta be pretty confident playing against teams they play and win against more consistently. that's assuming everything else goes to plan, but there'll probably be another upset or 2 this world cup

Adam

09-21-2011, 02:58 AM

icy manipulator

09-23-2011, 03:45 AM

Watching Tonga-Japan right now. What I like about rugby is when they're given an infringement against them they don't argue at all really and just get on with it. Footballers tend to throw their toys around, cry and generally look like a big sissy. The referees tend to have the respect of the players too - football should look into why it can happen in rugby but not in football.

yeah, this is pretty much the reason i dont watch soccer anymore, i got sick soccer players acting like little fucking cry babies every time they were touched. it's a contact sport, harden up ffs! there was a match were Quade Cooper spear tackled Morne Steyn, it was a dangerous move so instead of staying on the ground and crying like a little bitch Morne got up straight away looked at the ref and was like wtf? that's the way things should be handled. the referees are not idiots, soccer players need to treat them with respect and not act like little bitches.

Anyway, Wallabies vs USA, AGAIN it's been delayed because of the fucking rugby league!:mad: just hurry up and fucking lose Brisbane Broncos dirty mofos

Oh yeah, last night Bryan Habana FINALLY got his 39th try after being stuck on 38 for what like at least a year? he hasn't impressed me so far this world cup, springboks should start Chilliboy in the first 15 purely for the fact he has the maddest name in the competition(y)

icy manipulator

09-28-2011, 09:34 PM

so if we smash russia and italy somehow beat ireland we may just be ok :rolleyes:

like2_drink

09-28-2011, 10:19 PM

CAN v JAP TIE!!! :mad:

I've been avoiding this thread after that..Sick match would've been pumped to have CAN win it too.

icy manipulator

09-30-2011, 09:29 PM

hit the half century already, we might be on for top score in the competition so far:D
now italy just has to beat ireland!

Adam

10-02-2011, 04:18 AM

Italy-Ireland was a great 2nd half.

Still not caught England live but watched the highlights with Scotland and I can see why England are the team everyone loves to hate - it's all about the kicking game.

icy manipulator

10-02-2011, 06:52 AM

quarter finals are up

ireland vs wales
england vs france
australia vs south africa
new zealand vs argentina

fuck man, tough draw for the bottom half.
from what i've seen so far the only match i can pick a clear winner in is new zealand to beat argentina. rest are too hard to call
i'd like to see what a full strength french side can do, might make it all the way to the final

Guy Incognito

10-02-2011, 07:03 AM

i reckon it will be these four in the semis

wales
england
australia
new zealand

Kid Presentable

10-02-2011, 07:22 AM

icy manipulator

10-02-2011, 07:59 AM

maybe, but australia's been pretty sloppy too, russia managed 3 tries against us, plus there's been shitloads of injuries. we've almost run out of wingers, fuck man, Radike Samo played on the wing on saturday.

springboks line up is rather scary, and yeah, i'm not too confident.........

dave790

10-02-2011, 08:07 AM

I think England should beat France. Even though we've not set the world alight, we are winning games and, although it seems silly to say such a thing in a sport like rugby, digging deep.

It gives me hope the way the front row turned it round at half time against the Scots. And it isn't all about the kicking game; I think Ashton and Cueto (if he gets on) have plenty more tries in them in the instances where England become a little more expansive.

I am a little worried that Delon Armitage will probably be banned... His ability to retain / gain possession under pressure at the back has been priceless for England so far. Elsewhere, I think Ireland will beat Wales, SA will beat Australia, and NZ will beat Argentina. From there it's anyone's to win.

icy manipulator

10-02-2011, 10:51 PM

Ashton has been pretty fucking amazing. he might even top the most tries in a would cup tournament if england make it to the final. although i hope he doesn't, lol

icy manipulator

10-08-2011, 12:46 AM

CROUCH
TOUCH
PAUSE
ENGAGE!!!

icy manipulator

10-08-2011, 02:20 AM

looks like a real french side showed up tonight
and england are getting fucked in the arse pretty hard(y)

icy manipulator

10-09-2011, 12:51 AM

HOLY SHIT!!!!!:eek:
james o'connor i take back every bad thing i've ever said about you!:D

Kid Presentable

10-09-2011, 12:51 AM

Awesome result.

Gareth

10-09-2011, 12:58 AM

good d.
lets go boys!

Gareth

10-09-2011, 03:19 AM

what up australia

Kid Presentable

10-09-2011, 03:49 AM

This should be fucking interesting. A country that expects to win against a country that wants to win. Gonna put $50 down on the Wallabies.

icy manipulator

10-09-2011, 04:11 AM

that's the first time i've seen argentina play this world cup and now see why they were ranked 4th in the world at the time of seeding. the first 60 mins was tight, but then......
i was wondering if they'd be good enough for the tri nations, but yeah, it should make things interesting

hmm, wallabies vs all blacks... fuckballs. cant pick a winner. it should be the all blacks, but you know, history, choking blah blah blah. there's been some fucking amazing rugby this weekend

FunkyHiFi

10-13-2011, 05:51 PM

Bob

10-13-2011, 06:36 PM

cool dude, stand up guy, mensch

i think

FunkyHiFi

10-13-2011, 07:35 PM

cool dude, stand up guy, mensch

i thinkAppreciate it!

icy manipulator

10-15-2011, 02:53 AM

that tackle was pretty dirty

icy manipulator

10-15-2011, 03:49 AM

and then there were 3

venusvenus123

10-15-2011, 06:28 AM

If anyone has the time and patience to do so :), I need a translation for a British(?) phrase. What's a "cracking bloke"?

I saw this in this article (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10758989) about the English rugby team.

Urbandictionary.com wasn't much help & don't really trust public-edited slang dictionaries in the first place.

Thanks!

Yea, think Bob's got it--it means he's a decent person, that's all. People tend to use "cracking" for a man rather than a woman, but it can apply to either, I think.

Shame our Welsh boys won't be in the final.

GO ALL BLACKS!

icy manipulator

10-16-2011, 02:48 AM

explosive start from the all blacks. lucky they're only 8 in front

icy manipulator

10-16-2011, 03:54 AM

not happy jan

Kid Presentable

10-16-2011, 05:42 AM

Wow. Australia got trounced.

Gareth

10-16-2011, 01:00 PM

haha yea boy
beating france will be sweet sweet revenge for all the heartbreak they've caused
and, to be honest, if they win it'll kinda suck
the RWC champion shouldnt be a team that lost to tonga in pool play

Kid Presentable

10-16-2011, 04:04 PM

Yeah after that I am convinced the ABs will demolish the French. It's going to be buzzy seeing Richie hold up that trophy. Once upon a time we were in the same class at school; some pretty massive forks were taken (n)

icy manipulator

10-16-2011, 07:31 PM

there is a lot of rage inside me. i really want to punch Israel Dagg the balding fuck

icy manipulator

10-20-2011, 09:22 PM

hmm, go play cards tonight or watch a half hearted game for bronze. i dont know if i could be fucked watching Wales vs Australia

icy manipulator

10-23-2011, 12:30 AM

an hour and a half to go!

got your choker on Gareth?:rolleyes:

icy manipulator

10-23-2011, 04:05 AM

Holy shit, 1 point in it, what a game.i was thinking france might get there in the end

but i just found out what happened to Marco Simoncelli in the MotoGP so that's put a downer on everything. RIP

Kid Presentable

10-23-2011, 07:30 AM

Piss weak victory. But they've lost to worse.

easy 3

10-23-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm Welsh (my real name is Gareth too!) and my girlfriend is Australian so it's been quite an emotional world cup overall.

Rugby Union can be an unpredictable game at test level and I can't seem to get enough of it recently. I must have watched at least 50% of the games this world cup - All sorts of matches.

Wales can play some great rugby but all too often fail to secure the right results, but this world cup has definitely been a step in the right direction from my point of view.

(Much to my Aus girlfriend's disgust) I'm happy about NZ winning it (congrats!) as they're the home nation and have wanted it so badly for so long, and obviously they're one of the world's most rugby-obsessed nations, but I'm glad that France at least produced a competitive final.

I'm hugely proud of my team and have really enjoyed the competition this year. I'm looking forward to the next World Cup in 2015.(y)(y)