View Full Version : swan song??
DrunkenMantis
09-13-2011, 11:06 AM
I'm sorry to say, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think we've seen what
we're gonna see from the Beasties.
Brother McDuff
09-13-2011, 01:28 PM
I think you're wrong.
DJ Pioneer
09-13-2011, 02:48 PM
Well, HSC Part 1 will be coming out at some point. I'm guessing that the TMU re-release with people singing/rapping over the instrumentals is permanently shelved now.
I think they're gonna keep making music, but as the past tells us it's going to be a good 4 years till an album of all new material comes out.
Mike D and especially Adrock have made a ton of remixes over the last 5 years or so. Even if they're not recording music for the BBoys, they're still working on music (except MCA who focuses on film stuff - oh and he produced Bad Brains).
SoundScientist
09-13-2011, 04:09 PM
Well, HSC Part 1 will be coming out at some point. I'm guessing that the TMU re-release with people singing/rapping over the instrumentals is permanently shelved now.
I think they're gonna keep making music, but as the past tells us it's going to be a good 4 years till an album of all new material comes out.
Mike D and especially Adrock have made a ton of remixes over the last 5 years or so. Even if they're not recording music for the BBoys, they're still working on music (except MCA who focuses on film stuff - oh and he produced Bad Brains).
This man speaks the truth. Look up any songs that are accompanied by the tag 'Small Stars Remix' He's (Adrock) got a lot of decent remixes.
Kid Presentable
09-13-2011, 04:21 PM
I'm sorry to say, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think we've seen what
we're gonna see from the Beasties.
I think you're wrong.
dave790
09-13-2011, 09:26 PM
I'm sorry to say, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think we've seen what
we're gonna see from the Beasties.
Bad timing.
Brother McDuff
09-19-2011, 12:32 PM
in fact, I think we'll see HSC pt 1 sooner than if we were waiting for a 'brand new' record.
the obvious reason being that it's already recorded (and likely mixed), but the other reason being that once (hopefully) Yauch is given the okay, the bboys are going to have alot of pent up live energy (not to mention a huge demand).
here are 3 (but surely not limited to 3) scenarios, once Yauch recovers:
1) an immediate tour (either standalone or delayed HSC pt 2 tour) to A)welcome Yauch back and to appease hungry fans, and/or B)to capitalize on the remaining heat of the HSC release (though this depends on how soon such a scenario were to play out, and such would probly inspire another single release to supplement the tour/album relationship).
2) a fast-tracked release of HSC pt 1 with a proper tour, to A)capitalize on their live absence and promote HSC pt 1 simultaneously, and/or B)to put the entire HSC era behind them and move forward into a newly inspired project to shake off the tribulations that plagued their last few years.
3) any combination of expediting HSC pt 1 for the mere sake of finishing out their contract with Capitol and enjoying the satisfaction of knowing their future will be both unrestricted and undefined from that point on. the freedom to record only if they want to, at their own pace, or not, if they don't.
I am surely blathering here, sorry.
Turchinator
09-19-2011, 12:47 PM
it's a long recovery. I dont think its a "cancer" thing anymore.I think it's a "facial nerve damage" thing.
I see them playing/recording more instrumental stuff, but sustaining a live tour with all those rhymes is going to be difficult for the time being.
I hope I'm wrong?
fonky pizza
09-19-2011, 12:52 PM
I do hope you are wrong.
JoLovesMCA
09-19-2011, 02:11 PM
in fact, I think we'll see HSC pt 1 sooner than if we were waiting for a 'brand new' record.
the obvious reason being that it's already recorded (and likely mixed), but the other reason being that once (hopefully) Yauch is given the okay, the bboys are going to have alot of pent up live energy (not to mention a huge demand).
here are 3 (but surely not limited to 3) scenarios, once Yauch recovers:
1) an immediate tour (either standalone or delayed HSC pt 2 tour) to A)welcome Yauch back and to appease hungry fans, and/or B)to capitalize on the remaining heat of the HSC release (though this depends on how soon such a scenario were to play out, and such would probly inspire another single release to supplement the tour/album relationship).
2) a fast-tracked release of HSC pt 1 with a proper tour, to A)capitalize on their live absence and promote HSC pt 1 simultaneously, and/or B)to put the entire HSC era behind them and move forward into a newly inspired project to shake off the tribulations that plagued their last few years.
3) any combination of expediting HSC pt 1 for the mere sake of finishing out their contract with Capitol and enjoying the satisfaction of knowing their future will be both unrestricted and undefined from that point on. the freedom to record only if they want to, at their own pace, or not, if they don't.
I am surely blathering here, sorry.
Interesting, I never considered the fact that they would just move on and do new material. We know they have more songs to work with since there is a Part 1 sitting. Whatever they decide the fact is that Yauch still had awhile to go. He has been protecting himself really well though so hopefully that is working in his favor with the treatments. ;)
Kid Presentable
09-19-2011, 05:56 PM
It's basically none of our business, and my own current run of over-sharing isn't going to magically bring about an update (no matter how much I wish it would), but for all we know they could be reconvening as we speak (type).
That's probably the worst thing about the optimism, though. The inevitable let-down. I just hope dude is doing good, and am hanging onto those Big Day Out 2012 rumours for all they are worth.
The scenario I see as most likely to play out (and I'm probably wrong) is they ditch the HSC thing, maybe pluck some ideas out of what they have leftover there, and make a somewhat all new 'party' record. I would hope it is the weirdest thing they have ever made.
Beasties#7fan
09-19-2011, 06:41 PM
I hope you're wrong. If nothing else they probably have material already recorded (like the aforementioned part 1) that they'd end up releasing.
Let's be real though, Yauch will make a comeback, and the beasties will be back out there doing their thing again some time soon. :cool:
MCAadROCKMiKEd7
09-19-2011, 10:57 PM
in fact, I think we'll see HSC pt 1 sooner than if we were waiting for a 'brand new' record.
the obvious reason being that it's already recorded (and likely mixed), but the other reason being that once (hopefully) Yauch is given the okay, the bboys are going to have alot of pent up live energy (not to mention a huge demand).
here are 3 (but surely not limited to 3) scenarios, once Yauch recovers:
1) an immediate tour (either standalone or delayed HSC pt 2 tour) to A)welcome Yauch back and to appease hungry fans, and/or B)to capitalize on the remaining heat of the HSC release (though this depends on how soon such a scenario were to play out, and such would probly inspire another single release to supplement the tour/album relationship).
2) a fast-tracked release of HSC pt 1 with a proper tour, to A)capitalize on their live absence and promote HSC pt 1 simultaneously, and/or B)to put the entire HSC era behind them and move forward into a newly inspired project to shake off the tribulations that plagued their last few years.
3) any combination of expediting HSC pt 1 for the mere sake of finishing out their contract with Capitol and enjoying the satisfaction of knowing their future will be both unrestricted and undefined from that point on. the freedom to record only if they want to, at their own pace, or not, if they don't.
I am surely blathering here, sorry.
Ah yes i'm very glad to have read that, makes excellent sense.
BUT, I'd just like to say that I don't see them going on an actual tour considering they have children (Yauchs daughter is older though and Adrock has no kids obviously.) But D's kids are still real little, and they all are married, D's and Adrocks wives both have commercial type careers they cant leave, I dont see how they could just relocate to any area :/
So if they went live I dont think itd be to wide of a tour, But Idk. I'm not trying to state this as fact just an opinion I could absolutely be very wrong.
Having pent up energy would make sense to, but they also might be content with finally settling down. Who knows.
What do you mean "facial nerve damage" thing? Is there an update on Yauch?
I hope you're wrong. If nothing else they probably have material already recorded (like the aforementioned part 1) that they'd end up releasing.
Let's be real though, Yauch will make a comeback, and the beasties will be back out there doing their thing again some time soon.
Fuck yeah let's hope that they have that good beastie mindset we all know and love <3
Brother McDuff
09-20-2011, 01:41 AM
The scenario I see as most likely to play out (and I'm probably wrong) is they ditch the HSC thing, maybe pluck some ideas out of what they have leftover there
I dig on this heavy. (y)
It's just like them to abandon something that's become stale to them, i.e. something like HSC pt 1. For all the better, I say. The fresher the material the better, plus that shit will find it's way out somehow, someway, someday anyhow. somethin to look forward to down the line.
I would hope it is the weirdest thing they have ever made.
imagine an all "introspective" bboy record. that'd be something. you're playin yourself if ya think they're not capable of pulling it off. and when I say "imagine", I really mean "imagine", in that I recognize the unlikeliness. I'm just sayin though.
ultimately, I'm interested to see (once again, in all hopes that Yauch beats his challenges) how his/their approach to music and the Beastie Boys in general reacts. whether the life-check inspires Yauch to spend more time on the family and/or movie thing, or if it provokes the group to immerse themselves back into their music with a rejuvenated perspective and energy. who knows.
keep on truckin, MCA. much love (y)
pesto pizza
09-20-2011, 02:57 AM
I think unlike lots of stars the beastie boys have never had a plan and never will,they probably as much as in the dark as we are.
I think that "facial nerve thing is true" thats why the tour is on hold.I think they only released HSCPT2 to please fans and straight away were all thinking about tours and HSCPT1 (myself included).
It shows no matter how much you give,people always want more.
fonky pizza
09-20-2011, 02:58 AM
I am still pretty much loving, supporting the album HSCP2, maybe because, in France, it's living the normal way, we get songs on radio, there's a cool little review in LYLO (little free mag where you get all the shows), 2 of my friends bought it(thanks to me:)!) and I think it's a poor decision not to put out a new single now, it would rock the place here for sure!(y)
Kid Presentable
09-20-2011, 04:54 AM
I think unlike lots of stars the beastie boys have never had a plan and never will,they probably as much as in the dark as we are.
I think that "facial nerve thing is true" thats why the tour is on hold.I think they only released HSCPT2 to please fans and straight away were all thinking about tours and HSCPT1 (myself included).
It shows no matter how much you give,people always want more.
Good post. (y)
pesto pizza
09-20-2011, 06:06 AM
thanks:)
Turchinator
09-20-2011, 09:41 AM
sorry, trying not to be cryptic or crossing personal boundaries, I am just calling it like I see it. there was an old thread I couldn't find, but it was based on this article.
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20090720/beastie-boy-adam-yauch-has-salivary-gland-cancer
all the mention of (potential) nerve damage is in that one.
also, on a personal note I have watched my dad deal with a droopy mouth since his similar parotid tumor surgery over a year ago. it is such a slow comeback and he still slurs his speech. it looks like a he had a stroke, kind of. there's the thing with the droopy eye, too.
keep in mind my dad's not a rapper and he's a year behind MCA in the recovery process.
when Yauch is strong enough for a comeback, I'm sure there will be an announcement to much fanfare.
that's why I gave my theory, I definitely see more studio time for this band.
JoLovesMCA
09-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Well if it’s any consolation, my friend who is an extreme practicing Buddhist saw Yauch just about two months ago. She said he looked a lot better and had gained weight. Nobody here was at the FFYR L.A. screening but he spoke there so I am assuming his voice wasn’t affected just as his doctor said it wouldn’t be. And I agree the Beastie Boys don’t have any set agenda and why should they? They already stated they are just gonna have to wait it out for Adam however long that takes.
And I am all for studio time or whatever makes them comfortable. Another single would be a waste IMO. I am sure we can find things to talk about, oops I mean argue about.:cool:
fonky pizza
09-20-2011, 11:00 AM
What?! It's trendy now not to support this album anymore?
Make Some Noise is playing on the radio right now!
We are not going at the same speed, I guess.
I think I'm gonna log off for a while cause it's getting depressing and finally listen to the vinyl(y)
JoLovesMCA
09-20-2011, 12:26 PM
What?! It's trendy now not to support this album anymore?
Make Some Noise is playing on the radio right now!
We are not going at the same speed, I guess.
I think I'm gonna log off for a while cause it's getting depressing and finally listen to the vinyl(y)
I still support it and I do want to see them eventually release more of the songs from this album, but why do that without a band?? We need a band man. I think folks are getting really restless but I say it’s gonna be okay! :D If they want to do some new songs on top of what we have already then why not?? They are artists and artists are always writing even between albums. Knowing them though they might just stick to what they have!
Brother McDuff
09-20-2011, 01:02 PM
I think they only released HSCPT2 to please fans and straight away were all thinking about tours and HSCPT1 (myself included).
It shows no matter how much you give,people always want more.
there's a large difference between wanting and demanding though. of course we all want more, we're super-fans, we'd take a new album every week if we could! but it's not like we're getting angry and needy about it (at least no one here that I've noticed). we're just fans, and certainly we recognize and fully appreciate the extent to which the bboys go for us.
it would be a sad day if we were no longer able to anticipate the future though, the next project, the next thing.
MCAadROCKMiKEd7
09-20-2011, 11:09 PM
I think unlike lots of stars the beastie boys have never had a plan and never will,they probably as much as in the dark as we are.
I think that "facial nerve thing is true" thats why the tour is on hold.I think they only released HSCPT2 to please fans and straight away were all thinking about tours and HSCPT1 (myself included).
It shows no matter how much you give,people always want more.
IMO fans showing interest in getting more is just because theyre a highly interested fan, I think thats a good thing.
DEMAND on the other hand is arrogant givin Yauchs situation especially.
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