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valvano
09-20-2011, 11:14 AM
First, lets consider that under Obama about 45% of the population pays no income taxes. I don't know what's fair about that since Obama says every body needs to pay their fair share, but we sure seem to have a lot of total deadbeats out there.

Now,new IRS data shows that in 2008 the top 1% of taxpayers paid 38% of the collections on income taxes while they represented only 20% of all income? That doesnt sound fair either.

Of course, this so called "Buffett" tax that Obama is talking about fails to distringuish that his secretary pays income taxes while most of Buffett's income is unearned income such as capital gains. But on the other side, Obama needs to create jobs. So he is going to encourage job creation by raising taxes on the income you earn from investing your capital????

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/20/irs-data-show-most-millionaires-pay-taxes-at-higher-rate-than-middle-class/.com/politics/2011/09/19/obama-yields-to-liberal-outcry-on-entitlement-reform/


The last thing I would like to add is Obama's comments that we can't cut our way out of this deficit. Both parties are to blame for the deficit. I dont understand how we can spend our way into this deficit, but we are not allowed to cut our way out of this deficit??? Wouldnt that be like eating your way to being 150lbs overweight, but not allowing yourself to starve that extra weight off?

Obama, the man with no business experience, trying to set an environment for job creation......

Burnout18
09-21-2011, 06:15 PM
45 percent of the population makes under the taxable amount? Christ. Thats horrible. I can't even fathom being that poor.

Bob
09-21-2011, 11:12 PM
if you taxed the bottom 45% of the population at the maximum tax rate that the top 10% gets taxed at (the theoretical rate, not the rate that they end up actually paying after their shrewd money management) how much tax revenue would that be?

you're clearly a fact-checking numbers guy so i feel comfortable asking you for this statistic

and hell, bonus question, how much money, on average, would the bottom 45% household have left over after this amount of tax

round down if you like

show your work please

HAL 9000
09-22-2011, 02:36 AM
That 45% figure sounds very high, are you including children and the retired in that? Do you know what the figure is for the actual workforce (maybe it is 45% that would be shocking) and do you know what it was before Obama got his evil commie hands on it?

valvano
09-22-2011, 10:28 AM
um, even Bill Clinton finds Obama's approach to the deficit to be "confusing"

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/22/bill_clinton_obamas_approach_to_the_deficit_is_a_l ittle_confusing.html

kaiser soze
09-22-2011, 11:19 AM
ahh 2008, what a great year for President Obama

wait a minute....

kaiser soze
09-22-2011, 06:59 PM
um, even Bill Clinton finds Obama's approach to the deficit to be "confusing"

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/22/bill_clinton_obamas_approach_to_the_deficit_is_a_l ittle_confusing.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/218231/20110922/bill-clinton-raising-taxes-won-t-work-bill-clinton-newsmax.htm

Headlines have been floating around various news Web sites that suggest former President Bill Clinton, the pride of the modern Democratic Party, has espoused views that would make every conservative pundit smile: President Obama should not raise taxes on the wealthy.

failvano