Eminem Shouts Out Beastie Boys in BET Awards 2011 Cypher

[Lex Diamonds]

http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/shady-2-0-eminem-slaughterhouse-yelawolf-bet-hip-hop-awards-2011-cypher/

[Micodin]

He killed it.

[Kid Presentable]

Thanks for posting this Paddy (y)

I've always wanted to find Budden corny but he kills pretty much every beat he's on

[abbott]

:)

[Tzar]

where the fuck is the audio coming from (website)?
nvm. fuckin adverts.

[cwdoom]

where the fuck is the audio coming from (website)?
nvm. fuckin adverts.

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/10/11/2011-bet-awards-cyphers-video/#more-165925

[jayjacobson16]

Awesome. I could tell how he was rhyming he was going to say Beastie Boys.

I just don't like Yelawolf though. His flow bugs me. It sounds like someone is turning is mic's volume up and down constantly in every song.

[JoLovesMCA]

I don't like Eminem as a rapper but that was still cool. (y)

Finally, Eminem destroyed the entire BET Cypher session with his diabolical raps. Slim Shady spits, “You’re about to see peace be destroyed / It’ll never be restored / When I unleash these beastly hordes on your CD stores / Wanna stop it? You gonna need a priest, at least three swords / A license to ill from the Beastie Boys (http://popcrush.com/tags/beastie-boys/), three Ouija boards / A squeegee and please be warned, don’t ask what the squeegee’s for.”
Game Over.
http://popcrush.com/eminem-shady-2-0-lyrically-killed-2011-bet-hip-hop-awards-cypher/

[camo]

That's the third cypher I've seen Yela Kill, he's growing on me.

[Kid Presentable]

Yela is average

[Lex Diamonds]

Yela is a classic case of technical ability over substance- like most underground rappers these days. His flow and rhymes are pretty decent but he's not saying anything worth listening to.

[Kid Presentable]

dude can tre flip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agu58IVL7IQ) though

[Micodin]

I'm 50/50 on Yela.

Dude steps up when it comes to cyphers.

Royce killed it with jokes.

Budden did his thing.

Em just keeps proving why he's the G.O.A.T.

[Kid Presentable]

I'm not one for national pride, but I think NZ has the better tre flips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmvqcH9Pnpc)

[Kid Presentable]

I'm 50/50 on Yela.

Dude steps up when it comes to cyphers.

Royce killed it with jokes.

Budden did his thing.

Em just keeps proving why he's the G.O.A.T.

In that cypher I thought Royce > Em. But at least Em wasn't doing the shouty flow

[Micodin]

In that cypher I thought Royce > Em. But at least Em wasn't doing the shouty flow

Disagree.

But agree to disagree.

[Kid Presentable]

I can't agree to that

[Micodin]

Disagree to disagree.

[beasties#1fan]

http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/shady-2-0-eminem-slaughterhouse-yelawolf-bet-hip-hop-awards-2011-cypher/
finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)

[Kid Presentable]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)

Racist

[MCScoobyT]

Em has always shouted out the Beasties and paid respect. Google it!

[Micodin]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)

Actually you uneducated dolt Em gave them a shout on his first record The Slim Shady LP.

Secondly, he respects the hip hop forefathers and has gone on record and said he would never diss the Beastie Boys.

Thirdly, Em and Dre did a track paying homage to Paul Revere.


Know what's coming out of your mouth before you spew lies and bullshit around.

Racist.

[Micodin]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that.

Actually DJ Flash of the Rappers Rapp Group was the first white rapper.

Go do your fucking homework and then kick knowledge.

[jayjacobson16]

When I listen to their music I don't hear white skin nor do I care about the skin color. Beastie Boys/Eminem are rappers/mcs. They aren't white rappers until you decide to add the fact that their skin is white which has nothing to do with music or rap in any way except to people who are overly conscious of race/skin tone and apply it to everything.

[Kid Presentable]

haha wow I was just joking around.

[beasties#1fan]

Actually DJ Flash of the Rappers Rapp Group was the first white rapper.

Go do your fucking homework and then kick knowledge.
you just love drama don't you!
your the one who needs to think before you totally bash and criticize people on the board, we aren't commenting on here for you to just cuss us out.
thanks

[beasties#1fan]

haha wow I was just joking around.

I know!!! People take things to the fucking extreme on this board..... It's like chiiiiiiillllllllllllllll.
Hahaha it's so annoying.

[Micodin]

to the fucking extreme

That was actually Vanilla Ice's first LP title.

[beasties#1fan]

That was actually Vanilla Ice's first LP title.

Coooooool beans.......

[Micodin]

Hi Rihanna.

[beasties#1fan]

Hi Rihanna.
huh?

[Micodin]

I'll be a horrible magician because I'll fuck a trick up!

[Junker]

Vanilla Ice Ice Baby!

Nothing to do with anything i know.. but I've read his name in the previous post and these words came to mind!

Btw, is it true that he's dead? I mean, literally, not artistically...

[camo]

Yela is a classic case of technical ability over substance- like most underground rappers these days. His flow and rhymes are pretty decent but he's not saying anything worth listening to.

Yeah I agree with that. But lets reassess when Radioactive drops. You bring pizza, I'll bring the beer and we'll chat yeah? x

[Planetary]

the drake/sprite advert is disgusting.

[Kid Presentable]

Drake having a career is disgusting.

[carlson.213]

Drake having a career is disgusting.

Im glad to read that others find this dude annoying. his music, voice, and attitude make me want to throw up every time I hear him. his dissing of larry bird in that b-ball game advert was the cherry on top.

[pm0ney]

Im glad to read that others find this dude annoying. his music, voice, and attitude make me want to throw up every time I hear him. his dissing of larry bird in that b-ball game advert was the cherry on top.

Its not only that... He's saying the Miami Heat, who couldn't get out of their own way in the finals, are a better team than the 1996 Chicago Bulls? Are you kidding me? Go back to Degrassi.

[Kid Presentable]

Im glad to read that others find this dude annoying. his music, voice, and attitude make me want to throw up every time I hear him. his dissing of larry bird in that b-ball game advert was the cherry on top.

He's just out and out wack. Like no redeeming qualities at all as an MC, human, whatever. smh @ Aubrey

[camo]

Drake having a career is disgusting.

Haha, I just spat out my breakfast laughing (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

People catching feelings over Drake = Lil Wayne winning

He's an actor playing a part designed to provoke reactions like those above. Don't trip like he doesn't know he's not real.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)

Actually, her knowledge hip hop is pretty good for a white person.

[Micodin]

Actually, her knowledge hip hop is pretty good for a white person.

Zing!

[beasties#1fan]

Zing!
So your signature is real cute! i guess i should have rephrased my wordage and said 'first GREAT white rappers'.
gosssshhhh. annoying AF.

[beasties#1fan]

Actually, her knowledge hip hop is pretty good for a white person.
:D

[carlson.213]

I have no idea what these things mean:


"People catching feelings over Drake = Lil Wayne winning"

and

"annoying AF"

[beasties#1fan]

I have no idea what these things mean:


"People catching feelings over Drake = Lil Wayne winning"

and

"annoying AF"


i dont get the first one either...:/
but AF, means 'as fuck'. its kind of a new thing. i guess you could say my generation:cool:

[alleyezonme6198]

i dont get the first one either...:/
but AF, means 'as fuck'. its kind of a new thing. i guess you could say my generation:cool:

AF? As Fuck? Really? Some of the short cuts I can get such as OMFG but AF? GMAFB (Give Me A Fucking Break).

[Kid Presentable]

W, I f f t f i k a j t s e. W h t d t p?

[alleyezonme6198]

W, I f f t f i k a j t s e. W h t d t p?

I feel the same way, i just wonder if we can all live up to the hype.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)


He gave a shout out to them when he won his first Grammy or MTV award. I don't remember which award, but he defiantly thanked them.

Also on the Slim Shady ep he calls himself Mike D in a lyric and I think he thanks them in the credits.

I'm Em's biggest fan by any means, but I do know the guy has skills and he has definitely shown his respect.

[pm0ney]

My opinion on Eminem is that he's an extremely talented wordsmith and an extremely talented rapper who makes -in general- bad music. I was a big fan of his first two albums when he really blew up, but even they have aged pretty badly. His talent and audacity early in his career are enough to warrant his massive success, I think. But the shit that he releases now that gets played on z100 and KTU? No way, man. I cant dig any of that shit. Its pop music.

[Lex Diamonds]

He gave a shout out to them when he won his first Grammy or MTV award. I don't remember which award, but he defiantly thanked them.

Also on the Slim Shady ep he calls himself Mike D in a lyric and I think he thanks them in the credits.

I'm Em's biggest fan by any means, but I do know the guy has skills and he has definitely shown his respect.
He also went to their dressing room at an awards event to personally thank them for their inspiration- he left in tears because they were all laughing about an in-joke when he was in the room and he thought they were laughing at him.

[Lex Diamonds]

Basically they Joe Budden-ed him.

[Kid Presentable]

And he Aubrey-ed outta there.

[Lex Diamonds]

And he's Wiz Khalifa-ed interviewers about it ever since.

[Kid Presentable]

hahaaaa shot

[Micodin]

He also went to their dressing room at an awards event to personally thank them for their inspiration- he left in tears because they were all laughing about an in-joke when he was in the room and he thought they were laughing at him.

Kind of close. But not how it really went down.

The Beasties were on TRL to promote TT5B and Eminem was there to perform with D12.

Eminem stopped in their dressing room to meet them and said "your still doing it" which I guss a lot of press and the like had been saying to them the entire press for the album. They laughed, Em was confused and peaced out.

But your version is good too...

[Kid Presentable]

Kind of close. But not how it really went down.

The Beasties were on TRL to promote TT5B and Eminem was there to perform with D12.

Eminem stopped in their dressing room to meet them and said "your still doing it" which I guss a lot of press and the like had been saying to them the entire press for the album. They laughed, Em was confused and peaced out.

But your version is good too...

UH UH it was "Still doing it, huh?"

Remember?

[Micodin]

UH UH it was "Still doing it, huh?"

Remember?

You are correct, Sir!

[Kid Presentable]

*sucks teeth*

[Lex Diamonds]

You are correct, Sir!
I knew the actual details I was just making the story more readable. Some of us have that gift.

You on the other hand got it totally wrong. What does being a nerdy douchebag feel like?

[Kid Presentable]

You'd like it, P.

[Micodin]

I knew the actual details I was just making the story more readable. Some of us have that gift.

You on the other hand got it totally wrong. What does being a nerdy douchebag feel like?

The only gift you have is your amazing gag reflex.

[beasties#1fan]

What does being a nerdy douchebag feel like?

Nailed it!!(y):)

[Porkys1982#1fan]

finally he gives a shout out to the beasties, i mean, they were the first white rappers, and people need to realize that. Most people nowadays think Eminem is the best white rapper ever, and he even beat the bboys on the Vh1s top 100 artists, in my opinion thats ridiculous. i've never liked him, people give him more credit than the bboys, and it pisses me off!:mad:(n)

One shouldn't attempt to argue about something they know little to nothing about.

In other words, keep your ignorant statements to yourself.

Or at least google it!

[Micodin]

One shouldn't attempt to argue about something they know little to nothing about.

In other words, keep your ignorant statements to yourself.

Or at least google it!

Boom!

[Micodin]

Nailed it!!(y):)

Oh yeah...

That's what she said.

Heh. I love this board.

[Brother McDuff]

My opinion on Eminem is that he's an extremely talented wordsmith and an extremely talented rapper who makes -in general- bad music. I was a big fan of his first two albums when he really blew up, but even they have aged pretty badly. His talent and audacity early in his career are enough to warrant his massive success, I think. But the shit that he releases now that gets played on z100 and KTU? No way, man. I cant dig any of that shit. Its pop music.

nail on the head, P$, nail on the head. (y)

[Kid Presentable]

My opinion on Eminem is that he's an extremely talented wordsmith and an extremely talented rapper who makes -in general- bad music. I was a big fan of his first two albums when he really blew up, but even they have aged pretty badly. His talent and audacity early in his career are enough to warrant his massive success, I think. But the shit that he releases now that gets played on z100 and KTU? No way, man. I cant dig any of that shit. Its pop music.

Fair enough. His new shit is pretty lame, but there are moments here and there. And the topic isn't his music, it's his spitting in the cypher. And that was incredible.

In fact, most times he gets at a beat, he demolishes it. For me that carries much more weight in judging his influence and skills than the actual music he releases, if only because he's simply that good as an MC that he makes his own garbage output irrelevant.

He's probably the best rapper living.

[Micodin]

He's probably the best rapper living.

I would say that's spot on.

[Kid Presentable]

I would say that's spot on.

I mean, the challenge is seeing past the bullshit music he has made. Listen to the second half of that cypher verse, it's pretty incredible. Yes I think Royce was more entertaining, but Em has dropped numerous feature verses and freestyles which are of such a high calibre...well, you get the point.

Compare him to a group like the Beastie Boys, obviously their strength is in their ability to be entertaining and just make music that feels right. It's a whole different thing, much more tacit.

[Micodin]

Agreed. He can make some corny pop songs but also murder beats like no one else.

Check out his last two Westwood freestyles. The kid is zoned out.

[Brother McDuff]

straight up artistry 'in the raw' and the ability to create a 'piece of art' are two very different things', though equally significant and vital.

it's the whole 'live art' vs 'crafted art' balance. spontaneity vs manipulation. eminem will never record a piece of work like a Bboy record (IMO), just as the Bboys will never tout the natural lyrical prowess that Eminem yields (IMO). but both skills are divine nonetheless. it's the varying balance between the innate and contrived within any given artist that really chisels there own individuality. some are purely one or the other, but most straddle a personalized line somewhere in between.

music is great, isn't it?(y)

[Micodin]

music is great, isn't it?(y)

Truth.

[jayjacobson16]

music is great, isn't it?(y)

Forget music man. I'm into crack now. It's dope y'all.

[sab0tage]

Well said (y)

straight up artistry 'in the raw' and the ability to create a 'piece of art' are two very different things', though equally significant and vital.

it's the whole 'live art' vs 'crafted art' balance. spontaneity vs manipulation. eminem will never record a piece of work like a Bboy record (IMO), just as the Bboys will never tout the natural lyrical prowess that Eminem yields (IMO). but both skills are divine nonetheless. it's the varying balance between the innate and contrived within any given artist that really chisels there own individuality. some are purely one or the other, but most straddle a personalized line somewhere in between.

music is great, isn't it?(y)

[JoLovesMCA]

I won’t say I don’t think Eminem isn’t talented because I’d be crucified for that one and anyway I do think he is a great lyricist… it’s just his voice I don’t like. It always reminded me of Fran Drescher. I guess I am just all about the voice and I know that I am in the minority. Oh well.

[jayjacobson16]

It always reminded me of Fran Drescher. I guess I am just all about the voice and I know that I am in the minority. Oh well.

His old voice or his current voice?

[JoLovesMCA]

His old voice or his current voice?

Honestly hadn’t noticed a change since I rarely listen to him. I know the experts say his old music is better and I agree to some extent.... but as an artist I just don’t think he’s evolved all that much. Yeah he moves on with the times and I guess that’s why he’s so successful in the mainstream… I can’t say I like only the lighter side of hip hop because I am a fan of Tupac, Cypress Hill and grew up listening to the Ghetto Boys. Their lyrics were violent but I loved THEM!!! So anyway I am rambling, I just hate the dude’s voice!

[jayjacobson16]

Honestly hadn’t noticed a change since I rarely listen to him. I’ve I know the experts say his old music is better and I agree to some extent but as an artist I don’t think he’s evolved all that much. He moves on with the times and I guess that’s why he’s so successful in the mainstream still… I can’t say I like only the lighter side of hip hop because I am a fan of Tupac, Cypress Hill and grew up listening to the Ghetto Boys. Their lyrics were violent but I loved THEM!!! So anyway I am rambling, I just hate the dude’s voice!

I mean cause his old voice was extremely high pitch and then after a little while it became deeper. Now it's deeper than ever.

[JoLovesMCA]

I mean cause his old voice was extremely high pitch and then after a little while it became deeper. Now it's deeper than ever.

Not as deep as MCA's........ :p couldn't resist.

I hear you though. I know as an artist gets older their voice or vocal range can get better if they take care of it.
I am just ready to see hip hop expand a little. It use to be so diverse and for the past several years it’s all the same. Everybody walks to the beat of the same drum. I get bored with it. I think that’s why I prefer such old school because there is that experimentation with sounds and things like that. But that’s another topic! ;)

Anyway Eminem appreciates the Beasties so I try not to be too critical but I was just never a fan.

[Brother McDuff]

Forget music man. I'm into crack now. It's dope y'all.

:D I've heard good things...

[jayjacobson16]

:D I've heard good things...

Hail Geah!

[bigfatlove06]

cosign on best rapper alive. I don't care to dissect the minute details of why I say this because I can't defend it (nor do I care to). Suffice it to say IMHO he rocks it better than anyone I have ever heard.

[Chrisco83]

Em's albums are all pretty weak/pop other than his first and parts of his second like most of you have said. But his underground battles/ freestyles disses are probably the best lyrically and creatively ive ever heard. i cant stand his albums, but am always amazed at how sick his battle rhymes are, especially soon after he came out when he was beefing with that bitch ass benzino. the stuff he says is hilarious, plus it flows so well and its super hardcore dissing. if i were a rapper i would not want to battle him because he is just gonna make a fool of you no matter who you are.

[Chrisco83]

idk if any of you saw bet's top 10 mc's of the 21st century,but it was all bullshit except Em did get number 1 of lil gayne. there were a few nice rappers in that list but drake was like number 7, if he is any list its bs.

[jayjacobson16]

idk if any of you saw bet's top 10 mc's of the 21st century,but it was all bullshit except Em did get number 1 of lil gayne. there were a few nice rappers in that list but drake was like number 7, if he is any list its bs.

lol. Drake, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Ludacris, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, 50 CENT and TI???!! Eminem is the greatest rapper and lyracist ever but the rest suck ejaculating penis. I wonder how many people with high IQs agree with this list.

[Brother McDuff]

lol. Drake, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Ludacris, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, 50 CENT and TI???!!


ugh, this makes me so angry. I know it shouldn't, but these lists are such shit. it's like erasing the legacy of hip-hop from the chalkboard for young fans. I know these television producers are simply trying to "reach" the youthful audience, but what the fuck!?! what message are they giving out? that bad rap is good rap? fuckin whores.:mad:

[pm0ney]

I mean, the challenge is seeing past the bullshit music he has made. Listen to the second half of that cypher verse, it's pretty incredible. Yes I think Royce was more entertaining, but Em has dropped numerous feature verses and freestyles which are of such a high calibre...well, you get the point.

Compare him to a group like the Beastie Boys, obviously their strength is in their ability to be entertaining and just make music that feels right. It's a whole different thing, much more tacit.

Fair enough, which is why I prefaced my statement by stating how talented I think he is. In general though, I'm a bigger fan of recorded music than I am of cyphers and battles. Chuck D has openly stated he never battled/freestyled/what-have-you, but I'd take him over Eminem any day.

[Kid Presentable]

It's a funny thought that responsible parenting will include teaching one's kids about good hip-hop. (y)

[cj hood]

He's probably the best rapper living.

did Rakim die?

[Kid Presentable]

did Rakim die?

His spark did.

[smith7800]

His spark did.

Haha. Booya

[pm0ney]

Most great rappers are still alive. Kid's right though, Eminem still has the skrillz to pay the thrillz.

[smith7800]

Kid's also right that most great rappers have lost their spark. The Beasties are kind of a different thing though. They are great entertainers... MC's as they like to say.

[Brother McDuff]

Most great rappers are still alive. Kid's right though, Eminem still has the skrillz to pay the thrillz.


well, he's got the humility to play the pop game. that's something I don't think Rakim is too interested in. I can respect both sides of that coin, though I'd be far more inclined to cue up a Rakim record than an Eminem one anyday. that's just me though.

[pm0ney]

well, he's got the humility to play the pop game. that's something I don't think Rakim is too interested in. I can respect both sides of that coin, though I'd be far more inclined to cue up a Rakim record than an Eminem one anyday. that's just me though.

Agreed.

[RudimentalDave]

This is sweet.

[MCAadROCKMiKEd7]

This reminded me, (This isnt against Eminem personally) The other day I was with my old brother (20) and his best friend (19) and his friend said "Eminem and Paul Wall are the two top best white rappers we've ever had." and my brother comes back with "I absolutely disagree with that." His friend was pretty confident he was right so my brother had to say "Paul Wall is a joke, how about the beastie boys?" etc, and sat there and spread it all out for his buddy, many details of the beastie boys career, how he's seen their lyrics be stolen by bunk ass rappers, it was satisfying to see.

[Lex Diamonds]

This reminded me, (This isnt against Eminem personally) The other day I was with my old brother (20) and his best friend (19) and his friend said "Eminem and Paul Wall are the two top best white rappers we've ever had." and my brother comes back with "I absolutely disagree with that." His friend was pretty confident he was right so my brother had to say "Paul Wall is a joke, how about the beastie boys?" etc, and sat there and spread it all out for his buddy, many details of the beastie boys career, how he's seen their lyrics be stolen by bunk ass rappers, it was satisfying to see.
To be fair I don't think B-Boys lyrics are tech enough to be stolen per se, when they're repeated by "bunk ass rappers" (ie Redman, Xzibit, Weezy) it's generally in homage.

[carlson.213]

This reminded me, (This isnt against Eminem personally) The other day I was with my old brother (20) and his best friend (19) and his friend said "Eminem and Paul Wall are the two top best white rappers we've ever had." and my brother comes back with "I absolutely disagree with that." His friend was pretty confident he was right so my brother had to say "Paul Wall is a joke, how about the beastie boys?" etc, and sat there and spread it all out for his buddy, many details of the beastie boys career, how he's seen their lyrics be stolen by bunk ass rappers, it was satisfying to see.

this is the first time i have seen paul wall brought up in here. i have recently become a fan of his after ignoring his stuff for so long because of all the pop tunes he does put out. he does have a few decent tracks that kill.

ive noticed that he has brought back that analogy fused rhyme routine that seems to be fading out.

also, i have never been a fan of lil wayne but did anyone agree that the intro, interlude and outro to his latest album featuring bun b, tech nine, nas, and outkast were off the hook?

[MCAadROCKMiKEd7]

To be fair I don't think B-Boys lyrics are tech enough to be stolen per se, when they're repeated by "bunk ass rappers" (ie Redman, Xzibit, Weezy) it's generally in homage.

Weezy used the line "Three the hard way" in one of his songs thats all I know for sure of.

this is the first time i have seen paul wall brought up in here. i have recently become a fan of his after ignoring his stuff for so long because of all the pop tunes he does put out. he does have a few decent tracks that kill.

ive noticed that he has brought back that analogy fused rhyme routine that seems to be fading out.

also, i have never been a fan of lil wayne but did anyone agree that the intro, interlude and outro to his latest album featuring bun b, tech nine, nas, and outkast were off the hook?



I just hate waynes rhymes, he alters words to rhyme with the next one, and makes raps that even I could sit down and write and rap (as a drunk ass mofucka) I like Nas and Outkast a lot, Tech n9ne is decent I was a huge fan bout 2 years ago, I like how he is a little harder type music hes an angry fella hahaha. After waynes VMA autotune microphone fake guitar playing act I was just in shock how shitty he sunk right then.

As for Paul Wall, I agree with that last part. Also, I do have respect for white rappers in general, but I personally dont think he's true talent honestly, but I kind of have some faith that he could step it up a little bit, stop with the ghetto rap lines and throw out somethin from the heart type thing.

The kid arguing about Eminem didnt even know what Eminem stood for, that was one of those instantly out of breath hunched over in pain laughs that I got when he said that (I was extremely stoned, but I am a lot so it's not like how it used to be I dont get all stupid and shit) I couldnt help but laugh. He's like family to me though so he didnt get mad.

[cj hood]

Weezy used the line "Three the hard way" in one of his songs thats all I know for sure of.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_the_Hard_Way_(film)

"the next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught"

[dave790]

well, he's got the humility to play the pop game. that's something I don't think Rakim is too interested in. I can respect both sides of that coin, though I'd be far more inclined to cue up a Rakim record than an Eminem one anyday. that's just me though.

yeah. on the one hand his skills are undoubted. on the other there is 'just lose it.'

[MCAadROCKMiKEd7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_the_Hard_Way_(film)

"the next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught"

Alrighty then

[JoLovesMCA]

I finally put on the radio and realized that it was Eminem rapping on that "room full of lighters." Or is it sky? Anyway it was horrid! The song overall was bad with or without him, but I honestly can't see myself ever spending my money on his music because I don't like that god awful club music pop people that he is collaborating with.

My question is, is there any of his songs mainstream on the radio that is just "him" and no collaborations. Just curious.

And to add. Maybe it's not just about him. Maybe it's the fact that everybody has to collaborate with a POP artist to get attention. Look it's no secret I am a pop dance fan but too much of it makes my ears bleed. I like diversity. That's a different subject though.

I wonder what rapper will work with Katy Perry next. Hmmm.

[alleyezonme6198]

I finally put on the radio and realized that it was Eminem rapping on that "room full of lighters." Or is it sky? Anyway it was horrid! The song overall was bad with or without him, but I honestly can't see myself ever spending my money on his music because I don't like that god awful club music pop people that he is collaborating with.

My question is, is there any of his songs mainstream on the radio that is just "him" and no collaborations. Just curious.

And to add. Maybe it's not just about him. Maybe it's the fact that everybody has to collaborate with a POP artist to get attention. Look it's no secret I am a pop dance fan but too much of it makes my ears bleed. I like diversity. That's a different subject though.

I wonder what rapper will work with Katy Perry next. Hmmm.

I know I have heard "Not Afraid" on the radio and through out his career he has had tracks on the radio with only him on them. I like Em but his radio songs are shit. I can think of "Without Me" then "Cleaning out my Closet" and Im sure there is more. I only find 3 of his albums entertaining. Infinite, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP.

[JoLovesMCA]

I know I have heard "Not Afraid" on the radio and through out his career he has had tracks on the radio with only him on them. I like Em but his radio songs are shit. I can think of "Without Me" then "Cleaning out my Closet" and Im sure there is more. I only find 3 of his albums entertaining. Infinite, The Slim Shady LP, and The Marshall Mathers LP.

Oh okay I remember those. Actually I forgot I did like the song he did with Dido but she wasn't overbearing the way Rihanna and Mars are. I think.... like I said pop music dominates everything and I would really like a seperation every once in awhile.

Beastie Boys went for Santigold I think because she is unique and different. I appreciate that.

[fonky pizza]

"the next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught"

that's just awesome(y)

[3stooges]

This is pretty cool. They call it a cypher, it's not really a cypher though, they're all written raps.....anyway all those guys can really rap though. I wish they had changed up the beat once or twice. What is Premier doing in there anyway ? It's just for looks right ? I mean the beat's probably playing off a hard drive or something. That's why Eminem walked up to one of the guys and was like "hold up, don't come in yet," right ? Those guys are all rapping nice though.

As far as Eminem, he is great with the battle raps and the freestyling. He is probably one of the best there is if not the best. Technically. But as far as being a recording artist that raps, and a songwriter....you know what I mean, leaving us with something that's going to stand the test of time, like all great artists, whether they are from jazz or classical or rock or hip hop or whatever.....I mean he has some great songs, but then he does undeniably have a lot of pretty lame shit. Just totally commercial trash. I mean dude is like a multi-millionaire already, he doesn't need the money, so he's just doing it out of greed. It's a sellout. Now that is his prerogative. Some people go work in a corporate office. Eminem, he puts out corporate music. He's willing to do it to make a lot of money. However, if he were really sincere about his art, he wouldn't put this crap out. He'd be overwhelmed by feelings of shame and nausea, which would prevent him from even being able to make that kind of music. I guess it is just that he is just not as much of an artist, and more a technician.

It's not unlike these guitar players like Satriani and Steve Vai and Eric Johnson, or any musician that is really known for just ripping on their instrument. But then they really don't have any really good songs. And their fans are all guitar players. The whole battling/freestyling thing is kind of like that. Kinda one dimensional. Don't get me wrong I have respect for the skill and ability, but I can never appreciate that sort of thing as much as something like Stevie Wonder, or the Beatles, or....well I don't want to drop names all day...

[Micodin]

What is Premier doing in there anyway ? It's just for looks right ?

He's DJ Premier. He can be anywhere he fucking wants to be!

[Lex Diamonds]

Cypher (cipher) means 0 which = a circle. As a result cypher is used in hip-hop to describe a "circle" or small group of heads sharing knowledge, thoughts or just plain old technical MCing skills.

[3stooges]

Cypher (cipher) means 0 which = a circle. As a result cypher is used in hip-hop to describe a "circle" or small group of heads sharing knowledge, thoughts or just plain old technical MCing skills.

Well the Eminem thing, I guess they can call it a cypher, but to me it's not. It's a performance. It's written and rehearsed, and they all wrote everything separately, instead of building as a group.

[Lex Diamonds]

Well the Eminem thing, I guess they can call it a cypher, but to me it's not. It's a performance. It's written and rehearsed, and they all wrote everything separately, instead of building as a group.
None of the things you mentioned have any bearing whatsoever on what is and isn't a cypher.

[3stooges]

None of the things you mentioned have any bearing whatsoever on what is and isn't a cypher.

Heh, you sound like you're referencing some official rule book or something. I'm just going off my experience. We'll leave it at that, you have your take I have mine.

[Micodin]

It's really not that hard of a concept to understand.

A Freestyle is kicking rhymes off the top of your head, not rehearsed or previously written.

A Cypher contains people kicking rhymes. They can be previously written, freestyle, or using parts of other peoples rhymes. It's just everyone participating rhyming for fun.

I'm not sure how you can't understand it...

[abbott]

It's a funny thought that responsible parenting will include teaching one's kids about good hip-hop. (y)

any parent who gets their kids into hip hope must be crazy, especially if they have girls.

[beasties#1fan]

It's really not that hard of a concept to understand.

A Freestyle is kicking rhymes off the top of your head, not rehearsed or previously written.

A Cypher contains people kicking rhymes. They can be previously written, freestyle, or using parts of other peoples rhymes. It's just everyone participating rhyming for fun.

I'm not sure how you can't understand it...

you are just a sweetie aren't you! (y)

[Micodin]

you are just a sweetie aren't you! (y)

Cheers!

[beasties#1fan]

Cheers!
:)

[camo]

I'm so happy for the both of you x

[beasties#1fan]

I'm so happy for the both of you x
D:

[Micodin]

I'm so happy for the both of you x

I'll give her a second chance.

I'm cool with her.

[beasties#1fan]

I'll give her a second chance.

I'm cool with her.
hahaha, are you being sarcastic!?

[Micodin]

hahaha, are you being sarcastic!?

Nope.

All serious on this side.

[beasties#1fan]

Nope.

All serious on this side.
hey i like your sig :p;)

[Micodin]

hey i like your sig :p;)

Thanks!

I was inspired. I like us getting along.

[jayjacobson16]

Did you guys know? The sun sets in the west and the fun get's best!

[beasties#1fan]

Thanks!

I was inspired. I like us getting along.
it is quite a memorable moment on this message board...:o

[SoundScientist]

Im glad to read that others find this dude annoying. his music, voice, and attitude make me want to throw up every time I hear him. his dissing of larry bird in that b-ball game advert was the cherry on top.

Yeah as far as I'm concerned Drake can eat a can of botulism.
That being said...was drake in that cypher? I didn't see it.
Whats with the weird Rhianna shout-outs?

Also...anyone hear the Plug-One Shout-out?

[SoundScientist]

ugh, this makes me so angry. I know it shouldn't, but these lists are such shit. it's like erasing the legacy of hip-hop from the chalkboard for young fans. I know these television producers are simply trying to "reach" the youthful audience, but what the fuck!?! what message are they giving out? that bad rap is good rap? fuckin whores.:mad:

Thank you kind sir.
This shit really makes me mad. What were they rating? The best rappers in the last 3 months based on sales? Drake doesn't belong on ANY hip hop list ever. 50 cent? sorry...he can't rap, he talks with an occasional rhyme. This shit makes me sick.

[Micodin]

Drake wasn't in the cypher. He can't do rhymes without reading them off his blackberry.

The Hi Rihanna was Royce da 5'9 being his normal witty self.

[3stooges]

It's really not that hard of a concept to understand.

A Freestyle is kicking rhymes off the top of your head, not rehearsed or previously written.

A Cypher contains people kicking rhymes. They can be previously written, freestyle, or using parts of other peoples rhymes. It's just everyone participating rhyming for fun.

I'm not sure how you can't understand it...

For me what's missing in that tv segment is the core experience of being in a cypher, which is having a conversation. Spoken or rhymed or whatever, there's dialogue, interaction. The next person to speak or rhyme picks up on what the last person was saying and builds off it. It doesn't mean people aren't doing writtens but there's usually some feedback going back and forth beyond just a pound or a head nod.

[Micodin]

For me what's missing in that tv segment is the core experience of being in a cypher, which is having a conversation. Spoken or rhymed or whatever, there's dialogue, interaction. The next person to speak or rhyme picks up on what the last person was saying and builds off it. It doesn't mean people aren't doing writtens but there's usually some feedback going back and forth beyond just a pound or a head nod.

I'm not sure what you were watching, but they were horsing around the entire time. Pushing each other, giving daps to each other. Em joking around while introducing the next MC.

Besides, it's a cypher for the BET Awards Show. Not on the corner or lunchroom. Get over it.