Steve Jobs to Obama : You are an idiot

[valvano]

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/book-steve-jobs-annoyed-obama-during-meeting

Can't wait to read this bio when it comes out.

[Turchinator]

"you are headed for a one-term presidency" is quite different than "you are an idiot"

I cant wait to read it either, but I cant wait more for Jobs' prediction to fail.

[valvano]

"you are headed for a one-term presidency" is quite different than "you are an idiot"

I cant wait to read it either, but I cant wait more for Jobs' prediction to fail.

so that mean you want the teachers unions to continue to strangle education and beat back new ideas and innovations? and continued govt regulations to drive american industry to china and other countries?

for as a left leaner like jobs was, he had no problem seeing the hand writing on the wall. and i say that as a mac user whose performa 575 is still in working order, though a little dusty.

[Adam]

Steve Jobs was a ruthless far right GOP voting wanker. He didn't believe in any sort of charity work, running a democracy in the work place or having time for anyone who disagrees with him. He was greedy and a workaholic.

Yes, Apple are massive and done some amazing things - but so is and does China.

Just sayin'.

Not read the article either, as the title pretty much says it all. But if america was run like Apple - give me a thousand George Bush's any day.

[Echewta]

If you mean government regulations like min. wage and proper safety conditions, let the unamerican companies who care only about the bottom line do business outside. I'm proud we have rules here.

[valvano]

1. How do you know Steve Jobs did not believe in charity work? Because he didnt publicize it to the world? Maybe he did his charity through private channels? Often time charity is a private matter, whether you give financially or your time. And even he did no charity, what does that mean, he's an evil man? Are you saying that if Hitler had survived the bunker and spent 20 years working in a soup kitchen and raising money for Green Peace it would have been "all good"?

2. Jobs and Woz created a billion dollar empire from a garage. Obama has never had to know the pressure as a business owner struggling to meet payroll, much less known what it was like to work "for the man'. I'd take Steve Job's business advise any day over anything Obama has to say about growing jobs.

Apple is a public corporation. Kind of hard to run a govt like a public corporation. But if it did, I'm sure they'd get rid of the massive waste and govt overlap that rules DC and truly be accountable to taxpayers like they are to share holders. And I sure didnt see any venture capitalists ready to jump on the Solyndra band wagon like Obama did with half a billion tax dollars.

Maybe govt should be more like private enterprise?

[valvano]

If you mean government regulations like min. wage and proper safety conditions, let the unamerican companies who care only about the bottom line do business outside. I'm proud we have rules here.

companies are in business to make a profit, not make you have a happy face. when you have govt board dictating whether a company can relocate a product line from one state to another because the unions are unhappy , then i'd say they've gone overboard.

[Schmeltz]

There was nothing left-wing about Steve Jobs (http://socialistworker.org/2010/08/17/baddest-apple-of-the-bunch), valvano. You only think there was because you're such a corporate fascist fucknut that you make Josef Goebbels look like Noam Chomsky.

[Echewta]

Yes, for profit. Which is why its about wages and benefits. American will always have a min wage, regardless of the unions. Which means, American companies will do business overseas where it is cheaper. Which gives them a happy face. And not American workers.

[yeahwho]

companies are in business to make a profit, not make you have a happy face. when you have govt board dictating whether a company can relocate a product line from one state to another because the unions are unhappy , then i'd say they've gone overboard.

That's none of your business. Right?

[kaiser soze]

so that mean you want the teachers unions to continue to strangle education and beat back new ideas and innovations? and continued govt regulations to drive american industry to china and other countries?

for as a left leaner like jobs was, he had no problem seeing the hand writing on the wall. and i say that as a mac user whose performa 575 is still in working order, though a little dusty.

huh - you don't know many teachers then, most I know say the Bureaucrats running the school districts choke out innovation and new ideas

[valvano]

huh - you don't know many teachers then, most I know say the Bureaucrats running the school districts choke out innovation and new ideas

watch the movie "Waiting or Superman" ,

you are a complete dipshit. of course teachers are going to blame bureaucrats, unionized workers always hate management.

[valvano]

That's none of your business. Right?

no its not. and its not any of your business.

[yeahwho]

watch the movie "Waiting or Superman" ,

you are a complete dipshit. of course teachers are going to blame bureaucrats, unionized workers always hate management.

So if a person has a union job it is your business? I'm confused. Someone who is in charge of labor and which country/conditions/product quality, someone with that sort of position we should let be to do as that person pleases? No consequence for CEO's?

Yet the statistically dwindling union jobs are all of our business? Should we let elected officials dictate with corporations how we live? That is none of our business?

Your becoming complicated, I thought it was a two way street where the worker and the employer were equal, but apparently I will be picking on the middle class and union workers. Their wages are our business.

So let the CEO's and the shareholders be, get vocal about union workers wages.

Occupy Teamsters Halls?

[kaiser soze]

no vulvana - you are the complete dipshit

please tell us, what's a CEO's cock taste like?

[valvano]

So if a person has a union job it is your business? I'm confused. Someone who is in charge of labor and which country/conditions/product quality, someone with that sort of position we should let be to do as that person pleases? No consequence for CEO's?

Yet the statistically dwindling union jobs are all of our business? Should we let elected officials dictate with corporations how we live? That is none of our business?

Your becoming complicated, I thought it was a two way street where the worker and the employer were equal, but apparently I will be picking on the middle class and union workers. Their wages are our business.

So let the CEO's and the shareholders be, get vocal about union workers wages.

Occupy Teamsters Halls?


unionized public employees are the taxpayers business.

[valvano]

no vulvana - you are the complete dipshit

please tell us, what's a CEO's cock taste like?

nice mature response. go play with the other children at the occupation rallies now.

[kaiser soze]

you are a complete dipshit

you sure know about those mature responses eh?

[yeahwho]

unionized public employees are the taxpayers business.

Wait a minute, you referenced a corporation moving out of our country due to unions. In your vision that is our business?

The signal your sending me is organized labor is our business. Or perhaps working class jobs with benefits are our business.

[valvano]

Wait a minute, you referenced a corporation moving out of our country due to unions. In your vision that is our business?

The signal your sending me is organized labor is our business. Or perhaps working class jobs with benefits are our business.

there is a distinct difference between public and private sector unionized labor. in the private sector, the cost of union labor in union states drives those jobs to right to work states (see Boeings move to SC) or even worse, drives jobs overseas. on the flip side, public sector union jobs are paid for by the taxpayors. so the unions contribute money to democrats who in turn negotiate big dollar contracts, beyond normal generous pension funds. and when those costs get to big, who pays? taxpayers through increased taxes.

its funny to see now that wisconsin has busted up some collective bargaining rights, schools systems are now saving money and are able to negotiate cheaper health costs because they dont have to negotiate with union run health care programs

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/06/union-curbs-rescue-wisconsin-school-district

[valvano]

you sure know about those mature responses eh?

Your "cock in mouth" comment may come across as homophobic to those readers here who participate in the homosexual lifestyle and prefer such sexual contact.

[kaiser soze]

and people who like skat may feel the same about your post

[valvano]

and people who like skat may feel the same about your post

scatman crothers?