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yeahwho
11-09-2011, 08:44 PM
Should he stay the rest of the season?

Should he leave immediately?

It looks as of this moment he will probably be forced out. I have no problem with that, how do you feel?

abbott
11-09-2011, 09:45 PM
yo no say

Whatitis
11-09-2011, 10:16 PM
Gone. As well he should be, cuz, the old school way of sweeping things under the rug is no more. And way too heinous of a crime to even try to cover up.

like2_drink
11-09-2011, 10:32 PM
And way too heinous of a crime to even try to cover up.

13yrs. was a good run tho.

Get him the fuck out, College football? Its a game, he's a fuck.

yeahwho
11-10-2011, 12:27 AM
On CNN they currently are showing clips of Penn State students protesting and actually overturning cars and shit. Because their beloved Coach Paterno was fired today.

Did he not along with the rest of those all the way to the top of that University just get found out by the rest of the World as enabling a child rapist?

Fucking weird twisted students with no shame at all for the victims. They need to rearrange their rage.

Dorothy Wood
11-10-2011, 10:21 AM
Fucking disgusting idiots. "Oh my god, sports are so important to me!!!!let's break everything!!!!"

They should all get kicked out of school.

cj hood
11-10-2011, 10:38 AM
As a member of PA i says: Although he's obviously guilty, Sandusky has yet to be tried in court. So why didn't they wait til he was found guilty and then fire Paterno. Also, McQueary should have been fired last night as well. Other than that it's sick and sad....

Turchinator
11-10-2011, 12:14 PM
is McQueary the Graduate Assistant? I heard he is going to be on the sidelines still this Saturday.

on that note, does anyone think think the team should have forfeited Saturday's game?

I don't see what punishing the team would do to help.

firing JoePa and everyone involved in the cover up is the right first step.

and then there's a missing former prosecutor from one of Sandusky's first allegations from '98.

DIGI
11-10-2011, 12:58 PM
and then there's a missing former prosecutor from one of Sandusky's first allegations from '98.

That's pretty disturbing in its own right. Depending on how far the courts decide to dig, this could get a lot more messier than anyone could possibly fathom.

venusvenus123
11-10-2011, 01:10 PM
From what I've read today (all on Twitter) there's nothing funny about this.... but each time I glance at the thread title i see "Couch Potato".

abbott
11-10-2011, 04:14 PM
During lunch, some guy was trying to tell me that reporting someone in this case is not that easy and was giving Patrerno some grace..

I know I am repeating this story, but Ava in kindergarten came home and told me about a girl who had been abused by her uncle. As a 5 year old and the words she knew, Ava told me her classmate had been taped up with duck tape and her uncle played with her privacy.

Anyway I was scared as shit for me and my girl, but the fucker is in jail because of my call. I still wonder if the guy is going to show up with a shot gun someday, but whatever. I remember shaking when I made the call and it wasn't easy, but I fucking did it. So if Paterno knew, he should seen it through to the proper authorities.

On a side note I think sports and school should be separate altogether.

Whatitis
11-10-2011, 05:00 PM
Anyway I was scared as shit for me and my girl, but the fucker is in jail because of my call. I still wonder if the guy is going to show up with a shot gun someday, but whatever. I remember shaking when I made the call and it wasn't easy, but I fucking did it. So if Paterno knew, he should seen it through to the proper authorities.

You are a man among men doing so.


On a side note I think sports and school should be separate altogether.

A lot of people have received great educations because of collegiate sports.

yeahwho
11-10-2011, 07:00 PM
I remember shaking when I made the call and it wasn't easy, but I fucking did it. So if Paterno knew, he should seen it through to the proper authorities.



That is right on. I have been in a very similar position and no other option came to my mind... I too called 911. Then I also testified at court and then appeared at the sentencing date. I made sure the sick fuck molester saw me, heard me and realized I would never, ever, forget the damage he perpetuated.

All other options outside of the law (trust me physical harm to the perp was equal to 911) went off the table, the victim got counseling, the molester hard time and a class c felony rap.

Doing the right thing makes sense, being a fucking sleaze ball makes 0 sense.

jabumbo
11-10-2011, 09:55 PM
what those rioting students are missing is that this case has nothing to do with football.

Turchinator
11-11-2011, 01:22 AM
I have read the entire grand jury report and I am just disgusted that no one did anything.

this also includes the detective and DA in 1998 who had information of this sicko showering naked with young boys AND DROPPED ALL CHARGES.

he admitted to showering naked with boys and all charges were dropped and he was told to STOP SHOWERING WITH BOYS

Whatitis
11-11-2011, 01:42 AM
wow. just wow....and with rumors (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-scandal-rumors-sandusky-pimping_n_1086099.html) of deeper shit! It's not over yet.

checkyourprez
11-11-2011, 07:47 AM
I have read the entire grand jury report and I am just disgusted that no one did anything.

this also includes the detective and DA in 1998 who had information of this sicko showering naked with young boys AND DROPPED ALL CHARGES.


wow. just wow....and with rumors (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-scandal-rumors-sandusky-pimping_n_1086099.html) of deeper shit! It's not over yet.


i heard about this yesterday.


this is a major reason why i believe it didnt get blown up sooner. this got found out by the higher ups and they realized the shit storm (that is currently unfolding) that would come from all of this coming out. they weighted their options and decided it was better if this didnt come out, and possibly some more kids got molested (i hope they didnt think about it like that. ignorance of the fact that more children would be harmed is the only defense these people can have to not also be charged in some sort of child molesting conspiracy imo.) than would they would have to face if this got out.

ToucanSpam
11-11-2011, 08:24 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/10/joe-paterno-and-penn-state-s-code-of-omerta-in-the-sex-abuse-scandal.html


Yikes. I think the rioting/angry students probably don't understand what they are defending. I can't imagine anyone defending crimes like these without knowing what happened.

checkyourprez
11-11-2011, 11:03 AM
buttfucking little kids does make it sound worse. i will say that. its like some sort of bad comedy routine (dont use this in your act yet bob, too soon).

venusvenus123
11-11-2011, 12:29 PM
fucking evil :(

Turchinator
11-11-2011, 12:42 PM
regarding the DA Gricar who dismissed the charges and went missing: I heard he was involved with a mafia case and that is likely the reason for his disappearance.

either way, he's the idiot who dropped the charges in '98 so I guess I don't feel bad for him.

and on another note, you simply can't make this up:
Sandusky's autobiography
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575?tag=vglnk-c2298-20


likely the linebacker video mentioned in the grand jury report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aFW0WCUEOqc#!

http://p.twimg.com/Ad1MsYhCIAApOMT.jpg

RobMoney$
11-11-2011, 04:26 PM
The "PIMPING" rumor is just that, an ugly rumor being perpetrated by a shock-jock sports talk idiot who is a classic PSU hating PITT graduate.
He's been fired from about five different sports talk jobs for basically being an idiot.

Turchinator
11-11-2011, 04:54 PM
madden penned this article in April.

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html

sandusky running a child pornography ring wouldn't be that outrageous of an accusation at this point... I mean he used a non profit as his own personal child rape mill.

I'm sure there is tons of media fueled misinformation, but I also know there will be plenty more info in the near to distant future that will show more than we already know.

this Gricar case keeps getting more and more traction.

I cant honestly understand how a DA has a confession of a guy telling him he was naked in a shower with a youth and not press any charges of any kind...

yeahwho
11-11-2011, 05:09 PM
The "PIMPING" rumor is just that, an ugly rumor being perpetrated by a shock-jock sports talk idiot who is a classic PSU hating PITT graduate.
He's been fired from about five different sports talk jobs for basically being an idiot.

Well at least he's not raping children. The other guy Sandusky Is just basically a child rapist.

And Jerry has been respected and paid, in fact seemingly smart people covered up his child raping.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/11/sandusky-made-457g-after-pennsylvania-charity-learned-allegations-tax-records/

This isn't about some sort of Pitt/Penn rivalry.

RobMoney$
11-11-2011, 08:07 PM
Well at least he's not raping children.


What THE FUCK???

Yeah, he's just spreading false rumor to a story that is probably the most horrific scandal to happen in the history of collegiate athletics in an attempt to promote his name and profit.

But you're right, at least he's not raping children!!

The other guy Sandusky Is just basically a child rapist.

Nope. There's no basically about it.
He is ABSOLUTELY a child rapist.


And Jerry has been respected and paid, in fact seemingly smart people covered up his child raping.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/11/sandusky-made-457g-after-pennsylvania-charity-learned-allegations-tax-records/

This isn't about some sort of Pitt/Penn rivalry.

And it's also not about "well, at least the rumor spreading sports shock-jock isn't as big a scumbag as the child rapist" either.

Let's leave the liberal v. conservative type crap for GP. We're all saddened and horrified by what happened here.

yeahwho
11-11-2011, 08:54 PM
What THE FUCK???

Let's leave the liberal v. conservative type crap for GP. We're all saddened and horrified by what happened here.

Dude, just because you are angry most of the time you post, it doesn't give you the ability to try and tell me fuck, get it. I've been down this road if you bothered reading my post above and really will not suffer some sort of nonsense from you over politics on this thread.

I never once went off topic. You did.

RobMoney$
11-11-2011, 09:28 PM
Yeah, perhaps I was out of line.
At least I wasn't raping children, right?

Asshole.

yeahwho
11-11-2011, 09:54 PM
Yeah, perhaps I was out of line.
At least I wasn't raping children, right?

Asshole.

What are you? Some sort of Internet bully? A few of us on this thread related some personal information about real life situations involving child abuse.

You have to be kidding me, right? Or are you seriously flipping me shit?

Turchinator
11-11-2011, 10:49 PM
did i miss something that was political in the comments above?

I know this Mark Madden fellow has been fired many times on many stations for the things he says, but again an allegation like the one above really wouldn't surprise me so I don't see why people are upset at the mention of madden's claims, taken from "two prominent columnists"

read that article he wrote in April, he called it exactly the way it went down.

RobMoney$
11-12-2011, 07:35 AM
I knew about the story he wrote in April before you linked it. I give him much respect for having it before anyone else and nobody paid any attention until the grand jury report hit this past Sunday.
This "pimping" claim however, is pure shock value crap. Let's all hope for the victims sake that it is anyway, right?

checkyourprez
11-12-2011, 08:34 AM
I knew about the story he wrote in April before you linked it. I give him much respect for having it before anyone else and nobody paid any attention until the grand jury report hit this past Sunday.
This "pimping" claim however, is pure shock value crap. Let's all hope for the victims sake that it is anyway, right?

it either happened or didnt. no sense in hoping for something not to have happened if it already happened. its not shock value if its true. you seem to have a beef with this guy and are trying to discredit his claim because of that. if its true, its true.



i read another story (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-Jerry-Sandusky-scandal-shows-that-Joe-Paterno-Mike-McQueary-needed-to-do-more-111111) on it today that tried to explain somewhat the actions of McQueary, the one who first saw Sandsusky in the shower with the 10 year old.

Its not trying to excuse his actions, just explain them somewhat. He grew up 1 mile from state college. Went to state college high school. Was a high school teammate of Sandusky's son. Eventually went to state college and was a quarterback on the team. At the time he was a grad assistant for the team. He grew up in the Paterno worship.

The story likened his situation to the Catholic Church. Paterno was the pope and Sandusky a cardinal. What was McQueary supposed to do?

"Maybe McQueary’s whole world, whole belief system, whole future was in jeopardy. Who was going to believe McQueary? His own life and future were on the line. And if people did believe him, then the church of Penn State could come crashing down."

"...from childhood, he has been an emotional part of this Paterno-worshipping, this football-idolizing culture. I have to believe that contributed to his decision to tell supervisors, not police.’’



Thats why I feel Paterno shoulders more blame in that instance. He was the one they all worshiped. He was the grown man, but instead chose/was complicit in only telling his boss and living with that as the best/right thing to do.

RobMoney$
11-12-2011, 09:17 AM
you seem to have a beef with this guy and are trying to discredit his claim because of that. if its true, its true.

You're damn right I have a beef with someone making accusations such as these without any proof.
And I also have a beef with someone making a statement such as "well at least he's not molesting children, right?"

I'm not a PSU guy, and I'm not a PITT guy. I was just giving readers a reason for his motivation.
I couldn't stand the whole JoPa worship even before any of this was made public and have advocated for his replacement for years. That program has been unable to compete on a national level for years because of his antiquated philosophies and playbook. They can't recruit seriously on a national level either.
Imagine you're a top ranked HS player. You going to Happy Valley to play for an 86yo man who runs a 1970's offense and hasn't produced a quality NFL star in years, or you going to the Alabama's, LSU's, and Texas's of the world?
He's needed to go for a long time, but he's too stubborn to do it.

I mean just look at his attempt to control the way he went out when this all happened on Sunday by preemptively announcing that he would retire at the end of the season and that he didn't want the Board of Trustees discussing his future any further.
Umm, no Joe. You don't get to control everything anymore. The Board fired his ass that night. As if he deserved to go out on his terms. And as if his coaching legacy meant anything at that point. If you heard him speak the night of that ridiculous Paterno rally/riot the night they fired him, you heard how feeble minded he sounds. I still don't believe he understands the seriousness of all of this.

And then I had to watch his coaching replacement interviewed this morning on ESPN talk about how his adoration of Paterno, and how the first seat on the right side of the bus will remain empty because that's coach paterno's seat. It made me sick. It's the Paterno cult up there in Happy Valley. That football game today is going to be like watching a commercial for the Cult of Paterno and this whole conspiracy to cover up.
I'm sure it was Paterno's small-mindedness that led to him handing this off for others to handle because all he wanted to be bothered with was coaching football. He clearly doesn't want to be bothered with anything else.

If it were up to me I'd cancel the game. As if a damn football game means anything at this point.

checkyourprez
11-12-2011, 12:01 PM
You're damn right I have a beef with someone making accusations such as these without any proof.
And I also have a beef with someone making a statement such as "well at least he's not molesting children, right?"

I'm not a PSU guy, and I'm not a PITT guy. I was just giving readers a reason for his motivation.
I couldn't stand the whole JoPa worship even before any of this was made public and have advocated for his replacement for years. That program has been unable to compete on a national level for years because of his antiquated philosophies and playbook. They can't recruit seriously on a national level either.
Imagine you're a top ranked HS player. You going to Happy Valley to play for an 86yo man who runs a 1970's offense and hasn't produced a quality NFL star in years, or you going to the Alabama's, LSU's, and Texas's of the world?
He's needed to go for a long time, but he's too stubborn to do it.

I mean just look at his attempt to control the way he went out when this all happened on Sunday by preemptively announcing that he would retire at the end of the season and that he didn't want the Board of Trustees discussing his future any further.
Umm, no Joe. You don't get to control everything anymore. The Board fired his ass that night. As if he deserved to go out on his terms. And as if his coaching legacy meant anything at that point. If you heard him speak the night of that ridiculous Paterno rally/riot the night they fired him, you heard how feeble minded he sounds. I still don't believe he understands the seriousness of all of this.

And then I had to watch his coaching replacement interviewed this morning on ESPN talk about how his adoration of Paterno, and how the first seat on the right side of the bus will remain empty because that's coach paterno's seat. It made me sick. It's the Paterno cult up there in Happy Valley. That football game today is going to be like watching a commercial for the Cult of Paterno and this whole conspiracy to cover up.
I'm sure it was Paterno's small-mindedness that led to him handing this off for others to handle because all he wanted to be bothered with was coaching football. He clearly doesn't want to be bothered with anything else.

If it were up to me I'd cancel the game. As if a damn football game means anything at this point.


just out of curiousity i looked that up. they currently have 30 former players playing in the NFL, thats not too shabby. not many are big namers, true (at least at the skill positions).



i am in agreement with all of the rest of what you have just said there.


however i will reserve further comment on your previous post until the validity of Maddens previous statements are proven true or false.

RobMoney$
11-12-2011, 12:27 PM
Right, they can't recruit the skill position players they need to be able to compete against the Alabama's & USC's of the world. They can get the occassional thick-legged farm boy linebacker or lineman type, but that's it.

So I say take a flame thrower to the whole program.
Change the coach,
change the staff,
change the style of play,
change the uniforms,
change it ALL!

It's been 62 years since they've changed anything.
It's time.

And until I see proof of any "pimping", it's nothing but a rumor.

checkyourprez
11-12-2011, 12:55 PM
i would not be surprised to see a massive overhaul of the staff after this season seeing most everyone fired or resign.


and ya linemen and linebackers seem to be the only thing they pump out of worth recently.

yeahwho
11-12-2011, 05:54 PM
Searching around reading up on Paterno I came across this great article on the ESPN website by By Gene Wojciechowski

The tragedy of Joe Paterno (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221684/the-tragedy-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno)
The iconic coach's role in the Penn State scandal raises questions about who he is

His spectacular rise and equally spectacular fall prove once more that absolute power absolutely corrupts or, at the very least, blurs the vision. And make no mistake: Paterno's power and influence at Penn State was often vast and overpowering.

"Joe is -- was -- in absolute control of Penn State athletics," says a former BCS conference official who had a long working relationship with Paterno. "There's no question about it."

Says another BCS conference administrator: "Joe's got a dark side. He's not always that witty old man. Joe can be very, very tough. He's very smart."

The more phone calls you make to those who know Paterno, who have worked with Paterno and who have socialized with Paterno, the more you realize he isn't simply the smiling cardboard cutout figure that the riotous crowds in downtown State College used as a symbol of their unrest.

The descriptions from one administrator: "Fabulous and horrendous" … "Surreptitious" … "Self-absorbed" … "Calculating" … "Protective of everything he's done."

good read, great writer.

checkyourprez
11-12-2011, 09:23 PM
Searching around reading up on Paterno I came across this great article on the ESPN website by By Gene Wojciechowski

The tragedy of Joe Paterno (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221684/the-tragedy-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-joe-paterno)
The iconic coach's role in the Penn State scandal raises questions about who he is

His spectacular rise and equally spectacular fall prove once more that absolute power absolutely corrupts or, at the very least, blurs the vision. And make no mistake: Paterno's power and influence at Penn State was often vast and overpowering.

"Joe is -- was -- in absolute control of Penn State athletics," says a former BCS conference official who had a long working relationship with Paterno. "There's no question about it."

Says another BCS conference administrator: "Joe's got a dark side. He's not always that witty old man. Joe can be very, very tough. He's very smart."

The more phone calls you make to those who know Paterno, who have worked with Paterno and who have socialized with Paterno, the more you realize he isn't simply the smiling cardboard cutout figure that the riotous crowds in downtown State College used as a symbol of their unrest.

The descriptions from one administrator: "Fabulous and horrendous" … "Surreptitious" … "Self-absorbed" … "Calculating" … "Protective of everything he's done."

good read, great writer.

ironic, all of this cost him that.

yeahwho
11-12-2011, 09:38 PM
ironic, all of this cost him that.

Like the write up goes on to say,

"Joe doesn't know why [Sandusky] resigned?" says a former athletic director at a rival institution. "Bull----. That was the first cover-up. … In '99, when Sandusky resigns, you think this coaching staff didn't know what was going on?

"In 2002, this could have been a two-day story: 'Ex-Penn State assistant coach is arrested.' I'm not saying it wouldn't have been a painful story, but it would have been dealt with. But there's so much arrogance to think they can keep it a secret. And it starts with Joe … Monumental ego and arrogance."

checkyourprez
11-12-2011, 09:57 PM
you roped me in. ill read the story.

nodanaonlyzuul
11-14-2011, 04:52 PM
The Superficial is a silly internet gossip site, but they posted a more serious post about this situation with updates today. They get a little angry with their comments, but I completely agree with their responses:post here if you want to read it (http://www.thesuperficial.com/jerry-sandusky-still-pulling-a-pension-from-penn-state-and-other-horsesht-11-2011#more-1222191).

The entire situation makes my stomach turn. And I'm sorry, but to say you were "distraught" and that's why you didn't step in to stop what you were seeing? Sure, maybe that's your initial reaction because it's so horrifyingly disgusting you don't want to believe what you are seeing. But you better then step in to stop what's happening immediately. And if it were me? It would be followed up with several punches to the guys face.

Documad
11-15-2011, 07:41 PM
The Bob Costas's interview with Sandusky--I can't believe Sandusky is that dumb. Wow.

Burnout18
11-18-2011, 05:07 PM
The Bob Costas's interview with Sandusky--I can't believe Sandusky is that dumb. Wow.

Did you hear how stupid he was? "Are you attracted to young boys" and he gave some long winded answer. Dude, even michael jackson knew to say no.

This creep was so obvious, first semester freshmen at PSU had to know he was a child molester.

And reading that indictment was horrific. I wish i didn't read it.

yeahwho
11-18-2011, 07:17 PM
There is a twitter going around about Paterno that if verified could put him in a better light... It is a popular rumor of Paterno fans...

http://twitpic.com/7fizr5

The only problem is if you google Sandusky/PSU it blatantly contradicts that info, in about 1 second.


If ever I needed a for sure visit to the federal corrections center I would hire Sandusky's attorney, who sat there right across from Costas not once did he try to mitigate the damage his client did to himself on National TV.

Second Mile, was also a contributor to now Governor Corbett's political war chest back when he was Attorney General of Pennsylvania. The truth is stranger than fiction. David Lynch type of reality.

checkyourprez
11-19-2011, 12:46 PM
There is a twitter going around about Paterno that if verified could put him in a better light... It is a popular rumor of Paterno fans...

http://twitpic.com/7fizr5

The only problem is if you google Sandusky/PSU it blatantly contradicts that info, in about 1 second.


If ever I needed a for sure visit to the federal corrections center I would hire Sandusky's attorney, who sat there right across from Costas not once did he try to mitigate the damage his client did to himself on National TV.

Second Mile, was also a contributor to now Governor Corbett's political war chest back when he was Attorney General of Pennsylvania. The truth is stranger than fiction. David Lynch type of reality.


i think the game he is playing is more just damage control and sentence reduction than trying to get his client off. its pretty well documented by the mcquery thing and his admissions in 99 that he engaged in highly questionable activity with kids. the lawyer's pov imo is trying to show that although some of his actions were most certainly inappropriate and not the most well thought out and shouldnt have happened (showering with boys, "horsing around", etc) that he is not a diddler. more so hoping to be able to plead to endangering the welfare of a child rather than child sodomy etc.

Documad
11-19-2011, 04:53 PM
I don't think sentence reduction is an option. If the state has even half the evidence they seem to have he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life.

I can't understand the attorney's conduct at all. Unless he somehow thinks he can get other clients via publicity but I think it's obvious to even the most stupid potential clients that he's a dumbass.

jabumbo
11-19-2011, 11:14 PM
for the record, Mark Madden went to Duquesne :rolleyes:

RobMoney$
11-20-2011, 02:05 PM
Whatever he is, he's a classic Penn st. hater who has a checkered resume which makes anything he comments on suspect.

BTW, the "pimping" story died a quick death, huh?

Documad
11-20-2011, 03:46 PM
BTW, the "pimping" story died a quick death, huh?
When that was going 'round, I heard it from so many people as if it was FACT.

checkyourprez
11-20-2011, 03:58 PM
Whatever he is, he's a classic Penn st. hater who has a checkered resume which makes anything he comments on suspect.

BTW, the "pimping" story died a quick death, huh?

When that was going 'round, I heard it from so many people as if it was FACT.


i didnt know the trail had ended? who knows what comes out once he starts feeling the screws of dicks in his ass and shanks in his gut start turning...

yeahwho
12-03-2011, 11:47 AM
I guess Sandusky and his attorney have pretty much sewn up "Creeps of the Year" award.

Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story (http:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?_r=1&hp#commentsContainer//)

checkyourprez
12-03-2011, 12:22 PM
I guess Sandusky and his attorney have pretty much sewn up "Creeps of the Year" award.

Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story (http:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?_r=1&hp#commentsContainer//)

The requested URL /http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html was not found on this server.

yeahwho
12-03-2011, 01:18 PM
The requested URL /http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html was not found on this server.

Oh yeah OK, must of messed it up, try again it's a interview he did with the NYtimes `12/3/11

Interesting that he says he'll miss all kinds of people and his dog but does not mention his wife.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?hp

checkyourprez
12-03-2011, 02:39 PM
Oh yeah OK, must of messed it up, try again it's a interview he did with the NYtimes `12/3/11

Interesting that he says he'll miss all kinds of people and his dog but does not mention his wife.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html?hp

probably only had his wife for show. put up a front as to not to attract attention to the diddling.

DIGI
12-03-2011, 11:13 PM
Whatever he is, he's a classic Penn st. hater who has a checkered resume which makes anything he comments on suspect.

BTW, the "pimping" story died a quick death, huh?

No, it's still around. Mark Madden is considered to be a lot of things, including right on several occasions. He's obnoxious as fuck, but also very insightful.

yeahwho
08-15-2012, 04:10 PM
Joe Paterno 'sobbed uncontrollably' after firing, biography says... (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-joe-paterno-20120815,0,2226016.story)


"My name," Paterno told his son Jay. "I have spent my whole life trying to make that name mean something. And now it's gone."

Documad
08-15-2012, 04:21 PM
It's cliche to say but he should have been crying for the real victims.

Heather_D
08-15-2012, 05:06 PM
It's cliche to say but he should have been crying for the real victims.

(y)

I've kind of been "forced" into watching stuff about the case, living in PA. I'm glad the NCAA took away his wins, but at the same time, it's sad that scholarships were taken away. Not sure if it's big national news, but now the board that accredits colleges/unis is strongly considering taking away Penn State's accreditation. I believe the reason has to do with the inaction of the former president & those that were "in the know.". Aweful story all around.