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yeahwho
02-17-2012, 09:42 PM
Great news for all of those concerned about Obama's entitlement programs, the Republicans use them more than the democrats.

From the NYTimes, linkage (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/opinion/krugman-moochers-against-welfare.html?hp)

What we should be aware of as we head towards the polls this November is the true statistics of those who are supporting Romney, Santorum and the Party they represent, The Republicans.

Read Also... Even Critics of Safety Net Increasingly Depend on It
(http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html)

snippet from above Op/Ed,

Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as “most conservative” received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the 10 most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.

Now, there’s no mystery about red-state reliance on government programs. These states are relatively poor, which means both that people have fewer sources of income other than safety-net programs and that more of them qualify for “means-tested” programs such as Medicaid.

By the way, the same logic explains why there has been a jump in dependency since 2008. Contrary to what Mr. Santorum and Mr. Romney suggest, Mr. Obama has not radically expanded the safety net. Rather, the dire state of the economy has reduced incomes and made more people eligible for benefits, especially unemployment benefits. Basically, the safety net is the same, but more people are falling into it.

As one commenter puts it

That's rich - Suzanne Metler's finding that 44 percent of Social Security recipients, 43 percent of those receiving unemployment benefits, and 40 percent of those on Medicare say that they “have not used a government program.” And all these deluded folks are allowed to vote, and histrionically rant and rave, and preach fact-free ideologies.

Dorothy Wood
02-18-2012, 03:50 PM
That second article is really telling. Personal guilt is what's driving tea party rage, and it's pathetic. They're the ones necessitating a "nanny state" because they won't make the personal choices and changes they need to make to keep up with a changing world. Like that first guy, oh, you can't afford to have your kids play sports if your government aid is taken away? tough shit! Like, hey, sorry but your t-shirt business just isn't a good long-term business for you man. Probably because people in a smallish town don't constantly need t-shirts printed. Sorry man, you need to move on, solicit sales online. If that doesn't work, then you're just not good enough at t-shirts to compete in such a saturated market. You need to reassess, get a job working for someone else or go back to school. That's how life actually works, grow up and stop whining about how democrats and welfare ruined your life.



I feel more and more sick about the stupidity in this country every day. I sometimes wish I could be a business loan manager, a person who could look at someone's business plan and be like, "nope" and deny stupid business ideas. the problem is, you don't get to be a rich banker doing that...letting every asshole try out an idea is way more profitable.

there was this place called "crazy chickens" that opened up down the street from my work, it was a tiny storefront restaurant on the side street to the main street. A very dark little corner on kind of an ugly block. They spent months rehabbing the space, covered the front in marble, had a weird custom brass sign, and strange handwritten menus and misspelled signs alllll over the place.

well, it closed after a few months. and I thought, what the flying fuck, they had to have spent at least 50 grand rehabbing a leased space! It just baffles me that that kind of money is just wasted and that place will just sit there vacant with a weird sign on it for years.

and another place down the block used to be this gigantic storefront realty office with couches and about 15 flat screen TVs all over the place, and all these computer kiosks for clients. I'd walk by and nobody was ever in there but the realtors surfing the internet at their desk pod things. I'm guessing at least a mil went into this place. and it closed because they pretty much built it a millisecond before the bubble burst. idiots.

it's been a seasonal halloween store the last couple of years, and then it was a shoe store for about 6 months before the shoe store liquidated its stock with a going out of business sale, because it's hard to sell shoes out of a storefront that looks like an office with tinted windows.

and then the property owners just let the store fronts stay vacant because they want to charge $6,000+/month for rent for a piece of shit space, and no other business but a chain restaurant can afford that.


American small business is an important part of America and its history, but not every single dickhead with an idea has the smarts and dedication to actually pull it off...and you can't give everyone a damn loan to do this dumb shit. If they want to do something dumb, they gotta work hard for it, so maybe on the way they realize "oh, perhaps I should rethink this?" instead of getting a $100,000 loan from a bank to blow on a shitty rehab.

It's become a nation of shortcuts, scams, and avoidance. I hate it.

kaiser soze
02-20-2012, 07:30 PM
where's the outrage from our conservative board members?!?!

:rolleyes:

yeahwho
02-21-2012, 04:42 PM
where's the outrage from our conservative board members?!?!

:rolleyes:

How does a conservative back up their current batch of leaders?

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that our Republican presidential candidates are at best, unappealing.

The leading candidate "Santorum" is all lubed up and ready to go, he will get us out of the yoke of "Obamacare" and straight into a real third world healthcare system. Women can return to their rightful and bible approved position as bare foot and pregnant.

Then we have the "Millionaire" who will fix the Country with Romney-capitalism, where every scam is blamed on the victim and jobs are created for bankruptcy lawyers.

We can do away with public TV and replace it with FOX family value programming.

It is a leadership crisis created by the Tea Party.

Turchinator
02-22-2012, 10:51 AM
don't tread on me, big gubment!



until I need you to regulate marriage laws, abortion policies, and oh I would like to collect my unemployment benefits and food stamps now.