This is why we all cant have guns.

[Burnout18]

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/family-teen-fatally-shot-neighborhood-watch-leader/nLNq9/

Kid goes to a store, ends up getting shot in a gated community... By overzealous neighborhood watch. Poor kid killed.

Not everyone has the mental capacity and decision making processes that trained soldiers or police have.

Seriously. Neighborhood watch.

[abbott]

no one in jail, that is bull shit.

[Helvete]

He asked for it.

[Randetica]

barely anyone here owns shooting guns

stop living in the barbarian past!

[Turchinator]

He asked for it.

he was asking to be shot and killed by a 26 year old Neigbhorhood Watchman for walking in his family's gated neighborhood with a bag of Skittles?

please, do tell.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

What was he wearing?

[Burnout18]

no one in jail, that is bull shit.

I know. What the fuck. This murder. Kid has skittles and tea on him. No weapons. Nothing.

[Helvete]

I know. What the fuck. This murder. Kid has skittles and tea on him. No weapons. Nothing.

Let me just play devil's advocate for a second here. Kid is walking through a strange area and spotted by neighbourhood watch man, he thinks the guy (let's be realistic, not all 17 year olds are like children) is acting suspicious for whatever reason. He confronts this strange person going through his neighbourhood as to his purpose of being there and is met by verbal abuse and attitude.

This escalates into threatening behaviour and the 17 year old makes neighbourhood watch man think he's going to be attacked. Shit happens and the boy gets shot.

Yes, this situation sounds bullshit, but the article is very biased and there is always 2 sides to a story. I am not justifying his actions of shooting someone but just putting the idea across that it wasn't just some young boy minding his own business when a shot rings out from across the street and kills him.

[Helvete]

I know. What the fuck. This murder. Kid has skittles and tea on him. No weapons. Nothing.

If you've got a gun and I've got no weapons, but I'm bigger and stronger than you and make you believe that I'm going to stomp your brains in, you'd shoot me.

[Turchinator]

In America, Neighborhood Watch is not a vigilante group or volunteer police force. They are community members who are trained to contact authorities when they are witnessing a CRIME occuring.

By 'acting suspicious' and big and menacing, what you really mean is that a black dude is in a white neighborhood and shouldn't be there.

In Florida, this not a crime last time I checked.

The shooter was a kid himself. How can you interpret their difference in size from an article that showed a picture of the murder victim in his little league uniform?

[Helvete]

In America, Neighborhood Watch is not a vigilante group or volunteer police force. They are community members who are trained to contact authorities when they are witnessing a CRIME occuring.

By 'acting suspicious' and big and menacing, what you really mean is that a black dude is in a white neighborhood and shouldn't be there.

In Florida, this not a crime last time I checked.

The shooter was a kid himself. How can you interpret their difference in size from an article that showed a picture of the murder victim in his little league uniform?

Your news is so biased, I can't believe you put up with it. Putting words into people's mouths 'HE WAS BLACK, THE SHOOTER WAS WHITE, THIS IS WHY THE BLACK BOY IS DEAD AND THE WHITE SHOOTER IS NOT IN JAIL'.

Let the police conduct their investigation and find out the fact themselves.

A person walking down the street is not suspicious. If the kid was going about his business he would have walked through the area and nothing would have happened. How was he in the same place long enough for someone to make a call to the police? How did this confrontation ever take place? Was the kid hanging about and looking into people's properties? He must have be doing something!

There is no way a person would be walking from point A to B without doing something on the way (apart from being black) that would have resulted in this incident.

I just don't believe this case is as simple as it seems.

[Turchinator]

you're right- it's not.

it turns out the shooter, (28, not 26 as I mentioned) has a record of resisting arrest and battery on a police officer, charges also dropped.

the crazy biased media told me this, as confirmed by the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

the victim has no criminal record of sorts.

A person walking down the street is not suspicious. If the kid was going about his business he would have walked through the area and nothing would have happened. How was he in the same place long enough for someone to make a call to the police? How did this confrontation ever take place? Was the kid hanging about and looking into people's properties? He must have be doing something!

you don't know shit. why are you twisting this?

the police told the shooter not to pursue the guy. he was walking home.

[Turchinator]

vigilante justice- some angry white guy in a rich community isolated from reality sees a black kid, calls it suspicious, and calls it in...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/family-of-trayvon-martin-_n_1332756.html

In the "Committee News" section of last month's issue of the gated community's newsletter, "Retreat Reflections," the neighborhood watch committee asked for additional volunteers and warned: "Please keep your eyes open" and "If you see something suspicious or out of place, report it!"

For more information, it said, call George Zimmerman.

UPDATE:

Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford Police Department on Thursday evening said the account given by Martin’s family and attorney is correct, that Zimmerman saw the young man walking home from the store. He said that Zimmerman did indeed call 911 and report a suspicious person, and that he was told not to follow him.

“For some reason he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared seemed suspicious to him,” Lee said. “He called this in and at one part of this initial call [the dispatcher] recommends him not to follow Trayvon. A police officer is on the way at that point.”

Lee said that Zimmerman instead followed Martin.

“I believe that Mr. Zimmerman was trying to, by his account, find an address to give the officers and also trying to keep Trayvon in eyesight.”

Zimmerman told the police that Martin noticed that he was being followed and asked, “what’s your problem?”

That's when a physical confrontation ensued, Lee said. And moments later, Martin was shot.

Lee said that Zimmerman has a legal permit to carry the weapon used in the shooting, and that he told police that he shot Martin in self-defense.

“He felt the need to defend himself,” Lee said. “ I don’t think it was his intent to go and shoot somebody” that night.

The chief said the police have met with Zimmerman on two to three separate occasions, and that their investigation should be wrapped up this week. He said all of the evidence in the case will be delivered to the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office soon after.

“We’re going to present all the information and if they feel that based on all of the evidence that we’re able to produce that Mr. Zimmerman has satisfied the requirement that he shot in self defense, they may, but if not, he would be charged with some type of homicide or manslaughter,” Lee said.

“It is certainly and absolutely a tragedy, especially for the Martin Family,” Lee said. "No one expects their teenage son to go the store and never come back.”

[kaiser soze]

911 instructed him not to pursue the "suspicious" person

the asshole couldn't follow the rules of the organization he was head of - fuck him, he may survive a stiff criminal sentence but you bet your bottom dollar he won't be living in a gated community in a couple years cuz a civil suit will fuck him up

[Helvete]

you're right- it's not.

it turns out the shooter, (28, not 26 as I mentioned) has a record of resisting arrest and battery on a police officer, charges also dropped.

the crazy biased media told me this, as confirmed by the Orange County Clerk of Courts.

the victim has no criminal record of sorts.



you don't know shit. why are you twisting this?

the police told the shooter not to pursue the guy. he was walking home.

I was trying to get my head around a situation which I could not fathom how it happened. Now more details are coming out, the picture is becoming clearer. I like to hear all sides of the story and make my assessment based on that, rather than jumping the gun. Turns out your initial judgement seems like it was right, but it might not have been.

In my job, if I just took things at face value and from one source, I'd be really shitty at it!

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Your news is so biased, I can't believe you put up with it. Putting words into people's mouths 'HE WAS BLACK, THE SHOOTER WAS WHITE, THIS IS WHY THE BLACK BOY IS DEAD AND THE WHITE SHOOTER IS NOT IN JAIL'.

Let the police conduct their investigation and find out the fact themselves.

A person walking down the street is not suspicious. If the kid was going about his business he would have walked through the area and nothing would have happened. How was he in the same place long enough for someone to make a call to the police? How did this confrontation ever take place? Was the kid hanging about and looking into people's properties? He must have be doing something!

There is no way a person would be walking from point A to B without doing something on the way (apart from being black) that would have resulted in this incident.

I just don't believe this case is as simple as it seems.

LOL. It would make a lot more sense to you if you were from the U.S.

[Bob]

Your news is so biased, I can't believe you put up with it. Putting words into people's mouths 'HE WAS BLACK, THE SHOOTER WAS WHITE, THIS IS WHY THE BLACK BOY IS DEAD AND THE WHITE SHOOTER IS NOT IN JAIL'.

Let the police conduct their investigation and find out the fact themselves.

A person walking down the street is not suspicious. If the kid was going about his business he would have walked through the area and nothing would have happened. How was he in the same place long enough for someone to make a call to the police? How did this confrontation ever take place? Was the kid hanging about and looking into people's properties? He must have be doing something!

There is no way a person would be walking from point A to B without doing something on the way (apart from being black) that would have resulted in this incident.

I just don't believe this case is as simple as it seems.

the shooter could be a cunt

sometimes people are cunts and sometimes they own guns and use them to kill people who aren't cunts

[Dorothy Wood]

I heard the 911 calls today, the police clearly told the neighborhood watch guy not to follow the kid. And he basically said he looked suspicious because he was walking down the sidewalk with his hand in his pocket.

I honestly don't think the shooter can get away with this. He's claiming he acted in self defense, but it can't be self defense if he was following the kid in the first place. That in itself makes him the aggressor. If some asshole confronted me from behind after following me, I'd put up a fight too. it's a tragic situation, but Zimmerman should be punished. You can't just go around confronting people you think look suspicious.

And the only reason he wasn't arrested was because the conservative gun nuts applied castle laws to the streets, so people can get away with killing someone as long as it's in self defense. The jerks who wrote the law should get sued for wrongful death.

[kaiser soze]

Teenage girl reports she was on phone with Trayvon just before the shooting. He felt he was the one in danger....and apparently so.

The guy who killed him should be locked up as we speak - there was no self-defense, just murder.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-death-friend-phone-teen-death-recounts/story?id=15959017#.T2hfLNlZV_Y

[Turchinator]

wait, he was wearing a hood and it was raining simultaneously?

STAND YOUR GROUND

[JoLovesMCA]

He followed and harrassed and killed that poor kid in cold blood. In my perfect little world George Zimmerman would be tied to a tree and stoned to death, but since that's not possible I hope justice will come for Trayvon Martin.

[Helvete]

You're obviously joking about the 'in a perfect' world bit, that's ridiculous.

Zimmerman was clearly looking for trouble and had hate on his mind, why is he not facing charges?

[Burnout18]

This is such a mind boggling story because Its so simple, yet Zimmerman hasn't been charged yet.

[JoLovesMCA]

You're obviously joking about the 'in a perfect' world bit, that's ridiculous.

Zimmerman was clearly looking for trouble and had hate on his mind, why is he not facing charges?

No I wasn't joking, but I do realize that my idea of punishment is just a pipe dream.

[Bob]

You're obviously joking about the 'in a perfect' world bit, that's ridiculous.

Zimmerman was clearly looking for trouble and had hate on his mind, why is he not facing charges?

even if you somehow read the florida self defense laws in his favor and make him not guilty, at the very very damn least you take a case like this and run it through the criminal justice system to make sure. you don't just say "ah it's probably fine" and don't make any arrests, surely

baffling

[yeahwho]

even if you somehow read the florida self defense laws in his favor and make him not guilty, at the very very damn least you take a case like this and run it through the criminal justice system to make sure. you don't just say "ah it's probably fine" and don't make any arrests, surely

baffling

The way you have presented the case (a speculative view) is one of the more relaxed views. In Florida under certain situations, killing people shouldn't be as complicated as parking ticket enforcement.

baffling and to me... I see it as malfeasance bordering on complicity in murder.

[yeahwho]

plus, I'm done walking around in Florida.

[kaiser soze]

blame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rkvRYg2ZmY0

[Helvete]

There's been all sorts of reports coming out that 'witnesses' saw Martin beating up Zimmerman, as if it's some sort of justification for the shooting. I don't think so. You don't needlessly pursue a guy, start giving him hassle, pull out a gun and possibly make a guy fight for his life thinking he was going to get shot. Oh, and then shoot him.

My bet is on the gun was already drawn when Zimmerman confronted Martin and Martin of course freaked out.

[kaiser soze]

looks like the murderer assaulted an LEO in the past

http://nancylockhart.blogspot.com/2012/03/rap-sheet-of-george-michael-zimmerman.html

[kaiser soze]

still many questions unanswered

1) If Zimmerman was injured from the teen - where are the descriptions or pictures or the injuries/and signs that Martin struck Zimmerman

2) Proximity of the firearm discharge and to where - front, back, torso, where?

3) Why didn't Zimmerman get treated for his injuries? broken nose? concussion?
documentation by police/doctor?

[abbott]

no one in jail? this is bullshit.

[kaiser soze]

nope and the media is starting to smear the victim (suspension over empty plastic baggies, graffiti, possible theft)

doesn't change the fact he was murdered in cold blood

[Helvete]

nope and the media is starting to smear the victim (suspension over empty plastic baggies, graffiti, possible theft)

doesn't change the fact he was murdered in cold blood

It has done enough to smear Zimmerman!

[Whatitis]

Facts are coming out aren't smears, they're facts and everything has to be presented to fully understand why. I feel sorry for Trayvon's family and believe this Zimmerman idiot should be charged for manslaughter at minimum with the facts that are out so far. The support for Trayvon and his family is outstanding but I believe it has pushed the race aspect of this case too over the top. Racial attacks happen daily and many way more blatant than this case shows so far that barely even get a news paragraph.

[valvano]

I know if one of my kids were killed in a high profile shooting, the first thing I would do is trademark their name so I could jump on any moneytrain:

http://rt.com/usa/news/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-sanford-597/

Of course, being in a protest gives you the right to loot a drug store:

http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

and the shooter who you described as an "angry white guy from a rich neighborhood".....was a registered democrat:

http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/

And Mr Martin appeared to live the life of an Eagle Scout :rolleyes::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

[kaiser soze]

whoa....you found your way back from Stormfront

sucks for us

now to address some of your "issues"

1) But we thought you loved Capitalism?
2) No it doesn't - hope those kids get in some serious trouble
3) Democrat, Republican, whatever - he stalked and killed the kid
4) Thus giving him the right to be murdered

you're a fucking goon

because we like you

would you like to know what Zimmerman wiggled his way out of because of his judge daddy?

[valvano]

whoa....you found your way back from Stormfront



is that a Star Wars game or something? never heard of it, seriously. Like Star Wars, but on episodes 3-6. 1 and 2 suck.

[kaiser soze]

might as well be in the world you live in

[valvano]

might as well be in the world you live in


so what is Stormfront? a weather chasing group? i seriously have no clue.

[kaiser soze]

yup

[Burnout18]

whoa....you found your way back from Stormfront



1) But we thought you loved Capitalism?
2) No it doesn't - hope those kids get in some serious trouble
3) Democrat, Republican, whatever - he stalked and killed the kid
4) Thus giving him the right to be murdered

would you like to know what Zimmerman wiggled his way out of because of his judge daddy?

dude I have no idea why people who "support" Zimmerman are acting like they have evidence that martin's killing was justified. All you have to do is think on It for a second and you realize nothing about martin's past coming out is relevant to the shooting.

[kaiser soze]

but yet they are trying to find relevancy in his character flaws, once they run out of opportunities from his past to smear the kid I guess they'll only have on last thing to say...

"he was black!"

[Bob]

I know if one of my kids were killed in a high profile shooting, the first thing I would do is trademark their name so I could jump on any moneytrain:

http://rt.com/usa/news/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-sanford-597/

Of course, being in a protest gives you the right to loot a drug store:

http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html

and the shooter who you described as an "angry white guy from a rich neighborhood".....was a registered democrat:

http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/

And Mr Martin appeared to live the life of an Eagle Scout :rolleyes::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

hmm, good points across the board. now i don't feel so bad that he got shot to death for no reason. well argued as usual valvano

[Turchinator]

the us census considers hispanic americans to be white, I'm sorry to tell you valvano.

but your talking point smear campaign has already made its way around the Internet and back. you're a little late.

I don't give a crap who's a registered democrat, republican, or alien for that matter.

I don't give a crap the race of the shooter or the victim.

I don't give a crap about the arrest record or *gasp* high school discipline file of either.

you're just hating all this attention this young kid is getting for being black and murdered and all, aren't you?

do yourself a favor and post the fake photo of Trayvon that isn't Trayvon looking all gangster and don't forget to use the phrase "liberal media bias"

[JoLovesMCA]

A lot of kids end up going down the wrong path and turn to gang life, but even if Trayvon was like that, the facts remain. He wasn’t out doing anything wrong and was minding his own business. Zimmerman jumped to conclusions and had already a bad reputation for being hostile, so sadly if it wasn’t Trayvon it would have been somebody else. Now why hasn't his erratic behaviour been reported before? There are more people out there like Zimmerman and unfortunately it will happen again if our justice system doesn’t punish appropriately and keeps giving them a slap on the wrist. Harsher punishment might not solve all of the problems but it might make some people think twice about it. Then again each state has different laws and stand your ground is ridiculous.

The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

So if I personally have reason to believe somebody is up to no good I can just shoot em down in cold blood? Am I not understanding it correctly or is that what it’s saying??

[Whatitis]

And now the innocent get caught in the crossfire (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/spike-lee-zimmerman-address_n_1385071.html)

'William Zimmerman contacted Higgins to ask him to stop using his mother's address and got the response, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" as well as an obscenity, according to the Sentinel report.'

So what if the wrong address was posted. They're still named Zimmerman and they're white! :rolleyes:

[kaiser soze]

that is shitty - I hope someone helps them out (Spike Lee?)

social media isn't always right =(

[Turchinator]

people shouldn't be angered at people's misinformed responses as much as they are angered that a teenager got shot down in the streets in cold blood.

but they are, and they are mad that people call Zimmerman white.

the same people who call Obama a half breed muslim are defending Zimmerman's latinoness, now. hmmm...

[Dorothy Wood]

the us census considers hispanic americans to be white, I'm sorry to tell you valvano.

but your talking point smear campaign has already made its way around the Internet and back. you're a little late.

I don't give a crap who's a registered democrat, republican, or alien for that matter.

I don't give a crap the race of the shooter or the victim.

I don't give a crap about the arrest record or *gasp* high school discipline file of either.

you're just hating all this attention this young kid is getting for being black and murdered and all, aren't you?

do yourself a favor and post the fake photo of Trayvon that isn't Trayvon looking all gangster and don't forget to use the phrase "liberal media bias"

Agree.


Also, so what if the parents are trademarking "I am Trayvon" or other phrases with his name, if they don't, somebody will.


Valvano, you see, it doesn't matter what race either person was. It was wrong for Zimmerman to follow and confront somebody and then shoot them. Even if Trayvon was walking around with a bag full of stolen jewels and a ski mask. You can't just start a tussle, then shoot the person when they fight back.

All these excuses people are giving for Zimmerman's behavior are more racist than what happened. Basically, the opinion is that Trayvon was an amateur gangsta, so it doesn't matter that his life was taken. Which is a fucked up opinion. By that logic, anyone can just go up to people they find suspicious and fight them to the death. I'm gonna try that this weekend, gonna wait around outside bars in my neighborhood and "patrol". If I see a drunk obnoxious frat boy type, I'll start following him, then confront him and shoot him in the chest when he puts up a fight. Because he looks like a date rapist. If he hasn't raped anyone, he would probably rape someone, so it's fine for me to shoot him even if he's unarmed. right? I'm just looking out for my neighborhood, right? He probably got suspended in high school a couple of times anyway.

:rolleyes:

[Whatitis]

people shouldn't be angered at people's misinformed responses as much as they are angered that a teenager got shot down in the streets in cold blood.

Nice way to incorrectly spin my emotions but you're missing my point. This whole situation is inciting more hatred than it is helping.

[Turchinator]

Nice way to incorrectly spin my emotions but you're missing my point. This whole situation is inciting more hatred than it is helping.

it wasn't aimed at you or your emotions, this has been my take on the matter since I was following the story in early March. some people have been focusing their ire on the perceived race of the killer as presented in the media instead of the killer himself, for gunning down a teenager. I've been saying this all along.

but I see your point, and I agree on some level.

[kaiser soze]

Agree.


I'm gonna try that this weekend, gonna wait around outside bars in my neighborhood and "patrol". If I see a drunk obnoxious frat boy type, I'll start following him, then confront him and shoot him in the chest when he puts up a fight. Because he looks like a date rapist. If he hasn't raped anyone, he would probably rape someone, so it's fine for me to shoot him even if he's unarmed. right? I'm just looking out for my neighborhood, right? He probably got suspended in high school a couple of times anyway.



give that woman a cape!!!

but yes - the character assassination of this teenager is unremarkable

considering - he's dead

I wonder if anyone in the neighborhood knew Zimmerman was playing cop and carrying and if they were concerned that this may occur - what would have been the outcome if a stray bullet killed someone?

[kaiser soze]

video at Sanford PD shows Zimmerman - clear of grass stains, blood/bruises/injuries on his face and back of head as claimed before

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475

so neat and tidy for a struggle on the ground in the rain - no blood, dirt, not even looking the least bit concerned about the ordeal

[kaiser soze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re7vZ9uEsXs

police without gloves not too concerned about blood borne diseases or possible evidence contamination...maybe another gun as well? Love how he walks AROUND the bike without the officer even taking a glance. I've seen peaceful protesters "handled" with more scrutiny.

[Burnout18]

Great videos and finds and shoots down a lot of self defense videos.

I hate to harp on the media, but did anyone read shout the picture Michelle Malkin posted? I believe it was some random gangbanger lookin kid ad she claimed it w an updated photo of Martin.

[kaiser soze]

don't post while poopin'

what did malkin do?

Link?

pic?

[yeahwho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=re7vZ9uEsXs

wow. just wow.

Who in their right fucking mind feels they can justify shooting someone behind a block watch program?

I am convinced this is malfeasance upon the Sanford Police Department bordering on complicity in murder.

Trayvon Martin had just turned 17 on February 5th, killed February 26 carrying skittles home.

xlnt wiki page on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin#Against_the_Sanford_pol ice)

[kaiser soze]

a comment from youtube

Man. This guy looks like a skinhead or a esay. Did he ever think how suspicious he looked.

could've been an m-13 member for all that trayvon knew - seeing that wearing a hoodie and being a "coon"...I mean "goon" will get you stalked and then killed

why not looking like another kind of thug would make this kid "Stand His Ground"

[Turchinator]

don't post while poopin'

what did malkin do?

Link?

pic?


it's the fake photo I referenced earlier. she posted it on her new twitter aggregator site twitchy... guess where it originated from?
Stormfront

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zqvomo.jpg

http://twitchy.com/2012/03/25/why-teamdueprocess-is-important-for-justice/?utm_source=Gawker+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7e5931ece6-UA-142218-2&utm_medium=email

what a sad state of affairs.

media bias goes both ways. once an ignorant moron sees this you cannot convince him or her otherwise that it's a fake.

[kaiser soze]

you wouldn't have Twitter without the Twits

I would think that "celebs" would be quick to vet the information they retweet for fear of being held responsible for an libel, damaging, or offensive messages. Not very bright misinforming the masses no matter what side you are on.

supposedly this is George Zimmerman's dad on hate

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-zimmermans-father-tells-sons-self-defense-version-of-trayvon-martins-shooting/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LnEQQnj7eXo#!

it's not hate - it's justice people are seeking

[kaiser soze]

and having been a judge you'd think this guy would know a thing or two about justice

[BBboy20]

Footage of Zimmerman in the police station on the night of the shooting. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5OiLQjUcOU&feature=BFa&list=HL1333019042&lf=mh_lolz)

He doesn't look injured. Like, at all.

[kaiser soze]

Zimmerman and friends take a walk around the police station - multiple cameras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9WWDNbQUgm4

for someone who was fighting for his life - he sure looks great!!

[kaiser soze]

And now the innocent get caught in the crossfire (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/spike-lee-zimmerman-address_n_1385071.html)

'William Zimmerman contacted Higgins to ask him to stop using his mother's address and got the response, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" as well as an obscenity, according to the Sentinel report.'

So what if the wrong address was posted. They're still named Zimmerman and they're white! :rolleyes:

Looks like Lee did the right thing - finally, never should have done that in the first place

[yeahwho]

So is this really happening?

Zimmerman walks free and the kid with the candy is guilty?

The feds are investigating what?

Every day that passes by I get more fucking pissed off. Arrest this guy, he is innocent until proven guilty, he can post bail.

The justice system should be on trial here.

[abbott]

hispanic = white = black and we are all together...

Yesterday someone asked me if I had heard the news about a white guy shooting a black kid with candy...

I think it is funny, because Hispanics in my state do not want to be considered white. Hispanics in my state get tax breaks and several incentives for being Hispanic and not white. I think Asians are more white than Hispanics myself.

So what does Hispanic mean? well according to Hispanics it means they are from Spain by way of Mexico. 100 years in Mexico before they headed north...

In Santa Fe New Mexico as a "white" kid, I remember my principle welcoming me to the school and telling me that I am a minority now and that I should expect to get my ass kicked a few times for being white. Luckily, my dark skin confused the locals and they thought I was Hispanic. I also made a point to stay away from the low rider cholos which proved to be smart as I saw many of good looking white girls get their ass kicked for being white a Hispanic event. One friend is blind from the Cholo/Chola ass kicking.

So for the Mexico/Spanish/Latino/Hispanic people, don't refer to them as white, I am sure you are offending them.

[yeahwho]

This has become an enormous race issue and that is fine. It should be looked at and examined, which Charles Blow did in his excellent NYTimes article yesterday, From OJ to Trayvon http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/07/opinion/blow-from-oj-to-trayvon.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Blow&st=cse

If I just clear my head and look at it without race, it's my kid coming home from 7-11 on a rainy night and he gets killed by another human, it's time for my tax dollars and the justice system to go to work.

I think this Zimmerman should be arrested. He was told to "stand down" by an 911 operator yet he pursued and eventually killed a 17 year old kid.

Fucks Sakes what sort of evidence does it take? He needs to be arrested, charged and tried.

[kaiser soze]

He didn't listen to the dispatcher, continued to stalk and killed a kid

no Standing Ground here - more like Stalking Ground

what is wrong with this picture?

[DJ Pioneer]

I don't want to take sides, I could see arguments for both of them. Supposedly, there was a witness who saw Trayvon on top of George, slamming him into the sidewalk. Also, I've heard that George tutored black children in the community for free and in 2010, he got very vocal about the "beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white Sanford police officer." He doesn't necessarily fit the typical description of someone who is overly racist.

I think it was wrong for Obama to say "If I had a boy, he would look like Trayvon."

I think it was wrong that no arrest was made unless there truly wasn't any good reason to do so (which seems unlikely at this point).

I think it was wrong for NBC to edit the 911 recording to make it seem like Zimmerman was saying something racist ("He looks like he's up to no good...he looks black," taking out the dispatcher asking him what race Trayvon was).

I think it was wrong for Spike Lee and Roseanne Barr and anyone else to tweet Zimmerman's address to the world (though it was the wrong address and happened to be an elderly couple's who had nothing to do with this).

I think it was wrong for the New Black Panthers to put a bounty on Zimmerman's head.

And possibly most importantly, I think it was wrong for Zimmerman to approach Trayvon after the 911 dispatcher clearly told him not to do so. If he stayed back, we wouldn't be discussing this situation.

[Helvete]

So who really was the baby daddy?

[kaiser soze]

I think it was wrong a man shot a kid in cold blood and got away with it

[yeahwho]

If you are a citizen of the United States and have kids you should be outraged. If this was the Governor's kid, a celebrities kid, a Fortune 500 executives kid, a police officers kid.... well you get it.

We pay taxes for fair representation and justice should be served equally. Arrest the shooter and try him. He says he's innocent and so does some of the Sanford police dept. Unfortunately this case is botched. Appearances of simply being overtaken make 0 sense.

There's a difference between block watch and actual pursuit. Let's have a trial and define the difference.

[yeahwho]

Zimmerman has a website now, http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/The_facts.html, and he is asking for donations.

Probably because the special prosecutor Angela Corey announced she will not take the case to a grand jury (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-09/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-no-grand-jury-20120409_1_grand-jury-prosecutor-angela-corey-clay-and-nassau-counties).

Lawyers trying to interpret that move differed on what it means, but one point is now unequivocal: Prosecutor Angela Corey will not charge Zimmerman with first-degree murder. That requires an indictment by a grand jury.


It's still a mystery as of today what charges if any will be filed. The pressure must be unreal for prosecutor Angela B. Corey (http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2012/04/10/us/COREY-2.html), they say she's bad ass... I'm not sure if they mean it in a literal sense or physical sense.

[kaiser soze]

Zimmerman's lawyers bail - citing lost contact

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-zimmermans-lawyers-withdraw-as-his-counsel-after-losing-contact-with-him/

[Whatitis]

Charged, 2nd degree murder.

[kaiser soze]

tack on "stalking" and filing a false police report/false information in an attempt to hide a crime (if he didn't sustain any true injuries according to his/brother's/father's/friend's story)

next stop - the scumbags of the Sanford Police Dept....looks like that place needs an enema for their poor handling of this case.

ya know, if this asshole didn't pretended to play sheriff for his Neighborhood Watch - a kid would be alive and he wouldn't be charged with murder.

[yeahwho]

I'm surprised there no charges pressed involving his garish website. It's hideous looking.

[kaiser soze]

Long Live Zimmerman!

:rolleyes:

the guy is not only a murderer, but an idiot

from GMA spread the Word and warnings...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0ucx8ABgP8w#t=140s

anyone else catch that?

[yeahwho]

He looks like shit (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Charles-Manson-via-AFP.jpg)

[yeahwho]

my bad, here (http://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/pee_wee_herman_mugshot.jpg?w=370)

[yeahwho]

sorry (http://truthaboutabsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/RichardSimmons-290x333.jpg)

[kaiser soze]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/12/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

how could a sweet looking....wait, this guy assaulted a woman and a cop before this murder

[yeahwho]

It took 46 days to arrest Zimmerman. From the erratic behavior he put on public display in the previous days before his arrest I think he knows his goose is cooked.

On his website he states the shooting was a "life altering" event for him. That bullshit sympathy seeker makes me sick to my stomach. Trayvon Martin had a "life altering" event, death.

Like he said during the now infamous 911 recording,

Zimmerman stated 'these a**holes, they always get away," and also said 'these f****** punks.' "

Mr. Zimmerman, I am proud to say it looks as though one of these a**hole f****** punks is not going to get away.

May 29th will be the next court date.

[Helvete]

He'll get off. BOOM!

[yeahwho]

He'll get off. BOOM!

That could happen, he is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. The burden is on the prosecutor now, not Zimmerman.

The lead up to the arrest is problematic, an unarmed teenager is murdered by an adult with a gun and there is evidence readily available that the adult systematically pursued a teenager with a loaded gun.

It's not the type of world I want to live in nor do millions of others. At least now we'll get to find out why Zimmerman was let free. That's all anybody needs to know.

[yeahwho]

A Denver artist created a portrait of Florida shooting suspect George Zimmerman using more than 12,000 Skittles.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-zimmerman-skittles-portrait-20120414,0,4695483.story

[yeahwho]

‘I Am Sorry,’ Zimmerman Says as Bail Set at $150,000 (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-zimmerman-20120421,0,7559759.story)

"I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son," Zimmerman said, addressing the parents of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who were in attendance. "I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am, and I did not know if he was armed or not."

"I did not know if he was armed or not."

OOPS. That comment sort of blows the self-defense claim.

[JoLovesMCA]

His apology doesn't appear to be sincere. I think he's more worried about himself.

And that's a very good point. If it were self defense then why go make a comment like that? Because he's lying!

[kaiser soze]

wow only $150,000?

he's getting treated too nicely

"didn't know he was armed or not" what does that mean?

If this guy was concerned the kid was armed he would have stayed put when the dispatcher told him to do so.

[yeahwho]

Suspect’s Bond Is Revoked in Trayvon Martin Shooting (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/us/bond-revoked-for-suspect-in-martin-shooting.html)

During an afternoon hearing in Sanford, Fla., a Seminole County Circuit Court judge, Kenneth R. Lester Jr., ordered Mr. Zimmerman, 28, a former neighborhood watch volunteer who aspired to be a judge, to surrender to authorities within 48 hours.

Judge Lester made his ruling shortly after an assistant state attorney, Bernardo de la Rionda, argued that Mr. Zimmerman and his wife, Shellie, had “lied” and “were very deceptive” about the state of their finances during a bail hearing for Mr. Zimmerman on April 20 that cleared the way for his release from jail on $150,000 bond.


George Zimmerman changed his view of Sanford police, (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-changed-view-sanford-police-files-show-183527228.html)

files showZimmerman's relationship with police has been in the spotlight, with critics charging that he received preferential treatment from the city's department as a part of the neighborhood watch program, according to media reports. These new findings come days after four witnesses in the highly publicized case changed their stories, some "in ways that may damage" Zimmerman.

I feel so sorry for Trayvon's parents, the credibility issue over Zimmerman, Sanford police and now even the witnesses (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-shooting-witnesses-change-stories-ahead-zimmerman-133743219.html) is finally surfacing for all of us to see.

This trial will be huge.

[likeman]

911 instructed him not to pursue the "suspicious" person

the asshole couldn't follow the rules of the organization he was head of - fuck him, he may survive a stiff criminal sentence but you bet your bottom dollar he won't be living in a gated community in a couple years cuz a civil suit will fuck him up

yes i agree with you,man!:D