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Jay Stone
05-24-2012, 05:08 PM
We've all seen the still of them in the supermarket with Nas, this video needs to be seen now. Do it for Adam! His lyrics in the original version are eerie now...

GrapeApe
05-24-2012, 05:25 PM
Ya it especially creeped me out when they released the updated version and he changed them. Made me feel like his confidence was down.

I still prefer the original lyrics, in a way he will never die, his music will always be around.

Brass Monk
05-24-2012, 06:36 PM
Ya it especially creeped me out when they released the updated version and he changed them. Made me feel like his confidence was down.

I still prefer the original lyrics, in a way he will never die, his music will always be around.

I preferred the newer verse.

Was there an actual video made or are we just assuming from the picture?

Billy Corbitt
05-24-2012, 07:49 PM
i love that song

pshabi
05-24-2012, 10:07 PM
I preferred the newer verse.

Was there an actual video made or are we just assuming from the picture?

Assuming.

I think from the evidence we have so far we can deduce that they at least did a photo shoot!!!!!:D

My theory is that they at least filmed a shot of them doing the song in a supermarket. Probably didn't get too far and never made it to Production phase. Seeing a one shot take of that would be iller than anything they could produce!

Just dreamin'.........:)

Brass Monk
05-24-2012, 10:53 PM
Assuming.

I think from the evidence we have so far we can deduce that they at least did a photo shoot!!!!!:D

My theory is that they at least filmed a shot of them doing the song in a supermarket. Probably didn't get too far and never made it to Production phase. Seeing a one shot take of that would be iller than anything they could produce!

Just dreamin'.........:)

Yeah even if it was just a photo shoot and not a video, it would still be pretty cool to see

MCScoobyT
05-24-2012, 10:58 PM
It's a video...
Why pull Nas in just for a photo shoot???

Better yet, someone on here who tweets... ask Nas what it was on Twitter. There is no reason he wouldn't tell us now

silence7
05-25-2012, 12:59 AM
Better yet, someone on here who tweets... ask Nas what it was on Twitter.

Done: https://twitter.com/beastiemixes/status/205915782830493697

dave790
05-25-2012, 02:39 AM
On a slightly different note, I still can't really accept how this version (from the radio??) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNB8pNqwrKw sounds better than the mp3 released...

LuciferHam
05-25-2012, 03:31 AM
Fuck man, the original version of TMR is the real classic track from Hot Sauce, wish they kept they original on the album. And finished the video. Ah well.

Just kills Make Some Noise IMO

Kid Presentable
05-25-2012, 03:50 AM
On a slightly different note, I still can't really accept how this version (from the radio??) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNB8pNqwrKw sounds better than the mp3 released...
I was so bummed out by the version I bought. They made up for it, though.

Laver1969
05-25-2012, 07:23 AM
Ya it especially creeped me out when they released the updated version and he changed them. Made me feel like his confidence was down.

I still prefer the original lyrics, in a way he will never die, his music will always be around.

Yauch's verse...never die b/c death is the cousin of sleep. Aughhh....

brooklyndust
05-25-2012, 07:25 AM
Yauch's verse...never die b/c death is the cousin of sleep. Aughhh....

There is a few lyrics that when I listen to I cringe.

brooklyndust
05-25-2012, 07:27 AM
I like the original better than the reactionaries version. Would love to see this video surface like the Chappelle one did.

Megalon X
05-25-2012, 08:38 AM
Definitely prefer the album version. The beat is more hard hitting for sure. MCA's lyrics are also better I think. I like the Blade Runner reference. "Like a Nexus-6, comin' home to roost." Now that I think about that, that's ERRIE as f*** as well. >__< Did he write that on purpose? Seems like too big of a coincidence. That's like the whole plot of that movie, knowing you're going to expire.

DthatsME
05-25-2012, 08:59 AM
Definitely prefer the album version. The beat is more hard hitting for sure. MCA's lyrics are also better I think. I like the Blade Runner reference. "Like a Nexus-6, comin' home to roost." Now that I think about that, that's ERRIE as f*** as well. >__< Did he write that on purpose? Seems like too big of a coincidence. That's like the whole plot of that movie, knowing you're going to expire.

Wow. I can't believe I never thought of the meaning of the Nexus-6 thing before. It's Yauch, man. I really really doubt that's just a coincidence.

If he was sneakin in things like that so early on, I can't imagine what he was layin down in those last sessions.

laurie_hammy
05-25-2012, 09:40 AM
Im a fan of the older version mainly because of the shorter intro so I can get straight into rappin it.

Billy Corbitt
05-25-2012, 10:19 AM
Done: https://twitter.com/beastiemixes/status/205915782830493697


I hope he sees that, looks like he get tweeted to once every 5 minutes.

Jiberish
05-25-2012, 11:23 AM
That's why I replied to it. Hopefully if enough people ask him he will see it and respond.

Brass Monk
05-25-2012, 11:42 AM
I wonder if Nas could be reluctant to answer because it was a Beastie project. He might think that the question would be best answered by Mike D or Adrock.

But thanks to the guy who's asked him on twitter. I would if I had twitter.

And I liked the Album version much better than the original. It's interesting how there seems to be a divided opinion on which one is better.

Bernard Goetz
06-27-2012, 06:51 AM
Last night (for the first time since 5/4) I heard Yauch's OG opening verse from Too Many Rappers and it floored me. I remembered it being discussed a little here (Nexus-6/cousin of sleep) so I searched and found this thread.
The changes he made - the only lyrical changes on the song/album, I believe - are really intense in context.

Original:
Yo, I been in the game since before you was born
I might still be MCin' even after you're gone
Strange thought, I know, but my skills still grow
The 80's, the 90's, 2000's, and so
On and on until the crack of dawn
Until the year 3000 and beyond
Stay up all night, and I MC and never die
Cause death is the cousin of sleep


Replacement:
Like a Nexus-6, comin' home to roost
Handheld 58 when it's time to get loose
Don't need the ear goggles, just put me through the speakers
Like a scientist with tubes and beakers
Have MCs over my house and fix 'em brunch
But you rappers? We goin' out, goin' dutch
So pass me the sword, I'll start swingin'
Just randomly chopping on a crazy ass mission

He took out all references to living long, and inserted a line comparing himself to a type of android that is "genetically designed to have a very short lifespan of just a few years (http://bladerunner.wikia.com/wiki/Nexus-6)."
I know, it's kind of fuckin' depressing to focus on this, and lots of you have already addressed it, but I think it's interesting enough that others might have wanted to see. I don't know. Man.

Kid Presentable
06-27-2012, 08:25 AM
Last night (for the first time since 5/4) I heard Yauch's OG opening verse from Too Many Rappers and it floored me. I remembered it being discussed a little here (Nexus-6/cousin of sleep) so I searched and found this thread.
The changes he made - the only lyrical changes on the song/album, I believe - are really intense in context.

Original:



Replacement:


He took out all references to living long, and inserted a line comparing himself to a type of android that is "genetically designed to have a very short lifespan of just a few years (http://bladerunner.wikia.com/wiki/Nexus-6)."
I know, it's kind of fuckin' depressing to focus on this, and lots of you have already addressed it, but I think it's interesting enough that others might have wanted to see. I don't know. Man.

Yeah it's a really good point, eerie as hell. I think he knew the flavour of the boards a lot, to be honest, and changed up his first verse partly based on stuff people posted here about the OG version. The never die bit may have been one he probably wanted to change due to his circumstance, though. That would have easily sealed the deal.

But they didn't change the hook on B-Boys in the Cut, for example, which is weird.

What I like about the New Reactionaries verse is the ambiguity around brunch/blunts and the use of the word 'dutch'. Real subtle shit, but real crafty way to make it sound on some PB shit. He got so good at working his style around his philosophy. And yeah maybe treatments just made brunch hard to enunciate, but to me it still sounds just enough like 'blunts' to be dope.

Then again also he changed his 2nd and 3rd verse (I think??) in Here's a Little Somethin for Ya. No more reference to reconstructive surgery. I dig that he still considered himself lucky to have dodged the bullet of addiction, and put it in a verse, even while undergoing treatment.

I like that he considered himself lucky to be able to spend his time with his wife and daughter, even as his illness was winning.

Telling stuff, great man.

pshabi
06-27-2012, 08:28 AM
RIP YAUCH

laurie_hammy
06-27-2012, 10:11 AM
No response from Nas on twitter ?

JoLovesMCA
06-27-2012, 10:31 AM
Damn.

I had already been thinking about his lyrics and how they are a prophetic. Is that the word? I don't know. For me personally as far as Adam is concerned I was always a fan of his message, his lyrics. I took extra time to read through them and pick it apart. I was doing that with Flowin Prose the other day. I came up with some interesting theories on what he's talking about! Was a lot of fun and therapeutic for me actually.

All I can say is that he was sent her to give a message through his talent and after that he was just too damn special to carry on and had bigger and better things to do. I imagine he's doing them right now and I am happy for him, but fuck it still hurts. :/

venusvenus123
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
^I think that we are all sent here to give messages to the world:o

On a slightly different note, I still can't really accept how this version (from the radio??) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNB8pNqwrKw sounds better than the mp3 released...

hardcore! i love it. will probably be released as a remix surely?

those lyric changes are interesting. One thing I'm pretty sure about: adam yauch would have been ready to accept death.

hornblower77
06-28-2012, 02:29 PM
I'm 98% sure there is a video to TMR. I remember seeing when it was released as a single on iTunes well before THSCPII was released, prob back in '09. Can't remember if it was on iTunes or somewhere else, but siince then I've searched and searched, and nothing. So maybe I was dreaming :confused: