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JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 10:46 AM
MANHATTAN — Late Beastie Boys member MCA made sure he would never be a corporate sellout — even in the afterlife.
The pioneering rapper, whose real name is Adam Yauch, instructed in his will that his image, music and any art he created could not be used for advertising, saving himself from the fate of other deceased musicians whose faces and songs have become corporate shills.
Yauch's will, filed Tuesday in Manhattan Surrogate Court, says the Brooklyn native's entire fortune of $6.4 million should be placed in a trust for his wife, Dechen Yauch, and their 13-year-old daughter. It also says Dechen has the right to sell and manage his artistic property.
Yauch died May 4 at the age of 47 from salivary cancer, just days after the Beastie Boys were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Yauch founded the Beastie Boys with rappers Ad-Rock and Mike D, and has co-writing credits on the band's most famous songs, including "No Sleep till Brooklyn," "Fight for Your Right (to Party)," "Sabotage" and "Hey Ladies."
It's unclear whether Yauch's will would prevent his bandmates from ever selling the music they wrote together to advertisers. Yauch's lawyer and a spokesman for the Beastie Boys did not respond to requests for comment.
A champion of Buddhism and Tibet, Yauch also directed music videos and the group's concert film, "Awesome; I F---in' Shot That!"
Corporations have regulalry enlisted deceased musicians, celebrities and historical figures in ads. In 1997, Apple used the images of John Lennon, Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi in a black-and-white commercial to launch its "Think Different" campaign.
Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120809/new-york-city/late-beastie-boy-adam-yauchs-will-says-dont-use-his-music-ads#ixzz234MhjnRK
Adam my message to you is that we will make sure of it! We won't see your music in Advertising! :cool:
Kid Presentable
08-09-2012, 10:59 AM
Thanks for posting this. (y)
JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 11:04 AM
There. Took those links off!
You are welcome!
Kid Presentable
08-09-2012, 11:08 AM
Funny thing about the article: as if the other two would even want to sell the shit to advertisers. :rolleyes:
JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 11:11 AM
Funny thing about the article: as if the other two would even want to sell the shit to advertisers. :rolleyes:
Yeah you're right. I thought about that. Even with Adam gone, they still have to get through Horovitz and Mike. We know all three Beasties were in agreement with the way their music was handled. I think our two surviving boys are going to be that much more protective of everything without Yauch. Yeah. :/
Laver1969
08-09-2012, 11:16 AM
Thanks for posting Jo.
Kid Presentable
08-09-2012, 11:17 AM
Glad he looked after his loved ones.
It's a big milestone, the whole estate thing. Now it's really really real. Which is to say I'm sure it's already been super-fucking-real for those close to him. When dealing with loss, this stage is important in healing, in my opinion.
JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 11:33 AM
You know this is kinda crazy but it makes me feel good. I mean to hear he is still in control of his ART, his MUSIC...the same way he was when he was still physically with us all.. It’s like he’s still here. Just makes me feel good even though I am still crushed when I think about everything that’s happened these past few months.
The Ron
08-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Damn...cool shit
cj hood
08-09-2012, 12:41 PM
No way he's only worth $6.4 mill???
Extra Cheese
08-09-2012, 01:04 PM
No way he's only worth $6.4 mill???
I was actually thinking the opposite. For someone who splits Major Label money equally three ways and who has dropped a paltry 8 albums in roughly 26 years I thought it would be less.
Tam_Tam
08-09-2012, 01:21 PM
I remember watching an interview of his where he said he wasn't worth as much as some would think because they don't do any endorsements. He went on to explain that's where most artists make big money.
I did see a psa while I was in the airport that had "Make Some Noise" in the background. It had Grant Hill in it and some other people. It was something about anti-gay bashing.
cj hood
08-09-2012, 01:28 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-rappers/adam-yauch-aka-mca-net-worth/
Extra Cheese
08-09-2012, 01:57 PM
that is his worth, which i say is rather generous, not how much he actually had. If he allowed his music to be used commercially than perhaps 75 million might be attainable. but i definitely would not believe him to have 75 mill in the bank.
Brother McDuff
08-09-2012, 03:00 PM
still makin ill moves, even after he's passed. this guy never quits (y)
Bernard Goetz
08-09-2012, 03:14 PM
Yeah, this has made my day.
MCA4ever
08-09-2012, 03:29 PM
Yeah, this has made my day.
Mike & Adrock are on it :)
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2012/08/09/beastie_boys_sue_the_makers_of_monster
Gabriely
08-09-2012, 03:43 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/adam-yauchs-will-prohibits-use-of-his-music-in-ads-20120809
FLO MASTER
08-09-2012, 03:58 PM
No way he's only worth $6.4 mill???
I agree with you. everytime a song is played on the radio, they get some money. Im kind of saddened that they didnt want thier music to be be played for commercials for years to come. i wonder if it covers movies, video games and other items?
Heather_D
08-09-2012, 04:19 PM
I agree with you. everytime a song is played on the radio, they get some money. Im kind of saddened that they didnt want thier music to be be played for commercials for years to come. i wonder if it covers movies, video games and other items?
I would interpret it to mean that an endorsement by him could possibly be perceived and lead to higher sales for products. I don't think a movie soundtrack would constitute that. But good for him ensuring his wishes will be respected.
JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 04:34 PM
I am kinda glad they are disallowing this because for me personally I never liked hearing an artist song used in a TV ad. They have allowed certain songs to be used in movies/soundtracks so I am sure we will still see that.
Heather_D
08-09-2012, 04:40 PM
I am kinda glad they are disallowing this because for me personally I never liked hearing an artist song used in a TV ad. They have allowed certain songs to be used in movies/soundtracks so I am sure we will still see that.
I agree. And I think that sends a huge message that it's not about the money. It's about the art & people enjoying it- not being reminded of a certain product every time they hear a certain song. I hate that.
LilTreyR
08-09-2012, 05:27 PM
I would interpret it to mean that an endorsement by him could possibly be perceived and lead to higher sales for products
That's usually the intention of companies making deals with artist, to make $.
Think it's kinda cool that he made provisions like that. Doesn't surprise me though, that's how Yauch lived his life- his way. He made sure his two girls were taken care of and that is all that really matters.
FLO MASTER
08-09-2012, 05:32 PM
I always liked hearing a song on a commercial. it always meant that more people would hear thier music.
the amount that was left to his wife and daughter doesnt mean that is what he was worth nor didnt it mean that's all that he had had before he died. I am sure there was more money in other investments. I dont care to hear nor know what else he had. it makes me want to cry to even think about it. I know I am a guy and im am not supposed to cry but I wish he was still alive. I wished the beastie boys would have outlived me.
MCA4ever
08-09-2012, 05:45 PM
I always liked hearing a song on a commercial. it always meant that more people would hear thier music.
the amount that was left to his wife and daughter doesnt mean that is what he was worth nor didnt it mean that's all that he had had before he died. I am sure there was more money in other investments. I dont care to hear nor know what else he had. it makes me want to cry to even think about it. I know I am a guy and im am not supposed to cry but I wish he was still alive. I wished the beastie boys would have outlived me.
FM- its ok for you to cry. I can tell you a really feeling down right now :( I have never understood making people's wills public knowledge. It's just so personal. Its really no ones business.
JoLovesMCA
08-09-2012, 06:19 PM
Well perhaps certain portions Adam wanted public. Like this one pertaining to his art and music. I can see him wanting to make that statement. He was always about protecting the Beastie Boys image and music… I would hope they keep the rest of it private though.
Thank you again for everything Adam.
Brass Monk
08-09-2012, 08:55 PM
Funny thing about the article: as if the other two would even want to sell the shit to advertisers. :rolleyes:
If history has taught us anything, it's that even the artists with the most integrity can get tempted.
However, the Beastie Boys' history also seems to suggest that they are on another level when it comes to having integrity and not following what others have done.
hornblower77
08-09-2012, 10:09 PM
Man, can these guys possibly endear us any more? Adam, you are a badass. period.... I can't tell you how cool it is to see he did this. Thanks for reminding us that not everyone is all about $$.
YoungRemy
08-10-2012, 09:51 AM
I remember watching an interview of his where he said he wasn't worth as much as some would think because they don't do any endorsements. He went on to explain that's where most artists make big money.
I did see a psa while I was in the airport that had "Make Some Noise" in the background. It had Grant Hill in it and some other people. It was something about anti-gay bashing.
yeah, it was an (anti?) anti-gay PSA for the NBA community.
it appears they have drawn the line in the past where they would lend their material for a good cause or something they were passionate about- whether it is used in film or tv or for a PSA like this.
very different than selling out your song for a Cadillac ad (I'm looking at you, Jimmy Page)
total artistic integrity and control, even in death.
that's how bad ass Yauch is and was...
paperdali
08-10-2012, 11:30 AM
I would hope they keep the rest of it private though.
Wills are public record in NY.
MCAadROCKMiKEd7
08-10-2012, 12:21 PM
I just saw this yesterday when Khloe tweeted it, i totally wasnt surprised at all that he insists he not be in any advertising. standing true forever.
JoLovesMCA
08-10-2012, 12:35 PM
Yeah I don’t think any fans are really surprised, but the public well obviously they are intrigued because they are reporting on it. And did Monster really think they could get away with using so many Beastie songs in their ads? Here’s a bigger analysis of the law suit. Go MIKE and Adam!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805)
Bernard Goetz
08-10-2012, 12:48 PM
Yeah I don’t think any fans are really surprised, but the public well obviously they are intrigued because they are reporting on it. And did Monster really think they could get away with using so many Beastie songs in their ads? Here’s a bigger analysis of the law suit. Go MIKE and Adam!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805)
"Monster caused a link to a downloadable audio recording (the "MP3") embodying a 23-minute medley of excerpts from the Beastie Boys Sound Recordings, the Beastie Boys Musical Compositions and the sound recordings and musical compositions comprising the additional Beastie Boys MP3 Copyrights...in conjunction with the Video, together with an offer that the MP3 was available for free download."
So confused.
MCA4ever
08-10-2012, 12:48 PM
Yeah I don’t think any fans are really surprised, but the public well obviously they are intrigued because they are reporting on it. And did Monster really think they could get away with using so many Beastie songs in their ads? Here’s a bigger analysis of the law suit. Go MIKE and Adam!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805)
Excellent article!
The link to Rights Of Publicity article is pretty interesting as well.
http://rightofpublicity.com/brief-history-of-rop
Bernard Goetz
08-10-2012, 12:53 PM
That article is in great need of an editor.
And Monster is alleged to have used the promotional video, and caused others to take MP3s, with text that suggested some form of endorsement from the band
What the hell does "caused others to take MP3s" mean?
JoLovesMCA
08-10-2012, 12:53 PM
Excellent article!
The link to Rights Of Publicity article is pretty interesting as well.
http://rightofpublicity.com/brief-history-of-rop
Thanks, I'll be sure to check that one out too. (y)
@Bernard Goetz- I got a headache reading the excerpt. A lot of these music/audio copyright laws are quite confusing.
Edit: lol.. yes they do need a good editor!
MCA4ever
08-10-2012, 01:17 PM
This is the part that confuses me the most- not real sure what he is saying here???
" Yes, two of the three Beasties are claiming rights over their voices, which isn't the first time it's happened -- ask Tom Waits or Bette Midler -- but nevertheless it's unusual.
Also, notice which member is not included in the above claim. No MCA. Could it be because in cases that involved Marilyn Monroe, New York courts have been skeptical that its state laws allow celebrities to devise by will their publicity rights? Never mind the news that has also just came out that says that in Yauch's just-made-public will, he banned the use of his image, music and art in advertising.
We can't settle the issue of whether the ghost of MCA is really protecting his legacy. Others can make that call. But the details of this dispute are far more interesting and thought-provoking than most have thus far suggested."
Bernard Goetz
08-10-2012, 02:01 PM
It's a shitty article that only confuses things.
JoLovesMCA
08-10-2012, 02:06 PM
Wow okay so Dechen is involved. Dechen, Mike and Horovitz are suing.... Rollingstone clears it up well!
In a suit filed yesterday in New York federal court by Mike Diamond, Adam Horovitz and Denchen Yauch, Yauch's widow and the executor of his estate, the Beastie Boys claim that Monster included parts of "Sabotage," "So Whatcha Want," Make Some Noise" and "Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun" in a promotional video posted on Monster's website, along with a 23-minute medley of Beastie Boys songs made available for download as an mp3. The songs were taken from footage of a live set by DJ Z-Trip at the Monster-sponsored Canadian festival Ruckus in the Rockies, held a few days after Yauch died in May.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beastie-boys-sue-monster-energy-drink-over-unauthorized-songs-20120810#ixzz23AxGUSYC
Tam_Tam
08-10-2012, 02:33 PM
I'm confused as to what the Hollywood Reporter's writer's point is. Is he saying that since the band was sued then they forfeit the right of doing the same?
It seems pretty cut and dry to me. Monster is using intellectual and artistic properties that they do not have the right nor have been given authority to. Cease and desist and have a great day.
martijn
08-10-2012, 03:21 PM
I agree with you. everytime a song is played on the radio, they get some money. Im kind of saddened that they didnt want thier music to be be played for commercials for years to come. i wonder if it covers movies, video games and other items?
They did the right thing for not allowing their songs beiing used for commercials. You don't want it when you hear a beastie boys song and you have to think about a Big Mag (n) or some weird energy drink...
beasties#1fan
08-10-2012, 03:24 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-rappers/adam-yauch-aka-mca-net-worth/
Adam "Andrew" Nathaniel Yauch?
Yeah I was surprised to see only 6.4 also, but thats what I've always loved about the beasties, they portray that money isnt everything...They are so down to earth.
BboyLover#1
08-10-2012, 03:47 PM
Yeah I was surprised to see only 6.4 also, but thats what I've always loved about the beasties, they portray that money isnt everything...They are so down to earth.
I think people on here were surprised to see it was ONLY 6.4. You seem impressed that it was 6.4. :o
MCA4ever
08-10-2012, 04:37 PM
It's a shitty article that only confuses things.
Your right ;) liked that at first glance it explained about the mix tape and the video and the free download but when you go back and really read it ??? Like what was the point of him bringing up the suit filed against the beasties right before Adam passed- all he did was bring up how the plantiff was "jeered" by the media. Not too mention he left off the third plaintiff of this suit. Guess you don't have to have the facts in order to write articles these days.
paperdali
08-10-2012, 04:50 PM
There was also a tasteless piece in Forbes about the part of the will that outlines custody of his daughter. The writer speculates that there was some disagreement with his wife on who would raise her if something happened to them both. It was totally seedy.
The writer was using it as a jumping off point to discuss guardianship issues in wills, which would have been fine if not for the weird speculation. I feel like punching stuff.
She could have also easily speculated that both sets of grandparents were loved equally, so they wrote in a sort of a coin flip.
I hate it when writers assume the worst of people without any sort of evidence.
WesleyOHSnaps!
08-10-2012, 05:00 PM
I didn't know Z-Trip was involved in this or at least his megamix was
K-ren
08-10-2012, 05:07 PM
very different than selling out your song for a Cadillac ad (I'm looking at you, Jimmy Page)
(y)(y)Been a long time, indeed.
K-ren
08-10-2012, 05:08 PM
"very different than selling out your song for a Cadillac ad (I'm looking at you, Jimmy Page)"
(y)(y)Been a long time, indeed.
beasties#1fan
08-10-2012, 08:51 PM
I think people on here were surprised to see it was ONLY 6.4. You seem impressed that it was 6.4. :o
No thats why i put "ONLY" i was suprised that he was worth 'only' 6.4. With selling over 45 million records, yeah i was expecting more, but it doesn't matter, like i said the beasties didnt seem like they were all about their money anyways.
"Your so funny with the money that you flaunt"
You can just tell they thought acting "rich" was not cool.(y)
BboyLover#1
08-10-2012, 09:09 PM
Oh, ok. My bad. :D:D:D
They did the right thing for not allowing their songs beiing used for commercials. You don't want it when you hear a beastie boys song and you have to think about a Big Mag (n) or some weird energy drink...
Abso-fucking-lutely man.
Yauch will now stay true to his word eternally.
FLO MASTER
08-11-2012, 05:50 AM
They did the right thing for not allowing their songs beiing used for commercials. You don't want it when you hear a beastie boys song and you have to think about a Big Mag (n) or some weird energy drink...
True....but if it means more money for them, than im all gung ho for it. but it is thier work and I respect that they dont want to be part of the corperate giants in that aspect. Im not their finacial consultant but I would want to make as much money as I could, like the beatles...image.
FLO MASTER
08-11-2012, 05:52 AM
No thats why i put "ONLY" i was suprised that he was worth 'only' 6.4. With selling over 45 million records, yeah i was expecting more, but it doesn't matter, like i said the beasties didnt seem like they were all about their money anyways.
"Your so funny with the money that you flaunt"
You can just tell they thought acting "rich" was not cool.(y)
Im sure there is more money tucked away. they have the rights to all thier music and thats thier cash cow. I bet alot of money went into thier other ventures that went under, too.
paperdali
08-11-2012, 01:35 PM
I haven't been able to stop thinking about how much it probably cost to fight the cancer. I think I had read that he was getting more experimental treatments later, and with lifetime caps on insurance (which often doesn't cover experimental treatments)...I'm speculating. It's unhelpful, I know, it's just eating at me.
I wonder how much went into all of that, and how so many people go bankrupt trying to keep a beloved family member alive.
Fuck cancer.
3stooges
08-11-2012, 05:25 PM
6.4 is definitely low. Unless it just cost millions and millions fighting the cancer. It's possible. When you are facing death, money means nothing. 75 mil was way high though, I thought. You guys seem to think record sales is where all the money comes from. The reality is that concerts are where the money is. For one night, $50 ticket times 20,000 = $1 million generated in one night...not even counting merchandise sales......Granted is gets all divided up, but still, I bet he made close to 6.4 in a couple tours.
I'm guessing the 6.4 is just money declared or some portion of what he's really worth. The lawyers have ways of not having to declare everything, to make things easier on the inheritors. If they liquidated all assets I'm sure it would be at least a few times that.
As for not having the music used, that statement is just a "warning", really, that whoever tries to will be sued by his estate. It's not like they wouldn't be suing anyway. And don't be so sure you'll never hear the music in commercials. We used to think that about a lot of people. But when funds get low, people sell what they have to maintain their lifestyle. Everybody's got a price. I mean seriously, if you had to choose between having your song played in a commercial, or selling your house......it's not a tough choice lol...
His passing and all this made me start thinking about the other guys in the band. They certainly aren't going to be able to make the kind of money they were before.....I'm sure they're good financially.....just, they'll have to plan more carefully now, as it is highly unlikely they'll ever achieve that sort of income again.
MCA4ever
08-11-2012, 06:10 PM
6.4 is definitely low. Unless it just cost millions and millions fighting the cancer. It's possible. When you are facing death, money means nothing. 75 mil was way high though, I thought. You guys seem to think record sales is where all the money comes from. The reality is that concerts are where the money is. For one night, $50 ticket times 20,000 = $1 million generated in one night...not even counting merchandise sales......Granted is gets all divided up, but still, I bet he made close to 6.4 in a couple tours.
I'm guessing the 6.4 is just money declared or some portion of what he's really worth. The lawyers have ways of not having to declare everything, to make things easier on the inheritors. If they liquidated all assets I'm sure it would be at least a few times that.
As for not having the music used, that statement is just a "warning", really, that whoever tries to will be sued by his estate. It's not like they wouldn't be suing anyway. And don't be so sure you'll never hear the music in commercials. We used to think that about a lot of people. But when funds get low, people sell what they have to maintain their lifestyle. Everybody's got a price. I mean seriously, if you had to choose between having your song played in a commercial, or selling your house......it's not a tough choice lol...
His passing and all this made me start thinking about the other guys in the band. They certainly aren't going to be able to make the kind of money they were before.....I'm sure they're good financially.....just, they'll have to plan more carefully now, as it is highly unlikely they'll ever achieve that sort of income again.
Really none of that is anyone's business. Who's to say what mike & Adams situation is or to even speculate on it I think is not our place.
MCA4ever
08-11-2012, 06:24 PM
Here a copy of the actual suit. Oddly it's easier to understand than the journalist reporting it make it sound. Not sure how that first guy totally left Dechen off of it.
http://consumerist-com.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/assets//12cv6065.pdf
"Don't grease my palm with your filthy cash
Multinationals spreading like a rash
I might stick around or I might be a fad
But I won't sell my songs for no TV ad"
nukeawhale
08-12-2012, 07:59 AM
I remember hearing Check It Out in a commercial for the OC or one of those crappy shows back when it came out. Grey line of promoting the album or the crappy show?
YoungRemy
08-12-2012, 08:35 AM
licensing and advertising are different.
whenever they use the music for tv or film, I always assume there was a personal connection- like the director of the episode could have been Tamra Davis for all we know (i just made up that scenario), but my point is that the band has to give their blessing to use a song of theirs.
Documad
08-13-2012, 06:49 AM
Here a copy of the actual suit. Oddly it's easier to understand than the journalist reporting it make it sound. Not sure how that first guy totally left Dechen off of it.
http://consumerist-com.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/assets//12cv6065.pdf
"Don't grease my palm with your filthy cash
Multinationals spreading like a rash
I might stick around or I might be a fad
But I won't sell my songs for no TV ad"
I'm sorry they have to deal with this now. It sounds like the advertiser focused particularly on Yauch, which makes sense from an advertiser point of view because of the snowboarding. But I wonder who at the advertiser thought it was okay to give away 23 minutes of the band's music?
JoLovesMCA
08-13-2012, 10:17 AM
These reporters are so clueless. They initially report that only Mike and Adam were suing and MCA wasn’t involved. It really made no sense to me and I had a feeling there was more to it. Now that they mentioned Dechen it makes sense. She’s his voice now. I am sure those three will always make sure to keep things in check and protect Adam’s and the band’s image.
FLO MASTER
08-13-2012, 03:24 PM
I haven't been able to stop thinking about how much it probably cost to fight the cancer. I think I had read that he was getting more experimental treatments later, and with lifetime caps on insurance (which often doesn't cover experimental treatments)...I'm speculating. It's unhelpful, I know, it's just eating at me.
I wonder how much went into all of that, and how so many people go bankrupt trying to keep a beloved family member alive.
Fuck cancer.
I remember when my mother was going for chemo and her insurance wouldnt cover it and we had to pay $1500 a session. its outragous what they charge the sick and elderly. at least the doctor was honest with us fromt he begining but we couldnt give up without a fight.
FLO MASTER
08-13-2012, 03:26 PM
I remember when budweiser told the beasties they couldNT use thier beer on stage or any of thier shows, videos or what not. they said the beasties were "bad for their image". were they kidding?
YoungRemy
08-13-2012, 03:28 PM
"nonethewiser"
FLO MASTER
08-13-2012, 03:29 PM
let me tell you, the beasties were the only reason why i even drank beer. i think it tastes like shit, IMO!
Tam_Tam
08-13-2012, 06:04 PM
let me tell you, the beasties were the only reason why i even drank beer. i think it tastes like shit, IMO!
You and me, my friend.
FLO MASTER
08-13-2012, 06:07 PM
You and me, my friend.
(y)
MCA4ever
08-13-2012, 06:31 PM
I'm sorry they have to deal with this now. It sounds like the advertiser focused particularly on Yauch, which makes sense from an advertiser point of view because of the snowboarding. But I wonder who at the advertiser thought it was okay to give away 23 minutes of the band's music?
Really! Wasn't like it was a few seconds of one song of something that sounded like them. A 23 minute unauthorized free download of a bands music is crazy! They deserve to be sued! Anything having to do with the Beasties is still all three of them. That should go without saying. I thought that writer was quite insulting to omit Dechens name from the law suit. Not to mention the incompetency he displayed by failing to have his facts straight before he published that article. Everyone is in such a hurry to be the first to put out information these days, it's hard to believe anything you read.
MCAadROCKMiKEd7
08-14-2012, 04:38 PM
Yeah I don’t think any fans are really surprised, but the public well obviously they are intrigued because they are reporting on it. And did Monster really think they could get away with using so many Beastie songs in their ads? Here’s a bigger analysis of the law suit. Go MIKE and Adam!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/beastie-boys-monster-energy-lawsuit-adam-yauch-360805)
GO BEASTIES GO BEASTIES GO! they spelled Adrock wrong though
MCA4ever
08-14-2012, 05:27 PM
Part Of Beastie Boy Adam Yauch's Will, Banning Use Of Music In Ads, May Not Be Valid - Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2012/08/13/part-of-beastie-boy-adam-yauchs-will-banning-use-of-music-in-ads-may-not-be-valid/
paperdali
08-14-2012, 09:45 PM
That Forbes writer is now two for two in writing shitty articles about his will that assumes shitty things about his family, and also some dystopian future in which they will all live in a cardboard box like Johnny Ryall. Wouldn't one assume that the family had an attorney who knows this shit better than this shitty columnist who had to consult three friends to clue her in on intellectual property law?
I was going to do a takedown, but then I'd have to register to comment at Forbes. There's just not enough soap to wash that off.
Look at this: Yauch was likely making a statement to the world that life is about more than profit. He attempted to exercise control over his name, image and legacy in order to make that point. The sad irony is that Yauch’s heirs may desperately need that profit to pay the legal bills that result from his final act of defiance.
LADY. CAN I BORROW YOUR CRYSTAL BALL OF DOOM? This assumes that a grown man with access to an army of lawyers, a successful business, and a lot of experience dealing with IP law just suddenly went bananas and acted like a petulant child stomping his feet without any care or consideration for the people he loves. WTFuckity?
His heirs can still license his music for television and film, yeah? And cash the royalty checks? They probably still own a piece of Oscillioscope as well. I'm an idiot and I thought of that. And this asshole has a paid gig at Forbes, where, presumably, she's supposed to know about money.
I...am done ranting about the stupid Forbes person.
MCA4ever
08-15-2012, 12:46 AM
That Forbes writer is now two for two in writing shitty articles about his will that assumes shitty things about his family, and also some dystopian future in which they will all live in a cardboard box like Johnny Ryall. Wouldn't one assume that the family had an attorney who knows this shit better than this shitty columnist who had to consult three friends to clue her in on intellectual property law?
I was going to do a takedown, but then I'd have to register to comment at Forbes. There's just not enough soap to wash that off.
Look at this:
LADY. CAN I BORROW YOUR CRYSTAL BALL OF DOOM? This assumes that a grown man with access to an army of lawyers, a successful business, and a lot of experience dealing with IP law just suddenly went bananas and acted like a petulant child stomping his feet without any care or consideration for the people he loves. WTFuckity?
His heirs can still license his music for television and film, yeah? And cash the royalty checks? They probably still own a piece of Oscillioscope as well. I'm an idiot and I thought of that. And this asshole has a paid gig at Forbes, where, presumably, she's supposed to know about money.
I...am done ranting about the stupid Forbes person.
Wow-2nd? I remember you talking about the Forbes article and assumed this was the one. Same person, different article, is that all this person writes about. I don't think I ever remember a celebrity will that has been given this much attention. I'd love to see you write a comment back to them. When I read stuff like that, I always read the comments because there is always someone that challenges what is written and it gives people another point of view.
Kid Presentable
08-15-2012, 03:18 AM
It's a fair point, isn't it? Just putting a requirement in the will won't stop it from being attempted by advertisers. And if a case is bought against an organisation, and they feel compelled to fight back, then yeah the estate would be liable for costs if it were to lose. Wouldn't it?
I'm assuming there are joint assets or somesuch tied up in Brooklyn Dust. In any case, it's not that outlandish a claim to be made by the writer. In my opinion. It certainly reads like a lot of inferences have been taken away from the article, at the very least.
Documad
08-15-2012, 05:57 AM
I don't know whether Yauch's statement can be legally enforced by anyone. I suspect that his trustee would have options, for instance if his daughter ever really needed more money.
But at least everyone knows what Yauch intended. You get so many musical artists who die and then everyone claims to know what he/she wanted. This time, we all know.
JoLovesMCA
08-15-2012, 08:24 AM
In my opinion Adam had a huge support system. I think if anybody else pulls a Monster they will sue them too. Dechen won't ever be alone in this. I am sure Mike and Adam will always work as a team with her. I think the Beastie Boys music will be safe from those corporate vulchers.
paperdali
08-15-2012, 10:03 PM
It's a fair point, isn't it? Just putting a requirement in the will won't stop it from being attempted by advertisers. And if a case is bought against an organisation, and they feel compelled to fight back, then yeah the estate would be liable for costs if it were to lose. Wouldn't it?
The article brings up some interesting points that have been written about elsewhere as well, I totally agree.
What I think is unfair is the mean-spirited speculation that he left his loved ones screwed by being petulant. In order to make that assertion, she has to assume that he wasn't very bright. That his attorney(s) weren't bright, nor was his accountant(s). A whole lot of people had to be incompetent to allow his family to be put in harm's way.
One could also assume the best case scenario: That perhaps all but the 6.5 was owner jointly by his wife. Like their home, investments, and any other properties. I don't know what the law is in NY, nor am I any kind of lawyer, but there are plenty of assets that aren't subject to probate if jointly held, or if he liquidated assets and put them all in his wife's name. It's just as likely that he paid all his debts and his family has a shitload of money in investments and property, and that the 6.5 was cash, and did not include things like the house they lived in, or his share of Oscilloscope. Maybe the 6.5 was in gold bouillon he got from a pirate ship that hadn't been transferred into a joint account. Why not assume that? We can all speculate, but we don't know unless the will outlines what the will includes. If it just includes "his" estate, than we can't really guess at what was "their" estate. You know what I mean?
I'll speculate on the side of someone who owned a successful business and was part of a successful partnership for 30 years having access to good lawyers and accountants to ensure that his family won't want for much. I wouldn't assume that he behaved like a willful child at the end of his life and put his family at risk, because...why? Why do that? It's unlikely, actually. It's possible, in the same way that it's possible that someone is outside my door with a Publisher's Clearinghouse check I guess. It just isn't likely.
I think it was unfair of the author to make assumptions on the character of her subject, which she did in the previous article in which she says:
But his will, filed in New York City Surrogate’s court on Aug. 6, reveals that in his personal life Yauch wrestled with a dilemma that many parents face: whom to name as a guardian to raise his child.
In his 2001 will, Yauch, who was 47 when he died, leaves his entire estate (worth an estimated $6.4 million) to a trust, the terms of which are private. But his will, which is a public document, suggests that he and his wife Dechen disagreed about who would raise their children if they both died
It doesn't suggest that he wrestled with anything, or that he and his wife disagreed. Again, the same writer is being a presumptuous dick.
It can just as easily suggest that their kid is fortunate enough to have two living sets of grandparents who would be equally as suitable at raising her. Here's what they did: Yauch’s will describes an unusual arrangement that probably grew out of compromise. If he died in a year with an even number, he appointed his parents, Noel and Frances Yauch, as the guardians, with his wife’s parents Sonam and Chuki Gangdu, as the backup if his own parents were unable to play that role. On the other hand, if he died in an odd-numbered year, the arrangement would be reversed, with her parents stepping in as guardians, and his serving as the backup.
That's pretty awesome, and without her slimy speculation based in absolutely no evidence of any sort of disagreement, would be a pretty great piece on how to determine guardianship when you have two equally great choices. It's not a dilemma to have two sets of grandparents who you would trust with your child's life. It's a blessing. What a total asshat this writer is.
She says that it suggests that he had a disagreement with his wife. Or, on this side of the fucking rainbow, it suggests that he had an agreement with his wife, parents, and in-laws that showed them that he and his wife loved and trusted them.
Or, I dunno, there was a lot of yelling in the Yauch household that day. I don't know. Neither does the writer.
The point is that it wasn't actually fair of her to speculate on disagreements with his wife, or whether it was actually a dilemma. That's some seriously unprofessional shit.
FLO MASTER
08-16-2012, 05:30 AM
The article brings up some interesting points that have been written about elsewhere as well, I totally agree.
What I think is unfair is the mean-spirited speculation that he left his loved ones screwed by being petulant. In order to make that assertion, she has to assume that he wasn't very bright. That his attorney(s) weren't bright, nor was his accountant(s). A whole lot of people had to be incompetent to allow his family to be put in harm's way.
One could also assume the best case scenario: That perhaps all but the 6.5 was owner jointly by his wife. Like their home, investments, and any other properties. I don't know what the law is in NY, nor am I any kind of lawyer, but there are plenty of assets that aren't subject to probate if jointly held, or if he liquidated assets and put them all in his wife's name. It's just as likely that he paid all his debts and his family has a shitload of money in investments and property, and that the 6.5 was cash, and did not include things like the house they lived in, or his share of Oscilloscope. Maybe the 6.5 was in gold bouillon he got from a pirate ship that hadn't been transferred into a joint account. Why not assume that? We can all speculate, but we don't know unless the will outlines what the will includes. If it just includes "his" estate, than we can't really guess at what was "their" estate. You know what I mean?
I'll speculate on the side of someone who owned a successful business and was part of a successful partnership for 30 years having access to good lawyers and accountants to ensure that his family won't want for much. I wouldn't assume that he behaved like a willful child at the end of his life and put his family at risk, because...why? Why do that? It's unlikely, actually. It's possible, in the same way that it's possible that someone is outside my door with a Publisher's Clearinghouse check I guess. It just isn't likely.
I think it was unfair of the author to make assumptions on the character of her subject, which she did in the previous article in which she says:
It doesn't suggest that he wrestled with anything, or that he and his wife disagreed. Again, the same writer is being a presumptuous dick.
It can just as easily suggest that their kid is fortunate enough to have two living sets of grandparents who would be equally as suitable at raising her. Here's what they did:
That's pretty awesome, and without her slimy speculation based in absolutely no evidence of any sort of disagreement, would be a pretty great piece on how to determine guardianship when you have two equally great choices. It's not a dilemma to have two sets of grandparents who you would trust with your child's life. It's a blessing. What a total asshat this writer is.
She says that it suggests that he had a disagreement with his wife. Or, on this side of the fucking rainbow, it suggests that he had an agreement with his wife, parents, and in-laws that showed them that he and his wife loved and trusted them.
Or, I dunno, there was a lot of yelling in the Yauch household that day. I don't know. Neither does the writer.
The point is that it wasn't actually fair of her to speculate on disagreements with his wife, or whether it was actually a dilemma. That's some seriously unprofessional shit.
Im really confused. why would adam pick his parents or in laws as guardians when his wife is alive? I dont get it! were they in a falling out before he passed away?
as for what adam said about his music in the will and how he wanted to be used, its his, mike and adams decision. thats the bottom line. I dont think any company thinks they have the right to use anyone's music without permission. even if they use it without permission, they must pay the owners for using thier material. sure, this ad will bring in a few extra bucks but it was used without permission. the lawyers will sue for legal fees so I dont think any out of pocket costs will happen.
FLO MASTER
08-16-2012, 05:38 AM
as for Adam being stupid, i would love to beat the ever living shit out of the person that would even think of saying it. I think he is one of the smartest musicians, EVER. He was always the backbone of the group and he steered the band in the direction he thought would benefit them the most. in the early interviews, they always asked who was the leader and they said it was adam, mostly because of his age. I dont want to know mike or adam because I think they are all equal and no one is anyone's boss in the group. they wouldnt have gotten to this point in thier lives if it werent for thier smart business and carreer moves. was it adam that got them to this point? perhaps. was it a combined effort? most definitely. adam, mike and adam have not only done major things in music but also showed that they have heart and soul to take on other ventures such as getting the world to see the incredible plight the tibetans have gone though as well as other causes right in thier own backyard. I never heard of the beatles, the rolling stones or van halen doing anything to that caliber.
fuck you cancer.
paperdali
08-16-2012, 07:28 AM
Im really confused. why would adam pick his parents or in laws as guardians when his wife is alive? I dont get it! were they in a falling out before he passed away?
That was specifically in the event that both of them passed, say in a car accident.
It bugs me, because it's actually a clever way to determine guardianship when you have several people who you trust and love to do right by your kid. The author created drama to...I don't know, make her piece more interesting?
She didn't have to. Her subject was someone who is beloved. She didn't need the tabloid, seedy speculation in order to write a piece focusing on how to put guardianship in your will when you have two sets of capable grandparents and can't decide who is a better fit. The way she wrote it, you'd think pots and pans were flying at the house. She has no way to determine that, and she didn't need to speculate drama to sell the story. It's Forbes, not TMZ.
Kid Presentable
08-16-2012, 07:56 AM
The reader created the drama.
Sir SkratchaLot
08-16-2012, 11:58 AM
I don't know about this Monster suit. I haven't read it yet but I think they need to be careful about what they ask for. I would like to see them hone in on the commerical aspect of monster using their tracks to advertize without being overbroad. This stuff about "trademarking" voices? So if I scratch up MCA's voice and put it on a record I've got to pay? All of this could come back to haunt any artist who samples, including the Beasties. I understand them being pissed about he circumstances here but they need to be very careful about how they proceed and I'm not sure an entertainment lawyer is going to be sensitive to the idea that some types of sampling need a free pass.
I'll reserve my judgment until I read the actual suit though.
Sir SkratchaLot
08-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Just read the suit. The Civil Law 51 action that deals with their voices is limited to advertising.
JoLovesMCA
08-16-2012, 03:11 PM
Yeah since this report I have noticed a rehash of this news everywhere and on news channels. Damn man. They want to turn it into more than it is...I just feel bad for Adam. I feel like he’d want to say something right now to set the record straight (as he always did on behalf of the band) but he can’t. :/
LongDuckDong
08-16-2012, 10:02 PM
I just feel bad for Adam. I feel like he’d want to say something right now to set the record straight (as he always did on behalf of the band).
No he wouldn't. There would still be silence.
fonky pizza
08-18-2012, 08:00 AM
I had no doubts he would keep this line(y):)
FLO MASTER
08-18-2012, 04:29 PM
to be honest, i dont care to know what his will says. it seems like we are already in thier personal business all the time and we dont need to know everything. this was adams personal life. sure, it would be nice to know but lets be honest here...do we really need to know? im sure he would like to keep parts of his life and family private and I would be happy to know that he is happy where ever he is now. he will always be remembered no matter what. there isnt one day that goes by that I dont think about him and the beastie boys.
MCA4ever
08-30-2012, 02:20 AM
I'm not sure if this legal firm had permission or even needs permission to use a picture of Adam and Losel along with the story of his will, to advertise. To me this just seems wrong and it seems to be exactly what Adam had wanted to prevent. It made me mad to see this :mad:
http://morristrust.com/2012/08/unusual-guardianship-designations-by-adam-yauch-former-beastie-boy/
FLO MASTER
08-30-2012, 04:49 PM
God, Adam looked so happy and proud in that picture!
MCA4ever
08-30-2012, 05:32 PM
http://morristrust.com/2012/08/unusual-guardianship-designations-by-adam-yauch-former-beastie-boy/
Just an FYI guys- any comments made to Morris Trust will await moderation for 24 hours and then are just deleted.
paperdali
08-30-2012, 11:20 PM
it seems to be exactly what Adam had wanted to prevent.
I hadn't thought of that. Excellent point. How very slimy to use the photo of a father who has just passed away holding his young daughter and then try to sell your estate planning service. What a weasel thing to do.
TimDoolan
08-31-2012, 12:45 AM
let me tell you, the beasties were the only reason why i even drank beer. i think it tastes like shit, IMO!
Haha me too I think. "I drink Budweiser.... mouthful of miller......drinkin Heineken brew, brass monkey," etc......it just seemed like they were having fun.
MCAadROCKMiKEd7
08-31-2012, 02:16 AM
I'm not sure if this legal firm had permission or even needs permission to use a picture of Adam and Losel along with the story of his will, to advertise. To me this just seems wrong and it seems to be exactly what Adam had wanted to prevent. It made me mad to see this :mad:
http://morristrust.com/2012/08/unusual-guardianship-designations-by-adam-yauch-former-beastie-boy/
That picture is my favorite Yauch picture, its heart warming. Its just the ideal picture of a father just radiating with love for his little girl. Its beautiful.
pm0ney
09-01-2012, 04:11 PM
That picture is my favorite Yauch picture, its heart warming. Its just the ideal picture of a father just radiating with love for his little girl. Its beautiful.
And after reading that article, not surprisingly, Yauch took all the proper steps to ensure his daughter's security for the rest of her life. An amazing man. I'm missing him particularly more than usual today. Le sigh.
MCA4ever
09-02-2012, 11:37 PM
Another seedy law firm trying to make a buck.
http://www.michaelbondlaw.com/3/post/2012/08/lessons-from-the-passing-of-adam-yauch-and-sherman-helmsley.html
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