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PORKYS1982
06-16-2013, 08:22 AM
Prime Minister Pete Nice From 3rd Bass Reflects
Back On MCA & The Beastie Boys - 2012

http://gawker.com/5908629/requiem-for-a-white-mc

Ben Escobedo ( Porkys1982 )

Micodin
06-16-2013, 08:34 AM
This has been kicking on the boards for over a year, but thanks for sharing.

http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=97967&page=11

PORKYS1982
06-16-2013, 08:40 AM
You Got It , 1st Time I've Seen it - Very Good Read !

POMP
06-16-2013, 02:09 PM
The comments are better than the article. Fuck 3rd Bass.

PORKYS1982
06-16-2013, 02:53 PM
The comments are better than the article. Fuck 3rd Bass.

Now That's Funny !

abbott
06-17-2013, 08:10 AM
I had a 3rd Bass cd back in high school. I did enjoy a few tracks, but it was a short phase that came and went.

I broke out some 3rd bass videos for the kids over the weekend to enlighten them. After watching, Ava said something like... Seems like all they do is make fun of people, I'm not in to it.

I always thought 3rd bass tried to get mass appeal by making fun of Vanilla Ice and that just seemed weak to me. I am guessing no parks dedicated to anyone from 3rd Bass ever.

Brass Monk
06-17-2013, 09:38 AM
I wouldn't say they were a bad group, but look up little brother syndrome in the dictionary and there is a picture of 3rd Bass (or there should be).

Bernard Goetz
06-17-2013, 10:10 AM
I understand all the animosity toward 3rd Bass, but that doesn't change The Cactus Album being a top 50 album all time for me.

Micodin
06-17-2013, 01:55 PM
I understand all the animosity toward 3rd Bass, but that doesn't change The Cactus Album being a top 50 album all time for me.

Cosign. Derelicts of Dialect had its moments as well. They were both gifted as MC's and yet had different flows.

Plus, when you have the Bomb Squad and Prince Paul providing the beats it's hard to go wrong.

Megalon X
06-17-2013, 05:45 PM
I'm sorry this is some bullshit. 3rd Bass's legacy with the Beastie Boys is having a fucking Beasties diss track as the first track on their first album where they both talked a ton of devious shit about them and even about their parents.

I know there's one person here who is on their jock and will get his panties in a bunch over this, but there's no reason for anyone to give two shits about what Pete Nice has to say about them. This kind of shit is wack. You don't diss someone, say they never deserved to be MCs, and then later after your career went down the toilet, try to to grand stand over it while simultaneously saying things like Paul's Boutique was a flop, when it sold more than your entire catalog several times over, after they died. No one respects this stuff when it happens in hip hop, and there's a good reason too.

Whether or not your like the Cactucs Album is fucking irrelevant. I like the Catcus Album, but it doesn't mean that they should get respect here. That isn't the point. I also don't think people should kiss their asses over who produced for them. 3rd Bass was Def Jam's post-Beastie Boys white boy hip hop business plan. Of course Russel Simmons wasn't going to have a bunch of wack producers lacing them with beats. None of this occurred in a vacuum.

Pete Nice is a nobody now. I mean I own his albums and listen to them sometimes, but he ended up selling baseball cards after the industry decided they were hasbeens. I just see him using this moment to try to make himself relevant enough that he would get interviewed again fucking wack. If he wants to talk about his own records or whatever fine (well HE DID HERE ANYWAYS, but I mean just about his records alone), but I don't need to hear fucking Pete Nice referring to Paul's selling bad when his own solo album went double wood and he literally had to get a new job (and that link about the law suits in the comments is interesting, I don't know many baseball card dealers that are getting sued for extortion). To me that's just more sour grapes, trying to latch on to that extremely transitory period where they were actually full of enough shit to think they were ahead of them in the beef.

I couldn't bring myself to read this whole thing. Just skimming it was enough to get on my nerves. Stuff like explaining away MCA's skills as him just sounding blacker than them is bullshit. I agree with the commenter who said he's jealous. It's OBVIOUS. I also love the title of the article that underlines one of the worst thing about 3rd Bass, just how fucking insecure they were about being white MCs. It was all over their music, videos, public image and it's all over this interview, and it's still kind of sad. If they had the magical ability to change their race, I think they would have, because it's obvious they have some kind of inferiority complex.

And no I don't want to get into a shouting match with the resident asshole that everyone consistently refers to as an asshole without using his name in different threads.

Brass Monk
06-17-2013, 07:42 PM
I can relate to what Megalon is saying.

I definitely have mixed feelings about the Beastie Boy's little brothers.

I do know that Serch has been apologizing in virtually every interview he's ever done for the past 15 years. He's repeatedly said that dissing the Beastie Boys was the biggest mistake of his career and I believe he is sincere.

Pete is a different story. As late as August 2011, Pete was claiming 3rd Bass was the first "legit white rap group" which as we all know, is utter self-serving, revisionist history horseshit.

http://www.jeffpearlman.com/the-quaz-qa-pete-nash-aka-prime-minister-pete-nice/

Micodin
06-17-2013, 08:19 PM
And no I don't want to get into a shouting match with the resident asshole that everyone consistently refers to as an asshole without using his name in different threads.

Are you referring to Voldemort?

pm0ney
06-18-2013, 01:14 AM
The article is a great representation of what 3rd Bass has been for twenty years. Well spoken, gifted individuals who for some strange reason can not get over their unbelievable obsession with being/not being black. MC Serch in particular I always felt was worse but almost thirty years later and Pete Nice is still on about it. I loved the Cactus Album but I felt like their self loathing for being white stopped them from ever becoming anything more than a passing thought.

Megalon X
06-18-2013, 02:02 AM
I can relate to what Megalon is saying.

I definitely have mixed feelings about the Beastie Boy's little brothers.

I do know that Serch has been apologizing in virtually every interview he's ever done for the past 15 years. He's repeatedly said that dissing the Beastie Boys was the biggest mistake of his career and I believe he is sincere.

Pete is a different story. As late as August 2011, Pete was claiming 3rd Bass was the first "legit white rap group" which as we all know, is utter self-serving, revisionist history horseshit.

http://www.jeffpearlman.com/the-quaz-qa-pete-nash-aka-prime-minister-pete-nice/

He made sure to mention the Beastie Boys before he said that too, so there's no way he wasn't knocking them. What a fucking whore to do that blog piece just a year later. Fuck him.

I also love the part where he said they were important for race relations. Laugh out loud hilarious. Pete Nice is living in Bizaro World for sure.

The article is a great representation of what 3rd Bass has been for twenty years. Well spoken, gifted individuals who for some strange reason can not get over their unbelievable obsession with being/not being black. MC Serch in particular I always felt was worse but almost thirty years later and Pete Nice is still on about it. I loved the Cactus Album but I felt like their self loathing for being white stopped them from ever becoming anything more than a passing thought.Too bad they never battled YBT for title of blackest white hip hop group.

Bernard Goetz
06-18-2013, 07:01 AM
I couldn't bring myself to read this whole thing.

I can relate.

Micodin
06-18-2013, 08:12 AM
I can relate.

Cosign.

Megalon X
06-18-2013, 12:23 PM
Well, at least the bit about people here pretending that the beef wasn't serious or blaming it all on Serch so they could ride the jock of both groups has been disproved. I don't know how the fuck do you call the Beastie Boys an illegitimate white hip hop group while not being a fucking hater. Word to the third, guys.

MissCrafty
07-11-2013, 09:31 AM
What I'm curious about is what he said here..

"all I could really recall was having taken a picture of him and Flavor Flav (both wearing yarmulkes) at our manager Lyor Cohen's wedding in the Dominican Republic in 1988."


I'd love to see that picture!