Eminem 'Berzerk' samples BB

[tt5brevisited]

Sounds like a mixture of some old Def Jam stuff and SWCW, sounds like they actually sampled SAL 'go'.
Video also has some SWCW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peMSWg94ZwY

[Kid Presentable]

I like it. My rhyme's on the raaahaaag

[camo]

I like it. My rhyme's on the raaahaaag

That line has definitely got a New Style LTI thing going on.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Not only that but the style of dress looks like a Mike D nod (Whatcha Want Video).

[Micodin]

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/videos/id.14086/title.eminem-berzerk-snippet-

Dr. Dre and Rick Rubin executive producing MMLP2?

Fuck yes!

[Kid Presentable]

Best tribute I've seen.

[Micodin]

It also reminds me when Mike D talked about how much he liked Billy Squire's The Stroke, and it's heavily sampled in this new Em song.

[abbott]

Like it.

[JoLovesMCA]

Don't like him and this is the most decent thing I've heard from him.

[ClarenceAlabama]

This song sounds like something Rick Rubin would do.

I wouldn't mind hearing a new song featuring Adrock if Eminem is trying to honor the Beasties.

[Jay Stone]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is horrible...

[Brother McDuff]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is horrible...


im not really feelin either

[YoungRemy]

what's all the fanfare what's the to do?

[Micodin]

I guess so.

But, I've been a Em fan since the Outsidaz and Rawkus days.

Em rapping over breakbeats and scratching? I'm in.

[YoungRemy]

the video nod is very cool though.

I didn't notice any samples.

[Drusyc]

It has been a very long time since Eminem has made anything worth listening to, imo, but I'm digging the vibe there. I'll give his new shit a shot.

[Jiberish]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is horrible...


I LOVE the way the video looks. I don't care for the music or the fact that it's ultimately a commercial for something I don't care about. And I didn't hear any samples. Unless the OP meant "visual sample" or better yet "visual reference".

[JohnnyChavello]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwntOUuUPiU) promo for his new album sounds a lot like they're using either a sample or interpolation of Time to Get Ill on one of the tracks.

EDIT: this might be the same song - not sure.

[JohnnyChavello]

I think it sounds good, but I swear, if I could get every single MC to swear off those corny ass R&B choruses for little kids to repeat over and over, I would be a happy man.

[Micodin]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwntOUuUPiU) promo for his new album sounds a lot like they're using either a sample or interpolation of Time to Get Ill on one of the tracks.

EDIT: this might be the same song - not sure.

Yeah, I posted that link earlier. It's the same song. That's the intro. It comes out tomorrow.

[JohnnyChavello]

Cool. Sounds promising at least.

By the way, Dizzee Rascal sampled another Billy Squire song on Fix Up, Look Sharp. Squire filmed one of the most hideous music videos ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0j7sModCI), but had pretty solid drum breaks on a lot of his records. Speaking of rock drum samples, someone should slow down and loop up the intro to ELO's "Don't Bring Me Down."

[Micodin]

Cool. Sounds promising at least.

By the way, Dizzee Rascal sampled another Billy Squire song on Fix Up, Look Sharp. Squire filmed one of the most hideous music videos ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0j7sModCI), but had pretty solid drum breaks on a lot of his records. Speaking of rock drum samples, someone should slow down and loop up the intro to ELO's "Don't Bring Me Down."

The Big Beat. It's gotta be up there Apache and The Big Payback with being sampled the most in hip-hop..

I've sampled the shit out of Billy Squire's catalogue. Great breakbeats and guitars.

[tt5brevisited]

I didn't hear any samples

I think there is? the 'go' part from 'Slow and low', in the back during the hook / chorus. Or that could be 'stroke' from Squire as well, which would make less sense as he says 'let yourself go'.
But yeah I mean 'sampled' as in 'reference'.

Dunno, sounds pretty nice for a pop song.

[tt5brevisited]

someone should slow down and loop up the intro to ELO's "Don't Bring Me Down."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3NRDyuQUWQ

[Micodin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3NRDyuQUWQ

The Ultimatum Mix. Sounds much better pitched up. Good stuff.

[tt5brevisited]

The Ultimatum Mix. Sounds much better pitched up. Good stuff.

Yeah, like the album version better.

[Jiberish]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwntOUuUPiU) promo for his new album sounds a lot like they're using either a sample or interpolation of Time to Get Ill on one of the tracks.

EDIT: this might be the same song - not sure.

Yeah I hear that on this link.

[JohnnyChavello]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3NRDyuQUWQ

I have this album/how did I not know this? Not the biggest JBs fan around, but still.

[Micodin]

I have this album/how did I not know this? Not the biggest JBs fan around, but still.

It's only on the remix not the album version. That's why you might of missed it.

[brooklyndust]

Don't forget about the funky drummer being one of the most sampled songs in hip hop.

I'm digging this. I like the what'cha want vibe with the backdrop being Detroit and not the forest. Also think the backyard wrestling clips thrown in there is interesting as well.

[Micodin]

It's out. (http://pitchfork.com/news/52047-listen-eminem-berserk/)

[LuciferHam]

I'm a fan, its probably the first time MM's ever has a great beat to rhyme too. Probably going that far because of the old school fan I am but usually his beats are pretty tepid post-g-funk or lately, pop orientated whatever.

[Lyman Zerga]

i dont have to listen to it to know that i dont like it cause his voice alone gives me ear death

[tt5brevisited]

I have this album/how did I not know this? Not the biggest JBs fan around, but still.

There's another version which samples the 'i'm chief kamanawanalea' drums (Jimmy James drums).
Can't find a link to that one though, it's called the 'Richie Rich mix'.

[pm0ney]

I must admit, I've never been the biggest fan of Eminem... But it is pretty fucking cool to hear him and Adrock on the same track, albeit a sampled Adrock from 25 years ago.

Not a huge fan of this track. This style of rap was not made for his voice.

[JoLovesMCA]

I'm a fan, its probably the first time MM's ever has a great beat to rhyme too. Probably going that far because of the old school fan I am but usually his beats are pretty tepid post-g-funk or lately, pop orientated whatever.


(y) I completely agree.

I always said it was his voice that annoyed me but this song I kinda like. It's got beats, scratches, some guitar.... That's the kind of hip hop I like so I guess if he stopped doing stupid ballads with Rihanna then I would probably listen to him.

[tt5brevisited]

I must admit, I've never been the biggest fan of Eminem... But it is pretty fucking cool to hear him and Adrock on the same track, albeit a sampled Adrock from 25 years ago.

Not a huge fan of this track. This style of rap was not made for his voice.

Yeah, this basically.
I like the sparse throwback intro but then... meh.

[Brass Monk]

Best tribute I've seen.

Yeah, top 5 for sure.

[kingcrimson024]

yea the vid had a so whatcha want tribute/feel to it...

[beasties#1fan]

I hated it. Listen to like 40 seconds of it...I heard the "kick it" which is of course the only cool part of the song, whatevaaa everybody has their own opinions...i just dont care for new music/rap...uhhh dont really get how its a tribue

[Brass Monk]

uhhh dont really get how its a tribue

It's a tribute because (beyond the "kick it" sample) the whole first verse is undeniably done in Adrock's LTI rhyme style. Just like the next verse is an obvious Snoop tribute done in the same fashion and so on. I quite liked it other than the chorus. I especially liked the slight alterations done to the "Kick it" sample, turning it into crickets, stick it, pigment and Kendrick still sounding like Adrock all the while. The single cover is also quite ill, an obvious homage to LL's iconic Radio album cover.

[tt5brevisited]

The single cover is also quite ill, an obvious homage to LL's iconic Radio album cover.

The logotype also seems a modern rendition of this:
http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7096

[Brass Monk]

The logotype also seems a modern rendition of this:
http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7096

That's cool, I didn't notice that before.

[Jiberish]

I especially liked the slight alterations done to the "Kick it" sample, turning it into crickets, stick it, pigment and Kendrick still sounding like Adrock all the while.

I was impressed with that as well. I've listened to it about 4 times now. IT gets better, but blahhhhh that chorus is shit.

[KENNY GUIDO]

heard it on the radio today and it spells beastie boys all over it. "kick it" right down to the bone.

[smith7800]

heard it on the radio today and it spells beastie boys all over it. "kick it" right down to the bone.
Nice tribute, but probably won't listen to it again.

[Drusyc]

Oh dear. Respect for the samples and the vibe, but this is very bad.

[cj hood]

this track is garbage.

[M|X|Y]

you guys are old (y)

[Odie]

Yeah 40 year old Eminem is so cutting edge contemporary, get wiv it granddad. Raps the new thing don't you know?

[MCScoobyT]

Has anyone said it's cool Double R is fucking with Hip Hop again???

Okay I will, it's cool Double R is fucking with Hip Hop again.

[CatchaGroove]

couple quick shots of Em's t-shirt with a pic both Run-D.M.C. and the Beatsie Boys in the new video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y&sns=tw

Respect

[M|X|Y]

cool seeing Rick Rubin on there(y)

[Brass Monk]

I liked the video.

Thoughts:

*Would have been better without the poser of all musical posers, Kid Rock though (poser meaning: jumping from style to style conveniently when it's getting popular. Conventional hip hop to metal Korn rap to pop country western, I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a new haircut and jocked Justin Beiber yet). Just tacked on explanation in advance, for the inevitable board member that will get offended by that.

*But I did like that Together Forever T-shirt Em had on. I gotta try to find myself one of those.

*I was also skeptical about some saying on this thread that the video would have elements of So Whatcha Want, but I think they were ultimately right.

[camo]

I like it.

It's good that people are saying things about the Beastie Boys again and good to see someone come out the other side after battling their demons.

[Jiberish]

The video is really well done.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

He's wearing a Detroit Pistons ringer tee during the " so what'cha want" homage and there is definitely other beastie stuff in there as well as the Pharcyde's "Drop" video.

[Brass Monk]

He's wearing a Detroit Pistons ringer tee during the " so what'cha want" homage and there is definitely other beastie stuff in there as well as the Pharcyde's "Drop" video.

Pharcyde reference? Where?

[Jiberish]

Pharcyde reference? Where?

The backwards graffiti writing at the end made me think of "Drop" too.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

The backwards graffiti writing at the end made me think of "Drop" too.

There's a lot more backwards stuff that happens that made me think of Drop. Maybe I'm reading in to it more then it is, but its what I thought of right away.

[Jiberish]

There's a lot more backwards stuff that happens that made me think of Drop. Maybe I'm reading in to it more then it is, but its what I thought of right away.

agreed. He kicks his shoes ON instead of OFF. etc.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I think ✞✞✞ Champagne Jerry ✞✞✞ is a way better rapper than Eminem -- seriously. Jerry even won a rap contest in school. (http://www.champagnejerry.com/threethings) I also feel ✞✞✞ Champagne Jerry's ✞✞✞ new video for Tampa Realness (http://www.champagnejerry.com/tamparealness)is much better than the one for Berzerk.

[dirtydan11]

couple quick shots of Em's t-shirt with a pic both Run-D.M.C. and the Beatsie Boys in the new video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y&sns=tw

Respect

I paused on his shirt a few times and DAMN I want that shirt!
Respect to Eminem for paying tribute in little ways Beastie Boys fans (like Eminem) would pick up on right away, without being so in your face obvious. (Unless it was the video director or whoever but I appreciated it as a Beastie Boys fan for sure!)

[Kid Presentable]

And like him or not, Kid Rock is down with the Boys.

[Brass Monk]

And like him or not, Kid Rock is down with the Boys.

If by "down with" you mean "a fan of" , you are surely correct.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

And like him or not, Kid Rock is down with the Boys.

For a 1996 piece on him in the 'Beastie's' magazine Grand Royal, check it out here (http://www.fistfulayen.com/blog/2007/09/kid-rock-in-grand-royal-magazine/)

[Kid Presentable]

If by "down with" you mean "a fan of" , you are surely correct.

DJed at Mike D's parties in 98, shows up in AIFST, did the HoF tribute (a massive co-sign since you know they had veto on that). I dunno, man. I'm not into his music beyond that 'Fuck Off' song, but even as a fan they never struck me as anything less than mutually respectful of each other as people. But I'm not mad at shit in the slightest.

Video is good. Song is the best 'first' single since My Name Is, but that's not saying much. Should be interesting to hear the album. Especially if Kendrick and Alchemist actually feature beyond the video.

[YoungRemy]

co sign Kid Presentable.

Kid Rock and Mike D are friends.

[Brass Monk]

DJed at Mike D's parties in 98, shows up in AIFST, did the HoF tribute (a massive co-sign since you know they had veto on that). I dunno, man. I'm not into his music beyond that 'Fuck Off' song, but even as a fan they never struck me as anything less than mutually respectful of each other as people. But I'm not mad at shit in the slightest.

Video is good. Song is the best 'first' single since My Name Is, but that's not saying much. Should be interesting to hear the album. Especially if Kendrick and Alchemist actually feature beyond the video.

Fair enough, never meant to imply they hate eachother, although I wouldn't call the HOF participation a massive co-sign either. I really don't think Mike D & Adrock really give that much thought either way, especially in April 2012. It's hard for me to envision any of the Beastie Boys ever hearing a Kid Rock track and utterly loving it, but that's just my opinion. And it seems pretty obvious based on what I've seen that there has never been any real relationship between them. When I hear that an artist is "down" with another artist I think of a significantly greater connection.

Also: is it just me or are all 3 BBoys actually being being portrayed in the bezerk video? Mike D & Adrock by Em and MCA by Rubin

[Kid Presentable]

And like him or not, Kid Rock is down with the Boys.

*kanyeshrug*

[Micodin]

Kid Rock and Mike D are friends.

Truth. This is pretty much common knowledge.

[Brass Monk]

Truth. This is pretty much common knowledge.

This doesn't really speak to musical respect and the way acts are considered "down" with eachother.

A lot of musical artists are friends on a personal level but don't have much respect for eachother on the musical/professional level.

[Guy Incognito]

Bit late to the party here

Doesnt sound like much he has done before.

I like it, funny , loads of nods to the Beasties and others, great video, loads of great bits.

Is Rick Rubin in the HOF? He should be. Man's a bloody genius.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Bit late to the party here

Doesnt sound like much he has done before.

I like it, funny , loads of nods to the Beasties and others, great video, loads of great bits.

Is Rick Rubin in the HOF? He should be. Man's a bloody genius.

Rubin is a cock.

Source: Rolling Stone Aug. 11, 1994

"There was a point where Rick probably didn't want me in because I deal with the business side," says Diamond. "Ultimately there was going to be a source of conflict there."

Horovitz is less diplomatic. "Rick thinks he knows what's best for everybody," says Horovitz. "Rick was the expendable motherfucker."

[Brass Monk]

Bit late to the party here

Doesnt sound like much he has done before.

I like it, funny , loads of nods to the Beasties and others, great video, loads of great bits.

Is Rick Rubin in the HOF? He should be. Man's a bloody genius.

If he's not in the HOF, he certainly belongs there. I'm holding out hope that he'll participate on the final BBoys project if there is one. Seeing Mike D & Rick paling around in the jay z black album making-of video would suggest this isn't altogether an impossible prospect.

[MCScoobyT]

Also: is it just me or are all 3 BBoys actually being being portrayed in the bezerk video? Mike D & Adrock by Em and MCA by Rubin

It's just you.
and
Kid Rock and Em are both from Detroit, both white rappers, both Beasties fan's and our favorite band paved the way for them. Why would Eminem not ask Kid Rock to make a cameo, duh!

Rubin is a cock.

Source: Rolling Stone Aug. 11, 1994

"There was a point where Rick probably didn't want me in because I deal with the business side," says Diamond. "Ultimately there was going to be a source of conflict there."

Horovitz is less diplomatic. "Rick thinks he knows what's best for everybody," says Horovitz. "Rick was the expendable motherfucker."

Should say Rubin was a cock. He has done nothing but help musicians, make hits and get richer since he got over 'wanting to be in the Beastie Boys'.

[Brass Monk]

It's just you.

Really?
2 of Em's wardrobes in the video are near replicas of Adrock's and Mike D's in So Whatcha Want. And Rick's hat and facial expressions in one of the camera angles (with Em in the Adrock clothes) is very MCA-like to me. Agree to disagree I guess

[MCScoobyT]

^Dude he's wearing the generic black snow cap rocked by um every rapper ever, if he wan't it to look like MCA, he could have at least picked one striped with the puff ball on top... You'er reaching ------> K.I.M.

[Brass Monk]

^Dude he's wearing the generic black snow cap rocked by um every rapper ever, if he wan't it to look like MCA, he could have at least picked one striped with the puff ball on top... You'er reaching ------> K.I.M.

Ok so it's not just me, you agree on 2 outta 3!

[Jiberish]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y at 1:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3gH27Fn6E at 2:23

It's not a perfect shot for shot recreation, but it's pretty apparent that this is intended as homage.

[MCScoobyT]

go listen to some kid rock, his hat and chain kinda looks like one DMC rocked once (read as: you have already watched that video more times than anyone should).

[Brass Monk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y at 1:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3gH27Fn6E at 2:23

It's not a perfect shot for shot recreation, but it's pretty apparent that this is intended as homage.

Yep, definitely

[JoLovesMCA]

I said before I thought the song was pretty good and after watching the video with RR I thought it was cool. It's definitely Beastie inspired all throughout from the video style, the clothes, that plaid is so Mike D and I thought I saw that UPS type uniform and hat MCA wore???? Well they all did.....

I am partial to anybody connected to the Beasties, but I do love what RR did with them, i like his sound. Its what interested me in hip hop anyway. And I like that this song doesn't sound like something made for the sake of nostalgia... You can tell he really does love and appreciate that era of hip hop. I like this.

[PIGCITY]

Unmemorable shocking piece of sh*t in my humble opinion. Never been down with anything that this guy has put out and apart from the obvious nods to the source this is not worth the 5 minutes I just spent listening to it.

[AJayAgliolio]

Eminem sure is polarizing on here lol :P

I, for one, have been an 'on and off' fan of him since he came on the scene in 98 and although i don't think this is his best work or anything, I really really dug this track...

i've been waiting for him to stop obsessing about himself, whining about his life and to mature a bit so he can just spit some Hip-Hop (he seriously is a brilliant lyricist) and I think he's on his way. He does well on this track with all the nods to the Boys and to Old School Hip Hop in general and I think overall it's just a real fun song. Rick Rubin co-producing his album really excites me too, i can't wait to hear the whole thing.

Oh and after a few listens to this track, I now dig the chorus, it's currently stuck in my head... damnit! lol...

[JoLovesMCA]

i've been waiting for him to stop obsessing about himself, whining about his life and to mature a bit so he can just spit some Hip-Hop (he seriously is a brilliant lyricist) and I think he's on his way.



Yes thank you because for me as a hip hop fan what I like is to hear them spit some Hip-hop as you so nicely put it. It's what I loved about the Beasties.

Not to say that a rapper shouldn't be able to tell their story or whine if they want to about life...but it's just not my thing. His lyrics are better than anything I have ever heard from him. Now this still won't make me go out and buy his music suddenly but..... it's a good song.

[ClarenceAlabama]

Really?
2 of Em's wardrobes in the video are near replicas of Adrock's and Mike D's in So Whatcha Want. And Rick's hat and facial expressions in one of the camera angles (with Em in the Adrock clothes) is very MCA-like to me. Agree to disagree I guess

Eminem said in an interview that The Beastie Boys and LL Cool J are the two artists than made him want to rap. You can tell by this video that he is paying homage to both of them.

I loved the blackjack scene at the end of the video which is recreated from LL's Going Back to Cali video. Too funny.

[Guy Incognito]

Rubin is a cock.

Source: Rolling Stone Aug. 11, 1994

"There was a point where Rick probably didn't want me in because I deal with the business side," says Diamond. "Ultimately there was going to be a source of conflict there."

Horovitz is less diplomatic. "Rick thinks he knows what's best for everybody," says Horovitz. "Rick was the expendable motherfucker."

Dont really give a monkeys about a quote made 20 years ago. Would be interesting to know what they thought about him now. I was just saying that if you think about some of the music he has been involved with that there must be something about the input that he has thats clearly got something.

[Jiberish]

Unmemorable shocking piece of sh*t in my humble opinion. Never been down with anything that this guy has put out and apart from the obvious nods to the source this is not worth the 5 minutes I just spent listening to it.


My exact reaction upon first listen. I have to say I found it earworming through my brain and had to come back for a second listen. I HATE the hook [even though it is the most memorable part] but some of his rhymes on here are impressive.

DaVinci's Pen & MC Ren. How has nobody put that rhyme together before?

oh and edit: I do like the vocal sample in the hook. And seeing it worked into the video [as a video guy myself] it is done really well.

[JohnnyChavello]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y at 1:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3gH27Fn6E at 2:23

It's not a perfect shot for shot recreation, but it's pretty apparent that this is intended as homage.

Notice how heavily Rubin is chewing his gum in those shots?

I also think it's pretty likely that the grainy footage of fights and backyard wrestling are an homage to the grainy footage of tsunamis, twisters, hurricanes and volcanoes in SWW.

He's trying to walk a pretty fine line - obviously wants to pay some respect to the Beastie Boys, but given the way this particular type of music immediately calls them to mind, the other references in the video have to be subtle or it just seems overdone.

I like it and appreciate the thought that went into it.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Dont really give a monkeys about a quote made 20 years ago. Would be interesting to know what they thought about him now. I was just saying that if you think about some of the music he has been involved with that there must be something about the input that he has thats clearly got something.

He makes good sandwiches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_sandwich).

[Brass Monk]

Notice how heavily Rubin is chewing his gum in those shots?



Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that.

[Brass Monk]

I loved the blackjack scene at the end of the video which is recreated from LL's Going Back to Cali video. Too funny.

I liked that reference too, it took me a bit to place it....

[Megalon X]

This song reminds me of why I stopped caring about him circa 2001. He has skills and lyrics on a technical level, but the songs he puts together sound like sonic garbage and leave me feeling hollow as opposed to tracks from other MCs. I don't know if Rick Rubin worked on this track, but Em some how managed to still fuck it up and make it sound wack.