✞✞✞ Champagne Jerry ✞✞✞

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Some new King Ad-Rock with ✞✞✞ Champagne Jerry ✞✞✞
I like it a lot so far (http://www.champagnejerry.com/). Look forward to hearing more from Jerry with
Max Tannone and Ad-Rock.

[abbott]

Three Things is cool by me

[Jay Stone]

Adrock didn't produce Three Things, though. Max Tannone did.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Adrock didn't produce Three Things, though. Max Tannone did.

I think you are right about that as the song credits and synopsis state:

"Three Things was written by Champagne Jerry (lyrics) and Max Tannone (music). It is a song that is like that first time you and I shook hands. It lets you know many important things about me:
Where I'm from, the fact that I won a rap contest in school, and the fact that my blood is a banned substance. It was written in a hotel in Minneapolis, recorded at Peter Yanowitz's house except for the chorus, which was recorded when I had a super fucked up stomach virus.
Three Things to know.
Nice to meet you."

[Jay Stone]

That Tampa Realness was the shit tho. Adrock needs to produce the majority of a Champagne Jerry release and I'd be all over that shit.

[cj hood]

take Adrock out of the equation and it's 'who gives a fuck?'

[Micodin]

I think the beats are kinda nice but everything else is pretty horrible.

But, that's just my 2 cents.

[YoungRemy]

take Adrock out of the equation and it's 'who gives a fuck?'

you are a very humble rapper, Champagne Jerry.

I know your secret.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

you are a very humble rapper, Champagne Jerry.

I know your secret.

CJ does stand for Champagne Jerry

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I think the beats are kinda nice but everything else is pretty horrible.

But, that's just my 2 cents.

I think CJ has brains and lyrical flow, a dangerous combination. A force to be reckoned with as I bet he could out rap anyone with that meta-rap mind of his :)

[Brass Monk]

I like Adrock's beat, too bad it was wasted on this guy.

I was initially willing to give Jerry a chance because Adrock vouched for him, but yikes is he terrible.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I like Adrock's beat, too bad it was wasted on this guy.

Who do you think he should have given the beat to?

[kingcrimson024]

Who do you think he should have given the beat to?

Ontologics for sure! From what I heard, their album is going to be dope.
Pt 1: http://youtu.be/H0kVxrccX_s
Pt 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtgIUXxVt4

MF DOOM or Atmosphere would have been good choices too!

[Micodin]

Ontologics for sure! From what I heard, their album is going to be dope.
Pt 1: http://youtu.be/H0kVxrccX_s
Pt 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtgIUXxVt4

MF DOOM or Atmosphere would have been good choices too!

Are you in this group? Is that why you're spamming the board with links? Sheesh.

[Brass Monk]

Who do you think he should have given the beat to?

Himself.

[pshabi]

Seriously. Would love to hear Adam and Mike make some hip hop with them rhyming. Solo or together. I'm sure that is the feeling amongst all of us but felt the need to chime in. I read this board daily but rarely post....so nobody knows it! Just making my presence known. As you were. ;)

[kingcrimson024]

Are you in this group? Is that why you're spamming the board with links? Sheesh.

Micodin, no I'm not in the band. No it is not spam, open your ears. Just trying to trying to share some underground shit, on a board where I would expect it is appreciated, and for the most part it is.

As far as Champagne Jerry goes, I was joking and poking fun at the obvious stark comparison in music talent & lyrical prowess, being that Ontologics has chops, Jerry seems like "Revenge of the Nerds part VIII" the album.

But yea, like I said would love to hear the Mike & Adam take a stab at it, or even Hurricane would have been a better choice. Elbow Room live was always the shit, especially with Yauch on upright bass!

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Ontologics has chops, Jerry seems like "Revenge of the Nerds part VIII" the album.

I like Champagne Jerry better than Ontologics (appears to be a cheap copy of the Beastie Boys) and Eminem [a more expensive top 40 copy of Beastie Boys and others who I never really liked (solo Dre, Snoop etc), but Eminem does]. Champangne Jerry is designed to make us laugh at times, feel uncomfortable, enter the surreal and possibly make us question rap / hip hop cliches. Champagne Jerry does rap well, especially in the context of his unique genre.

[YoungRemy]

this performance art persona CJ is not taking himself seriously, I don't think anyone involved is, and I don't think anyone here should either.

it's a joke. regardless of whether you are laughing with/at Champagne Jerry, Adrock is making music and beats with his friends.

that's always been the formula.

[3stooges]

Eminem [a more expensive top 40 copy of Beastie Boys and others who I never really liked (solo Dre, Snoop etc)

Eminem likes the Beasties, and he was influenced by them when he was young, but to say he's a copy of them is just......come on.... Technically, he can rhyme circles around all of them at the same time. And that is not exaggerating. Anyone who knows anything about rapping will agree. And as far as topics/themes, I don't know how he is a copy of them at all. They're from totally different backgrounds and talk about totally different things. The only thing I could say might be similar about them, is sometimes his voice might sound a bit similar, a little bit...now whether a person prefers one or the other is all a matter of taste, and who one feels is a better artist, is objective, and another conversation entirely....but calling Em a copy....just not true...the guy is a total original.

There are some people on this board who know what they are talking about. But overall it seems like 90% of my posts end up being correcting some jive statement someone's made.

[Brass Monk]

Eminem likes the Beasties, and he was influenced by them when he was young, but to say he's a copy of them is just......come on.... Technically, he can rhyme circles around all of them at the same time. And that is not exaggerating. Anyone who knows anything about rapping will agree. And as far as topics/themes, I don't know how he is a copy of them at all. They're from totally different backgrounds and talk about totally different things. The only thing I could say might be similar about them, is sometimes his voice might sound a bit similar, a little bit...now whether a person prefers one or the other is all a matter of taste, and who one feels is a better artist, is objective, and another conversation entirely....but calling Em a copy....just not true...the guy is a total original.

There are some people on this board who know what they are talking about. But overall it seems like 90% of my posts end up being correcting some jive statement someone's made.

Eminem may be a better lyricist , but that doesn't necessarily make him a better rapper. Like Guru said, "it's mostly the voice that gets you up". And the bboys make better albums and songs, i bet even em would secretly admit that.But I agree that it's silly to call em a copy of the BBoys though and silly to try elevate champagne Jerry above hip hop legends like Dre & Snoop.

[Micodin]

Micodin, no I'm not in the band. No it is not spam, open your ears. Just trying to trying to share some underground shit, on a board where I would expect it is appreciated, and for the most part it is.

There's another forum on BBMB that's Other Music. A lot of people post there, myself included.

I still think they are pretty horrible tho. But that's just like my opinion man.

[Odie]

There are some people on this board who know what they are talking about. But overall it seems like 90% of my posts end up being correcting some jive statement someone's made.

And what a pointless contribution that is.

Oh great now this is another Eminem thread, yawn. Back on topic, this is a fun satire and pretty interesting listening up to now

[Brass Monk]

And what a pointless contribution that is.

Oh great now this is another Eminem thread, yawn. Back on topic, this is a fun satire and pretty interesting listening up to now

I hardly see the injustice of a champagne Jerry thread becoming an eminem thread. Seems like an upgrade in a discussion topic to me,IMO.
But no reason not to think both cannot be discussed.

[fonky pizza]

CHAMPAGNE KARATE I like that!

[Michelle*s_Farm]

CHAMPAGNE KARATE I like that!

Same here. Great title for a song or LP.

[3stooges]

Eminem may be a better lyricist , but that doesn't necessarily make him a better rapper. Like Guru said, "it's mostly the voice that gets you up". And the bboys make better albums and songs, i bet even em would secretly admit that.But I agree that it's silly to call em a copy of the BBoys though and silly to try elevate champagne Jerry above hip hop legends like Dre & Snoop.

Well, if Beasties are better at making songs, it's because of their ability musically as producers and arrangers. If we talk about rhyming, I love the Beasties till the day I die dude, but the fact is, Eminem is on another level in all respects. Lyrics, rapping, songwriting, all of the above. It's clear as day. Not really sure what your point is about his voice as the Beasties don't have great voices either.

[Lex Diamonds]

Got bitches on my jock out in East Detroit
Cuz they think that I'm a motherfuckin' Beastie Boy

[abbott]

Well,... Eminem is on another level in all respects. Lyrics, rapping, songwriting, all of the above. It's clear as day. Not really sure what your point is about his voice as the Beasties don't have great voices either.

I guess I am to old to agree. I do like a few Eminem productions, but unfortunately Lyrics and audio production from the Beastie Boys our own their own level that Eminem tries to achieve.

Its not real fair to compare the 2 because they both have their own place. But saying the Beastie's productions or vocals lack makes me question your understanding.

[YoungRemy]

Not really sure what your point is about his voice as the Beasties don't have great voices either.


they are only three of the most distinctive and unique voices in the history of their genre.

[3stooges]

I guess I am to old to agree. I do like a few Eminem productions, but unfortunately Lyrics and audio production from the Beastie Boys our own their own level that Eminem tries to achieve.

Its not real fair to compare the 2 because they both have their own place. But saying the Beastie's productions or vocals lack makes me question your understanding.

Age has nothing to do with it, and I don't know how old you are but I'd be willing to wager I'm older...

If you are questioning my understanding, that's ironic, cause I'm questioning yours. Did you read my post ? I never said the Beasties production skills lack. On the contrary. I'd say the best Beastie productions are at the highest level. I love Dre's productions too, but I can see how the Beasties can be favored. But that is more a matter of taste rather than outright superiority, as Dre is a genius in his own right.

Rhyming's another story. I'm not saying the Beastie's "lack" necessarily, just saying Eminem's better at that part. A lot better. I don't need people to agree with me for me to know this, but the fact is if you ask any of the greatest rappers of all time, they'll tell you the same.

[Brass Monk]

Well, if Beasties are better at making songs, it's because of their ability musically as producers and arrangers. If we talk about rhyming, I love the Beasties till the day I die dude, but the fact is, Eminem is on another level in all respects. Lyrics, rapping, songwriting, all of the above. It's clear as day. Not really sure what your point is about his voice as the Beasties don't have great voices either.

If? It's a little suspect that you would even pose that as a question. IMO, it's pretty crazy to put EM ahead in the songwriting category.
As far as the voice is concerned, MCA had an amazing MCing voice that was absolutely better than Em's and most anybody else (to say otherwise is a "jive statement"). We can go back and forth on the other 2, but you can't front on Yauch in this category.
I'll give you an example as far the Beasties' being superior rappers:
The final verse of the New Style. You can take any verse Em has ever made and Em's will lose against that one (and others I could name). Em surely has lyrics with more complicated rhyme schemes, but that alone doesn't make him better. Why does the New Style verse win? Because it moves heads more. It's easy to get rapping and lyricism confused, but there is a distinction to made between the 2. There are plenty of MC's that have come and gone that have more in the way of "lyricism", but are just not better rappers. I don't just apply this argument to favor the Beastie Boys, I apply it to many other of the classic older groups such as (but not limited to) PE, Run DMC and Whodini. I have come across of a couple fellow Hip Hop fans that have articulated the opinion I think you're trying to make, that being super-lyrical is the highest virtue and the one that only really matters in Hip Hop. Nonsense!
I have respect for Em. There's only 2 white Hip Hop artists in the history of the genre that really, really mattered and it's the BBoys and him. But the fact is (I'll use the word fact because you decided to use it) you're just wrong on this one.

[3stooges]

they are only three of the most distinctive and unique voices in the history of their genre.

It's absolutely true, but we could say the same for Eminem also, so...not sure the point there.

They have three voices bouncing off one another, so it is certainly an iconic and original sound they have. Some may really enjoy that. I do. It doesn't mean they rap better than him though.

[3stooges]

If? It's a little suspect that you would even pose that as a question. IMO, it's pretty crazy to put EM ahead in the songwriting category.
As far as the voice is concerned, MCA had an amazing MCing voice that was absolutely better than Em's and most anybody else (to say otherwise is a "jive statement"). We can go back and forth on the other 2, but you can't front on Yauch in this category.
I'll give you an example as far the Beasties' being superior rappers:
The final verse of the New Style. You can take any verse Em has ever made and Em's will lose against that one (and others I could name). Em surely has lyrics with more complicated rhyme schemes, but that alone doesn't make him better. Why does the New Style verse win? Because it moves heads more. It's easy to get rapping and lyricism confused, but there is a distinction to made between the 2. There are plenty of MC's that have come and gone that have more in the way of "lyricism", but are just not better rappers. I don't just apply this argument to favor the Beastie Boys, I apply it to many other of the classic older groups such as (but not limited to) PE, Run DMC and Whodini. I have come across of a couple fellow Hip Hop fans that have articulated the opinion I think you're trying to make, that being super-lyrical is the highest virtue and the one that only really matters in Hip Hop. Nonsense!
I have respect for Em. There's only 2 white Hip Hop artists in the history of the genre that really, really mattered and it's the BBoys and him. But the fact is (I'll use the word fact because you decided to use it) you're just wrong on this one.

I recognize the distinction between "lyricism" and "rapping". Believe me. You don't need to explain it to me. I've been around this for a long time. I feel Eminem wins in all respects, lyricism, flow, cadence, rhyme patterns, wordplay, songwriting, the whole thing. I'm not saying every song, but overall....he's a lot better at rhyming dude.

I like MCA's voice too but there's more to it than just voice...

I think if you think the Beasties are "superior rappers", you just must be biased a little bit. You just like them better. But that doesn't mean they are. I know how that is.

Not really sure why you bring up them both being white.

I mean seriously man....if you think they are "superior"....then who is superior to them.....Nas ? Gang Starr ? I mean you don't really think they are up with them do you ? Cause to me Eminem is, but not the Beasties.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I'll give you an example as far the Beasties' being superior rappers:
The final verse of the New Style.

Nice example, I agree that there are many others to choose from. Not sure why some people like Eminem so much beyond a few of his catchy songs: His videos are a bit cheesy (often in a bad way), his collaborations are often lame (and notably never included Beastie Boys!) and his personality / contributions outside music have been abysmal. I think these things certainly matter.

[Brass Monk]

I recognize the distinction between "lyricism" and "rapping". Believe me. You don't need to explain it to me. I've been around this for a long time. I feel Eminem wins in all respects, lyricism, flow, cadence, rhyme patterns, wordplay, songwriting, the whole thing. I'm not saying every song, but overall....he's a lot better at rhyming dude.

I like MCA's voice too but there's more to it than just voice...

I think if you think the Beasties are "superior rappers", you just must be biased a little bit. You just like them better. But that doesn't mean they are. I know how that is.

Not really sure why you bring up them both being white.

I mean seriously man....if you think they are "superior"....then who is superior to them.....Nas ? Gang Starr ? I mean you don't really think they are up with them do you ? Cause to me Eminem is, but not the Beasties.

You just said before that you thought the Beastie Boys don't have great voices but now you're saying you like Yauch's voice? (it's hard to have a debate if you magically change your position with no explanation!)

I strongly feel that lyricism is the only category where Em wins. It's laughable to put Em ahead of them in songwriting (amongst other categories), given how historically weak his choruses have always been.

I mentioned them both being white because it kinda of piece of trivia that they both undeniably share. I thought that would be obvious.

As far as being the best "rapper". I admit that this term is often used to highlight lyricists above all else. When periodic lists of best rapper or MC come out, they clearly are talking about lyricists. Take my last comment and replace the word rappers with hip hop artists. And yes, they are up there with anyone.

There are lots of other rhymes that I'd rather listen to by the BBoys than ones Em have done. I could give more examples, but what's the point? You clearly have your mind made up on this (and me too, to be honest).

My distinctions are ultimately correct. Otherwise nobody would care, like, or reference albums and lyrics from the 80's as much as they do. It's primarily because the beats and rhymes are ill, not nostalgia.

But agree to disagree I guess.

[abbott]

Originally Posted by 3stooges "Well,... Eminem is on another level in all respects. Lyrics, rapping, songwriting, all of the above. It's clear as day. Not really sure what your point is about his voice as the Beasties don't have great voices either"

My point is, Eminem is not on some higher level than The Beastie Boys in all respects.

The Beasties have great voices.

I hate to hear that you are questioning my understanding.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I strongly feel that lyricism is the only category where Em wins. It's laughable to put Em ahead of them in songwriting (amongst other categories), given how historically weak his choruses have always been.

I agree with the gist above, however lyricism in rap also includes "symbolism and metaphor" -- not so sure Em wins there. For example, below is some powerful lyricism from our man MCA (can Em really touch this in terms of symbolism and metaphor?):

Burn like fire when I step on the scene
I've got shark's teeth so I can bite your head
I've got tiger's claws that will scratch you dead
I've got wings like a dragon when I'm flying above
Shoot venom from my eyes when it's time to get rough

So step back, and check yourself
This MC'S got weapons that'll ruin your health
So if you're feeling strong then reach for yours
My book is my shield and my mic is my sword

[Brass Monk]

I agree with the gist above, however lyricism in rap also includes "symbolism and metaphor" -- not so sure Em wins there. For example, below is some powerful lyricism from our man MCA (can Em really touch this in terms of symbolism and metaphor?):

Burn like fire when I step on the scene
I've got shark's teeth so I can bite your head
I've got tiger's claws that will scratch you dead
I've got wings like a dragon when I'm flying above
Shoot venom from my eyes when it's time to get rough

So step back, and check yourself
This MC'S got weapons that'll ruin your health
So if you're feeling strong then reach for yours
My book is my shield and my mic is my sword

I think strictly on the lyrical tip (constructing complex rhyme schmes), Em wins.

I personally love that verse you mentioned more for Yauch's delivery and voice than the actual lyrical content.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I think strictly on the lyrical tip (constructing complex rhyme schemes), Em wins.

I personally love that verse you mentioned more for Yauch's delivery and voice than the actual lyrical content.

Yauch's delivery of those lines is golden.

[Brass Monk]

The Beasties have great voices.



I seemed to have gotten him to eventually admit that Yauch's was better. But I neglected to emphasize Adrock's voice too (one of the most sampled in Hip Hop).

Have Eminem say (or picture him saying) the words "Drop" "Kick it" "Yeah!" or "Pump it up homeboy!"

Exactly. Class dismissed.

[Brass Monk]

We can go back and forth on the other 2, but you can't front on Yauch in this category.


Typo: We can go back and forth on the other one (Mike D)

[JohnnyChavello]

I've had arguments with people who swear Pat Metheny is a better, more influential guitar player than Jimi Hendrix. I've had arguments with people who think Ray Barbee is a shitty skater. I think they're missing the point by a mile. What makes someone a good MC is a mix of different things, patterns and schemes are part of it, but only a part. Anybody remember Canibus? He was supposed to be the greatest rapper alive in 1999, the problem is he never said anything anybody wanted to listen to more than once. The Beasties' vocals have been sampled repeatedly because they resonate. That's as much a part of the equation as anything else.

Just read the construction of this rhyme and tell me MCA isn't a badass lyricist. It's a deconstruction, from input to output, of the entire process of listening to and recording music and every point of contact along the way between him and you. It's genius. I won't claim they're the greatest pure lyricists alive, but they're pretty fucking amazing despite the conventional wisdom.

I'd listen to the records and they'd inspire
Sit down to write and the pen breathes fire
Construct a rhyme with specific intent
Flowin' from the brain cells, right through the pen
And then I put the book down, grab a hold of the mic
Words flowin' so cold, turn water to ice
Come through the wire, saturate the tape
You put me in the mix, nice it up with the plate
And then they press it on wax, sell it in the store
The DJ spin the record out on the dance floor
Comin' through the speakers to shake your eardrum
Brain cells get lit, then you hear where we're comin' from

[MCScoobyT]

To all of you that are loving Champagne Jerry... would you really buy his LP (not download it for free).
Cus there is no way I'm buying that when it drops, Ad-Rock production/features or anything else... it's not worth my money

[pm0ney]

To me, Eminem is a better wordsmith in the sense his flows and rhyming scheme are superior to the Beastie Boys from a technical standpoint. I guess you could say he's a better lyricist in that regard.

I'd take the Beastie Boys in basically every other aspect of the game. Voices, music, originality, production, lyrical content and catalogue to me are all vastly superior to Eminems.

Again though, it's all personal preference. Music is so subjective that there is no right or wrong.

And to keep it on topic, I can't stand this Champagne Jerry guy. Sounds like a big joke to me.

[M|X|Y]

Sounds like a big joke to me.

perceptive!

(it is a joke)

[Lex Diamonds]

This debate is pointless. The fact is, the majority of Beastie Boys fans don't know shit about hip-hop. At least on here, anyway.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

This debate is pointless. The fact is, the majority of Beastie Boys fans don't know shit about hip-hop. At least on here, anyway.

That is a sweeping judgement. I suppose any message board has a variety of fans with different levels of music knowledge.

I always thought around the time of Ill Communication the Beasties consciously developed a more knowledgeable fan-base. One would think that a lot of those people probably hang out here. During LTI days there were probably knowledgeable fans as well but they may have been people already part of a hip hop community. Granted some of Beastie's early rap rock fans probably did not know the first thing about hip hop. Surely this has changed? Also consider that much of the 'insider information' on the history of hip hop is now available online, so the knowledge is not as difficult to come by these days.

Beastie Boys should win the 'rap contest' on their own BBMB.

[Lex Diamonds]

I just despise sycophancy, that's all. Any objective music lover, no matter how much they love these awesome dudes, will concede that they are far from the greatest rappers by any stretch.

[pshabi]

I just despise sycophancy, that's all. Any objective music lover, no matter how much they love these awesome dudes, will concede that they are far from the greatest rappers by any stretch.

Padster is a MASSIVE douchebag. But he is spot on here. You don't have to be a technical wizard to produce amazing music folks. There are many examples of that across all genres.

[Lex Diamonds]

Despite his pathetic haterdom/penis envy towards me, pshabi still acknowledges that I always make an incisive and righteous point, every single time.

Thanks bud.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Despite his pathetic haterdom/penis envy towards me

penis envy is a bummer

[Michelle*s_Farm]

You don't have to be a technical wizard to produce amazing music folks. There are many examples of that across all genres.

Technical wizards could be at a disadvantage in several respects (e.g., missing the big picture of the genre or the ability to meaningful synthesize different components of a song). I think this may even apply to professions outside music.

[abbott]

This debate is pointless. The fact is, the majority of Beastie Boys fans don't know shit about hip-hop. At least on here, anyway.

See that's my point. I am a member of the BBMB and not knowledgable about other shit.

How often did the Beasties talk about and dress like these others that talk about and dress like them?

What about that latest photo of CJ?

Do you think other people with the initials CJ like their association with Mr. Jerry.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

What about that latest photo of CJ?
Do you think other people with the initials CJ like their association with Mr. Jerry.

This one? (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/tampa-realness-single/id685659235)

Here are some individuals with the initials CJ that would not mind being associated with Champagne Jerry:

Cujo (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qZIuwBseF6Q/UWll09qvCvI/AAAAAAAB6fE/EwBX4k7Q6iE/s400/cujo.preview_0.jpg) (aka CJ)

Christ Jesus (http://metrobibleblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jesus-holding-earth1.jpg) (known as CJ)

CJ the Chimp (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/textarticle_640/2012/08/14/chimps_newstory.jpg) (aka chimper-chomper)

[YoungRemy]

It's absolutely true, but we could say the same for Eminem also, so...not sure the point there.

They have three voices bouncing off one another, so it is certainly an iconic and original sound they have. Some may really enjoy that. I do. It doesn't mean they rap better than him though.


we are talking about different things. to me, when someone talks about a rapper's voice, we aren't talking about if they are a good rapper or their lyrics. I'm not talking about the three of them and their combined rhyme/delivery style.

I am talking about their inflections, tone, timbre, etc that makes each one unique, in no comparison to any other individual or group.
I am talking about the nasal inflections or gruff raspy sound that each of the three beastie boys make...

I never claim to be an expert on hip hop. I'm only interested in the B Boys...

To all of you that are loving Champagne Jerry... would you really buy his LP (not download it for free).
Cus there is no way I'm buying that when it drops, Ad-Rock production/features or anything else... it's not worth my money

of course not. I don't even like, love, or dislike the music.

I get that it's a joke and the guy happens to have access to Adrock, Max Tannone, and Cey Adams to help him along the way.

comparing this guy and trying to make it a real discussion about hip hop is where the joke gets really funny...

[Micodin]

Everything is subjective.

"Best rapper alive hear that line used less often" - Joey Bada$$

The new Danny Brown record that dropped yesterday is pure heat. After hearing it I could make an argument that he's the best rapper right now.

Comparing Eminem to the Beastie Boys might be entertaining but in the long run it's futile.

Apples and oranges.

It's fun to debate and argue but no one really gives a shit.

It's all about what you like.

Action Bronson has the best attitude when it comes to rappers. "If you like my music, thank you for listening. If you don't like it, thank you for listening."

Anyways.

[kingcrimson024]

Everything is subjective.

"Best rapper alive hear that line used less often" - Joey Bada$$

The new Danny Brown record that dropped yesterday is pure heat. After hearing it I could make an argument that he's the best rapper right now.

Comparing Eminem to the Beastie Boys might be entertaining but in the long run it's futile.

Apples and oranges.

It's fun to debate and argue but no one really gives a shit.

It's all about what you like.

Action Bronson has the best attitude when it comes to rappers. "If you like my music, thank you for listening. If you don't like it, thank you for listening."

Anyways.

Yes all art is subjective. A friend of mine saw Action Bronson at the Met, and said they were good, and he didn't even sell merch or anything at the gig. The Beasties are more versatile in their musical approach, that's why the live shows exist with hiphop into instrumentals into hardcore, making them more versatile than a lot of other acts. But, yea Eminem is a different angle and has more sophisticated and intricate deliveries, regardless if you like the lyrical content.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

The new Danny Brown record that dropped yesterday is pure heat. After hearing it I could make an argument that he's the best rapper right now.


He might well be (http://www.stereogum.com/1477552/danny-brown-side-a-old/mp3s/)

[Kid Presentable]

Comparing beasties to em is like comparing beatles to slayer. And the rationale provided in this thread has for the most part been woeful. Beastie Boys have always ridden in their own lane, and that's what they always got props for.

EDIT: Danny Brown rules.

[Brass Monk]

Comparing BBoys to Em is simply problematic because they are of different generations (Older School vs Newer School, if you will). That's it in a nutshell.

However, there are a couple of parallels that do exist between the 2 artists, such as the crazy white boy image and initially aligning themselves with other legendary Hip Hop artists.

As their respective careers progressed, they became more and more different. But when they first hit the scene in the mid 80's and late 90's respectively they did have some significant stuff in common. You could easily make the argument that Em was using the playbook the BBoys had pretty much written over 10 years earlier.

I think all of this is why, as Eminem has said even when he first started, that the BBoys are the group that made him want to rap (and hence the great "Berzerk" tribute song & video).

[abbott]

this is the photo I was thinking of:
http://instagram.com/p/eS6Cwuwt7-/

it amazing because this is exactly the CJ related names I was thinking.

Cujo (aka CJ)

Christ Jesus (known as CJ)

CJ the Chimp (aka chimper-chomper)

[Michelle*s_Farm]

this is the http://instagram.com/p/eTL2LApl-k/photo I was thinking of:
http://instagram.com/p/eS6Cwuwt7-/

it amazing because this is exactly the CJ related names I was thinking.

Cujo (aka CJ)

Christ Jesus (known as CJ)

CJ the Chimp (aka chimper-chomper)

Awesome a mind melt :)

Like this pic with King (http://instagram.com/p/eTL2LApl-k/) as well

[Turchinator]

Micodin, no I'm not in the band. No it is not spam, open your ears. Just trying to trying to share some underground shit, on a board where I would expect it is appreciated, and for the most part it is.


bullshit dude.

beastie influenced (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99412) (July 2013)
beastie boys influenced artist (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99136) (March 2013)
from then to now (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99418)
fuzz bass and trippy (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99162)
hey guys-i made this with one with the beasties in mind, originally I had some samples of the beasties root down, but we took it out in post for copyright reasons, but let me know what you think and junk...sorry for the re-post I put it in the wrong forum.

why would you want to promote a band while being dishonest to the board?

[Micodin]

bullshit dude.

beastie influenced (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99412) (July 2013)
beastie boys influenced artist (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99136) (March 2013)
from then to now (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99418)
fuzz bass and trippy (http://bbs.beastieboys.com/showthread.php?t=99162)


why would you want to promote a band while being dishonest to the board?

Oh man, I knew something fishy was going on here with all the spam in the General Beastie Boys Discussion forum.

I asked dude to put it in the Other Music forum to no avail.

Good eye, Turch.

[kingcrimson024]

eh micoden come on, really that difficult to figure out? it only took you 6 months. haha relax. i have been posting on here for almost ten years now, oh well.

[Micodin]

eh micoden come on, really that difficult to figure out? it only took you 6 months. haha relax. i have been posting on here for almost ten years now, oh well.

Eat a bag of dicks.

[kingcrimson024]

Eat a bag of dicks.

Relax. Are you really this mad over nothing, good luck with that? This is a bulletin board fyi.

[Micodin]

Relax. Are you really this mad over nothing, good luck with that? This is a bulletin board fyi.

I'm rarely mad. Sarcastic? Maybe. Dissing me and my music isn't going to phase me, fuck boy. I'm not the one constantly shamelessly spamming the board with your shitty bands music links and having the balls claiming that if you like the Beasties then you're going to like this too.

Get the fuck outta here with that noise.

I've posted my music in the proper forums. Remixes and Other Music.

You spam the shit out of General Beastie Boys Discussion with your links because you think it's going to get more views.

Guess what? No one gives a fuck about 311 or your fucking band.

Suck me from the back.

[kingcrimson024]

I'm rarely mad. Sarcastic? Maybe. Dissing me and my music isn't going to phase me, fuck boy. I'm not the one constantly shamelessly spamming the board with your shitty bands music links and having the balls claiming that if you like the Beasties then you're going to like this too.

Get the fuck outta here with that noise.

I've posted my music in the proper forums. Remixes and Other Music.

You spam the shit out of General Beastie Boys Discussion with your links because you think it's going to get more views.

Guess what? No one gives a fuck about 311 or your fucking band.

Suck me from the back.

Wow guy? Seriously, some people listen and enjoy, and some don't. In this life of risk and chaos, why come across so harsh & ignorant, is that cool where your from? I'm a fan of the beasties and I share my shit sometimes, get over it.

[Micodin]

Wow guy? Seriously, some people listen and enjoy, and some don't. In this life of risk and chaos, why come across so harsh & ignorant, is that cool where your from? I'm a fan of the beasties and I share my shit sometimes, get over it.

I'm over it.

Peace.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

New track by Champagne Jerry. Great one with the help of Max Tannone and also Carmine (The Julie Ruin -- their new LP is well worth checking out).

email from CJ below:

------

"A REAL GHOST CAUGHT ON TAPE!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Oh hey, didn't see you there!

It's me Champagne Jerry. And we have a new single for you this month and it is called

BE NUMBER ONE
Download it HERE (http://goo.gl/yI9KaF):

ALSO COMING SOON TO ITUNES, AMAZON, SPOTIFY, ETC.

It's got a beat by Carmine Covelli of The Julie Ruin and Bridget Everett & the Tender Moments and mixed by Max Tannone!

It's got lyrics by me, Mr. Champagne Jerry!

It's haunted by a ghost!

Namely, the Ghost of Champagne Past, an actual ghost and a member of my onstage entourage who haunts me, tries to make me unhappy and remind me of horrible shit that has happened to me in the past.

SO CHECK IT OUT!"

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Easier link to access if you just want to stream it:

New Track (http://www.champagnejerry.com/benumberone) by Champagne Jerry called "Be Number One"

[M|X|Y]

:D(y)

[Michelle*s_Farm]

:D(y)

I really do think CJ is funny and talented. He definitely puts a smile on my face when I am down.

[Jiberish]

I really do think CJ is funny and talented. He definitely puts a smile on my face when I am down.

I agree.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Easier link to access if you just want to stream it:

New Track (http://www.champagnejerry.com/benumberone) by Champagne Jerry called "Be Number One"

Video is now up, and just like I expected, it is perfection.

[fonky pizza]

the videos deliver such a realness!

[SoundScientist]

Are you in this group? Is that why you're spamming the board with links? Sheesh.

They sound like a horrible Linkin Park cover band.

[kingcrimson024]

They sound like a horrible Linkin Park cover band.

Actually I existed as a writer and musician before linkin park. Linkin Park is a shitty rock rap band put together by record labels. If you actually had an ear than you wouldn't be comparing my art to something specifically designed to sell records.