Release another album?

[pesto pizza]

Do you think Adam and Mike should release a last album using the Autumn/fall 2011 recordings sessions with Yauch and HSC's other part?
Or just leave it Alone.

[KENNY GUIDO]

of course. I would love to see them go on. I am sure Adam would have wanted to to as well. Im sure they are still grieving but it may take a long time before they can do it. They have been best friends for 30-40 years. they are the perfect example of a perfect band. they had done things very few people and musicians could have claimed to ever have done in a lifetime. I can wait for another album. I know it hurts everytime they step into a studio. I am most certain. :(

[MCScoobyT]

it will come out with the memoirs book.

[Megalon X]

If they weren't doing that, I think they would have said so by now. They seem to be avoiding interviews about their music and stuff recently.

[3stooges]

As far as releasing old stuff that was already recorded, it would be up to them to decide if they think it's good enough. Some stuff just never gets released because they don't feel it's up to that standard. They might feel even more responsible to that high standard now that Yauch is gone, as a way of honoring his legacy.

Personally (and I'm not them, but) if there was anything left over from what they did with MCA that they thought was good enough to be released, I'd work it over and polish it up, and just release it as an "extras" album. I mean of course anything that is put out now will always just be looked at as a posthumous release anyway, an assembling of unreleased songs...

Then any new songs they come up with now, would just be a new Mike and Adrock project starting fresh. That's assuming they want to do new stuff together.

This way they get some sort of closure and are ready to move on to new things. It's painful and difficult no doubt. I guess one good thing they have going is they have money...they don't have to work if they don't want to.....they can take as much time as they feel like....so no pressure far as that goes...

[Megalon X]

I don't think people want an "extras" album. They want a cohesive work. Even if the material is pulled form different time periods, there is a way to make it work as a single LP. Other groups that experienced similar tragedies were able to do that.

[Kid Presentable]

Coda. I'd take unreleased music in whatever form they were happy with. The 2011 sessions, aquatic sessions, high grade out takes (you listen to the CYH commentary, Yauch and Adrock talk about some mystery instrumental which has never seen the light of day; the latter being familiar enough with it to even hum a couple of bars), HSC. Although something weirds me out about the idea of HSC tracks.

Anyway, I bet there is far more available than one would expect.

Only two issues; you couldn't really promote it traditionally because the jokey jokey B Boys would be overshadowed by the elephant in the room, and secondly why should they even bother?

[3stooges]

I don't think people want an "extras" album. They want a cohesive work. Even if the material is pulled form different time periods, there is a way to make it work as a single LP. Other groups that experienced similar tragedies were able to do that.

Well you can make it into a single LP and market it as such, but it's usually pretty noticeable when these posthumous things come out that they're kind of just some unreleased stuff gathered together and put out. Unless it's like someone that had an album done and died before it came out like Biggie.

I mean let's be honest, if the stuff comes out it's just coming out because he died. If he was still alive they'd be doing new stuff and putting that out instead, or maybe redoing/reworking an unreleased track or two to make it better and then put it out.

[Kid Presentable]

And although we can talk about it providing closure for them, it's somewhat selfishly motivated. And that's fine, because I love the group. To that end, I'd be happy selfishly requesting just one song. Not touched up, whatever. Raining down on me in my shower.

[Megalon X]

Well you can make it into a single LP and market it as such, but it's usually pretty noticeable when these posthumous things come out that they're kind of just some unreleased stuff gathered together and put out. Unless it's like someone that had an album done and died before it came out like Biggie.

I mean let's be honest, if the stuff comes out it's just coming out because he died. If he was still alive they'd be doing new stuff and putting that out instead, or maybe redoing/reworking an unreleased track or two to make it better and then put it out.

There's other examples. Like Queen. They pulled stuff from years before and re-worked it so it sounded like it was part of a single album, and it's a critically acclaimed LP. It can be done as long as there's a steady hand at the till. I wouldn't mind if they included some stuff that Mario C. referred to as having in his vault.

I don't think it's wrong to do that. So it's kind of a moot point. They're not going to be doing new stuff as a trio regardless.

Only two issues; you couldn't really promote it traditionally because the jokey jokey B Boys would be overshadowed by the elephant in the room, and secondly why should they even bother?
The Spike Lee video with the action figures already seemed like them problem solving what to do with Yauch not being well enough to participate in a full length video shoot on screen. At least that's what I'm assuming here. I'm sure they could figure out something.

[Kid Presentable]

The Spike Jonze thing is fair, and a good video for what it was. But what it was was still a band operating far below capacity.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

What kind of weirdo would not want a new Beastie Boys album? MCA goes into the studio and records tracks just before he was going to die from a terrible cancer and you do not want his work to see the light of day? That is nutty. My world still has MCA in it, where his brain has been downloaded into an autonomous supercomputer at Oscilloscope Laboratories.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah but your world is odd.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Yeah but your world is odd.

You are right about that. Things are a bit strange here.

[Micodin]

With their vast discography, I'm set. HSCP2 was enough closure for me. I don't want a half-assed incomplete posthumous MCA Beastie Boy record.

The vault never opened when MCA was alive... I don't see it opening after he passed.

[Guy Incognito]

i think closure is the big word there.

agree with micodin (which is a rare occurrence for me!).

I understand the need to hear stuff you dont know about but i think respecting the possibility that mike and adam want to draw a line under everything is something to think about.

I'm not having a go here i just think we have to deal with the fact that that really is it in terms of releases. I hope i am wrong.

[Laver1969]

We're not sure what the memoir is going to consist of. I'm thinking this will be that closing chapter. Maybe some tracks, goofy stuff, serious stuff. Something that has a beastie touch.

I'd be thrilled with any unreleased stuffs that comes out. Like the chapelle video gold.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

With their vast discography, I'm set. HSCP2 was enough closure for me. I don't want a half-assed incomplete posthumous MCA Beastie Boy record.

The vault never opened when MCA was alive... I don't see it opening after he passed.

I think the vault opened for the anthology, country mike, in sounds, and the re-issues no? Or maybe you mean something different by the vault, the Mario C vault. I think they could release a b-sides / rare tracks / authorised biography thingy / rare videos thingy. I do hope the two of them start a new project together though merging their various interests into a new sound.

[dave790]

With their vast discography, I'm set. HSCP2 was enough closure for me. I don't want a half-assed incomplete posthumous MCA Beastie Boy record.

The vault never opened when MCA was alive... I don't see it opening after he passed.

I have to agree. Beastie Boys is done, but the music and memories will live forever. That said, I would like to see the thing that was filmed during the Gala tour.

With the 'tracks' they recorded towards the end (late 2011), I personally don't think they were making anything with a release in mind. I assume they all just wanted some time together doing what they love.

[Micodin]

I think the vault opened for the anthology, country mike, in sounds, and the re-issues no? Or maybe you mean something different by the vault, the Mario C vault. I think they could release a b-sides / rare tracks / authorised biography thingy / rare videos thingy. I do hope the two of them start a new project together though merging their various interests into a new sound.

I was referring to the "vault" that they promised to open during the TT5B era. I believe Yauch or Minton mentioned it.

Nothing materialized from that.

[JohnnyChavello]

I think they should do something like the Beatles Anthology - an inside story of the band coupled with the release of session recordings, unreleased music, and some "new" stuff. I'm hoping that's the plan for the memoir.

[Kid Presentable]

I think they should do something like the Beatles Anthology - an inside story of the band coupled with the release of session recordings, unreleased music, and some "new" stuff. I'm hoping that's the plan for the memoir.

Was watching the Beatles anthology with my girl tonight, and I couldn't agree with you more. I'd love to hear how they did hip-hop in the bubble machine days. Only near Yauch's passing did I ever see photos of them rhyming with Kate still in the band.

[Megalon X]

I still think if there's not going to be another release, they would have said so. I mean there's supposed to be another half to their last record. It's out there.

Also, MCA probably discussed this with the band. There may already be a plan in place people didn't know about.

[JohnnyChavello]

I still think if there's not going to be another release, they would have said so.

I don't know. They've always avoided talking much about what they're working on until it's done.

[Megalon X]

I don't know. They've always avoided talking much about what they're working on until it's done.

They're talking a lot, just about interior design and loud trucks. It's obvious they're not talking about music for a reason, even in a retrospective way. That leads me to believe that something might happen. If there was nothing else to come, they would have said so I think. Like what Run DMC did after Jam Master Jay died. They seem like they're being a bit strategic in what they say to the press in general.

[cj hood]

This is what my other thread was about. I think if it was one of the other Beasties that passes instead of Yauch the band would continue in some sort of capacity.
I obviously want more Beastie music but Yauch was the leader of their crew. We'll see stuff with the book but the vault will never be opened.

[Megalon X]

This is what my other thread was about. I think if it was one of the other Beasties that passes instead of Yauch the band would continue in some sort of capacity.
I obviously want more Beastie music but Yauch was the leader of their crew. We'll see stuff with the book but the vault will never be opened.

I'll believe it when I hear it from their mouths. Too many assumptions here. I don't expect them to continue into a new format for the group without Yauch, but nothing else is as clear I think.

[BeesTea]

Many of their early songs were misogynistic and written in their single college aged years. As enightened husbands and fathers, I believe they regretted what they spouted in the early days even if it was tongue in cheek and was created primarily for the shock value hence the apologies in their later albums. It's one thing when young adults write and perform ridiculously over the top offensive/funny songs. It would be very sad if they hadn't evolved in the continuing decades. Beyond the idea of middle-aged men singing about going to a prom in a blue tux with 6 dates, it's simply a different era. The early 80s were almost halyconic as we worried about the Cold War but not much else. AIDs was not a household word, we finally had a decent president, and inflation was under control.

Although as a female, I "should" be offended by the demeaning lyrics, I am not. I am about the same age as they are and remember my sorority sisters laughing uproariously when we first heard Girls and the rest of LTI. My sense of humor was juvenile at that time as well. Personally I think the lyrics that were too offensive to make the cut ie the Car Thief 1 and 2 demos or the extra FFYR stanza are so blatant that you just have to laugh. I still sing along in the car to these songs although I would be really upset if my son talked about women that way or my daughter allowed herself to be demeaned by a guy.

My son who is about the same age now as they were just before LTI but after Cooky Puss , created 3 cds of the BB demos/unreleased/alternate versions. In my mind, I call it Crap Factory Vol. 1-3 since that is what Adam Y called a lot of the stuff that they recorded that didn't officially make it out of their studio.

As long as it was more rappy and not primarily instrumental-only, country, or punk, I would buy whatever they put together. That being said, I also want to buy the Mike D toile design but as fabric, not wallpaper.

[JoLovesMCA]

With their vast discography, I'm set. HSCP2 was enough closure for me. I don't want a half-assed incomplete posthumous MCA Beastie Boy record.

The vault never opened when MCA was alive... I don't see it opening after he passed.

This.

[KENNY GUIDO]

they will go on. they have to. i mean, come on.....to think they may not continue as the beastie boys. there will be plenty of songs written about MCA. you can guarantee that. they will continue to record in his style, not straying from his course. Im sure there will be more tibet concerts as well. the beasties cant stop. a long vacation, yes. but they cant stop. should they find a replacement? NO. no one could ever, ever replace MCA.

[Megalon X]

Many of their early songs were misogynistic and written in their single college aged years. As enightened husbands and fathers, I believe they regretted what they spouted in the early days even if it was tongue in cheek and was created primarily for the shock value hence the apologies in their later albums. It's one thing when young adults write and perform ridiculously over the top offensive/funny songs. It would be very sad if they hadn't evolved in the continuing decades. Beyond the idea of middle-aged men singing about going to a prom in a blue tux with 6 dates, it's simply a different era. The early 80s were almost halyconic as we worried about the Cold War but not much else. AIDs was not a household word, we finally had a decent president, and inflation was under control.

Although as a female, I "should" be offended by the demeaning lyrics, I am not. I am about the same age as they are and remember my sorority sisters laughing uproariously when we first heard Girls and the rest of LTI. My sense of humor was juvenile at that time as well. Personally I think the lyrics that were too offensive to make the cut ie the Car Thief 1 and 2 demos or the extra FFYR stanza are so blatant that you just have to laugh. I still sing along in the car to these songs although I would be really upset if my son talked about women that way or my daughter allowed herself to be demeaned by a guy.

My son who is about the same age now as they were just before LTI but after Cooky Puss , created 3 cds of the BB demos/unreleased/alternate versions. In my mind, I call it Crap Factory Vol. 1-3 since that is what Adam Y called a lot of the stuff that they recorded that didn't officially make it out of their studio.

As long as it was more rappy and not primarily instrumental-only, country, or punk, I would buy whatever they put together. That being said, I also want to buy the Mike D toile design but as fabric, not wallpaper.

If a girl allows her self to be demeaned by a guy, isn't that her choice? It's just weird when I read all this feminist stuff from some people and there's a bomb in there like that that is totally not sex positive and just tells me it's actually just more conservative, I'm a parent stuff.

Frankly, if you take anything seriously in their albums, you are being slow. I understand the Beasties wanted to change their image, and that's fine, more power to them, but art is art. I have always found the idea of people suggesting that art can be dangerous to be a ridiculous stand point. You can't be demeaned by art. You are not the girls in the songs.

I also don't even know why you had to get into this. No one expects them to put the alternate version of Car Thief on a new album. The stuff I was referring to would probably be from the Hello Nasty to Hot Sauce Committee sessions.

[JohnnyChavello]

we finally had a decent president

Are you talking about Reagan or Carter?

[BeesTea]

Are you talking about Reagan or Carter?

President Reagan

[YoungRemy]

wow Kenny G's guarantee is a bold one.

It was a great run.

[Megalon X]

President Reagan

Because all the hip feminists are down with President Reagan. Are you a zero wave feminist? I'm just curious here. But really the guy that was totally down with fighting the patriarchy was Dick Nixon. You didn't go back far enough.

You're right though the 80's were a dark time for women's rights, but only because of the music about casual sex with rock stars. All those poor women choosing of their own free will to have sex with famous people they wanted to, how demeaning! The only answer of course is to slut shame them and promote your own imaginary sexual purity to our daughters. Things were definitely better in the 50's with chastity belts and male controlled courtship rituals. That's how the Gipper would have wanted it after all.

[Bernard Goetz]

The early 80s were almost halyconic as we worried about the Cold War but not much else. AIDs was not a household word, we finally had a decent president

AIDS was not a household word because that "decent president" would not utter the word.

[3stooges]

Ha, Reagan? He was nothing more than a mouthpiece. An actor reading a teleprompter.

[Megalon X]

But he made great movies with a monkey. That's his real legacy. XD

[KENNY GUIDO]

"ronald reagan? the actor?"

[Shuryno]

I would just want them to do what they feel like doing. If they think they have something worth releasing, I would be more than happy.

I support their decision, no matter what it is, because I know how professional they are and how they have always do thing their way.

But of course, I hope they do release new Beastie Boys LP. I also do hope they release new stuff in whatever they feel like doing from now on. Because they are honest artists and true geniuses , I don't expect them to go forward if they do not think it fits with their standards.

Keep keepin ' on!

[Rodie]

"ronald reagan? the actor?"

A well placed bttf reference gets me every time, well played (y)