New Champagne Jerry and King Ad-Rock track

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Check it out -- make sure you have winzip or winrar to extract
the goodness:

http://www.champagnejerry.com/files/Champagne%20Jerry%20-%20Yo%20Kev!.zip

[abbott]

i hope the day I make it to NYC I can get to a show.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

i hope the day I make it to NYC I can get to a show.

It would be hilariously fucked. If I still lived in NYC I would be all over
that pub to check out those one of a kind performances. CJ's new video is
creepy and funny as fuck. I was not into business ponies until now ;)

Check it out below:

http://www.champagnejerry.com/businesspony

[fonky pizza]

Thanks for sharing!
:D

[dirtydan11]

That was great! Did you catch the line from Paul Revere CJ said?

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Wow, Adrock smashed it!

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Wow, Adrock smashed it!

He most definitely did! It is excellent to hear the King Ad-Rock on the golden microphone.

[Brother McDuff]

sounds like adrock is using his SP1200 for drums again. noice. fun verse too.

jerry is just awful though. i can appreciate an amateur rap thats merely intended for some laughs, but dude just isn't funny. sounds like they had a good time making it though.

[YoungRemy]

good for the downtown alt cabaret performance art scene.

not good for beastie boys fans.




cj hood killed it, in my opinion.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

Any link that you don't have to download? My computer is broke and it won't download on my phone

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

Never mind

[tt5brevisited]

http://www.maxtannone.com/2013/09/yo-kev/

[MCScoobyT]

cj hood killed it, in my opinion.

rule 3049: never heckle a stand-up comic, unless you have the whole audience behind you...

[YoungRemy]

what's the rule on performance artist alter egos?

[laurie_hammy]

So good to hear the king on the mic again. So so glad he recorded this verse.

[Micodin]

Just listened with my tea and OG. Adrock smashed it.

Brunch.

[POMP]

Here's a link to the video:
http://youtu.be/PQL8oZL6koc

[Micodin]

Here's a link to the video:
http://youtu.be/PQL8oZL6koc

Thanks!

[Laver1969]

Here's a link to the video:
http://youtu.be/PQL8oZL6koc

So nice to hear Adam on the mic. Loved it!

[pshabi]

THE KING

[ClarenceAlabama]

For a comedy song, it's not as good as Justin Timberlake's Dick in a Box song, but Adrock's verse is nice.

[Micodin]

Champagne Jerry has a awful filthy mouth.

Adrock came through with a dope verse. Sounds like he's still on his Hot Sauce shit.

[Jay Stone]

Dope. I like Jurry, he's like Paul Barman without the dope lyrics.
Adrock came with the ill shit.

[pshabi]

Ok, I'm pretty well-versed in most sports, but I have to ask….what is "mousetrap?" I assumed it was some kind of baseball drill, but I can't find anything googling. Anybody know what Adrock is referring to?

[Micodin]

Ok, I'm pretty well-versed in most sports, but I have to ask….what is "mousetrap?" I assumed it was some kind of baseball drill, but I can't find anything googling. Anybody know what Adrock is referring to?

I have no idea but this (http://magisterrex.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/blogmousetrap1963.jpg) sprung into my mind for some reason.

[Bradleystp]

I just don't see the appeal of Champagne Jerry. I don't see anything special about anything I have heard.

It was nice to hear Adrock again, though.....

[cj hood]

I just don't see the appeal of Champagne Jerry. I don't see anything special about anything I have heard.

It was nice to hear Adrock again, though.....

Cosign...

[MCScoobyT]

boy was I wrong in thinking (hoping) that Minty Fresh would have, could had, should have blown up like Danger Mouse, once he found that first signature project with the right MC to do production for (n)

[Mr. Juice]

Thoughts:

+ Adrock, what an MC, eh?! Love that flow!

+ Beat is good.

+ I understand the "pussy" rhymes are in jest and are probably a commentary on today's MCs who freely throw around the word, but...I don't know? Being a post-LTI Beastie disciple, it makes me cringe slightly.

+ Yey for Cey.

+ Jerry kinda reminds me of a much more talented MC 3000 Ft Jesus.

+ It's a bittersweet video to watch. Good seeing the King mug for the camera again, but makes me miss the Beasties even more (sigh). Ob bla di, ob bla da.

+ Wonder if CJ Hood feels slighted that his initials were copped and put on a ball cap?

[Kid Presentable]

I particularly like that some of it is shot in the double speed slowed down style Hornblower employed famously. Very appropriate.

Champagne Jerry is not meant to be good. I'm all for anything that is fun for Adrock and not impossible to enjoy on some level.

+ I understand the "pussy" rhymes are in jest and are probably a commentary on today's MCs who freely throw around the word, but...I don't know? Being a post-LTI Beastie disciple, it makes me cringe slightly.

Oh man.

[tt5brevisited]

Fun watch and listen.
Needs more AdRock, or... less CJ.
Beat is fresh.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Champagne Jerry is not meant to be good.

This is a critical point for understanding Neal Medlyn's character. Champagne is over-confident, haunted by the past, wildly brags, sexist, fowl-mouthed, bisexual and is -- despite thinking he is the greatest rapper in the world probably started by being voted best rapper in his High School back -- definitely not the greatest rapper in the world. To a minor degree there there is a sadness to the character and it is supposed to be difficult to watch at some levels.

I say hats off to Neal as he works incredibly hard to make that character. The fact that some people think various things about Champagne Jerry suggests it stirs a reaction in others (what more would a performance artist want?). Some of the reactions I have felt have been: (1) intrigue; (2) disgust; (3) embarrassment; and (4) amusement.

Not so unlike watching this Kanye spoof video (http://youtu.be/Y3TTiHRrEBE), except Champagne Jerry is much more original.

I really like the new video and I am happy to see this being covered in Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ad-rock-plays-ball-with-champagne-jerry-20131208). Strangely at some levels the video demonstrates that Champagne can be simultaneously serious and tongue and cheek (that should not be hard to accept). I think at times his rapping is excellent, the beats are fresh and Ad-Rock's cameos make the whole thing awesome. The background performance artist and interesting NYC celebrity appearances add to the video for me.

For me Champagne Jerry is as serious as anything else is this world. Hope that makes sense.

[3stooges]

This is the first time I've heard a Champagne Jerry song, and I will start by saying, it is not good.

Now, you guys say, he's not meant to be good. Okay, so it is one of those "it's so bad, it's good" things. These things usually don't appeal to me, because often I just find it to be a cop out. A so-called "artistic" way to make an excuse for not being very good at what you do. Now if you do it in an undeniably clever and original way, I can appreciate it, but the majority of the time this is not the case, and this video/song is an example.

Adrock seems to be maintaining. It would be nice (as someone on this board said) to hear him work with some more legit artists, but to be honest, I don't expect anything. He's given us three decades of great music already. Anything else is gravy. Let him live out his years as a legend however he feels like, he's the fuckin man regardless.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

My hope is that Ad-Rock, Mike D, Mix Master Mike, Money Mark, Alfredo Ortiz, AWOL, Eric Bobo, Champagne Jerry and Max Tanone start a legit super group project and release an LP (possibly co-produced by Mario C). It could be simultaneously cheesy, uncomfortable, strange and lay down some of the best work in recent memory. The name of this project could be the "legit super group project". Why not? It could be funny and awesome as fuck.

[cj hood]

+ Wonder if CJ Hood feels slighted that his initials were copped and put on a ball cap?


nah, but best believe I'll sample Adrock saying 'yo cj.'

[Michelle*s_Farm]

nah, but best believe I'll sample Adrock saying 'yo cj.'

That is a great idea.

[Kid Presentable]

This is the first time I've heard a Champagne Jerry song, and I will start by saying, it is not good.

Now, you guys say, he's not meant to be good. Okay, so it is one of those "it's so bad, it's good" things. These things usually don't appeal to me, because often I just find it to be a cop out. A so-called "artistic" way to make an excuse for not being very good at what you do. Now if you do it in an undeniably clever and original way, I can appreciate it, but the majority of the time this is not the case, and this video/song is an example.

Adrock seems to be maintaining. It would be nice (as someone on this board said) to hear him work with some more legit artists, but to be honest, I don't expect anything. He's given us three decades of great music already. Anything else is gravy. Let him live out his years as a legend however he feels like, he's the fuckin man regardless.
I just meant dude is garbage but I fucks with the track.

[Brass Monk]

This is the first time I've heard a Champagne Jerry song, and I will start by saying, it is not good.

Now, you guys say, he's not meant to be good. Okay, so it is one of those "it's so bad, it's good" things. These things usually don't appeal to me, because often I just find it to be a cop out. A so-called "artistic" way to make an excuse for not being very good at what you do. Now if you do it in an undeniably clever and original way, I can appreciate it, but the majority of the time this is not the case, and this video/song is an example.

Adrock seems to be maintaining. It would be nice (as someone on this board said) to hear him work with some more legit artists, but to be honest, I don't expect anything. He's given us three decades of great music already. Anything else is gravy. Let him live out his years as a legend however he feels like, he's the fuckin man regardless.

I can get behind the "it's so bad, it's good" kinda things. But when I do, I still never give credit to the "artist". Tommy Wiseau's movie "The Room" falls into that category for me, but I don't credit Wiseau with any of the entertainment value "The Room" provides. I guess a musical comparison would be more apt but whatever. Jerry doesn't provide any entertainment value at all. Jerry also makes Tommy Wiseau look like a super-talented superstar. I also am now convinced that michelle*s farm is Champagne Jerry.

[3stooges]

I can get behind the "it's so bad, it's good" kinda things. But when I do, I still never give credit to the "artist". Tommy Wiseau's movie "The Room" falls into that category for me, but I don't credit Wiseau with any of the entertainment value "The Room" provides. I guess a musical comparison would be more apt but whatever. Jerry doesn't provide any entertainment value at all. Jerry also makes Tommy Wiseau look like a super-talented superstar. I also am now convinced that michelle*s farm is Champagne Jerry.

Lol at that last part, I must say the thought did cross my mind...

Yeah I had been thinking about what you are saying with the "camp" phenomenon comparison. I haven't seen The Room but I know the phenomenon. In San Francisco they have this thing called "Bad Movie Night", where they screen a bad movie and everyone laughs at how bad it is. Now I've never been to one of these. Who knows, maybe I'd enjoy it. But I've never really been able to appreciate that kind of experience, so I doubt it...

Something like Champagne Jerry is a different thing. If he's intentionally trying to be bad, it's cause he intends to be funny as a result of that. The camp thing is for things that are actually trying to be good in some way. That's the thing about camp, the more sincere the artist is, the more genuine camp it is.

A better comparison for Champagne Jerry would be someone like Andy Kaufmann or Sacha Baron Cohen. Not that he's anywhere as good as those guys. Those guys I find to be actually very clever and entertaining, and funny. Sacha Baron Cohen has kind of burned himself out, but the stuff he did as Ali G and Borat, some of that stuff I consider borderline genius...exposing people in these staged but supposedly (to them) real situations...

[roosta]

i really like this. nice to hear ad rock on the mic.

[abbott]

i am just now realizing Adrock had a boner. It was subliminal to me in that I did not even realized it happened until the next week.

The Pressure

[Micodin]

It's pretty easy math. The beat is nice, Champagne Jerry is horrible, and Adrock smashed it.

Basically it was nice to hear Adrock on the mic again. But, I don't foresee me listening to it again anytime soon.

[tt5brevisited]

It's pretty easy math. The beat is nice, Champagne Jerry is horrible, and Adrock smashed it.

Basically it was nice to hear Adrock on the mic again. But, I don't foresee me listening to it again anytime soon.

I was going to edit it down to Adrock's part but... he mentions CJ too often.
:D

[pshabi]

It's pretty easy math. The beat is nice, Champagne Jerry is horrible, and Adrock smashed it.

Basically it was nice to hear Adrock on the mic again. But, I don't foresee me listening to it again anytime soon.

I've listened to it plenty and I'm enjoying it. Adam did smash for sure, but the rest is slightly better than tolerable for me. If it gets adrock making music, I say do an album.

[cj hood]

An old school mc/crew that are still active needs to recruit Adrock for a spot (ie LL, Qtip, etc).......

[Extra Cheese]

i wonder if he ever misses his previous bboy gig when he joins this dude on tracks.

[Brass Monk]

Something like Champagne Jerry is a different thing. If he's intentionally trying to be bad, it's cause he intends to be funny as a result of that. The camp thing is for things that are actually trying to be good in some way. That's the thing about camp, the more sincere the artist is, the more genuine camp it is.



Yes exactly, you articulated my point much better than I did. "Camp" is the word. Yet another potentially redeeming characteristic that Jerry lacks.

[YoungRemy]

"Jerry" is a character.

a persona.


Neal Medlyn the performer is the one that possesses or lacks characteristics.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

"Jerry" is a character.

a persona.


Neal Medlyn the performer is the one that possesses or lacks characteristics.

An important distinction between the persona and the performer. This is a good interview with Medlyn (http://bombsite.com/issues/1000/articles/7409)
Not sure Neal is about humor entirely -- if he was, his performances would
probably be more funny. Or perhaps it depends on one's sense of humor. I found "Tampa Realness" hilarious
and creepy at the same time. His "land of make believe" show back in 2006 was strangely funny.

[Brass Monk]

An important distinction between the persona and the performer.

Why is that important? Especially in regards to Jerry/Neal?
It's kinda funny that Jerry's supporters need to retreat to some sort of highly nuanced, subjective argument to try to make the case that he doesn't completely suck.
In hip hop it's either ill or it isn't. Every single track I've heard of Jerry's is just garbage (and I've heard multiple). I really tried to like him based on Adrock's affiliation with him, but that only goes so far.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Why is that important? Especially in regards to Jerry/Neal?
It's kinda funny that Jerry's supporters need to retreat to some sort of highly nuanced, subjective argument to try to make the case that he doesn't completely suck.
In hip hop it's either ill or it isn't. Every single track I've heard of Jerry's is just garbage (and I've heard multiple). I really tried to like him based on Adrock's affiliation with him, but that only goes so far.

The person versus character distinction is interesting to me. MCA was a character (less so than Hornblower) while Adam Yauch was the person or artist behind them. I would not get threatened by the arguments of supporters of CJ, it is subjective and probably mostly in jest. I mean how many of Jerry's supporters are out there really? Have you even checked the number of listens and comments in soundcloud. Last I checked CJ is quite a niche interest among those who like Neal's performance art and perhaps quirky hip hop.

[Brass Monk]

The person versus character distinction is interesting to me. MCA was a character (less so than Hornblower) while Adam Yauch was the person or artist behind them. I would not get threatened by the arguments of supporters of CJ, it is subjective and probably mostly in jest. I mean how many of Jerry's supporters are out there really? Have you even checked the number of listens and comments in soundcloud. Last I checked CJ is quite a niche interest among those who like Neal's performance art and perhaps quirky hip hop.

You just sort of compared Jerry with Yauch?!?!? Yuck!!!!!!!
Good point about Jerry's supporters though.....

[Michelle*s_Farm]

You just sort of compared Jerry with Yauch?!?!? Yuck!!!!!!!


That is a really funny quote -- thanks for making me laugh out loud today.
Jerry may be more akin to Hornblower (if Hornblower rapped). I do not know Neal personally but I imagine he is a really sweet and interesting guy.

[Micodin]

I do not know Neal personally but I imagine he is a really sweet and interesting guy.

Ha. This is getting awkward.

[YoungRemy]

Champagne Jerry is not hip hop nor is he for hip hop connoisseurs.