wanna feel old?

[TurdBerglar]

teens react to nirvana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGPbHUZQ-VE

[Miho]

Old people react to dubstep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgII2gDY-Rw

[TurdBerglar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3803606097&feature=iv&list=PLNKWJqxJf9ryz5bNztK0q6HWubH4y8-bI&src_vid=DGPbHUZQ-VE&v=huxyo8IhrQc

it's funny that the kids that just don't get it or don't know the band are the most vapid and flippant. nothing has changed.

[TurdBerglar]

Old people react to dubstep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgII2gDY-Rw

they're not all the impressed it seems. there's just kinda like... so what. what's the point of this shit?

[Bob]

i was all prepared to be depressed but i dunno, it was kinda satisfying that they mostly seemed to like it

that one "because young people always go through the same shit!" girl might actually be smarter than me

[checkyourprez]

kids is nerds yo

[TurdBerglar]

i was all prepared to be depressed but i dunno, it was kinda satisfying that they mostly seemed to like it

that one "because young people always go through the same shit!" girl might actually be smarter than me

yeah I was expecting them to grimace once they heard it. it was just how some of them didn't really have a clue about who the band was is what got me. I remember me and all the kids I hung out with in high school were really into music and none of these kids really seemed to be to the same extant. I remember us being all very familiar with the bands of the 70's and 80's ESPECAILLY the ones that were as big and well known as nirvana.

I was hanging out with someone a few years younger than me. the same age as my brother. he had no clue who blur or oasis were. he wasn't very familiar with rock because it just wasn't really around much for him. he was into weird emo rock/metal and dubstep. he didn't like nirvana but liked motley crue... I was just looking at him. how the fuck are we friends! what a drastic difference a few years can make. sometimes there's huge turns between people and what they think and what they're into that grew up just a few years apart.

I wonder what causes those drastic changes. another buddy of mine is just a few years older than me and it's the same thing. he's all into 80's music. had these guys just been a year or two close to me in age I think we'd all be into the same things.

it went from hair metal to grunge over night for me at that age when you start to notice music. I wonder what that change was and when it happened from that 90's music to now. I have no clue what or when it happen.

[Echewta]

I like the guy who said there needs to be more Nirvana type music instead of all the shit that is playing now. I'd buy him some taco bell. Thats about it though.

[TurdBerglar]

Tom Morello is about to be 50....

[Dorothy Wood]

That didn't make me feel old, it made me feel cool. Kids today just look up how to be cool on the internet. Which is lame.

[Waus]

Kids today just look up how to be cool on the internet. Which is lame.

First google result for search "how to be cool" - "TOO LATE. :cool:"

[Guy Incognito]

long story short, we have a system at work that we have to reboot and our team just call it "kicking it". so i sent an email asking if i should reboot it, with the title "Can I Kick It?".

I then went into a meeting and came out to emails debating what that song was and the rest of the team (all a couple of years younger than me) decided it was Rock DJ by Robbie Williams (which basically steals that line). Naturally i went effing mental and sent a link to the tribe. I was then told that robbie williams song was much more memorable. i was told this about 8 hours ago and am still upset.

[Bob]

First google result for search "how to be cool" - "TOO LATE. :cool:"

if you google "gullible" nothing shows up...

[checkyourprez]

THAT IS A LIE

[ms.peachy]

long story short, we have a system at work that we have to reboot and our team just call it "kicking it". so i sent an email asking if i should reboot it, with the title "Can I Kick It?".

I then went into a meeting and came out to emails debating what that song was and the rest of the team (all a couple of years younger than me) decided it was Rock DJ by Robbie Williams (which basically steals that line). Naturally i went effing mental and sent a link to the tribe. I was then told that robbie williams song was much more memorable. i was told this about 8 hours ago and am still upset.

See, that would definitely have me committing a serious act of violence in the workplace.

Robbie Williams. FFS.

[Guy Incognito]

See, that would definitely have me committing a serious act of violence in the workplace.

Robbie Williams. FFS.

I've been close to properly losing it over this issue. its just depressing that some commercial piece of well marketed crap can be considered more memorable than the actual thing it ripped off.

To be fair, one lad hadnt heard of it at all and checked it out and said it was..

crap.

i dont know, one half of me thinks well these buggers are welcome to the shit stuff but the other half thinks that i am being too elitist. i was just angry that something was considered more memorable than something they hadnt heard.

Oh, and i found out that Can I kick it samples Superted (very silly british 80's cartoon) which i didnt realise, so its not all bad.

[mikizee]

Oh, and i found out that Can I kick it samples Superted (very silly british 80's cartoon) which i didnt realise, so its not all bad.

Ohhhh Tex /Bones

[Yetra Flam]

That skeleton was ON FIRE

[Guy Incognito]

Ohhhh Tex /Bones

yeah its the "err you can" bit, which was said by Spotty (whose voice was Jon Pertwee who played Doctor Who for a bit)

[TurdBerglar]

what the fuck are you guys talking about

[Guy Incognito]

what the fuck are you guys talking about

Song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ubKHzujy8&feature=kp)

Details of samples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_I_Kick_It%3F)

the thing we are talking about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperTed)

[TurdBerglar]

that's funny because all I hear is walk on the wild side....

[Guy Incognito]

that's funny because all I hear is walk on the wild side....

and thats exactly the kind of attitude that led to ATCQ getting fuck all royalties.

[TurdBerglar]

does fuck all mean a lot? or does it mean nothing? we don't use that phrase here.


what I think you're talking about is Robbie Williams sampled the tribe song and some little shit associates the Robbie Williams song with that can I kick it bit sample rather than the tribe song. and your pissed because how dare someone prefer Robbie Williams over tribe. what im saying is im looking at you the same way you're looking at that little shit because im more familiar with lou reed and hold in much higher regard than tribe. it's just kinda ironic and funny.

[ms.peachy]

I don't think so turd - people who know the ATCQ song would totally recognize that that bassline is sampled from "Walk on the Wild Side", whereas the people who attributed the 'can I kick it' line to Robbie Williams are largely ignorant of both the ATCQ and the Lou Reed songs. That's the part that's really annoying: that people will lap up the mainstream pop pablum puke, but have no clue about the work of actual artists.

[Guy Incognito]

does fuck all mean a lot? or does it mean nothing? we don't use that phrase here.


what I think you're talking about is Robbie Williams sampled the tribe song and some little shit associates the Robbie Williams song with that can I kick it bit sample rather than the tribe song. and your pissed because how dare someone prefer Robbie Williams over tribe. what im saying is im looking at you the same way you're looking at that little shit because im more familiar with lou reed and hold in much higher regard than tribe. it's just kinda ironic and funny.

fuck all means nothing

i was really just upset that atcq didnt appear to be recognised as a popular track. and i was talking about the words which were definitely not written by lou reed. hip hop tracks have samples in, lots of them. so not sure its a similar comparison to make.
besides, williams just used the line once and in the actual track its said a lot as a chorus type thing.

[Guy Incognito]

I don't think so turd - people who know the ATCQ song would totally recognize that that bassline is sampled from "Walk on the Wild Side", whereas the people who attributed the 'can I kick it' line to Robbie Williams are largely ignorant of both the ATCQ and the Lou Reed songs. That's the part that's really annoying: that people will lap up the mainstream pop pablum puke, but have no clue about the work of actual artists.

yeah, its the x factor culture eating into people.

and thats another thing, there should be some sort of hip hop version of the x factor and that might help peoples appreciation of the artform, although it would probably turn out to be some watered down naff competition

[TurdBerglar]

I don't think so turd - people who know the ATCQ song would totally recognize that that bassline is sampled from "Walk on the Wild Side", whereas the people who attributed the 'can I kick it' line to Robbie Williams are largely ignorant of both the ATCQ and the Lou Reed songs. That's the part that's really annoying: that people will lap up the mainstream pop pablum puke, but have no clue about the work of actual artists.

yeah and what im saying is that the people that are into the scene that lou reed and the velvet underground are apart of are looking at the scene that tribe is apart off and looking are the tribe scene the same way you're looking at the Robbie Williams scene. im not knocking tribe as that era is really the only era that I like rap from. im just saying that there's just as many people looking at tribe and discrediting their art form the same way you're looking at Robbie Williams and discrediting his art form for pretty much the same reason as ripping someone off and being disposable pop. and im sure there's a bunch of people out there beforehand that were looking at velvet underground and lou reed the same way as disposable pop. it's just funny to me.

[TurdBerglar]

fuck all means nothing

i was really just upset that atcq didnt appear to be recognised as a popular track. and i was talking about the words which were definitely not written by lou reed. hip hop tracks have samples in, lots of them. so not sure its a similar comparison to make.
besides, williams just used the line once and in the actual track its said a lot as a chorus type thing.

how is using samples and using someone else's lyrics any different? to me lyrics are totally secondary. the music is the important part that conveys the actual mood, emotion and atmosphere of the song(which is lacking in rap and hip hop comparatively). it's also a lot more difficult and impressive to me. no has to set down time and dedication to learn how to talk but everyone has to learn how to play a fucking instrument within a song in time with other people. I can be totally infatuated with a song for YEARS and have no idea what the song is actually about because of the music is so powerful to me. then one day i'll be all like... hey I wonder what this song is about! and I'll go look up the lyrics as the song is playing and come to realize that the lyrics are just as mind blowing as the music and just adds to the magnitude of that particular song. or realize that the lyrics are kinda shit but it doesn't take away from the song for me because the music is still there.

[Guy Incognito]

I'm not saying that robbie williams is discrediting atcq, he's welcome to take references from anywhere, whats upset me is there appeared to be no regard for the original and that there was refusal to try listening to the original from people who i work with. just made me sad about popular culture really

Hip hop has samples and it would be foolish not to recognize influences and i have sought out records after hearing samples in other tracks.

Also, the sampler is an instrument in its own right and takes time and skill to master

[TurdBerglar]

I know! Im saying the same thing you're saying! except im from the lou reed stand point rather than tribe stand point! and there's probably somebody out there looking at me all like.... well lou reed rip off this other person for walk on the wild side and looking at both of us like we're the idiots.

It's funny that you're upset over something not being recognized as being the original and superior when the original and superior is heavily based on samples...

how you feel about that shithead at work is how I feel about most of the hip hop heads I have ever met because they're just like that fellow at your job not realizing or even caring about the original.

im just all like.... haha! a hip hop head is all pissy because his beloved "original" is being discredited by some music moron when that happens to me all the time with other hip hop heads discrediting the originals that I love.

im not saying YOU'RE discrediting anything it just funny seeing a hip hop head getting mad over this particular type of thing considering how sample based hip hop is created and how a lot of its fans are totally oblivious and uninterested to any earlier musical forms.

[Guy Incognito]

.

robbie williams has nowt to do with velvet underground. At no point have i cliamed that Can i kick it was totally original, i just merely stated it was the originator of that phrase and that is a shame some people havent heard the original use of it. when i was trying to explain about can i kick it i even referenced walk on the wild side. hip hop is good for this sort of thing as it can introduce new music to people. And at the same time, its good that robbie williams used it, just sad some people dont have the urge to see the influences out. I had already heard of velvet underground before that but there's definitely some samples that turned me onto unheard stuff.

i think we may be going round circles now though

[TurdBerglar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E


I don't know if these kids are just stupid or if tapes and walkmans are really that quirky.

[Waus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E


I don't know if these kids are just stupid or if tapes and walkmans are really that quirky.

That one little girl is pretty sharp. She'll go far in the booming deprecated technology industry.