Jobs

[Dorothy Wood]

Why is it so hard to find them? I'm not a dumb person, but I find it very hard to navigate the job market. I also find it weird that job ads are often written by idiots.

I have a job, I'm just looking around at different areas because I might try to buy a house in the next couple years. I found one company that seemed neat and is in a neighborhood I want to live in, but I looked up the owner and his facebook came up, he posts anti-obamacare stuff, complains about paying taxes, complains about food stamps, etc. Yeah, so never mind that place.

Society sucks. When did so many dumb people get to be in charge? I hate it. I'm gonna move to the woods and start my own village for nice people only.

Argh, I wish I could stop complaining about this shit. I think I just have to let go of my fear of debt and go back to school after all. I have developed skills on my own, but I don't have any official documentation or certificates because I've learned on the job, so I feel like I get passed over a lot when I apply for jobs I am sure I would be great at...it's like "oh, she graduated 12 years ago and hasn't had any further training, next". I wish there were more options...training programs that didn't read like scams, training programs for stuff other than sales, tangible goals....*sigh*

[kll]

So basically you're saying you won't work for a righty. Fair enough, but you're probably going to have to focus on those industries where you know only libs work. Oh yeah. And poor neighborhoods. Once you own a home, I guarantee you will be more concerned about the taxes you pay as compared to now.

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah, because I NEVER pay taxes now. :rolleyes:

Complaining about healthcare and food stamps is short sighted. I'm actually pretty conservative money-wise. I happen to think that there needs to be a basic level of resources for all people in a functional society. Allowing people to languish in poverty is bad for the whole society, it impedes progress, it impedes innovation. How exactly is keeping people dumb, poor, and hungry going to somehow force them to turn it around and suddenly become successful?

It's a fantasy. I believe in hard work and I am a hard worker. I have supported myself since I was 19. I have had no financial support from outside sources. I live a decent life that I built from nothing. Yet, I want to care for my fellow man, social services are needed in this country, I don't mind contributing.

Plus, I'm not looking at wealthy neighborhoods. It doesn't even work like that here. My neighbors are students and artists, the guy next door lives alone in a house that's probably worth a half mil. There are working class families, homeless people, gang bangers...all within a few blocks of each other. This is the real world. My eyes are open and I don't want to work for short sighted people, "lib" or "righty".

[Documad]

There are a lot of dumb people from every political viewpoint. But I have a family member who parrots Fox News and he bugs the crap out of me. I feel bad for the people who work for him because I'll bet they have to put up with him spouting his viewpoints without regard to their situations. And he's such a hypocrite. He bitches about welfare but he wasn't going to pay his mom's nursing home bill when she ran out of money. It's amazing how many people with money are happy to see the county or feds pay to care for their beloved elderly relatives and they don't see that as welfare. :roll eyes:

I'm happy that I haven't had to look for a job in a long time. I don't know how it all works online now--where you have to try and explain your qualifications in response to forms you fill out. I suppose no one takes a resume and cover letter now? I've heard that hardly any places write a rejection letter even after interviews--you just never hear from them?

[TurdBerglar]

what about the people that have lived for years leaching off welfare for generations? they have it good enough(not necessarily great) that they don't even try to make things better for themselves because they don't need to. they just keep popping out kids that they can't afford with multiple partners, not getting educated, or work and just keep perpetuating the cycle because it's so easy to just keep doing it over and over again because they don't have to pay for anything. creating a whole welfare culture and class of people that rely on the support of everyone else while they fuck shit up. Massachusetts caters to these people for some reason(I don't know what it's like elsewhere) and they're destroying almost all the urban areas around here. everyone is getting really agitated because all these lowlifes have been moving in for the past thirties years to take advantage of the system. all the decent people that have the means to get the fuck out are doing so. it's creating a very weird unintentionally(?) segregated situation. allowing the stupid and poor to stay stupid and poor because they don't have to work for anything while the smart and educated flee. isn't a city suppose to be a composed of many types of people? isn't that what makes a city work?

I fully believe in a safety net for folks but it's becoming a way of life simply because it's so easily available. It needs to be much more restrictive and better managed.

[Dorothy Wood]

I would say that systematic racism and segregation has divided society and purposely oppressed minorities. It wasn't that long ago that we had internment camps on U.S. soil. So I don't blame people for trying to survive.

Welfare moochers don't use up as many resources as the media would have you believe anyway. And society made them that way on purpose, to profit from misery. Consumerism and materialism is marketed to the poor. Investors make money from the companies that peddle cheap unhealthy snacks in poor communities. Look up the stock values of the most popular garbage people eat. The rich get rich off of duping the public and then pretending it's the public's fault. I think it sucks.

[TurdBerglar]

Welfare moochers don't use up as many resources as the media would have you believe anyway. And society made them that way on purpose, to profit from misery. Consumerism and materialism is marketed to the poor. Investors make money from the companies that peddle cheap unhealthy snacks in poor communities. Look up the stock values of the most popular garbage people eat. The rich get rich off of duping the public and then pretending it's the public's fault. I think it sucks.


the media has nothing to do with this. this I what i see with my own eyes. I've grown up around it and lived within in it. I think the current welfare system is all part of that system of using people just the same. it's use to control and manipulate people to keep them poor and stupid by allowing them to stay poor and stupid. whether that's intentional or not is another story.

[Dorothy Wood]

Fair enough.

I think the welfare system is messed up. But I don't think that living off the government is an easy life style. it gets abused, but that isn't the problem, it's a symptom of the problem.

[TurdBerglar]

and the problem most of the time is people just not doing the right thing whether it's because they choose to or whether it's because they just don't know what the right thing is. it shouldn't be the responsibility of everyone else who are already struggling busting their asses for themselves and their families to CONTINUALLY support people like that. if you don't hold people accountable they're just gonna keep doing whatever is easiest.

I don't know what it's like where you are but around here there's this whole welfare/hoodrat culture that's fucking shit up real bad. nobody want's to live here anymore. they seem to feel their way of life is totally legitimate and nothing is wrong with it. having a shit ton of kids they can't afford with multiple partners, the father not sticking around, not working or getting educated(and I mean high school) dealing drugs and so on. they're really hostile towards people that aren't like them. these people are being catered to, so more and more keep moving in. it has nothing to do with race because this city has always been very diverse and didn't always have this problem. it has everything to do with how classy people are. for some reason it's being turned into a racial issue so everyone is dodging the real issues to avoid racism so nothing is getting fixed and these people keep suffering within their own lifestyle because they just don't seem to know any better and their not being held accountable for it.


welfare and government help should be use to help people get back on their feet so they can support themselves. not to support a lifestyle that persists for generations.

[Dorothy Wood]

Honestly I think the war on drugs created the situation you're talking about.

Between my apartment and my best friend's new house 10 miles away, there are extremely dangerous and impoverished communities. I ride my bike around them and not through, but I've driven through. It's really sad, people just sitting around, drunk, dealing, hooking.... There is high unemployment in certain areas and many people depend on the government. There aren't too many ways out of it, that's why it persists generation after generation.

I think in this society, there is too much focus on achievement and leadership. The majority of people get left behind in life with no hope of improvement. A lot of people are just straight up not smart enough to compete in the world. And a whole lot of not-smart people are able to compete because they had a leg up from money or luck. It's just not a system that works. When I did a student teaching experience in inner city Cincinnati, the teachers were burnt the fuck out. The kids didn't give a fuck either. Because the system sucks. Who cares about stupid geography lessons when you're hungry? Or you have to go home to a shitty house with shitty people who don't respect school anyway and won't help you with your homework? why stay in school?

Sex, drugs, alcohol, nicotine, sugar, salt, fat...all that stuff is abused by poor people because it's a form of escape, relief. And it's peddled to them. It's a cycle of shit.

Anyway, my mom's parents never accepted government assistance, even though they qualified. They were too proud, they just worked more. And they owned a home and cars, had 5 kids. Still very poor. You can't even pull that off now, because wages haven't followed inflation. And my grandpa died young because of alcoholism and smoking. My mom got out of poverty, but because she got pregnant with me (she was told she could never have kids because of a childhood injury), her life changed, and my dad was a dick. So she put up with it awhile until she didn't and then we were poor again. She didn't accept government assistance even though she qualified. She just worked more, and ate ramen noodles every day and fed me and pretended everything was fine. What a miserable existence.

So I don't know what a better solution would've been. I think I might've had a better life and my mom would've had less stress if she had swallowed her pride and taken government assistance. But who knows? How does one family languish in poverty, and another fight through it to success? I don't know.

Why didn't I just move in with my mom when I had financial trouble after college instead of working 7 days a week at two jobs? Pride I guess, but why? I could've gotten food stamps and had one job instead of two, but I didn't. All the hard work is supposed to pay off, but I see privileged dumb asses succeeding everywhere. The game is rigged, so why not get the free stuff while you can? I don't blame people anymore like I used to....

I think when right wing people complain about social services, they are really just saying they wish that people who can't compete in life would die. They think "survival of the fittest", even though they themselves are not the fittest, just alive because of different circumstances.

There are so many people out there just deluding themselves into thinking they are living life the right way. But in fact no one really knows. Bunch a jerks, if you ask me.

[TurdBerglar]

I just don't think it's a one way street. you can't blame society solely for making people shitty. I think most of the time people are just fucking shitty because they're assholes and come a from a long line of assholes and just don't know any better because their family is a horrible role model that refuses to break the cycle. just like how some people succeed because they've come from a long line of a self imposed culture of success brought on by doing the right thing(they had a leg up), there's people that are shit because they've come from a long line of a self imposed culture of shit(they had a leg down?). and I find that the culture of shit is being pandered to and accepted more and more allowing it to flourish because it makes people dependent and controllable and easily manipulated.

and I not some outsider looking in and making judgments. I grew up within this type of shit.

[Dorothy Wood]

Yeah I'm not really disagreeing with you, just saying that there are shitty people at all socioeconomic levels. And I would say that the shitty people on the low end do less damage than the shitty people with money.

I'm pretty bitter about how I get treated by assholes with money, if you couldn't tell, haha. Smart and nice rich people treat me with respect though. I wish there were more people like that.