To all who wonder is the Beastie Boys will continue as the Beastie Boys

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

http://m.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/beastie-boys-rejected-schwarzenegger-request-sabotage-article-1.1812007

[Brass Monk]

Obviously they do license their music to be used in movies and tv shows.
Perhaps the difference with the Arnold movie is that they probably would have used the song heavily in the advertisements.
I'm not totally buying the idea that the BBoys wouldn't allow the song's use due to poor quality of that movie though. The Star Trek remake was awful and the song got used

[Micodin]

Back on topic. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. In the past two years the only project that's been announced is the book. That will most likely be the final chapter (no pun intended).

As a fan, I feel it's the right and only decision. No holograms of Yauch, no tribute bands with Tip, Biz or any other rapper filling in. Calling it a day and not cheapening their band and brand was the way to go.

[JoLovesMCA]

Back on topic. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. In the past two years the only project that's been announced is the book. That will most likely be the final chapter (no pun intended).

As a fan, I feel it's the right and only decision. No holograms of Yauch, no tribute bands with Tip, Biz or any other rapper filling in. Calling it a day and not cheapening their band and brand was the way to go.

I am so happy with their decision. I am so happy for closure. I am still sad too, :(...... but yes it was the right thing to do. I think by now we would have had some clue if they were going on as the Beasties Boys, but perhaps they figured that we would know there was no way they'd do it.

Anyway, I am thankful for what they gave us, for what they left for us and looking forward to supporting Horovitz and Diamond in their solo efforts.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

Back on topic. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. In the past two years the only project that's been announced is the book. That will most likely be the final chapter (no pun intended).

As a fan, I feel it's the right and only decision. No holograms of Yauch, no tribute bands with Tip, Biz or any other rapper filling in. Calling it a day and not cheapening their band and brand was the way to go.

I 100% agree with all of this. I've always been in they are done and Beastie Boys will never happen again camp. I'm sad about this, as we all are, but one of the things I love about this group is their togetherness and that they were never in it for the money or fame.

I think the book is the final chapter, I mean I could see a doc at some point and maybe some music being released that hasn't yet, but not counting on those.

[The Ron]

This isn't a surprise...it's kind of hard to make new music as the "Beastie Boys" without one of the members. It would still be cool if they opened the vault (assuming they have one) with unreleased shit someday.

[Micodin]

Anyway, I am thankful for what they gave us, for what they left for us and looking forward to supporting Horovitz and Diamond in their solo efforts.

Indeed!

I think the book is the final chapter, I mean I could see a doc at some point and maybe some music being released that hasn't yet, but not counting on those.

A proper documentary by Spike would be nice.

[Brass Monk]

Back on topic.

Did that article not mention the Arnold movie and sabotage?
Maybe I clicked on the wrong link....

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

Did that article not mention the Arnold movie and sabotage?
Maybe I clicked on the wrong link....

It did amongst other things.

[Micodin]

Did that article not mention the Arnold movie and sabotage?
Maybe I clicked on the wrong link....

Chill.

The thread is called "To all who wonder is the Beastie Boys will continue as the Beastie Boys"

Do the math.

[MCScoobyT]

just glad to know their decision about the future without MCA

Beastie Boys will always be the best group of my generation.

[Kid Presentable]

Back on topic. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. In the past two years the only project that's been announced is the book. That will most likely be the final chapter (no pun intended).

As a fan, I feel it's the right and only decision. No holograms of Yauch, no tribute bands with Tip, Biz or any other rapper filling in. Calling it a day and not cheapening their band and brand was the way to go.

(y)

[pm0ney]

I think we all knew this was coming, but hearing it said and the realization that it's over... It's sad. We couldn't have asked for a better run, they were popular for longer than any rap group ever, it's just sad.

[YoungRemy]

Obviously they do license their music to be used in movies and tv shows.
Perhaps the difference with the Arnold movie is that they probably would have used the song heavily in the advertisements.
I'm not totally buying the idea that the BBoys wouldn't allow the song's use due to poor quality of that movie though. The Star Trek remake was awful and the song got used

they endorse the Star Trek universe and they said on record that they thought it was cool that in the future alternate universe of Star Trek or whatever, that they were listening to Sabotage.

it's funny because when I saw the awful posters for that awful title of an awful film, i imagined exactly that the producers would BEG the band to use the song heavily for promotion...

but yeah, looking forward to the memoir and any multimedia presentation or format it comes in.

[Brass Monk]

they endorse the Star Trek universe and they said on record that they thought it was cool that in the future alternate universe of Star Trek or whatever, that they were listening to Sabotage.

it's funny because when I saw the awful posters for that awful title of an awful film, i imagined exactly that the producers would BEG the band to use the song heavily for promotion...



The screening process they seem to use to decide whether to allow their songs to be used intrigues me. The new Conan the Barbarian movie, "Conan the Legend" has potential, maybe they'll let Arnold use something for that, lol.

[Headgotchecked]

I think we all knew this was coming, but hearing it said and the realization that it's over... It's sad. We couldn't have asked for a better run, they were popular for longer than any rap group ever, it's just sad.

Yeah, that sums it up for me. Although, I'd looooooooove for the 2 to get back together under a different moniker. Who cares if it doesn't amount to the same level of awesome, I'd still like to see them try it.

AdRock, Mike D, as long as I'm around you will have at least one rabid fan. And MCA still informs my life as if he was still with us. I keep vacillating between feeling crushed, and gratitude for getting what they gave us. I think that's the only logical feeling to have.

[3stooges]

I don't know. Just because a band says they'll never get back together....doesn't mean it will never happen.

It hasn't been very long since MCA passed. But some more years down the line, Mike D and Adrock get that itch again....I think they might do something. Time changes things, how people feel about things changes over time. They might not call it "Beastie Boys" but I bet they do some of the songs. Look at some other examples. It's not like it's never happened before. Just don't be waiting, and expecting. Cause it's not that type of thing.

[abbott]

enjoyed the article

feels like Im getting old

[YoungRemy]

The screening process they seem to use to decide whether to allow their songs to be used intrigues me. The new Conan the Barbarian movie, "Conan the Legend" has potential, maybe they'll let Arnold use something for that, lol.

no, they won't, because they don't respect his recent "work"

they made that clear.

just like they made clear that they celebrate the world of Star Trek which is the main reason for giving them the song, as explained above.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I don't know. Just because a band says they'll never get back together....doesn't mean it will never happen.


My hope is that they have Yauch's DNA in storage and once the technology is right they will bring him back for Beastie Boys v2.0.

[WesleyOHSnaps!]

From what I've heard is that J.J. Abrams is a big Beastie Boys fan and we know that they love Star Trek so that would make sense to why the two movies got to use Beastie tracks.

[JoLovesMCA]

I don't know. Just because a band says they'll never get back together....doesn't mean it will never happen.

It hasn't been very long since MCA passed. But some more years down the line, Mike D and Adrock get that itch again....I think they might do something. Time changes things, how people feel about things changes over time. They might not call it "Beastie Boys" but I bet they do some of the songs. Look at some other examples. It's not like it's never happened before. Just don't be waiting, and expecting. Cause it's not that type of thing.

Well Mike D states that he and Adrock both promised MCA that they would not make music without him. Unless they would break their promise to him, the band is over.

[JohnnyChavello]

Well Mike D states that he and Adrock both promised MCA that they would not make music without him. Unless they would break their promise to him, the band is over.

Yeah, I thought I read that somewhere too, but it's not in the Daily News article. Is it from another article about Mike's testimony or something else?

[JoLovesMCA]

Yeah, I thought I read that somewhere too, but it's not in the Daily News article. Is it from another article about Mike's testimony or something else?

Yeah sure NME released additional information today. I think the other articles just left out a few important KEY parts that makes all the difference imo.

http://www.nme.com/news/beastie-boys--2/77660

So he actually says they did have a band discussion about this before Yauch passed away.

[ClarenceAlabama]

Well Mike D states that he and Adrock both promised MCA that they would not make music without him. Unless they would break their promise to him, the band is over.

I wonder if he meant that they won't make BEASTIE BOYS music without him. That would make sense. Those 3 are the Beastie Boys and that's their legacy. The Beastie Boys as a band should be over.... BUT....

I hope Mike didn't mean that him and Adrock won't make music together in the future. I would love to hear Adrock & Mike D. guest on another rap track together like they did with De La Soul.

[pm0ney]

I would never, ever be arrogant enough to pretend I knew what the boys talked about behind closed doors, but I will say it seems...odd...that Mike and Adrock would make a promise that they'd never make new music again. Why would MCA care whether or not they make new music? It seems far more selfish than he ever came off when he was alive. It also runs contrary to what Mike said about Yauch wanting them to "pursue whatever weird ideas we come up with" in an interview a year or so ago. Please don't kill the messenger but this *sounds* like lawyer talk to help get the result they need in this lawsuit.

[JoLovesMCA]

I wonder if he meant that they won't make BEASTIE BOYS music without him. That would make sense. Those 3 are the Beastie Boys and that's their legacy. The Beastie Boys as a band should be over.... BUT....

I hope Mike didn't mean that him and Adrock won't make music together in the future. I would love to hear Adrock & Mike D. guest on another rap track together like they did with De La Soul.

I hope they do something, I mean something that inspires them. I know that is what it will take anyway. They won’t just do it for the sake of doing it. They have already collaborated on a few things, but I’m not sure if they will take it further than that. I can't imagine them not doing a lil something together if the right project comes along you know.

I would never, ever be arrogant enough to pretend I knew what the boys talked about behind closed doors, but I will say it seems...odd...that Mike and Adrock would make a promise that they'd never make new music again. Why would MCA care whether or not they make new music? It seems far more selfish than he ever came off when he was alive. It also runs contrary to what Mike said about Yauch wanting them to "pursue whatever weird ideas we come up with" in an interview a year or so ago. Please don't kill the messenger but this *sounds* like lawyer talk to help get the result they need in this lawsuit.

Who knows...Maybe you are right. I am sure more details will come out later from Mike/Adrock if it's not true!

Personally I think they told Adam whether he agreed or not that they didn't want to make new music. I can just see Adrock and Mike D in a lot of grief and telling him that. MCA I am sure would have wanted them to do what they wanted. I dunno. You're right, we can't pretend like we know what was discussed.

[JohnnyChavello]

Yeah sure NME released additional information today. I think the other articles just left out a few important KEY parts that makes all the difference imo.

http://www.nme.com/news/beastie-boys--2/77660

So he actually says they did have a band discussion about this before Yauch passed away.

Weird thing: they're using the Daily News article as a source and it doesn't report that, at least not anymore. I think this item about the discussion of new music was originally part of the Daily News article (I know I remember reading something exactly like what's in the NME article before today). Either the Daily News took it out or they're relying on a different source. Then again, maybe it was part of his testimony and nobody had the sense to quote something more relevant.

It's pretty likely they'd come to the same decision even without a discussion, but I'm not convinced this isn't just someone going out on a limb.

I don't know what to believe anymore!

[KENNY GUIDO]

Although this saddens me to no end, I find it foul that we had to learn of this through other media outlets rather then a media outlet they own that tells ttheir deepest and closest fans.

[3stooges]

Well Mike D states that he and Adrock both promised MCA that they would not make music without him. Unless they would break their promise to him, the band is over.

Well if he said that I'm sure they just meant no longer using the name. As far as playing the songs...they've got this huge catalog of songs. Of course they will be playing some of their songs again, sooner or later, in one form or another. They're musicians. It's what they do. Just because we're all sad about MCA passing on doesn't mean life doesn't go on and people don't go on living and doing their thing. In fact when you play these songs that he was involved in creating and writing, it's the purest form of love and respect for him.

[martijn]

I can't imagine that Yauch said they could never make new music again (as the beastie boys or solo), he even told them they could do every crazy thing they want. Also, they still have new material that they recorded with Yauch shortly before he passed away.

Hope their will be an official statement in the near future

[KENNY GUIDO]

they take thier work (music) very seriously and they perhaps had these beliefs since they were kid or in thier teens that thier music would never be used commercially. I respect that 100%. perhaps they thought it was tacky. but in the end, its thier property and they are the only ones that can decide what happens to it. things can change over the years. One day, all the beasties will be gone, then who is in charge of thier music? the next owner could become greedy and put a beastie boys song on everything and ruin the name. who knows.

[Kid Presentable]

I can't imagine that Yauch said they could never make new music again (as the beastie boys or solo), he even told them they could do every crazy thing they want. Also, they still have new material that they recorded with Yauch shortly before he passed away.

Hope their will be an official statement in the near future

Yeah what's inferred and what's quoted don't line up at all. I'm all for them tastefully calling it a day if they want, but more time with this report has me wondering what was actually said.

[Justin]

If Mike D and Adrock has time they should also sue Monster for their horrible tasting products!

[JoLovesMCA]

If Mike D and Adrock has time they should also sue Monster for their horrible tasting products!

LMAO!

If none of this is true Adrock will surely take to his twitter and debunk it. He did it before when people got the GoldieBlox info twisted. I dunno I had collegues coming up to me in the office asking if I heard the news. I’m like really you’re asking me if I heard that. Of course I heard about it. But I’m surprised they all heard about it. Looks like every news site is reporting it now.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I think it's safe to assume that there is a reasonable understanding that these guys had about using the name and the music going forward and that Mike and Adrock will stick to that agreement. I doubt there are any restrictions on Mike or Adam making any new music, solo or together. That just wouldn't make sense.

It's really cool how well grounded these 3 were and it seems like their spouses and (hopefully) kids are equally well grounded. It really makes MCA's passing seem like that much more of a loss. It's hard to imagine that the group almost split after Licensed to Ill.

[MrSmiley1]

I think it's safe to assume that there is a reasonable understanding that these guys had about using the name and the music going forward and that Mike and Adrock will stick to that agreement. I doubt there are any restrictions on Mike or Adam making any new music, solo or together. That just wouldn't make sense.

I agree with this. It had to have been taken out of context. Besides, Ad-Rock has already done those tracks with Champagne Jerry and I think he has done a remix or 2 since MCA passed. That is hardly making any new music.

[KENNY GUIDO]

As the beasties, mike and ad rock are done. It has to hurt them even thinking they could go on without MCA. They were life long brothers. They were more than brothers. I applaud them for not wanting to do new music as the beasties.

[3stooges]

As the beasties, mike and ad rock are done. It has to hurt them even thinking they could go on without MCA. They were life long brothers. They were more than brothers. I applaud them for not wanting to do new music as the beasties.

I agree about not using the name. It's not Beasties without MCA.

But I do think at some point, they will probably get together under a different band name, with another bass player, and play Beastie songs.

The other thing we have to realize is that, sometimes people in the public say "never", but it doesn't really mean "never." It's just a way of getting people to leave them alone and stop asking the question. That way they can be left alone with no expectations. It doesn't necessarily mean they don't think they might do something some time down the line. They just aren't in that mode right now and want people to leave them alone about it.

[Bernard Goetz]

I think what might be being missed in this whole conversation is that the context of this:
"We have not been able to tour since MCA, Adam Yauch, died," Diamond said. "We can't make new music."
...could be in relation to the amount of money for which the Beastie Boys are suing Monster. Mike said it on the stand, and according to reporting, Monster's argument is that they (Monster) shouldn't have to pay so much (up to $2 mill), where the Beasties, by saying "We can't make new music" could be making a legal argument for the amount of money they are demanding. I'm no lawyer though.

[YoungRemy]

^^

that's exactly what I thought in the 'adrock going to court' thread. everything they said under deposition or cross examination was in reference to their band being unable to generate income as easily as they had for the last two and a half decades.



hey I know they won't ever make new music but that doesn't mean they can't release the stuff they are holding on to, hopefully with Yauch's blessing, which again, no one knows what that was.

and I'm not using nme or the daily news as my source on what was promised.

[Micodin]

The only thing that has been promised by Mike and Adam is the book. And that was in negotiations a couple years before Yauch turned for the worse.

I'd love to see a documentary directed by Spike Jonze.

I'd love to see Mike and Adam do a joint side project. I think they could make some interesting tunes. But the thought of them "get together under a different band name, with another bass player, and play Beastie songs" turns my stomach. The Beastie Boys were Mike, Adam & Adam and that's how it should stay.

If the vault was opened and MP3's started to rain from the sky I'd take it gladly.

But honestly they owe us nothing. Including updates and information. The only thing the Beastie Boys owed us were great records and great performances. And they knocked that out of the park.

I appreciate the hopes and speculation, but that's all it is. Right now all we have coming to us as fans is the book. And I'll standing in line the day it comes out just like all of their records.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I hope this helps folks and the band move on. It is strange how one becomes so dependent on a hiatus being over.

I look forward to Ad-Rock and/or Mike D making some serious new music one day. Letting go of the idea that there is a future to new Beastie Boys' albums without Adam Yauch is a healthy development and may well get them thinking seriously about what their artistic futures will entail.

[JoLovesMCA]

Also, there situation is unique. They played music as the Beastie Boys not because they wanted to be in a band, because really any of them at any time could just join a band and play music. They did it because they wanted to play with each other. They were always different and that’s what made them so special. And as Sir SkratchaLot pointed out, it’s what makes it that much more of a loss.

But…. a world without the Beastie Boys is just tragic.

[DocPeterZ]

I'm sorry, but I disagree with a lot of you. I am pretty sure that Adam would not want them to just quit. They all had fun making music and he would want them to continue. I was really wishing they would do 1 last tour in honor of Adam. And having a "fill in" would not be disrespectful in any way, it would be showing how much people cared for and respected the Beastie Boys.

[3stooges]

I just don't get how some of you guys don't think they'll ever play their songs again. Ever? They've got so many good songs. They're not going to just never play them again. Just not yet.

[Brass Monk]

no, they won't, because they don't respect his recent "work"

they made that clear.

just like they made clear that they celebrate the world of Star Trek which is the main reason for giving them the song, as explained above.

I think they at least liked "predator" judging by the So Whatcha Want video.

[Kid Presentable]

They haven't played any of the songs in five years. Through much of that time there were still three members. I think in light of losing your best friend, brother, whatever, playing Sure Shot again probly just isn't a priority.

What's important is that there was definitely an intangible quality you got from the trio, and that's gone now. Nothing will substitute for it, and so maybe it's for the best that the door is closed on it. Maybe there will still be out takes, maybe a new project.

But, then again, maybe not.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I'm sorry, but I disagree with a lot of you. I am pretty sure that Adam would not want them to just quit. They all had fun making music and he would want them to continue. I was really wishing they would do 1 last tour in honor of Adam. And having a "fill in" would not be disrespectful in any way, it would be showing how much people cared for and respected the Beastie Boys.

I think I can imagine a fill in (for all three) tribute gig organised by others (i.e., not the band as they are still grieving and possibly a bit lost artistically). I can also imagine the two of them along with other members over the years doing cameos as well out of respect or catharsis. It could be a special event (i.e., like MCA day) if done tastefully (i.e., like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame gig but with many more and different people including the Roots, Chuck D etc). It would need to be curated by an artist (e.g., Chuck D, Thurston Moore, Beck and so on). The proceeds could go to a cancer charity (or multiple cancer charities). It could be called "The Bodhisattva Vow Festival" and showcase new bands as well as the annual Adam Yauch tribute performance set by guests and be held simultaneously at different key spots around the world (London, Paris, Rome, New York, Brazil etc). Each year it could be recorded in HD (possibly by fans like the MSG gig with footage going to Oscilloscope) and then placed on a Blu Ray so that different performances recorded at the same time could be viewed via the different layers function of most players. Blu Ray sales would also go to charity. I can see this possibly replacing MCA Day and be a much bigger sociopolitical cause / musical project. Does anyone want to organize it? I would imagine about 100 core people would be needed to pull it off (20 in each major city).

[Kid Presentable]

I think I can imagine a fill in (for all three) tribute gig organised by others (i.e., not the band as they are still grieving and possibly a bit lost artistically). I can also imagine the two of them along with other members over the years doing cameos as well out of respect or catharsis. It could be a special event (i.e., like MCA day) if done tastefully (i.e., like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame gig but with many more and different people including the Roots, Chuck D etc). It would need to be curated by an artist (e.g., Chuck D, Thurston Moore, Beck and so on). The proceeds could go to a cancer charity (or multiple cancer charities). It could be called "The Bodhisattva Vow Festival" and showcase new bands as well as the annual Adam Yauch tribute performance set by guests and be held simultaneously at different key spots around the world (London, Paris, Rome, New York, Brazil etc). Each year it could be recorded in HD (possibly by fans like the MSG gig with footage going to Oscilloscope) and then placed on a Blu Ray so that different performances recorded at the same time could be viewed via the different layers function of most players. Blu Ray sales would also go to charity. I can see this possibly replacing MCA Day and be a much bigger sociopolitical cause / musical project. Does anyone want to organize it? I would imagine about 100 core people would be needed to pull it off (20 in each major city).

What they're doing now is fine.

[3stooges]

The reason it sounds so unlikely to you guys is you keep wanting it to be the same. Be more open minded about the future. It's going to be different. And inevitably, won't be as good.

There are tons of bands who have done similar stuff. Some people don't like it. Some people are just happy to get whatever they can get. It would be like that. I'm not saying it's any kind of priority. I'm just saying I think it'll happen at some point. It might be a long time...but I think it'll happen eventually.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

What they're doing now is fine.

Who are "they", the MCA Day organizers?

[Kid Presentable]

Who are "they", the MCA Day organizers?

The Beastie Boys.

If you're talking another fan driven thing, sure, why not?

[Kid Presentable]

The reason it sounds so unlikely to you guys is you keep wanting it to be the same. Be more open minded about the future. It's going to be different. And inevitably, won't be as good.

There are tons of bands who have done similar stuff. Some people don't like it. Some people are just happy to get whatever they can get. It would be like that. I'm not saying it's any kind of priority. I'm just saying I think it'll happen at some point. It might be a long time...but I think it'll happen eventually.

I think the reason might be that the band has shown class and restraint to this point. That, and they don't really have an analogue in the music biz. Tons of bands don't set the precedent for this one. Just my opinion, though.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

The Beastie Boys.

If you're talking another fan driven thing, sure, why not?

Ya, I was just talking about a non-profit fan-based festival for a good cause. I would presume Mike, Adam and touring members would be invited formally (via their management company) to give talks or perhaps perform (DJ set etc) only if they wanted to of course.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I think the reason might be that the band has shown class and restraint to this point. That, and they don't really have an analogue in the music biz. Tons of bands don't set the precedent for this one. Just my opinion, though.

Cannot really expect otherwise as they are a genuine class act. They would never cheapen the Beastie Boys to go out and make a quick buck. That is one of the reasons I like them so much along with the great tunes, live performances
and classic music videos over the years. Their cool social and political head space is key to their longevity and success.

[fonky pizza]

I think I can imagine a fill in (for all three) tribute gig organised by others (i.e., not the band as they are still grieving and possibly a bit lost artistically). I can also imagine the two of them along with other members over the years doing cameos as well out of respect or catharsis. It could be a special event (i.e., like MCA day) if done tastefully (i.e., like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame gig but with many more and different people including the Roots, Chuck D etc). It would need to be curated by an artist (e.g., Chuck D, Thurston Moore, Beck and so on). The proceeds could go to a cancer charity (or multiple cancer charities). It could be called "The Bodhisattva Vow Festival" and showcase new bands as well as the annual Adam Yauch tribute performance set by guests and be held simultaneously at different key spots around the world (London, Paris, Rome, New York, Brazil etc). Each year it could be recorded in HD (possibly by fans like the MSG gig with footage going to Oscilloscope) and then placed on a Blu Ray so that different performances recorded at the same time could be viewed via the different layers function of most players. Blu Ray sales would also go to charity. I can see this possibly replacing MCA Day and be a much bigger sociopolitical cause / musical project. Does anyone want to organize it? I would imagine about 100 core people would be needed to pull it off (20 in each major city).

That's a brillant idea, like the Tibetan freedom concert, it was such an awesome event and by the way my fisrt cd-rom! I'd support the event and I most def I would play with my band(y)

[Kid Presentable]

Ya, I was just talking about a non-profit fan-based festival for a good cause. I would presume Mike, Adam and touring members would be invited formally (via their management company) to give talks or perhaps perform (DJ set etc) only if they wanted to of course.

I don't know about reaching out to the band, but it's not a bad idea.

[ClarenceAlabama]

I agree about not using the name. It's not Beasties without MCA.

But I do think at some point, they will probably get together under a different band name, with another bass player, and play Beastie songs.


I agree! I would never want to hear their rap songs with a fill in for MCA. It wouldn't be the same. I think all their rap songs should be retired forever. Their 3 voices blended together is what made those songs great.

I know it's strange, but I would be ok with Mike D and Adrock teaming up with a bass player and a drummer and playing their Punk songs live under a different name like they did with Quasar. If they ever decide to play live again, I could see a scenario like this.

[3stooges]

I think the reason might be that the band has shown class and restraint to this point. That, and they don't really have an analogue in the music biz. Tons of bands don't set the precedent for this one. Just my opinion, though.

Of course, of course. I'm not saying they'd get it together and do it now. People seem to think everything has to be "right now". That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, eventually....

I know right now, it's not even a consideration. I would be the same way. But years down the line, it's not going to be "too soon" any more.

Think in like five, ten years....they're bored and feel like playing shows...I don't see what's so crazy about that...

And yeah I'm not thinking about them rapping. That might be unlikely (not that they couldn't do some of their rap songs as a duo if they wanted to). But putting a band together and playing the live shit would be easy. And I don't think it cheapens it. It won't be as good, but I don't think that means they'd be sellouts..

Maybe I'll be proven wrong. Maybe they won't be feelin' it. But my instinct tells me, these guys love playing music for people, and eventually they will be back at it.

[facedownfall]

Mike and Adam could just play "Dope Little Song" and that's about it as far as rapping goes. They could form a band with Kate and Jill from Luscious Jackson.

[dave790]

There are no quotes surrounding their future. I think the Beastie Boys ended on 4/05/12. I'm at ease with that - obviously devastated still by the circumstances - but I neither expect nor desire anything new, even from "the vaults" or from Mike and Adam.

Just gonna go shuffle up some of my favourite songs and be thankful for what I've got.

Also... even if Mike did infer that they promised Yauch they would not make any new Beasties music, I imagine that would have come from himself and Adrock out of respect for their friend and the obvious end of their band, not at Yauch's behest.

[YoungRemy]

and here we go again.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Of course, of course. I'm not saying they'd get it together and do it now. People seem to think everything has to be "right now". That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, eventually....

I know right now, it's not even a consideration. I would be the same way. But years down the line, it's not going to be "too soon" any more.

Think in like five, ten years....they're bored and feel like playing shows...I don't see what's so crazy about that...

And yeah I'm not thinking about them rapping. That might be unlikely (not that they couldn't do some of their rap songs as a duo if they wanted to). But putting a band together and playing the live shit would be easy. And I don't think it cheapens it. It won't be as good, but I don't think that means they'd be sellouts..

Maybe I'll be proven wrong. Maybe they won't be feelin' it. But my instinct tells me, these guys love playing music for people, and eventually they will be back at it.

It is interesting to consider what these two artists will feel like doing in the future. I think they probably want to create new music and are doing so in their 'bedrooms'. It will probably take them 5 years from now to put out a full album of new material under some name(s). I think there will be rapping as they are rappers. I think there will be punk / new wave in some sense. The other new sounds integrated could be something much more experimental than we are used to from their older side projects. Not sure BS2000 or Latch Brothers would be enough of a new direction for either of them. I also think they will not want people to think Beastie Boys when they hear new material. That should not be too hard for them as they are extremely creative.

[Brother McDuff]

i think alot of folks are looking too much into this. yauch was a very practical guy. he simply didnt want any new music made under the beasties' name that lacked the classic dynamic. stuff made before he passed i would imagine is still fair game, and of course mike and adam can do whatever they want outside of the beastie moniker. im confident they have a little left in the tank in the general sense, be it together, solo, or with other cats. just not as the beastie boys.

the beastie boys are done, thats a guarantee. a fill-in is preposterous. the beasties' personal identities are too vital to the unit's identity to even entertain such an idea. i think we can expect a degree of unreleased material at different stages of completion trickling out over the coming years, as well as some career retrospective type releases, i.e. the book, photo collections, maybe some rare video programs, etc. But theres no doubt in my mind that this band has performed its last show and released its last 'official' album. the only exception is the other hsc volume and if that was ever completed. even then i wouldnt expect a tour though.

[KENNY GUIDO]

Who said yauch didn't want new music under the Beastie name? It seems that mike and Adam just don't want to record new music under the Beastie name. Doesn't say anywhere that it was yauchs demand. It seems that w/o yauch, its not the same period. I would feel the same way....they've been friends for almost 40 years and have done everything in the group collectively. I'm sure mike and Adam will still tour as a group but recording new music is out of the question and I'm sure it wasn't in yauchs will. Let's b real

[beasties#1fan]

and here we go again.

4real

[pesto pizza]

and here we go again.

oh no! the message board police does'nt like you giving your views because he has already said his piece

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Regardless of the BBMB police, perhaps there is more mileage to this discussion. The questions that appear to remain unresolved in my mind are:

(1) Did Yauch really specify to Adam and Mike not to carry on as Beastie Boys (I would think he would not have done them like that, and vice versa).

(2) Will anything Adam or Mike release be different enough from Beastie Boys to not simply be lumped into the same section of the record store (probably not). "What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet"

Here are my predictions for the future:

(a) Mike D joins Major Lazer.

(b) The King Ad-Rock develops a new hip hop band with Danny Brown called
"The Electric Kool-Aid Molly Test" and sign to Matador Records.

(c) Neither of them do anything (i.e., official release wise) again because they feel they have done enough in this world (sure hope that is not true).

[YoungRemy]

I'm more of an idiot detective.

[Micodin]

I'm more of an idiot detective.

i know what you did last summer!

[Kid Presentable]

Regardless of the BBMB police, perhaps there is more mileage to this discussion. The questions that appear to remain unresolved in my mind are:

(1) Did Yauch really specify to Adam and Mike not to carry on as Beastie Boys (I would think he would not have done them like that, and vice versa).

(2) Will anything Adam or Mike release be different enough from Beastie Boys to not simply be lumped into the same section of the record store (probably not). "What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet"

Here are my predictions for the future:

(a) Mike D joins Major Lazer.

(b) The King Ad-Rock develops a new hip hop band with Danny Brown called
"The Electric Kool-Aid Molly Test" and sign to Matador Records.

(c) Neither of them do anything (i.e., official release wise) again because they feel they have done enough in this world (sure hope that is not true).
What did Mike say in 2012? Something like "up until last week i thought Adam was somehow coming back". That last week, they may have discussed it, and it's feasible that they promised him they wouldn't carry on making new music under the name, although not necessarily at his behest. It dies with him. Even releasing new music (ie unreleased shit) would be off. How do you promote something when the elephant in the room is your deceased brother? Yeah, Queen did it, but they were able to reflect that because they were a kind of grandiose, dramatic band (at times). Even when Yauch was undergoing treatment during HSC2 press, those moments of solemnity, while touching, were massively at odds with the spirit of the band. Magnify that by about a million. I think it would be too hard.

That's basically why, to me, it ended as I knew it with Yauch's announcement. Shit got real. Although, I have to concede that the heavy time period did still yield some output.

Tough one.

[fonky pizza]

There are no Beastie Boys without MCA.
I don't think I would enjoy a Beastie Boys named record without MCA, I would feel the missing too much while Beastie Boys name has always brought a lot of excitement and energy.

but my opinion is subject to change, for real, I just don't know, sure I'd like to hear more music from beastie crew.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

There are no Beastie Boys without MCA.
I don't think I would enjoy a Beastie Boys named record without MCA, I would feel the missing too much while Beastie Boys name has always brought a lot of excitement and energy.

but my opinion is subject to change, for real, I just don't know, sure I'd like to hear more music from beastie crew.

I think a Beastie Boys record without MCA would be just too sad to handle. Sometimes sad music can be catharsis, but Mike D and Ad-Rock do not make that kind of music and even if they did it would come off as crass I fear.

Perhaps it is good that the two have a history of working together without MCA (e.g., remixes). Anything they do will be listened to and critiqued in the context of their past work and the loss of MCA. I would hate to be in their situation professionally-speaking actually.

[Kid Presentable]

Let alone personally.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Let alone personally.

Losing a loved one is a terrible thing that can take years to overcome to get back on track. When your work depends on that person as well I cannot really imagine what that would be like.

[Uru-Nitro]

I'm sure they won't make new music under the name of Beastie Boys, but I do believe they will open the vaul eventually. It doesn't need tour or promotion shows. just wake up one day with a new good looking beasstieboys.com website with a lot of new tracks, information, pics and so on

[Kid Presentable]

I'm sure they won't make new music under the name of Beastie Boys, but I do believe they will open the vaul eventually. It doesn't need tour or promotion shows. just wake up one day with a new good looking beasstieboys.com website with a lot of new tracks, information, pics and so on

That would be wicked to integrate with the memoir.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

If they put out the original studio version of Desperado I'll never ask for anything else ever again. I promise.;)

[JoLovesMCA]

I'm sure they won't make new music under the name of Beastie Boys, but I do believe they will open the vaul eventually. It doesn't need tour or promotion shows. just wake up one day with a new good looking beasstieboys.com website with a lot of new tracks, information, pics and so on

That would be great. As a fan it would be something to look forward to.

[Micodin]

If they put out the original studio version of Desperado I'll never ask for anything else ever again. I promise.;)

Yes! If it's the Tougher Than Leather version I will also never ask for anything again and I promise to be more outgoing at parties and weddings.

[Brother McDuff]

i dont doubt weve got some fun things to look forward to in the future by way of unreleased material, i just dont expect any 'brand new' recordings credited to the bboys, let alone any touring. i dont even think i could handle experiencing them as a duo, let alone mike and horovitz.

[KENNY GUIDO]

If they put out the original studio version of Desperado I'll never ask for anything else ever again. I promise.;)

This

[YoungRemy]

on the last page of this Monster Children issue #43, there is an "outro" art piece that has a distinct TheMixUp vibe, by artist Geoff McFetridge, who contributed to Grand Royal and worked on the intro graphic credits on the "Don't Play No Game I can't Win" video.

it is Mike D at a control center connected to all these other artists and creative contributors from the Beastie universe, including Ari Marcopoulos, Mike Mills, Ian Rogers, and Spike Jonze.

on the control center is a burning candle that says "Free Tibet" and this is the profile for Guest Editor Mike Diamond:

Mike D
Member Beastie Boys 1982-?
Editor Grand Royal Magazine 1993-1998
Curator Transmission LA: AV Club at MOCA 2012


straight from the horse's mouth.

it is really something.

ya'll are sleeping on this Monster Children magazine.

[JohnnyChavello]

on the control center is a burning candle that says "Free Tibet" and this is the profile for Guest Editor Mike Diamond:

Mike D
Member Beastie Boys 1982-?
Editor Grand Royal Magazine 1993-1998
Curator Transmission LA: AV Club at MOCA 2012

straight from the horse's mouth.

it is really something.

ya'll are sleeping on this Monster Children magazine.

Nice! That's really good to see. Haven't gotten mine yet, but looking forward to it.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Mike D
Member Beastie Boys 1982-?
Editor Grand Royal Magazine 1993-1998
Curator Transmission LA: AV Club at MOCA 2012

===

Even though there are no more Beastie Boys albums coming, once a Beastie Boys always a Beastie Boys. That is what the above clearly states. I think Wikipedia's entry for Beastie Boys is wrong about the 'end' of the band and tenure of members post hardcore. Mike D, Ad-Rock and MCA will always be Beastie Boys! Beastie Boys' music will live forever even though MCA will likely not be reborn like Jesus and return to Earth for one last album. If you disagree do not post here or respond to me, because I hate you ;)

Note: I do not really hate you.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

There are no quotes surrounding their future. I think the Beastie Boys ended on 4/05/12. I'm at ease with that - obviously devastated still by the circumstances - but I neither expect nor desire anything new, even from "the vaults" or from Mike and Adam.

Just gonna go shuffle up some of my favourite songs and be thankful for what I've got.

Also... even if Mike did infer that they promised Yauch they would not make any new Beasties music, I imagine that would have come from himself and Adrock out of respect for their friend and the obvious end of their band, not at Yauch's behest.

Agreed, but expect their legend to exist for generations. Indeed we will be green space aliens on another planet and still listening to Beastie Boys (probably not).

[JohnnyChavello]

Even though there are no more Beastie Boys albums coming, once a Beastie Boys always a Beastie Boys. That is what the above clearly states.

Unless you know something I don't, it doesn't clearly state anything. That's what a question mark implies, right? That it's unknown?

[Michelle*s_Farm]

Unless you know something I don't, it doesn't clearly state anything. That's what a question mark implies, right? That it's unknown?

Can't argue with that logic. It is strange that Mike D seems to be telling the media that the band is no more, but does not give his membership a demise date (i.e., question mark). I think demise dates are bit over dramatic for a somewhat fictitious entity. Although perhaps I am confusing levels (band, person, membership in band, legacy). Maybe the idea of a demise date for a band is passe. Can you still be a member of band that no longer exists, or does the membership in a band make it automatically exist just in a different form. I do not know.

[Uru-Nitro]

I don't think Mike or Adam said that the band is over. I mean, they said that they won't make new music as Beastie Boys, and Mike said that he won´t repeat a band-experience. but nothing of that means that they are no longer "representing" the beastie boys. I think the Beastie Boys will be alive as long as Mike and Adam do.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I don't think Mike or Adam said that the band is over. I mean, they said that they won't make new music as Beastie Boys, and Mike said that he won´t repeat a band-experience. but nothing of that means that they are no longer "representing" the beastie boys. I think the Beastie Boys will be alive as long as Mike and Adam do.

That makes sense.

[M|X|Y]

We've all heard what Beastie Boys sound like in songs that Yauch didn't participate on, haven't we? Aren't there other songs like "Mike on the Mic" that just 2/3 of them worked on?

[Michelle*s_Farm]

We've all heard what Beastie Boys sound like in songs that Yauch didn't participate on, haven't we? Aren't there other songs like "Mike on the Mic" that just 2/3 of them worked on?

Yauch probably had his hand in songs where his vocals were absent...

[YoungRemy]

from the link KP shared about him producing the new Portugal. The Man album


‘‘Since Adam’s death ... I’m not ever gonna repeat my band experience,’’ Diamond said. ‘‘I had the best experience in terms of being in a band, but being in a band is kind of like a full-contact sport. It’s a young person’s sport!
At the same time I still love music and listening to music and making music, so ... later this summer I’m producing a record by this band called Portugal. The Man, just because I like them."

‘‘I feel fortunate that I can do something like that where I just care about it and I don’t have to worry about ‘Is this gonna pay my rent somehow?’ or whatever.’’

Even though Beastie Boys are no more, Diamond spends his time doing, in a way, what he always did: ‘‘being challenged by new experiences’’. Not only has he guest-edited issue 43 of Monster Children, he designed an effortlessly cool wallet for them (which he pulls out of his pocket to show us) and has even created his own bespoke wallpaper for Brooklyn company Flavor Paper.


‘‘I mean, anybody who paints or takes photographs – any creative person – the most exciting point is kinda that leap of faith that you’re gonna take where it’s like, yeah, you might knock your head against a wall a thousand times trying to get that one thing, but ultimately you’ve decided to make this thing that you’ve never made before and you just have to figure it out. So I’m lucky that I somehow get these opportunities.’’


And while new Beastie Boys music may be out of the question, that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ve heard the last tunes from Diamond and the surviving Adam, Horovitz, who still see each other regularly in their home town of New York.
‘‘Yeah,’’ Diamond says. ‘‘I mean, Adam and I, we still have this unique ...’’ He laughs. ‘‘We’re stuck with each other, basically.’’


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/no-more-beastie-boys-but-mike-d-is-still-thriving-20140626-zsj9f.html#ixzz35mCCo3Fd

the shit is really real

[Laver1969]

I've always loved the Beasties from that very first time I heard them. And my obsession over the years has always involved finding out what cool, unique, weird side projects they were into.

Now...we just get the side projects.

I'm looking forward to the memoir, and maybe some other beastie stuff leaks out in some form or fashion. But for now...it's interesting to learn what they're up to. Whether it's my cup of tea or not ... There's still something magical when it's the beasties. Even if it's wall paper or cabaret dancing.

[Kid Presentable]

Mike on ABC. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-26/what-comes-after-life-as-a-beastie-boy/5553640)

Watch the clip or read the transcript. Nice little story.

[fonky pizza]

Mike on ABC. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-26/what-comes-after-life-as-a-beastie-boy/5553640)

Watch the clip or read the transcript. Nice little story.

Thanks for the link (y)

I see Beasties as a team, a team with a core and it's satellites, once you've been touched by it, you go Beastie, Beastie for a day, Beastie forever!!!

Whether you like it or not, I consider myself a part of this team and proud to say: "Je suis Beastie"
:cool:

[pesto pizza]

I've always loved the Beasties from that very first time I heard them. And my obsession over the years has always involved finding out what cool, unique, weird side projects they were into.

Now...we just get the side projects.

I'm looking forward to the memoir, and maybe some other beastie stuff leaks out in some form or fashion. But for now...it's interesting to learn what they're up to. Whether it's my cup of tea or not ... There's still something magical when it's the beasties. Even if it's wall paper or cabaret dancing.

thats just how I feel

[Laver1969]

Mike on ABC. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-26/what-comes-after-life-as-a-beastie-boy/5553640)

Watch the clip or read the transcript. Nice little story.

Thanks for the link! Great hearing/seeing Mike talk about it. I'm sure there's more to this interview. What we saw is just the edited down version. I'd love to see the whole thing...