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coreyisking711
07-17-2014, 06:45 PM
http://theboombox.com/beastie-boys-pauls-boutique-album-book/

and

http://6623press.com/

this is going to be incredible regardless, but i wonder how different it can really be from Dan LeRoy's 33 1/3 book. i wonder if there is a way to pre-order the paperback

Laver1969
07-17-2014, 07:21 PM
Looks really cool.

There has to be a lot of duplication...but sounds like lots of new info too.

abbott
07-17-2014, 10:04 PM
Looks like I'm in

Brother McDuff
07-18-2014, 10:31 AM
holy cow! this is a nice surprise

doesnt seem to be a pre-order for this item. has anyone found any info on pre-order?

Bernard Goetz
07-18-2014, 11:20 AM
Among the discoveries in the book are stories about unearthed outtakes from ’Paul’s Boutique’ recording sessions, including the album’s unheard lost single.

:eek::confused::confused::eek:

Jay Stone
07-18-2014, 01:28 PM
I was just about to order the 33 1/3 book. I wonder how much will be rehashed?

ClarenceAlabama
07-19-2014, 09:21 AM
I was just about to order the 33 1/3 book. I wonder how much will be rehashed?

It will probably be an updated version of the 33 1/3 book with new bonus material added in. I would wait and get this new book. It sounds like it's going to be good.

Jay Stone
07-19-2014, 09:25 AM
New info at the publishers site says that this new book will be a nice companion piece to the old one
http://6623press.tumblr.com

JohnnyChavello
07-19-2014, 11:50 AM
I want to know about this lost single. I think there's an interview in 33 1/3 with Max Perlich talking about a song he really liked that the Beastie Boys rejected as too commercial. It was based around a sample of Wilson Pickett's Engine No. 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPoTl1f26U8).

beasties#1fan
07-21-2014, 12:53 AM
http://theboombox.com/beastie-boys-pauls-boutique-album-book/

and

http://6623press.com/

this is going to be incredible regardless, but i wonder how different it can really be from Dan LeRoy's 33 1/3 book. i wonder if there is a way to pre-order the paperback

yo im excited

Uru-Nitro
07-21-2014, 04:16 AM
I want to know about this lost single. I think there's an interview in 33 1/3 with Max Perlich talking about a song he really liked that the Beastie Boys rejected as too commercial. It was based around a sample of Wilson Pickett's Engine No. 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPoTl1f26U8).

:eek: that would be so awesome!

Brother McDuff
07-21-2014, 10:05 AM
I want to know about this lost single. I think there's an interview in 33 1/3 with Max Perlich talking about a song he really liked that the Beastie Boys rejected as too commercial. It was based around a sample of Wilson Pickett's Engine No. 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPoTl1f26U8).

i recall this as well. cant wait to hear the info, though its gonna be such a tease.

JohnnyChavello
07-21-2014, 02:46 PM
i recall this as well. cant wait to hear the info, though its gonna be such a tease.

Yeah, I'm holding out hope that they'll find a way to get this (and other stuff) out through the book release.

That opening bass line is perfect for a PB-era single. Give the people what they want!

Brother McDuff
07-22-2014, 11:15 AM
unfortunately i feel that if the song had any real chance of surfacing then the possibility would already have been thoroughly explored during the 2009 re-mastering. perhaps the book release can provoke an anonymous source to dig it out of their crawlspace and share it with the community via bootleg. its a shame that copyright laws soiled the opportunity for all of the paul's boutique extras to receive anniversary treatment as the other albums had offered. someone get wilson pickett on the horn (from beyond the grave) and tell him its go time! (though i very highly doubt he owned his own publishing anyhow)

pesto pizza
07-22-2014, 11:48 AM
cant find the book on pre-order anywhere there
is another book coming out on aug 14th in hardback with a lti era photo on the front

JohnnyChavello
07-22-2014, 05:27 PM
unfortunately i feel that if the song had any real chance of surfacing then the possibility would already have been thoroughly explored during the 2009 re-mastering. perhaps the book release can provoke an anonymous source to dig it out of their crawlspace and share it with the community via bootleg. its a shame that copyright laws soiled the opportunity for all of the paul's boutique extras to receive anniversary treatment as the other albums had offered. someone get wilson pickett on the horn (from beyond the grave) and tell him its go time! (though i very highly doubt he owned his own publishing anyhow)

You're probably right, but if the book publisher or Capitol were willing to pay to license the samples (who knows how many there are), it really wouldn't be impossible to put out an unreleased song or two. The idea that it exists and nobody (I) will ever hear it is crazy to me.

Brother McDuff
07-23-2014, 09:43 AM
You're probably right, but if the book publisher or Capitol were willing to pay to license the samples (who knows how many there are), it really wouldn't be impossible to put out an unreleased song or two. The idea that it exists and nobody (I) will ever hear it is crazy to me.

unfortunately they wouldnt have a chance in hell to recoup there money, even if they actually promoted the track as a single. licensing is just way too much to spend for simply doing the fans a favor.

JohnnyChavello
07-24-2014, 09:34 AM
unfortunately they wouldnt have a chance in hell to recoup there money, even if they actually promoted the track as a single. licensing is just way too much to spend for simply doing the fans a favor.

That's not necessarily true. The unreleased track would drive up book sales and they could work out a deal to recoup through some proportion of those sales and on the first dollars in on sales of the single. People still license samples (including the Beasties).

Bernard Goetz
07-24-2014, 11:02 AM
unfortunately i feel that if the song had any real chance of surfacing then the possibility would already have been thoroughly explored during the 2009 re-mastering.
its a shame that copyright laws soiled the opportunity for all of the paul's boutique extras to receive anniversary treatment as the other albums had offered.

The PB remaster has always puzzled me for the way it didn't have any extras like the others did. Why not a second disc with some demos (like IC got a Heart Attack Man demo) and b-sides (33% God, etc), at least?

coreyisking711
07-24-2014, 11:38 AM
just trying to decide if I'd rather get it right on the 25th with the download or have a physical copy

Bernard Goetz
07-24-2014, 12:28 PM
It's not on Amazon. The link from the 6623 site goes to page of search results for Dan LeRoy. Searching the title on Amazon shows:
Your search "For Whom the Cowbell Tolls: 25 Years of Paul's Boutique" did not match any products.

WTF

Brother McDuff
07-24-2014, 03:58 PM
That's not necessarily true. The unreleased track would drive up book sales and they could work out a deal to recoup through some proportion of those sales and on the first dollars in on sales of the single. People still license samples (including the Beasties).

sounds like a stretch, imo. you fail to consider that, in congruence with their output from the era, the song likely has upwards of a dozen more samples to clear, besides the wilson pickett song. the sales of the book, which beyond the beastie community will be minimal at best, will hardly come close to covering such high overhead. its just not a rational or worthwhile push for a 25 year-old song that was deemed unfit to include on the album in the first place.

Uru-Nitro
07-24-2014, 04:11 PM
maybe the song can just leak... I doubt they cleared songs like "rock hard", have they?

Micodin
07-24-2014, 04:30 PM
maybe the song can just leak... I doubt they cleared songs like "rock hard", have they?

I'm not sure if Rock Hard was cleared or not but it did get a official release in '85 on vinyl.

They tried to put Rock Hard on The Sounds of Science but the sample clearance prevented that. So, I guess they never cleared it.

JohnnyChavello
07-24-2014, 07:42 PM
sounds like a stretch, imo. you fail to consider that, in congruence with their output from the era, the song likely has upwards of a dozen more samples to clear, besides the wilson pickett song. the sales of the book, which beyond the beastie community will be minimal at best, will hardly come close to covering such high overhead. its just not a rational or worthwhile push for a 25 year-old song that was deemed unfit to include on the album in the first place.

OK

WesleyOHSnaps!
07-24-2014, 09:40 PM
So the book comes out tomorrow, but not in actual book stores?

pshabi
07-24-2014, 10:37 PM
OK

He's right.

cj hood
07-25-2014, 06:03 AM
Reading it now. They did a Rush diss called Caught.

writing down lyrics in the back of the cab standing on the corner waiting to get stabbed you try to keep the Louis you don't pay the band you should never messed with the egg man.

The list single was called....(won't ruin it for ya but it's good).

Kenny Guido made the book!

Bernard Goetz
07-25-2014, 07:07 AM
How do you have it - Kindle DL?

coreyisking711
07-25-2014, 07:44 AM
i'm about 1/4 of the way through- downloaded it to the kindle app on my iPhone.

i will say that this book does not make the 33 1/3 book obsolete- this new book is more about the "zeitgeist" surrounding pauls boutique and details all the players involved, and even looks back retrospectively at the impact the album has had through many different cultural lenses. if you are looking for more of a detailing of recording techniques and stories of how each song came to be- the 33 1/3 title is probably more useful.

that being said, i'm loving it so far.

WesleyOHSnaps!
07-25-2014, 08:25 AM
Sorry to ask this again, but I can't find the book. Can someone tell me where they got it?

coreyisking711
07-25-2014, 08:30 AM
Sorry to ask this again, but I can't find the book. Can someone tell me where they got it?

http://www.amazon.com/Whom-Cowbell-Tolls-Years-Boutique-ebook/dp/B00M3PB83S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406298606&sr=8-2&keywords=for+whom+the+cowbell+tolls

Jay Stone
07-25-2014, 09:21 AM
I'll definitely be downloading this tonight.

JohnnyChavello
07-25-2014, 10:06 AM
He's right.

There's no way to know. Everyone assumes it can't be done - probably because every article written about Paul's Boutique (by a music critic) in the last fifteen years begins by saying it would be impossible to make today. It's just become part of the conventional wisdom on sampling, but it isn't necessarily true.

For one song, it could absolutely happen. Let's say there are twelve samples in this song, each of which needs to be licensed. How much do you think it costs to clear composition and sound recording copyrights in a sample? With good attorneys (and goodwill toward the project and the band) this could absolutely be done within a reasonable budget. It could also fail because of holdouts or escalating MFN clauses, but that's where skilled transactional lawyers come in to play.

Documentary filmmakers regularly license hundreds of photographs, film clips, songs, etc. for their works and documentary films aren't goldmines by any stretch of the imagination. If filmmakers can create collages, musicians can figure it out too.

Saying it can't be done is just lazy.

Brother McDuff
07-25-2014, 10:56 AM
kinda wanna hold out for the paperback, but im afraid my will is not that strong...

cj hood
07-25-2014, 06:26 PM
Done!

bigfatlove06
07-25-2014, 08:13 PM
I just finished reading this, and was happy to find that my high expectations were met. Parts of the book are literally (pardon the pun) compelling. For fans who would bother coming to this board to read about others' opinion of the book, you'll consider your money well spent.

bigfatlove06
07-25-2014, 08:42 PM
There's no way to know. Everyone assumes it can't be done - probably because every article written about Paul's Boutique (by a music critic) in the last fifteen years begins by saying it would be impossible to make today. It's just become part of the conventional wisdom on sampling, but it isn't necessarily true.

For one song, it could absolutely happen. Let's say there are twelve samples in this song, each of which needs to be licensed. How much do you think it costs to clear composition and sound recording copyrights in a sample? With good attorneys (and goodwill toward the project and the band) this could absolutely be done within a reasonable budget. It could also fail because of holdouts or escalating MFN clauses, but that's where skilled transactional lawyers come in to play.

Documentary filmmakers regularly license hundreds of photographs, film clips, songs, etc. for their works and documentary films aren't goldmines by any stretch of the imagination. If filmmakers can create collages, musicians can figure it out too.

Saying it can't be done is just lazy.

I hope you're right, sir. If there is an audio component to the memoirs, it would certainly be more than just a favor to fans.

MCScoobyT
07-25-2014, 09:15 PM
Spoiler (http://theboombox.com/beastie-boys-jerry-lewis/)

coreyisking711
07-25-2014, 10:09 PM
one of the highlights is for sure the segment about mike giving their new manager at the time shit about arranging his solo album and getting stevie wonder as a feature. hilarious beyond belief

JohnnyChavello
07-26-2014, 09:29 AM
Spoiler (http://theboombox.com/beastie-boys-jerry-lewis/)

Wow, completely different samples. I swear I read something in 33 1/3 about that Wilson Pickett song.

Is the Dino, Desi and Billy song online anywhere?

cj hood
07-26-2014, 12:00 PM
What's with that other KMD that Yauch loved? Couldn't find any info online...

MCScoobyT
07-26-2014, 01:00 PM
looks like Mike (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152587861021737&set=a.299439966736.147606.819411736&type=1&theater) is in possession of the lost songs now and since they have been found I bet they do make the memoirs!

3stooges
07-26-2014, 01:37 PM
What's with that other KMD that Yauch loved? Couldn't find any info online...

Not sure if it is, but I have heard people refer to Kool Moe Dee as "KMD" a few times. Usually really old school people who never listened to Peachfuzz etc..

JohnnyChavello
07-26-2014, 01:47 PM
looks like Mike (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152587861021737&set=a.299439966736.147606.819411736&type=1&theater) is in possession of the lost songs now and since they have been found I bet they do make the memoirs!

Oh, shit. Yeah, I'm sure they'll put that stuff to good use.

3stooges
07-26-2014, 01:51 PM
looks like Mike (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152587861021737&set=a.299439966736.147606.819411736&type=1&theater) is in possession of the lost songs now and since they have been found I bet they do make the memoirs!

I wouldn't be so sure. I guess it's possible but they seem to have a pretty tight quality control over releasing demos and unreleased stuff. My impression is that if they didn't think it was good then, they will feel the same way now. Plus with Yauch being gone now I don't know if they want to make that decision without him. As an artist that's one of the things you do, is edit yourself. You don't want every little thing you've ever done coming out for people to see. That's what the wastebasket is for.

I guess there is the possibility that they haven't heard it in 25 years, and they listen to it, and go "Oh shit, this is good!" But I think the more likely reality is that if it was actually good, it would have been already released in one form or another. Add to that the fact that it was the very first stuff they supposedly did in beginning work on that album, and I would be very surprised if it wasn't anything more than just some very rough, sloppy, unpolished, freestyle sounding jams. As opposed to what you hear on Paul's Boutique, which are songs that they worked on for months and months, and re-wrote and re-recorded multiple times over and over, to get just how they wanted. They worked and worked and worked on those recordings.

JohnnyChavello
07-26-2014, 02:00 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. I guess it's possible but they seem to have a pretty tight quality control over releasing demos and unreleased stuff. My impression is that if they didn't think it was good then, they will feel the same way now. Plus with Yauch being gone now I don't know if they want to make that decision without him. As an artist that's one of the things you do, is edit yourself. You don't want every little thing you've ever done coming out for people to see. That's what the wastebasket is for.

I guess there is the possibility that they haven't heard it in 25 years, and they listen to it, and go "Oh shit, this is good!" But I think the more likely reality is that if it was actually good, it would have been already released in one form or another. Add to that the fact that it was the very first stuff they supposedly did in beginning work on that album, and I would be very surprised if it wasn't anything more than just some very rough, sloppy, unpolished, freestyle sounding jams. As opposed to what you hear on Paul's Boutique, which are songs that they worked on for months and months, and re-wrote and re-recorded multiple times over and over, to get just how they wanted. They worked and worked and worked on those recordings.

Mike was big on the whole Beatles Anthology and that's exactly what that was - outtakes, demos, unreleased songs, a new song, live clips, interviews - they basically emptied out their archives. At a certain point, particularly if they're moving on, it makes sense to release stuff like that whether you think it's the greatest thing you've ever done or not.

3stooges
07-26-2014, 02:37 PM
Mike was big on the whole Beatles Anthology and that's exactly what that was - outtakes, demos, unreleased songs, a new song, live clips, interviews - they basically emptied out their archives. At a certain point, particularly if they're moving on, it makes sense to release stuff like that whether you think it's the greatest thing you've ever done or not.

I understand about moving on. But I don't think you're gonna get the level of quality out of Beastie archives that you'd get out of the Beatles. The Beasties relied a lot more on in-studio production to get where they wanted to be, to finish writing a song.

Lennon, for example, would write a song, and then he'd just sit down in his living room, record it on a tape recorder or whatever, and it would be great. Sure they would produce it big time in the studio, but it was great already.

Matchstikk
07-26-2014, 03:26 PM
They put out a track of basketball sounds on the HN reissue. I have a feeling we'll hear some more archived stuff, eventually.

pesto pizza
07-27-2014, 01:40 AM
kinda wanna hold out for the paperback, but im afraid my will is not that strong...

when is the paperback out?

Brother McDuff
07-27-2014, 12:51 PM
when is the paperback out?

website says august, but no specified day unfortunately

silence7
07-30-2014, 12:56 AM
website says august, but no specified day unfortunately


I asked on twitter and got this.

@beastiemixes Yep, paperback version should be available by mid-to-late August from @6623Press .

beasties#1fan
08-05-2014, 01:02 PM
waiting for the paperback #oldskool;)

coreyisking711
08-12-2014, 11:41 AM
link to a podcast where Dan LeRoy is interviewed about the book. a couple interesting moments in here, especially when they discuss Dan hearing the Jerry Lewis single and how the Dust Bros feel that they still don't receive proper credit for their work on the album. other than that, nothing really new here but still enjoyable to hear the author discuss the work.

https://soundcloud.com/chromebills/cb56-pauls-boutique-interview-feat-dan-leroy

abbott
08-13-2014, 02:20 PM
thought this was cool ad using PB
reference...


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=860701657281279&set=a.103905266294259.7860.100000243585588&type=1&relevant_count=1

Brother McDuff
10-14-2014, 11:07 PM
anyone have any juice on whether or not this is still gonna get a hardcopy run? been saving the read for a physical copy but i can only restrain myself so long... sheesh

Jiberish
10-16-2014, 04:11 PM
anyone have any juice on whether or not this is still gonna get a hardcopy run? been saving the read for a physical copy but i can only restrain myself so long... sheesh

I'm with ya man. I want to put that shit on my book shelf, and actually hold it in my hands while I read it. I'm planning on writing an e-mail directly to the source to find out when/if there will be a hardcover.

I'll let you know if anything happens

FUTURE EDIT: nothing happened.

JohnnyChavello
10-17-2014, 07:49 AM
FUTURE EDIT: nothing happened.

Nice. I'm going to use this in my daily life.

Brother McDuff
10-17-2014, 10:05 AM
I'm with ya man. I want to put that shit on my book shelf, and actually hold it in my hands while I read it. I'm planning on writing an e-mail directly to the source to find out when/if there will be a hardcover.

I'll let you know if anything happens

FUTURE EDIT: nothing happened.


haha, thanks for the update (y)

Jiberish
10-18-2014, 06:56 AM
I went onto the tweet machine to send leRoy a message. After I sent my message I poked around on his page and saw these two tweets:

Matt Horowitz ‏@SharpCheddar856 Oct 16

@6623Press @danleroy hey guys, any idea when the hardback "For Whom The Cowbell Tolls" will be out? Can't wait!!! ha #PaulsBoutique #BEASTIE


Dan LeRoy ‏@danleroy Oct 16

@SharpCheddar856 @6623Press Hey Matt: We're shooting for end of next week for the paperback. Watch this space for an official announcement!!

So... 6623 Press is apparently attempting to put it out next week.

Brother McDuff
10-18-2014, 10:35 AM
right on, thanks mang

Jiberish
10-18-2014, 10:54 AM
That's what I'm here for. Right now, right here. It's all leading up to this moment. etc.

aka: no problem.

Kid Presentable
10-18-2014, 09:41 PM
Nice sleuthing, Jibs. I completely forgot about this book.

Jiberish
10-19-2014, 01:22 PM
Dan LeRoy @danleroy


@JBGarlicBread I'm looking at galleys right this minute. Fingers crossed, hoping to start selling thru Amazon by week's end. Updates here!


Double confirmed. We should have a physical book soon.

Laver1969
10-20-2014, 05:22 AM
Excellent. I've been holding out for the hard copy too!

abbott
10-20-2014, 05:22 PM
I'll have a hard copy

Jiberish
11-10-2014, 12:48 PM
Dan LeRoy ‏@danleroy 1d1 day ago

@PaulsBoutiqueVC @SharpCheddar856 @JBGarlicBread @brad_d_ @icyjones + all others who inquired: wanted to let you know first, paperbacks out!

Sir SkratchaLot
11-10-2014, 01:08 PM
Jyeah! Not on Amazon yet though.

Jiberish
11-11-2014, 09:11 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Whom-Cowbell-Tolls-Years-Boutique/dp/0692262377/ref=la_B001JS9BMA_1_3_title_1_pap?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1415641997&sr=1-3

Laver1969
11-12-2014, 01:05 PM
Thanks! Just ordered.

JoLovesMCA
11-12-2014, 01:17 PM
WOW this is mine! We didn't get a proper era for this, nice to see stuff like this come out!

paulb
11-12-2014, 02:37 PM
Just ordered too! Cant wait to learn more about this era.

beasties#1fan
11-13-2014, 02:25 AM
def excited to read

Sir SkratchaLot
01-07-2015, 12:48 PM
(I could have sworn I posted this yesterday but anyway) I just picked up the paperback copy of for Whom the Cowbell Tolls. I was pleasantly surprised to see pictures in this book! They're black and white in the print version. Does the e-version have color pictures? Can't wait to read it.

Jiberish
01-08-2015, 06:42 AM
I have to admit... I didn't really like this book very much. (I got it for xmas and finished it that night, the next day(?). There were two, maybe three chapters that were worth reading and honestly one of them was only kind of interesting, and it should have been mind-blowing. (I don't want to spoil it for the not-yet-reads on here)

There was one chapter that was just incredibly lazy and boring beyond measure.

The music business section was also kind of cool. I mean, I learned some stuff. But ultimately I didn't need this book, and I'm not sure I'll ever crack it open again.

Maybe I was just too excited for it, and in hindsight it'll have been worth my time. I dunno. I'm glad other people are digging it. I'll just go back to re-reading his first book on PB every other year or so.

Brother McDuff
01-08-2015, 07:48 PM
agreed. i commend Dan Leroy for his work, but there is just too little info spread across too many pages. coulda been edited down to a single chapter and appended to the 33 1/3 in later reissues. dont understand how less info = more pages in comparison to the 33 1/3. part of me feels a little had, but i ultimately dont regret reading it i guess

Jiberish
01-09-2015, 09:47 AM
agreed. i commend Dan Leroy for his work, but there is just too little info spread across too many pages. coulda been edited down to a single chapter and appended to the 33 1/3 in later reissues. dont understand how less info = more pages in comparison to the 33 1/3. part of me feels a little had, but i ultimately dont regret reading it i guess

Yeah. Pretty much that. ^

coreyisking711
02-09-2015, 04:22 PM
was bored at work today and was browsing the book on the kindle app on my phone. there's the chapter about the group KMD that influenced the Beastie Boys' sound towards the end of recording PB/start of CYH, and it is noted in the book that KMD's demo album is pretty much impossible to find and very few have heard it. while still bored at work, I did some pretty minimal googling and found that someone's uploaded snippets of the album to youtube.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA_snT3AgZs

Phantom Menace
02-09-2015, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the link. It kills.

I love that demo! It's better than anything they released. Wow, really great stuff. Do you know what year it was released?

Kid Presentable
02-09-2015, 09:40 PM
was bored at work today and was browsing the book on the kindle app on my phone. there's the chapter about the group KMD that influenced the Beastie Boys' sound towards the end of recording PB/start of CYH, and it is noted in the book that KMD's demo album is pretty much impossible to find and very few have heard it. while still bored at work, I did some pretty minimal googling and found that someone's uploaded snippets of the album to youtube.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA_snT3AgZs

This is crisp.

Jiberish
02-10-2015, 06:52 AM
was bored at work today and was browsing the book on the kindle app on my phone. there's the chapter about the group KMD that influenced the Beastie Boys' sound towards the end of recording PB/start of CYH, and it is noted in the book that KMD's demo album is pretty much impossible to find and very few have heard it. while still bored at work, I did some pretty minimal googling and found that someone's uploaded snippets of the album to youtube.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA_snT3AgZs

Nice find! Just to clarify though KMD was the MC. KMD the group is the band that Zev Love X aka MF DOOM came out of. Different dudes.

coreyisking711
02-10-2015, 08:05 AM
Right, KMD was the MC and his DJ was Rock Master Shock, but the book makes it sound like they were going under the name KMD before Doom

Jiberish
02-10-2015, 08:22 AM
That was probably the best chapter in the whole book.

JohnnyChavello
02-10-2015, 10:03 AM
was bored at work today and was browsing the book on the kindle app on my phone. there's the chapter about the group KMD that influenced the Beastie Boys' sound towards the end of recording PB/start of CYH, and it is noted in the book that KMD's demo album is pretty much impossible to find and very few have heard it. while still bored at work, I did some pretty minimal googling and found that someone's uploaded snippets of the album to youtube.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA_snT3AgZs

That first song on the demo is the Engine #9 Wilson Pickett sample Max Perlich thought was one of the shelved Paul's Boutique tracks.

Bernard Goetz
02-10-2015, 12:42 PM
Excerpt here:
http://www.egotripland.com/beastie-boys-book-for-whom-the-cowbell-tolls-25-years-of-pauls-boutique-kmd/

Sir SkratchaLot
02-11-2015, 10:00 AM
Excerpt here:
http://www.egotripland.com/beastie-boys-book-for-whom-the-cowbell-tolls-25-years-of-pauls-boutique-kmd/

Anyone think that's really Mike D in the comments? Could be.

Jiberish
02-11-2015, 11:27 AM
I like the visual image of him signing in to comment on an article about his band.:cool::D But I highly doubt it's him.

Micodin
02-11-2015, 09:00 PM
Anyone think that's really Mike D in the comments? Could be.

Actually it sounds like something he would say. It fits.

Sir SkratchaLot
02-12-2015, 09:09 AM
Actually it sounds like something he would say. It fits.

I was thinking

(a) its Ego Trip, a well respected publication within hip hop circles I can easily see Mike reading and commenting on something Ego Trip publishes.

(b) That's a pretty insightful as far as the source for the inspiration. You'd have to be a megafan with some fairly deep knowledge of hip hop to fake a comment like that.

Wouldn't suprise me one bit if that is Mike D's true comment.

Sir SkratchaLot
02-12-2015, 09:10 AM
Also, nobody ever answered my question about the pictures. Does the e-book version have the pictures? If so are they in color?

Phantom Menace
02-12-2015, 12:59 PM
That first song on the demo is the Engine #9 Wilson Pickett sample Max Perlich thought was one of the shelved Paul's Boutique tracks.

Wilson Pickett! Now I know why I instantly loved that demo, I should of known. Pikett turned one of the whitest songs ever recorded into a funk masterpiece, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI.

Jiberish
02-12-2015, 03:39 PM
Wilson Pickett! Now I know why I instantly loved that demo, I should of known. Pikett turned one of the whitest songs ever recorded into a funk masterpiece, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI.

I've never heard that cover before, I liked it. I think Ghostface may have sampled that intro for Child's Play off of Supreme Clientele.

MCScoobyT
02-14-2015, 08:24 PM
Also, nobody ever answered my question about the pictures. Does the e-book version have the pictures? If so are they in color?

Yes and yes

Sir SkratchaLot
02-15-2015, 08:23 PM
Yes and yes

Thanks mang.

Sir SkratchaLot
03-30-2015, 05:04 AM
Finally got time to read this and really liked it. It was pretty cool in that it was more about non-Beastie Boys surrounding the album. The chapter about Capital Records was pretty insightful. The "fan" chapters were my least favorite. What I'd really like to see one day is a track by track breakdown of the technical aspects of recording, sampling, etc. That would be dope.