Originally Posted by Bill Moyers

...[S]upporters who want to scrap the present system for fundamental change are staring glumly through the fog of war at a battlefield in total disarray. They fear that in the White House's desire to get a bill -- any bill -- passed by Congress, it will have been so compromised, so bent to favor the big interests, that it will be less Waterloo than water down, a steady diluting of what they'd hoped for, or America needs.

Originally Posted by saz (Post 1688174)

michele bachmann? are you serious? hahahahahahahahahahahaah!

Originally Posted by DroppinScience (Post 1688208)

But don't worry, he's always been a "lifelong financially conservative Democrat."

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688333)

as long as you realize the difference between "conservative democrat" and "republican".

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688414)

Although, coming from such a regular folk I'm guessing this minor accolade doesn't really mean anything, so I guess I apologize for wasting your time having to read it.

Originally Posted by Schmeltz (Post 1688461)

Actually the reason it doesn't mean anything is because it's coming from the guy who copied and pasted a post from another forum and tried to pass it off as the product of his own tireless research.

Seriously, did this just pass everyone by? What Robmoney did on page 2 of this thread, which I called him out for? Does nobody else think that his credibility took a massive hit there? Does nobody else think that this makes it much more difficult to respect or take seriously anything he has to say?

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Friend --

It seems like the 1993 health care debate all over again. Back then, I led the charge for comprehensive health insurance reform. I fought tooth and nail to get it done, keenly aware that millions of Americans were living in fear that a serious illness or injury could spell economic disaster for their families. Americans needed health care reform then and we urgently need it now.

But, just as I did in 1993, President Obama has run into a buzz saw of special interest opposition to his top domestic policy priority -- health care reform. He is facing off against some of the most powerful special interests in Washington who've launched a furious campaign to preserve the status quo.

Simply put, they're at it again. That's why I'm calling on you to stand with President Obama and the DCCC in fighting for change right now. The DCCC is united in their Health Care Reform Now campaign and is trying to raise $250,000 in grassroots donations before their deadline at midnight tonight.

Contribute $5, $10, or more tonight before our deadline at MIDNIGHT and your gift will be matched dollar-for-dollar.

Legislation that would lower health care costs for everyone, improve the quality of care, preserve choice and provide more coverage options for American families was introduced in the House last month - just as Speaker Pelosi promised.

But a U.S. health care system that makes quality care affordable for everyone is going to take a lot of hard work from all of us.

Your immediate response is essential because Republicans are waging a fierce assault on President Obama's health care initiative and on Democratic Members of Congress fighting to reform health care now.

Republicans have made a political calculation that they'd rather attack Congressional Democrats with sound bites and misleading characterizations of the President's health care reform plan than work on behalf of the American people.

It's up to us to prevent the Republican Party and their special interest backers from doing whatever they can to prevent this historic opportunity to make quality health care affordable and accessible to all.

Please make your next contribution to the DCCC a generous one...and please be sure to give before midnight tonight.

Thank you,
Bill Clinton

P.S. Remember that any size contribution you can make to the DCCC will be matched dollar-for-dollar. So, if you are able, now is an ideal time to step up your support of President Obama's change agenda.

Originally Posted by kaiser soze (Post 1688526)

I do remember dorothy wood calling him out on plagiarism as well.

I'm not surprised considering he's not a campus fuck face so plagiarism is not in his dictionary.

better to be a campus fuckface rather than a fucking fake :)

Originally Posted by DroppinScience (Post 1688469)

Well, his credibility has been shot for quite some time. It's a thankless job trying to talk truth to stupid, but somebody's gotta do it.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688606)

This is the internet, fuckface.
Not college.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688608)

Who are you calling stupid?

You're gay, dude.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but you're twenty something years old and you haven't figured it out yet.
It's beyond sad at this point.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688625)

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

Originally Posted by QueenAdrock (Post 1688632)

He fucks quite well for a fag. (y)

Originally Posted by saz (Post 1688637)

what's interesting is that rob keeps going on about "socialized medicine" or whatever, when obama actually just wants to create a public health insurance option, to compete with private health insurance companies, so people can pick and choose between the two, or remain with private insurance if they already have it.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688625)

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688642)

HAHAHAA, Oh man, I remember when I believed everything the government told me. Kids...

Curious Saz, have you seen the youtube footage of Obama stating that he's in favor of a single-payer option?

http://brainshavings.com/2009/08/vid...upporting.html


How long do you think employers will continue to offer to pay for a large portion of a private healthcare plan when there's a Gov't run plan that you can be put on that'll cost them nothing.
I know I don't have to illustrate the level of greed that exists in corporate america.

Originally Posted by saz (Post 1688647)

anyways, you didn't answer my question about the clintons.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688651)

I must have really struck a nerve with that homosexual theory.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

Who are you calling stupid?

You're gay, dude.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688651)

I'm going the "ignore" route with you for a while.

Originally Posted by RobMoney$ (Post 1688629)

When I see anyone employing tactics the Nazi's used, no matter how benign, I shout it from the fucking rooftops.

Don't want to be compared to Nazi's? Don't do shit that they did.
Simple.