Formula One 2009 season (F1)

[Adam]

Soooooooooo, Melbourne this weekend

Who do you think is gonna win this years championship?
Who do you hope dies in fiery crash? (not nice btw)
Who is gonna take the constructors championship?

[TAL]

I stopped watching many years ago when they decided that you have to pay to see it live on tv.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TAL

I stopped watching many years ago when they decided that you have to pay to see it live on tv.

I don't have a TV and I've always managed to find a live stream. Plus I think its on the [so called] free channels in the UK

[Gareth]

i wish i was in melbourne for this
and just to live there generally

[Guy Incognito]

from what's coming out of mclaren, lewis hamilton has got more chance of being on the next pussycat dolls record than retaining the title.

my money is on the fin in the ferrari, i know they will be pushing massa but i reckon kimi will be more consistent, he had some bad luck last season

[Adam]

I voted Massa cus I think he will. But I really like Kimi, he just seems in control of what he does and its always outside forces which stop him from winning more.

I do think it'll be the first of the european GPs until we start to have a clue who will be the contenders this season

[mikizee]

What's coming out of mclaren?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mikizee

What's coming out of mclaren?

Hamilton was 18th in 2nd Practice. Also, he was overheard on the radio (should of been private) that he can't see breaking points cus the car is too low.

[camo]

I've heard that Mclaren this year are...ah fuck it who am I kidding F1 is absolutely bobbins!

[scotty]

It'll be between Raikkonen and Massa, I'm leaning toward Kimi, though. I just like him better than Massa. So Ferrari for constructors as well.

Oh, and I hope Ecclestone dies in a fiery shitball of doom

[NoFenders]

+1

Another vote for Kimi.

I stayed up to watch practice last night.The cars are taking some getting used to for me. Just odd looking.

Qualies should be interesting. Go Ferrari!!!

[Adam]

Jenson Button on poll???!?!?! And Barrichello 2nd? Is Brawn really that good? Or has he cheated and paid of the timer guys.

[NoFenders]

lol You sure would think so.

What a great effort from Brawn. Most are saying it's due to the areo works done to the bottom of the car. Some sort of diffusser under the lower rear. Adds more downforce to the rear that has been taken off from the new rule change with the wings. There's like three teams that run that set up, and Brawn took it and ran with it.

They're giving us fuel data now (which is sweet) so we know howm many laps of fuel everyone has. Here's a taste.
Button and Rubens : 22 to 23 laps of fuel
Vettel and Nico : 20 laps of fuel
Ferrari : 18 laps of fuel

Doesn't look good for Ferrari. We'll see if Brawn's engines don't grenade though.

Can't wait for the start!!

[Adam]

It actually started an hour earlier than I thought, lucky I couldn't sleep so I caught it from about the 3rd lap.

Holy shit - just realised the clocks went forward!

edit: Brawn first & second!!! Maybe I should edit my poll

[Tzar]

definately an unexpected result if we were talking about this event 3 months ago. who woulda thought a brand new team would kill qualifying as well as the race. i saw the betting odds before practice started and it showed Button at the top (lowest odds) and thought 'that can't be right?'. sir dick branson certainly is having the last laugh now. cunt never puts a foot wrong.

either way it was fairly ordinary race. no huge standouts. kubica+vettel crash at the end was a bit but other than that, melbourne isn't the most exciting tracks out. it's more about the atmosphere and backdrop.


go kimi (for the rest of the year)

[mikizee]

Massa looked pissed off when he was back in the garage. I'm going for Massa this year. However I think Button deserved that win, he has been a promising and talented driver for quite a few years now and Honda has given him such a shit car for the last few years and his talent has been wasted.

Now that he's in a car that compliments his talent, there may be no stopping him!

[Guy Incognito]

call me cynical but i reckon brawn have got the big boys back up by winning early on, i reckon there will be some sort of backlash/dispute where brawn end up getting penailsed for something ferrari or whoever object to at some point this season.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

call me cynical but i reckon brawn have got the big boys back up by winning early on, i reckon there will be some sort of backlash/dispute where brawn end up getting penailsed for something ferrari or whoever object to at some point this season.

When Honda quit, they had already had a 2009 car that they have been building for 2 years. Also, they gave back office (and I still think are) services to offer a major support to the new team. Gotta give Honda some credit for that. And obviously some1 like Brawn has the best contacts in the sport, has two experienced drivers who didn't have a job a few months ago so they'll be up for it to.

[Guy Incognito]

Originally Posted by Adam

When Honda quit, they had already had a 2009 car that they have been building for 2 years. Also, they gave back office (and I still think are) services to offer a major support to the new team. Gotta give Honda some credit for that. And obviously some1 like Brawn has the best contacts in the sport, has two experienced drivers who didn't have a job a few months ago so they'll be up for it to.

fair enough i just get the impression that the big boys dont like anyone upsetting their party, regardless of who it is

[trailerprincess]

BBC coverage was ace.

[NoFenders]

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

call me cynical but i reckon brawn have got the big boys back up by winning early on, i reckon there will be some sort of backlash/dispute where brawn end up getting penailsed for something ferrari or whoever object to at some point this season.

Well, there's the whole diffuser debate. Although Brawn's cars looked more legal in that area than the other teams who used them. The grey area in F1 rules should be used and taken advantage of. Good on Brawn to be the genius he is to pull that far ahead of the field. I mean, nobody had a chance to catch Button. If Rubens had a better start, he'd have kept 2nd place as well. Him finishing 2nd was a gift from Kubica and Vettel knocking each other out, which I think, was certainly Kubica's fault. Sebastian left all the room he could , but Robert closed the door on'im.

All in all I thought it was a good race. No points for Ferrari sucks ass (I bet Massa's KERS system went out), and Hamilton finsihing on the podium makes me cringe even more. But seeing Brawn in a one two finish was well worth staying up til 3:30AM.

Now Malaysia this week! What's very interesting about this season is there's no more practice for any teams. So if anyone like Ferrari or McLaren want to try a diffuser, they'll have to see what it does on GP weekend. That could leave a lot of room for Button to win every race before the Euro leg of the sched. I know it's only one race in, but this may be Button's best shot at a Championship.

[NoFenders]

Vettel gets 10 grid spot penalty. BULLSHIT!!!
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=45387

[mikizee]

And this....



Which is funny cos the girl I'm seeing was over and we were watching it and we were both a little drunk. This girl has never watched F1 before. But then all of a sudden she jumps up (I wasn't really paying attention) and goes 'Trulli can't be in third!! He overtook on the yellow!!! Hamilton is third!! HAMILTON SHOULD BE THIIIIRRDD!!'

All the while I'm thinking 'shutup lady you don't even know whats going on you don't even watch F1'

Turns out she was 100% correct. Heh.

[Burnout18]

Originally Posted by NoFenders

Vettel gets 10 grid spot penalty. BULLSHIT!!!
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=45387

yea that really is bullshit,,,, it almost looked like kubica turned into him after initial contact..... although that was prolly just him losing control.....

But hey, looks like we are going to have more competition this year.

[NoFenders]

Originally Posted by mikizee

And this....



Which is funny cos the girl I'm seeing was over and we were watching it and we were both a little drunk. This girl has never watched F1 before. But then all of a sudden she jumps up (I wasn't really paying attention) and goes 'Trulli can't be in third!! He overtook on the yellow!!! Hamilton is third!! HAMILTON SHOULD BE THIIIIRRDD!!'

All the while I'm thinking 'shutup lady you don't even know whats going on you don't even watch F1'

Turns out she was 100% correct. Heh.

She should have a job with the FIA. These guys are getting worse by the race. Same thing when Kazu hit the wall. Safety car comes out, and they have no clue as to who is running where on track. They start waving people past the Safety Car and Massa comes by again and puts his hands up (to say, where do you want me?). They had no idea. It took another two laps under SC to figure it out.

These guys and their after GP decisions are getting old.

[Adam]

Hamilton has been disqualified from the Aus Race

[Tzar]

Originally Posted by mikizee

And this....



Which is funny cos the girl I'm seeing was over and we were watching it and we were both a little drunk. This girl has never watched F1 before. But then all of a sudden she jumps up (I wasn't really paying attention) and goes 'Trulli can't be in third!! He overtook on the yellow!!! Hamilton is third!! HAMILTON SHOULD BE THIIIIRRDD!!'

All the while I'm thinking 'shutup lady you don't even know whats going on you don't even watch F1'

Turns out she was 100% correct. Heh.

probably should marry her.

[Guy Incognito]

its all a fucking joke - looks like every fucker is at fault and they should give trulli third , hamilton fourth and act like it never happened.

Its all bent.

I hope this doesnt set a precedent for every fuckin contentious decision to be deliberated, and have claims and counter claims days after each race.

might as well have a fucking phone vote to decide it.

its a joke, the whole thing.

[mikizee]

wow yep i agree

[Guy Incognito]

now hamiltons been fined for summat in qualifying and still runs risk of getting kicked out of the whole thing. what a big bag of bollocks