Ex-Prodigy disses Beastie Boys

[kingcrimson024]

I find it interesting when the Beastie Boys project themselves as moralists, yet openly disrespect Jesus Christ and any form of Bible related morality. I do not mean to start a theological debate, however to argue what is right and wrong from your own world view and expect it to be the medium for all humans is hypocritical at best. Morals without God is empty and meaningless, and never brings about truth or enlightenment for that matter. If the Beastie Boys want to do what is right, then they should just do it, rather than waste energy removing a speck from the eye of another man when they too are just as lost as the next. Free Tibet? How about the fact that people in China,India, and the Middle East TODAY are killed for believing in Christ? Man is responsible for his own actions and thoughts, don't rebuttal this statement with examples of horrific things that men have done in the name of God, please dig a little bit deeper than that. I love the beasties, so please don't think I'm just spraying nonsense here, its just an observation based on morals and the post modern worlds lack of "telos" (Purpose of existence).

[JoLovesMCA]

Originally Posted by kingcrimson024

I find it interesting when the Beastie Boys project themselves as moralists, yet openly disrespect Jesus Christ and any form of Bible related morality. I do not mean to start a theological debate, however to argue what is right and wrong from your own world view and expect it to be the medium for all humans is hypocritical at best. Morals without God is empty and meaningless, and never brings about truth or enlightenment for that matter. If the Beastie Boys want to do what is right, then they should just do it, rather than waste energy removing a speck from the eye of another man when they too are just as lost as the next. Free Tibet? How about the fact that people in China,India, and the Middle East TODAY are killed for believing in Christ? Man is responsible for his own actions and thoughts, don't rebuttal this statement with examples of horrific things that men have done in the name of God, please dig a little bit deeper than that. I love the beasties, so please don't think I'm just spraying nonsense here, its just an observation based on morals and the post modern worlds lack of "telos" (Purpose of existence).

Well I can't argue with you there. Would be a good question to ask them I guess why is the defense for Tibet so different compared to helping Christians who were persecuted. I mean the BB's aren't perfect anyway, they might be questioning and searching things out themselves. Anyway good points you made.

[yeahwho]

Originally Posted by kingcrimson024

I find it interesting when the Beastie Boys project themselves as moralists, yet openly disrespect Jesus Christ and any form of Bible related morality. I do not mean to start a theological debate, however to argue what is right and wrong from your own world view and expect it to be the medium for all humans is hypocritical at best. Morals without God is empty and meaningless, and never brings about truth or enlightenment for that matter (Purpose of existence).

You set the criteria for a higher power. A man made decision of judgment on your own man made belief system.

I disagree that morals without (your conception of god) are empty and meaningless. Truth and enlightenment are all around those who choose to seek truth and enlightenment.

You've made a judgment call based on Bible related morality. That would be considered hypocritical at best by well over a few billion earthlings who also believe in a power greater than themselves.

Live and Let Live.

[kingcrimson024]

Originally Posted by yeahwho

You set the criteria for a higher power. A man made decision of judgment on your own man made belief system.

I disagree that morals without (your conception of god) are empty and meaningless. Truth and enlightenment are all around those who choose to seek truth and enlightenment.

You've made a judgment call based on Bible related morality. That would be considered hypocritical at best by well over a few billion earthlings who also believe in a power greater than themselves.

Live and Let Live.

I do not buy into the post modern illusion that truth is relative and not absolute. Morals based on the assumptions and criteria of each individual and how they perceive it is fundamentally flawed. By that method you are setting the foundation on inevitable hypocrisy. You claim that my beliefs are man made, and that is insulting. However, this life as human beings is a gift with a purpose and meaning. Each soul is not without intrinsic value. To make gross accusations that the Prophets and Christ are fabrications conjured by men is wildly inaccurate and ignorant of historical and spiritual truth. Your right about there being billions of humans who reject it, the path to salvation is narrow but the path to wickedness is wide. I pray that all will come to him, especially those who hate what he has to say. The truth will set you free. "The stone which the builders rejected, This became the chief corner stone;...."

[yeahwho]

Your judgment of others is man made, that is the crux. You've posted on here your beliefs and that they are the only way.

You make me want to run from whatever version of Christ you are selling.

What you know about anyone here on this board is a preconceived notion. Yet you've decided to chide and judge with a dogma that actually hinders your intended result, to have folks become enlightened through the Bible.

Smite away. Seems like that is your favorite part of Christianity. Unless you have some other sort of form to attract people to your beliefs how the fuck are you going to ever achieve the goal God wants?

Being kind is not a character defect, a loving God would see that as an asset. You made a judgment and I made a judgment back. Man made both of them. If you think God is speaking through you and not me then perhaps you've judged billions of others too, on a daily basis.

[kingcrimson024]

Originally Posted by yeahwho

Your judgment of others is man made, that is the crux. You've posted on here your beliefs and that they are the only way.

You make me want to run from whatever version of Christ you are selling.

What you know about anyone here on this board is a preconceived notion. Yet you've decided to chide and judge with a dogma that actually hinders your intended result, to have folks become enlightened through the Bible.

Smite away. Seems like that is your favorite part of Christianity. Unless you have some other sort of form to attract people to your beliefs how the fuck are you going to ever achieve the goal God wants?

Being kind is not a character defect, a loving God would see that as an asset. You made a judgment and I made a judgment back. Man made both of them. If you think God is speaking through you and not me then perhaps you've judged billions of others too, on a daily basis.

This is the same old argument once again. When anybody mentions the Prophets or Christ the immediate response is "stop judging". I didn't even say anything about judging, and why would I when I'm just as lost as the next man. All I speak of is the word of God and not my words, so please stop judging me. I can not pretend that the scriptures are lies written been men as easily as you my friend. You can not play the role of the moralist with out running into the source, eventually it is inevitable, for through Adam we all surely die. I never said my teachings are the only way, those words come from Christ. He is the truth and the light.

[yeahwho]

I would like to ride around town on a bicycle built for two with you. We can wear straw hats and sing songs as we peddle away down the street our merry way, greeting people with biblical stories wearing our pin stripe shirts with bicycle knickers on.

Perhaps someone will offer us some freshly baked apple pie and lemonade.

[kingcrimson024]

Originally Posted by yeahwho

I would like to ride around town on a bicycle built for two with you. We can wear straw hats and sing songs as we peddle away down the street our merry way, greeting people with biblical stories wearing our pin stripe shirts with bicycle knickers on.

Perhaps someone will offer us some freshly baked apple pie and lemonade.

You read my mind. haha nice....

[SoundScientist]

From my experience, and just reading about history and war etc...religion has always and will always cause more problems than it can ever possibly fix. It is entirely possible to be a good person and have good morals without believing in any form of religion. Really. Just my opinion, but I've believed that since I was a kid in high school taking world religions classes. You just realize how hypocritical the whole religious community can be.

Originally Posted by kingcrimson024

I find it interesting when the Beastie Boys project themselves as moralists, yet openly disrespect Jesus Christ and any form of Bible related morality. I do not mean to start a theological debate, however to argue what is right and wrong from your own world view and expect it to be the medium for all humans is hypocritical at best. Morals without God is empty and meaningless, and never brings about truth or enlightenment for that matter. If the Beastie Boys want to do what is right, then they should just do it, rather than waste energy removing a speck from the eye of another man when they too are just as lost as the next. Free Tibet? How about the fact that people in China,India, and the Middle East TODAY are killed for believing in Christ? Man is responsible for his own actions and thoughts, don't rebuttal this statement with examples of horrific things that men have done in the name of God, please dig a little bit deeper than that. I love the beasties, so please don't think I'm just spraying nonsense here, its just an observation based on morals and the post modern worlds lack of "telos" (Purpose of existence).

[MCAadROCKMiKEd7]

Originally Posted by SoundScientist

From my experience, and just reading about history and war etc...religion has always and will always cause more problems than it can ever possibly fix. It is entirely possible to be a good person and have good morals without believing in any form of religion. Really. Just my opinion, but I've believed that since I was a kid in high school taking world religions classes. You just realize how hypocritical the whole religious community can be.

The religious community is so hypocritical, I have a hard time debating it. I'm completely unsure about my religion, and also think to be a good person doesnt require religion, some people have strong belief in a religion (Some people have it as guidance) Some people dont. I personally dont want to invest my time into a religion when i'm not quite sure what I believe. Stuff is very complex. For the most part i've come to find that i'm more Agnostic than anything. I was starting to get into the Methodist religion for a while influenced by my parents growing up, but as i've gotten older, my mind has shifted.

[fonky pizza]

In my experience, no matter what the religion you feel you belong to or what discipline you are into or not into, you 'll always find fanatics addicetd to their opinions and beliefs, but you may also find people who are explorative with constructive criticism.

[Myu-to]

Hi, don't mind me, I'm just here for some cheese and crackers.

[fonky pizza]

O-furo wa doko desu ka?

[MCAadROCKMiKEd7]

Originally Posted by Myu-to

Hi, don't mind me, I'm just here for some cheese and crackers.

I'm lactose intolerant. D:

[fonky pizza]

Originally Posted by MCAadROCKMiKEd7

I'm lactose intolerant. D:

but I can't stop eating cheese...

[fonky pizza]

Originally Posted by kingcrimson024

I find it NOTinteresting when the Beastie Boys project themselves as moralists, yet openly disrespect Jesus Christ and any form of Bible related morality. I do not mean to start a theological debate, however to argue what is right and wrong from your own world view and expect it to be the medium for all humans is hypocritical at best. Morals without God is empty and meaningless, and never brings about truth or enlightenment for that matter. If the Beastie Boys want to do what is right, then they should just do it, rather than waste energy removing a speck from the eye of another man when they too are just as lost as the next. Free Tibet? How about the fact that people in China,India, and the Middle East TODAY are killed for believing in Christ? Man is responsible for his own actions and thoughts, don't rebuttal this statement with examples of horrific things that men have done in the name of God, please dig a little bit deeper than that. I love the beasties, so please don't think I'm just spraying nonsense here, its just an observation based on morals and the post modern worlds lack of "telos" (Purpose of existence).

I am intolerant to this 100% all american bullshit.

[fonky pizza]

I am even more intolerant to any type of violence against women.

The Bibble?

A book written by a bunch of men for a bunch of men!

[Guy Incognito]

cos i just mentioned it another thread and i cant be arsed linking it