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Agreed for the whole thread. That is all any of us are doing here, speculating and stating opinions, unless any of us knew them personally, then we don’t really know. And even if you did know them well, you still might not really know the full story.
But from the Sothebys site they linked this. Which I only skimmed the first part. But it does mention how one of Mike’s ancestors came over from Europe and was one of the rare educated ones from that village and then became a banker, but then lost all work during the great depression, but so did everyone else. But if you check the family history, they have a few generations of some cashflow. Same here. To quote a comment from the New York Times article. “The more I learn about the background of the Beasties the more interesting they become.” I think that’s why I have been hanging on these boards for, holy shit, 18 years! That is just dawning on me now. Almost 20 years with some of you people…. “Same faces every day but you don't know their names” I keep coming back and one of the main draws is that I find the band incredibly interesting. Learning about their individual personal lives is another fascinating level that I wish they delved into more with the book. I would buy and read their individual biographies, but as Ad-Rock said in the book “that’s a stuff for my personal memoirs. Which I just set on fire in my bathtub” so I don’t think that will ever come to fruition. Which I 100% understand. They have always seemed to keep their guard up when discussing their immediate family, and who could blame them? Especially in these times. And on that I hope it’s not too weird (probably is) or disrespectful that we are doing a deep dive on this thread. Quote:
But that doesn’t necessarily translate to monetary success (although I think it might have in this case). I have met artists who I thought would be loaded but were not, and there are ones that I have never heard of who were. but, to your point and Quote:
Another thought I just realized as I’m typing this. A weird connection is that Mike lost his Dad and Horovitz lost his Mom around the same time. And now Mike just lost his Mom and Horovitz lost his Dad around the same time. Quote:
I’m sure that was part of it but more so and to quote the book: “the drinking age in New York was eighteen and never enforced, you could be thirteen and get into a club no problem" ” Walking up to the Danceteria: “will you get in? You’re only sixteen but for whatever reason, the doorman Haoui Montaug, likes you, so you slide in” “At the Danceteria, there was this really cool relationship between us kids and these slight older grown-ups. And being aging able to go to this place felt like a privilege. I mean shit…. They’d let us in (for free, no less)” And the inspiration of Egg Raid on Mojo: ”Mojo was the doorman who worked at a few downtown clubs. Sometimes he would let us in for free and sometimes he would not” I don’t think it was the money that got them into the clubs but more that they were gifted with charisma and charm that helped them with obtaining those opportunities. Whether that was genetically inherited or something they picked up from being around artistic parents. Probably a little bit of both. Which brings up Quote:
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Yup, plus the incubating environment that New York was at the time: “If we had grown up almost anywhere else in the world, our crew wouldn’t have had such a steady flow of amazing events that we could go to, unaccompanied by parents. First of all in other cites you had to dive to shows, which automatically meant a parent. And second, because all of our parents were Artis or intellectuals, they gave us an unusual amount of of freedom. It was still kind the ‘70s, in terms of parenting. My mom had certain time structures, like, you know, I could be out late on a weeknight. And I had to be clear about where I was and where I was going. But her basic attitude was, if your school work didn’t suffer, you do whatever you want. If it does, we have a problem. Everybody in our inner crew had parents that were, in one way or the other, similarly lenient” so Quote:
And they had the privilege of financial security with being surrounded by artists. NYT article: “There were all these artists and art historians and characters from the New York City art world that would permeate most evenings of our lives,” Mr. Diamond recalled. “There were some pretty strongly opinionated folks in that room. So it always seemed completely normal to both my brothers and I that you’d have an opinion about everything. We had a family motto: ‘Often wrong, never in doubt.’” And comment: “Not to take away from Mike D nor his parent’s taste in art, but few - regardless of talent - are so fortunate to have the time, security, and opportunity. I am happy that he has done good by it. “ Which they indeed did: Quote:
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“Come on party people share up your stacks" No one can deny that they just don't talk the talk, they walk the walk. All this reaffirms Quote:
NYT article comment: “I have noticed it’s people who are born on third base acting like they hit a triple that stirs up resentment — especially in conjunction with gatekeeping and punching down to hoard opportunities. Thankfully there are a lot people who are the opposite. Even if they don’t remove barriers, they root for the underdog.” Couldn't agree more. Quote:
And from the band “we try not to take ourselves too seriously…" Overall they have always seemed genuinely surprised by their own success. And “Y’all sucked since brass monkey” But in the end they have always acknowledged how lucky they were/are “The odds are stacked for those who lack I been a lucky motherfucker when it comes to that” And you can't front on that Last edited by brooklyndust : 01-29-2021 at 10:51 PM. |
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![]() The Mike stands for Money and the D is for Diamonds...
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