Hip hop passed all your tall social hurdles

[Lex Diamonds]

Discuss.

[chrisd]

can you elaborate, as an expat my english isn't up to date; do you mean: did my love for hip hop survive all efforts (failed and successful) to become an adult with the assimilation to mainstream philistine culture which this process implies. If that's the question then yes, i still love hip hop, even though I dress like beckham, don't drive a pimped out ride and don't act like i'm a real ass g!

[Lex Diamonds]

Like the nationwide projects, prison-industry complex.

[roosta]

i have no idea what this thread is about.....

[Tzar]

Originally Posted by roosta

i have no idea what this thread is about.....

[Lex Diamonds]

It's all mathematics...

[SobaViolence]

don't forget when The Man flooded the streets with heroin. killed off the panthers from the inside and turned all other minority groups against black people.

melting pot, my ass.

[FunkyHiFi]

Is this an academic question merely for mental excercise.........

...or something that pertains to the real world but using "ten dollar words" to ask it?

If it's what ChrisD said, yes, I still like hip-hop despite most friends/family being confused about a person my age doing so (& despite numerous discussions about me not liking 99% of the crap on Top 40 radio, MTV and the other preprocessed/focus-grouped hip-hop shit that the Big Music Corporations push).

fyi: I would also buy more rock music if there was more GOOD rock music to buy. But luckily I didn't really get into 60s/70s psychedelic and folkish rock back in the 80s ("that crap is too old and no longer relevant!" ), so now I have a huge set of "new" music to explore.

I want to get more into the oldies from the 50s. Before rock and hip-hop came along. Well, actually, rock n' roll started in the 50s, but it was a lot more different than how it sounds today. It was a conventional sound.

[bigblu89]

Are we talking about how Rap music was supposed to be a Fad, yet 25 years later it's not only still around, but pretty much a part of mainstream music?

[Guy Incognito]

Originally Posted by bigblu89

Are we talking about how Rap music was supposed to be a Fad, yet 25 years later it's not only still around, but pretty much a part of mainstream music?

Think so - thing is though its nowhere near the same thing as it was - obviously things evolve but now theres some doin hip hop, some doin what the corporations think is hip hop and some doing something in between.

[bigblu89]

True. Almost to the point that I wouldn't mind if it actually was a fad, and faded out after around 1992 or so.

Everthing after that, Except Wu Tang, I could pretty much take or leave.

[bigblu89]

True. Almost to the point that I wouldn't mind if it actually was a fad, and faded out after around 1992 or so.

Everthing after that, Except Wu Tang, I could pretty much take or leave.

[Guy Incognito]

Originally Posted by bigblu89

True. Almost to the point that I wouldn't mind if it actually was a fad, and faded out after around 1992 or so.

Everthing after that, Except Wu Tang, I could pretty much take or leave.

Dude, thats 14 years you've just written off - thats a lot of stuff you've dismissed:

Surely there's some good stuff in amongst all the gangster shit.

Jurassic 5
Handsome Boy Modelling School
Check Your Head onwards
The Goats

There's more but thats jsut off the top off me head. I take your point tho - i think that 92 was the start of the rise of gangsta crap and thats whats taken over.

[Ally Al]

Originally Posted by bigblu89

True. Almost to the point that I wouldn't mind if it actually was a fad, and faded out after around 1992 or so.

Everthing after that, Except Wu Tang, I could pretty much take or leave.

dear lord, i'll prolly address this tomorrow

[ericlee]

in fact, it has given me a bigger penis

[bigblu89]

Originally Posted by Ally Al

dear lord, i'll prolly address this tomorrow

It's what past tomorrow...

What's up?

You trying to say anything post 92 or so is better than the shit Run DMC, Afrikka Bammbatta, GMFlash and the Threach 3, and countless other acts did back in the mid 80's?

[Ally Al]

Originally Posted by bigblu89

It's what past tomorrow...

What's up?

You trying to say anything post 92 or so is better than the shit Run DMC, Afrikka Bammbatta, GMFlash and the Threach 3, and countless other acts did back in the mid 80's?

whats up ??? LOL you should calm yourself down

and yes i am, well maybe not better. I do disagree with you that nothing good has been done in hip hop since 92 but thats my opinion.

[bigblu89]

I didn't mean "What's up" like I was "frontin'" on you.

Chill, gangsta.

I didn't say it was all bad. Some of it is good, just not as good. Hence me saying "take or leave" and not "anything past 92 sucks".

But like they say, opinions ar elike assholes... Everyone's got one, and everyone's by mine's stink.

[Ally Al]

Originally Posted by bigblu89

I didn't mean "What's up" like I was "frontin'" on you.

Chill, gangsta.

I didn't say it was all bad. Some of it is good, just not as good. Hence me saying "take or leave" and not "anything past 92 sucks".

But like they say, opinions ar elike assholes... Everyone's got one, and everyone's by mine's stink.

(puts Glock back in pants, slaps bitch, reaches for 40)

now me personally i still think there's loads of good hip hop out there. It all got a beat muddy and slow beat wise mid 90's but i didn't mind, i still buy as much hip hop as i used to, still get chills when i hear a good beat so each to their own i guess

[bigblu89]

Totally agree with you there. Nothing "beats" a good beat, but a good beat does NOT a good song make.

[Lex Diamonds]

Nas Pac Big Jay-Z Mos Def Snoop??!!!!

[Ally Al]

Originally Posted by The Padster

Nas Pac Big Jay-Z Mos Def Snoop??!!!!

i'd agree on Nas and Jigga, Mos has his moments, Biggie i like some of his stuff but i was never a massive fan, and snoop, well, the odd track but i appreciate what he does i suppose, just not really for me. I'll add on to your list later, it's just all down to personal pref innit ?

[roosta]

snoop is shit.

one good album. a stint on NO LIMIT, thousands of straight to video shitfests and the worst comedy show ever made.

[Ally Al]

Originally Posted by roosta

snoop is shit.

one good album. a stint on NO LIMIT, thousands of straight to video shitfests and the worst comedy show ever made.

tell it like it is roost

[ASsman]

Nas Pac Big Jay-Z Mos Def Snoop??!!!!

That list can go for a bit more and slip into the underground aswell.

People don't like change, that's all. Still good and great hip-hop out there. It's just been splintered and transformed.

As far as hurdles. It's a lot more fun to piss off people with your music that have them enjoy it. Atleast the people that piss you off. Moved out to suburbia from Chicago. I blast my shit as high and loud as it goes. Nothing but fake motherfuckers out here.

[FunkyHiFi]

Nothing but fake motherfuckers out here.

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future predecided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone

Nowhere is the dreamer
Or the misfit so alone

**chorus**

Subdivisions -
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
Subdivisions -
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth
The unattractive truth
But the subrurbs have no charms to soothe
The restless dreams of youth

Part of the song "Subdivisions" from Signals, one of my favorite Rush albums. "Analog Kid" and "Countdown" are two of my favorite songs of any Rush album.

[Drederick Tatum]

is this thread making any sense yet?

[rirv]

Gs up, hos down.
If that bitch can't swim... she's gonna drizzown!

[ASsman]

Fake ASS N****S.


I probably didn't make my safe clear, well off primarily white folk don't have a clue of what's it's like to really live. All ignorant and blissful.