New Sabotage Vinyl Bootleg

[bigfatlove06]

Not bootlegging. Monetizing what was originally intended to support/drive traffic to brick and mortar sellers by encouraging people to sit on their ass and order them instead. It honestly makes me want to vomit.

[tuc70021]

Originally Posted by bigfatlove06

Not bootlegging. Monetizing what was originally intended to support/drive traffic to brick and mortar sellers by encouraging people to sit on their ass and order them instead. It honestly makes me want to vomit.

Yeah, I've always disliked the flagrant flipping that goes on in the record world. I was just wondering how they're selling them right now if the record isn't even available, unless they'll send them later and are just not disclosing that.

This whole release is fine and good, but I kind of have issues with it on both sides. First off, for a "global" event (RSD), 2500 copies is nowhere near enough. This is just begging for people to buy as many as they can and sell them for a shit load. But the release itself seems to miss the point a bit. Why release a weird format that you (supposedly) need a special mini turntable for? I get it - to make more money. But if the idea is to get people into indie record stores, why not make it more appealing to the average person?

I work with someone in his early 70s who was way into soul and funk and all that jazz (no quasi-pun intended) when he was younger. I mentioned in passing one day that I was going to the record store to pick up an album and he was genuinely surprised to know that when people said "record store" they literally meant stores with vinyl records in them. He assumed those were long gone by now. We went down and he found all these old records that he used to have but lost over the years and was so excited to know he could buy Ohio Players "Skin Tight" for $10.

In my mind, RSD is about getting people back to shopping for physical music in a physical store run by normal people. I'm making way too much out of this one release, but it just seems like we're edging toward a much more highly commercial, "branded" thing.

[bigfatlove06]

I don't want to be overly sanctimonious about it, I just get bothered when it's presented as a way to drive traffic into indie record shops but is available 3 weeks prior to people who would prefer to order on line (subsequently making it harder for people who actually want to get it from their local record shop for cheaper to get one).

[bigfatlove06]

The counter point to that is record collecting has evolved to the point that you could go to every single independent record store you have within a 20 mile radius every single day and still come up with less of a haul than you can get online in 15 minutes. The landscape has changed drastically, and just from my perspective whinging about how things are vs how they used to be is cathartic, but not very productive. Embrace the new, or be left behind.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Originally Posted by tuc70021

First off, for a "global" event (RSD), 2500 copies is nowhere near enough. This is just begging for people to buy as many as they can and sell them for a shit load.

Based on the numbers for past RSD releases, that's actually quite a few records. Maybe demand has gone up and things will be different this time around but I'm gonna wait and bet this can be had for close to retail if I can't get one on RSD.

[bigfatlove06]

Agreed. I'll still go to RSD and get mine.

[Laver1969]

Went to local record store. Came up empty. Owner is gonna see if he can get it for me. Anyone else have any luck?

[mcamuto]

For those in NorCal. I called a record shop in oakland and the girl said they arrived last week and they sold out of them this am and claimed they had been selling them prior to today?!!??

[tuc70021]

Originally Posted by mcamuto

For those in NorCal. I called a record shop in oakland and the girl said they arrived last week and they sold out of them this am and claimed they had been selling them prior to today?!!??

Yeah, every record store did this. This is a super first-world problem, but I think this release was kind of a wreck. It really undercut the purpose of record store day. I'm old enough to remember when you had to actually go to a music store to buy music, but that's largely gone now, so RSD was supposed to drive people back to indy music shops. What this did was show everyone that even your anarchist collective record store will sell shit on Ebay/Discogs 100% of the time if it can make then an extra buck (or 50). One can get the feeling that indy record stores aren't even interested in indy record stores anymore.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I'm gonna hold tight for a second. Same thing happened with the Pete Rock Record that came out. I was able to get that for close to the retail price by waiting a bit.

[mcamuto]

2500 units were to 400 stores but 50 percent went to I think the store owned by the record turntable maker. There will not be a second pressing according to somebody close to the source. Two stores near me sold before today!