Mike D talks HSC to Rolling Stone, uses wine metaphors

[Guy Incognito]

Originally Posted by Brother McDuff

does it really matter? they're improving the sonic quality of it. it'll just sound better than it would have if they had released it last year. they've got nothing to gain by lying about it.

i suppose it doesnt as long as the tunes are good. maybe i am being a conspiracy theorist or something but there is no way of knowing if they have improved some of the tracks cos no fucker outside of the band has heard them. i was just being wary of the fact mike had said that, possibly labouring the point. i just dont 100% believe everything i read or see thats all. i dont think he is lying i just was thinking out of the box, my point is that aside from 4 tracks you have no idea if he's lying or not. i'm not trying to be an arse here i just think its good not to take everything at face value.
also, i am no expert on sound quality on stuff but how come it needed improving in the first place? Does that mean they would have put out sub par sound recordings had it not been delayed. is sound recording that fast moving a technology that it needs updating already.

[Kid Presentable]

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

i suppose it doesnt as long as the tunes are good. maybe i am being a conspiracy theorist or something but there is no way of knowing if they have improved some of the tracks cos no fucker outside of the band has heard them. i was just being wary of the fact mike had said that, possibly labouring the point. i just dont 100% believe everything i read or see thats all. i dont think he is lying i just was thinking out of the box, my point is that aside from 4 tracks you have no idea if he's lying or not. i'm not trying to be an arse here i just think its good not to take everything at face value.
also, i am no expert on sound quality on stuff but how come it needed improving in the first place? Does that mean they would have put out sub par sound recordings had it not been delayed. is sound recording that fast moving a technology that it needs updating already.

I think you have to choose your conspiracies.

[bigfatlove06]

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

i suppose it doesnt as long as the tunes are good. maybe i am being a conspiracy theorist or something but there is no way of knowing if they have improved some of the tracks cos no fucker outside of the band has heard them. i was just being wary of the fact mike had said that, possibly labouring the point. i just dont 100% believe everything i read or see thats all. i dont think he is lying i just was thinking out of the box, my point is that aside from 4 tracks you have no idea if he's lying or not. i'm not trying to be an arse here i just think its good not to take everything at face value.
also, i am no expert on sound quality on stuff but how come it needed improving in the first place? Does that mean they would have put out sub par sound recordings had it not been delayed. is sound recording that fast moving a technology that it needs updating already.

I get what you're saying. From my point of view, tracks originally slated for distribution may no longer be the mixes we hear on the album. We will be able to tell the differences on mixes that have already been released / leaked, but as for all of the tracks that we haven't heard yet there will be an "original mix" and an "album mix". For me, it's kind of exciting knowing that somewhere there are tracks that were originally slated for the scheduled release that may not see the light of day, because they have been altered for the delayed release. Maybe filler for an anniversary release in 2020. Or if they are smart each track released as a digital download from http://topspin.net/ renamed as "original mix" or "2009 mix". Or if they got really inventive... pressed on colored 7" vinyl. I know I'm a freak about this kind of stuff, but I can't bear the thought that we may never hear the original versions and that they me be sitting in the vaults next to the submarine version of Hello Nasty.

[JoLovesMCA]

Sometimes demos or original versions end up being my favorite version of a song because it doesn't have all of the glam of producing added to it. I hope we get to hear the originals sometime. Sometimes I don't think the artists understand it from a fans perspective. They want the tracks to be at their best yet for a fan when you hear a new or different version to a song it's almost like hearing it for the first time. Well for me it least.

[Kid Presentable]

Originally Posted by bigfatlove06

I get what you're saying. From my point of view, tracks originally slated for distribution may no longer be the mixes we hear on the album. We will be able to tell the differences on mixes that have already been released / leaked, but as for all of the tracks that we haven't heard yet there will be an "original mix" and an "album mix". For me, it's kind of exciting knowing that somewhere there are tracks that were originally slated for the scheduled release that may not see the light of day, because they have been altered for the delayed release. Maybe filler for an anniversary release in 2020. Or if they are smart each track released as a digital download from http://topspin.net/ renamed as "original mix" or "2009 mix". Or if they got really inventive... pressed on colored 7" vinyl. I know I'm a freak about this kind of stuff, but I can't bear the thought that we may never hear the original versions and that they me be sitting in the vaults next to the submarine version of Hello Nasty.

The difference between The Aquatic Sessions and original masters of Hot Sauce Committee is a wide yawning chasm of incomparability.

[bigfatlove06]

Originally Posted by Kid Presentable

The difference between The Aquatic Sessions and original masters of Hot Sauce Committee is a wide yawning chasm of incomparability.

that is more of a joke. the point is that we may never here the mixes that were originally intended for the album.

[Brother McDuff]

Originally Posted by bigfatlove06

the point is that we may never here the mixes that were originally intended for the album.

if it's solely the mixing and mastering that they're more or less tweaking, then the songs will still be identical arrangement/production/music wise. therefore i'd assume the changes wouldn't be all that apparent. If noticeable at all, they'll just be more sonically improved.

i guess what i'm saying is, i wouldn't fret on the assumption that you're missing out on a whole different version. if anything, the older mixes would just sound less fine-tuned.

[Kid Presentable]

I went to Prof D's page and listened to the Too Many Rappers instrumental, and there is lots we're missing out on in the final mix. Maybe Mario will do them a solid and pop in for a visit /unnecessary wish

[Brother McDuff]

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

i suppose it doesnt as long as the tunes are good. maybe i am being a conspiracy theorist or something but there is no way of knowing if they have improved some of the tracks cos no fucker outside of the band has heard them. i was just being wary of the fact mike had said that, possibly labouring the point. i just dont 100% believe everything i read or see thats all. i dont think he is lying i just was thinking out of the box, my point is that aside from 4 tracks you have no idea if he's lying or not. i'm not trying to be an arse here i just think its good not to take everything at face value.
also, i am no expert on sound quality on stuff but how come it needed improving in the first place? Does that mean they would have put out sub par sound recordings had it not been delayed. is sound recording that fast moving a technology that it needs updating already.

once again, they have no reason to lie. there's always something that can be improved, whether major or minor. if you've got the time, and something sounds iffy, why not tweak? it's simple as pie. i think you're making something out of nothing my man.

[Kid Presentable]

I mean, how do you even know if it's a Claret or not?

[laurie_hammy]

Love HSC updates. Keen for more email updates too.

[Guy Incognito]

right, well i dont want to be one of those twats who just winds people up and starts bleating cos nobody else shares my views but :

. I thought mr diamond laboured the point a bit too much, thats all. It got me thinking that there is no way of knowing for some of the tracks. I'll stand down on this one because i would hope to god that they do some tweaks, it would be a very nice gesture seeing as we have had to wait a longer time (as long as its not going to delay shit even longer!).

I still dont know how to tell the difference from a remastering for stuff done less than 12 months ago.

Kid P, you are hilarious and annoying at the same time