Anybody watch the Bill Nye, Ken Ham creationist debate?

[Waus]

Originally Posted by TurdBerglar

I wonder if when religion and "god" starts to become even less and less impactful to people that the separate overt religions and religious beliefs will start to ally and band together against scientific thinking.

there seems to be less and less people that identify with religion and god. there's going to be a point when there's hardly anybody left.

I guess it's possible. I don't really think the "science vs. religion" paradigm is accurate. I don't personally know any Christians who think science and religion are at odds, and even the fringe people I know several degrees removed generally come up with some shitty pseudo-science to justify their beliefs.

This guy has an unbearably slow cadence and english accent, but he kind of expresses what I think a lot of religious folks subscribe to now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSVPZykCRyQ Really - science and religion are not concerned with the same things. Some people hear this sort of defense and argue that the entire basis of religious belief is inimical to empirical science, I remain unconvinced.

Whether or not religion will continue to be a thing I can't say. I think it might, it'll just start coming from different portions of the world.

[TurdBerglar]

Originally Posted by Waus

I guess it's possible. I don't really think the "science vs. religion" paradigm is accurate. I don't personally know any Christians who think science and religion are at odds, and even the fringe people I know several degrees removed generally come up with some shitty pseudo-science to justify their beliefs.

I feel there's going to be a point in time when the only people left that are overtly religious are going to be more like Ken Ham. The more casual folks are just going to slowly abandon religion as has been happening for quite some time now. that trend will just continue. The folks like ken ham, regardless of religion, who attack science will team up.

[ms.peachy]

Originally Posted by TurdBerglar

The more casual folks are just going to slowly abandon religion as has been happening for quite some time now. that trend will just continue. The folks like ken ham, regardless of religion, who attack science will team up.

The problem is those will also end up being the people who are willing to kill the other people to 'prove' they are right. Not saying Ken Ham is someone who would kill people; just talking about the progression of extremism.

[TurdBerglar]

hmmm

Bill Nye must be reading this board. haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zFruNyiUHQ


oops. wrong thread.

[abbott]

Well, I am sure you know, I can’t give you the answer.

I do love studying ancient history, but how can you trust any of the authors. I assume, as stories got passed down they grew/changed. If we had a time machine we could probably disprove several historical documents. But the message is there if you want it. How about the Native Americans claim of a great flood and knowledge/preparation that it was going to happen. Trust me, I am not telling you to trust Native Americans, who knows what they were smoking.

I also believe you can study the Bible if you like and learn something. I still like the parable about the fig tree. Might sound simple, but I think the knowledge is helpful to me and I need it.

Anyway, studying the past can teach you and I often think about my friends debating weather its true or not. If they just tried to learn from it and take away what they can, it would work out good.

[TurdBerglar]

what the hell, is this real?

http://nation.time.com/2014/02/21/ga...gious-liberty/


how is this any different from refusing to serve any other group of people? lawful discrimination? jesus christ.