HSC Part One

[Bradleystp]

Originally Posted by Micodin

ok well that makes sense because the version of B-Boys in the Cut thats on this guy’s Youtube channel is a vinyl rip. i could distinctly hear the pops.

I remember this came out in two parts, and someone put it together. The instrumental was on one thing, and the acapella was on another. I don't remember the specifics. It sounds like someone misaligned that last verse (not their fault, they had no idea what it would sound like)

But this was definitely the one someone put together from vinyl rips. Which makes the quote from the uploader that "These all came from the Part 1 CD" not true.

[Micodin]

Originally Posted by Bradleystp

But this was definitely the one someone put together from vinyl rips. Which makes the quote from the uploader that "These all came from the Part 1 CD" not true.

i concur.

[Kid Presentable]

Lee Majors, Pop your Balloon and B-Boys in the cut are literally the same rips we had in 2009. Cut is off cadence-wise because someone mashed the pella and the beat together (Zane Lowe played the official version a few months later, I believe). Balloon even has the cursing removed because it was ripped from a game.

Make Some Noise turned up on Z-Trips redacted thing, in its pre-Zdar glory, as limp and as lifeless as lettuce audio-wise. This one ain’t it.

AND it’s the 2011 HALSFY.

This is a playlist.

[Micodin]

Originally Posted by Kid Presentable

Lee Majors, Pop your Balloon and B-Boys in the cut are literally the same rips we had in 2009. Cut is off cadence-wise because someone mashed the pella and the beat together (Zane Lowe played the official version a few months later, I believe). Balloon even has the cursing removed because it was ripped from a game.

Make Some Noise turned up on Z-Trips redacted thing, in its pre-Zdar glory, as limp and as lifeless as lettuce audio-wise. This one ain’t it.

AND it’s the 2011 HALSFY.

This is a playlist.

i’d like to think some guy put this shabbily together and sold it to the Youtube guy on ebay. maybe he genuinely thought he had the real thing? we all could of done a better job than this lol.

was HALSFY was released before HSCP2? i don’t remember a different version.

[Kid Presentable]

Originally Posted by Micodin

i’d like to think some guy put this shabbily together and sold it to the Youtube guy on ebay. maybe he genuinely thought he had the real thing? we all could of done a better job than this lol.

was HALSFY was released before HSCP2? i don’t remember a different version.

My mistake: 2011 verses led me to conclude it’s the 2011 version. 2009 verses (Dr Ochek, dead mans ligament) were only ever on the DJ Hero mix, but safe assumption they were ‘final’ at that point.

[Micodin]

i keep forgetting about the DJ Hero cuts.

[jimmyjrg]

Originally Posted by Micodin

i keep forgetting about the DJ Hero cuts.

Were they ripped? I'll have to check those out.

[brmanuk]

Originally Posted by Kid Presentable

Make Some Noise turned up on Z-Trips redacted thing, in its pre-Zdar glory, as limp and as lifeless as lettuce audio-wise. This one ain’t it.

Anyone know where I can hear this version of Make Some Noise?

[Micodin]

Originally Posted by brmanuk

Anyone know where I can hear this version of Make Some Noise?

around the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/5CeIBLUFj70

[Kid Presentable]

Originally Posted by Micodin

around the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/5CeIBLUFj70

Nowhere near as bad as I remember, but it was jarring at the time beside shit like Pass the Mic etc.

Actually quite enjoyable.

[tuc70021]

Originally Posted by Micodin

around the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/5CeIBLUFj70

Ok, this is a perpetual problem for me as I don't seem to be able to grasp recording/sound reinforcement at all, but can someone explain how a mix like this can actually be made? There was a point where the vocals for Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun were laid over some other beat, but as far as I know the acapella for that track was never released. Does this DJ just have some exclusive access to instrumentals/acapellas? Is there a way to isolate vocals through a mixer or something? Or were these instrumentals/acapellas just released on some bootlegs I don't know about.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Originally Posted by tuc70021

Ok, this is a perpetual problem for me as I don't seem to be able to grasp recording/sound reinforcement at all, but can someone explain how a mix like this can actually be made? There was a point where the vocals for Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun were laid over some other beat, but as far as I know the acapella for that track was never released. Does this DJ just have some exclusive access to instrumentals/acapellas? Is there a way to isolate vocals through a mixer or something? Or were these instrumentals/acapellas just released on some bootlegs I don't know about.

Z-Trip is a very high-profile DJ so there is a very good chance that he may have access to certain tracks or even components of the tracks ("stems") directly from the Beastie Boys. I suspect that's how he got the early version of "Make Some Noise". Even back in the old days, DJs would get advanced a cappellas so that they could remix tracks for official remixes. So, DJ Muggs of Cypress Hill fame got the a cappella of "So What Cha Want" back in 92 and used that to create his remix for the single. There are also a good amount of "unreleased" instrumentals floating around that were obtained from concert/show vinyl that ended up in collectors' hands. Also, the Beasties self-released a lot of a cappella trough this website some time ago (Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun was one of them).

It used to be that DJs would have to track down the vinyl and piece these mixes together (either live using turntables, or on a multi-track recorder) directly from the vinyl. So, for example, you can get the instrumental version of a track and put the a cappella from another track over that. There are tons of tricks. You can create "instrumentals" by manual looping of parts of the track turntables. Or, you can track down the source samples and use those. You're basically just tempo-matching the sounds and bringing them in and out in much the same way that hip hop tracks are produced in the first place.

Now that DJs have digital tools, they can piece together audio from any source and the sharing of digital files is really easy. You no longer have to track down concert vinyl with only 10 copies in existence to get instrumentals. You can just download the file and put it into your digital djing program and control it just like it was vinyl.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

Originally Posted by tuc70021

Ok, this is a perpetual problem for me as I don't seem to be able to grasp recording/sound reinforcement at all, but can someone explain how a mix like this can actually be made? There was a point where the vocals for Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun were laid over some other beat, but as far as I know the acapella for that track was never released. Does this DJ just have some exclusive access to instrumentals/acapellas? Is there a way to isolate vocals through a mixer or something? Or were these instrumentals/acapellas just released on some bootlegs I don't know about.

Don't know if this helps you conceptualize the process, but here is the into to an 80s mix I did. The video shows what records I used and when they come in and out of the mix so that you can visualize how the audio-mix was created. Pretty much all DJs mixes use similar concepts when putting together a mix.

https://youtu.be/WjziRqW9HoM

[dave790]

Originally Posted by Micodin

around the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/5CeIBLUFj70

Missed this the first time, thanks a lot.

I like and possibly prefer the OG mix, but I can certainly appreciate what Zdar brought to the table.

[Micodin]

Originally Posted by dave790

Missed this the first time, thanks a lot.

I like and possibly prefer the OG mix, but I can certainly appreciate what Zdar brought to the table.

the mixing in the pre Zadar cuts sound closer to the Mario C days and that’s why i think i prefer them. i really wish they would put out a Mario mix of HSC and call it Part One.

[brooklyndust]

Originally Posted by Micodin

around the 9:30 mark

https://youtu.be/5CeIBLUFj70

I don't think I remember hearing this before. I like it! Maybe more than the original version or maybe because it's just something different.

I also prefer the og version of Too Many Rappers. I would love to hear the pre Zadar mixes and the original lyrics too.