Blue Dog Democrats

[DroppinScience]

Originally Posted by Schmeltz

Actually the reason it doesn't mean anything is because it's coming from the guy who copied and pasted a post from another forum and tried to pass it off as the product of his own tireless research.

Seriously, did this just pass everyone by? What Robmoney did on page 2 of this thread, which I called him out for? Does nobody else think that his credibility took a massive hit there? Does nobody else think that this makes it much more difficult to respect or take seriously anything he has to say?

Well, his credibility has been shot for quite some time. It's a thankless job trying to talk truth to stupid, but somebody's gotta do it.

[kaiser soze]

I do remember dorothy wood calling him out on plagiarism as well.

I'm not surprised considering he's not a campus fuck face so plagiarism is not in his dictionary.

better to be a campus fuckface rather than a fucking fake

[saz]

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[RobMoney$]

Originally Posted by kaiser soze

I do remember dorothy wood calling him out on plagiarism as well.

I'm not surprised considering he's not a campus fuck face so plagiarism is not in his dictionary.

better to be a campus fuckface rather than a fucking fake

This is the internet, fuckface.
Not college.

[kaiser soze]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

This is the internet, fuckface.
Not college.

This coming from the guy who came up with campus fuckface as an insult on an internet board

go figure

anyways nice plagiarism

[RobMoney$]

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

[DroppinScience]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

See, this is the reason why you couldn't make it through college. Everyone here has posted content from the likes of the New York Times, BBC, CNN, Salon.com, you name it. But everyone here makes sure to link the source and/or attribute it to the original author. You here try to pass off this kind of stuff as completely your own creation, which makes you unethical and an unworthy opponent. It's a wonder you continue as if you've done nothing wrong.

Thank God I'm a campus fuckface.

[Schmeltz]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

That's a bunch of fucking crap, and you know it. Copying out a post made on another forum, by a total stranger, and passing it off as your own original argument, based on a supposed evening of tireless research, which is what you did, is nothing at all like using a poll to illustrate a point. You ripped someone else off and figured you wouldn't get caught, and now that you've been called on it you don't even have the balls to own up to your plagiarism.

Again, I ask you - how do you expect anybody to take you seriously after pulling shit like that?

[kaiser soze]

It's the sense of entitlement conservatives are nefarious for projecting on other people.

He won't own up to it and if he doesn't he should be shunned in this political forum for thieving other peoples' arguments outright.

[Dorothy Wood]

Originally Posted by Schmeltz

That's a bunch of fucking crap, and you know it. Copying out a post made on another forum, by a total stranger, and passing it off as your own original argument, based on a supposed evening of tireless research, which is what you did, is nothing at all like using a poll to illustrate a point. You ripped someone else off and figured you wouldn't get caught, and now that you've been called on it you don't even have the balls to own up to your plagiarism.

Again, I ask you - how do you expect anybody to take you seriously after pulling shit like that?

he does this shit all the time, probably more often than we realize. I caught him here, in the thread about Gates:
http://beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost....7&postcount=69

he never addressed it. he even changed the wording a little to suit his argument better.

he also posted this whole thread with pics of NYC as if it were his idea, actually thanking people by saying "I just spent a few hours posting them all.
I'm glad someone appreciates the effort. I thought it was worthwhile.":
http://beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=90848


but then kaiser caught him and said:
I appreciate ablarc's efforts

You could have posted this link and saved yourself the time

http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5010





so you see, we might as well google everything rob says to see who said it first. his ideas are not his own.

[RobMoney$]

Originally Posted by DroppinScience

Well, his credibility has been shot for quite some time. It's a thankless job trying to talk truth to stupid, but somebody's gotta do it.

Who are you calling stupid?

You're gay, dude.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but you're twenty something years old and you haven't figured it out yet.
It's beyond sad at this point.

[QueenAdrock]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

Who are you calling stupid?

You're gay, dude.
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but you're twenty something years old and you haven't figured it out yet.
It's beyond sad at this point.

He fucks quite well for a fag.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

Whatever.

It's no different than using a rasmussen poll to illustrate a point you're trying to make instead of going out and making 1000 phone calls and doing your own survey.

nobody's saying it's not ok to copy information from a source, in fact it's encouraged. it's just a little confusing that you didn't cite the source or even bother to tell anyone that you'd copied something. especially since the thing you copied prefaced its argument by saying "here's my argument". obviously this is a message board, not a research paper so nobody's expecting anyone to document their posts with properly bluebooked citations and footnotes but still, man, it wasn't your argument. don't you think it was a little weird not to mention that?

Originally Posted by QueenAdrock

He fucks quite well for a fag.

you're just a beard

[saz]

what's interesting is that rob keeps going on about "socialized medicine" or whatever, when obama actually just wants to create a public health insurance option, to compete with private health insurance companies, so people can pick and choose between the two, or remain with private insurance if they already have it.

meanwhile, bill and hillary actually tried to completely reform america's health insurance system in '93-'94, advocating public insurance for everyone, which sent the gop, private health insurance lobbyists and special interests into hysterics (just like now), with effigies of hillary with a noose around her neck. bill and hillary's initiative was much more bold and massive than obama's, and they're also 100% behind obama with the current proposed reform. so i guess rob was vehemently opposed to the clintons back then too?

[RobMoney$]

Originally Posted by saz

what's interesting is that rob keeps going on about "socialized medicine" or whatever, when obama actually just wants to create a public health insurance option, to compete with private health insurance companies, so people can pick and choose between the two, or remain with private insurance if they already have it.

HAHAHAA, Oh man, I remember when I believed everything the government told me. Kids...

Curious Saz, have you seen the youtube footage of Obama stating that he's in favor of a single-payer option?

http://brainshavings.com/2009/08/vid...upporting.html


How long do you think employers will continue to offer to pay for a large portion of a private healthcare plan when there's a Gov't run plan that you can be put on that'll cost them nothing.
I know I don't have to illustrate the level of greed that exists in corporate america.

[saz]

Originally Posted by RobMoney$

HAHAHAA, Oh man, I remember when I believed everything the government told me. Kids...

Curious Saz, have you seen the youtube footage of Obama stating that he's in favor of a single-payer option?

http://brainshavings.com/2009/08/vid...upporting.html


How long do you think employers will continue to offer to pay for a large portion of a private healthcare plan when there's a Gov't run plan that you can be put on that'll cost them nothing.
I know I don't have to illustrate the level of greed that exists in corporate america.

all that edited clip from that conservative website you linked proved is that obama has flip-flopped, just like any other politician. in this nader spot, at the 0:32 mark, obama flip-flops once more and says "i never said that we should go ahead and get single-payer".

in regards to how much longer employers will continue to offer to pay for a large portion of a private healthcare plan, when there's public insurance available which will cost the employer nothing, well that just comes down to basic common sense. besides, the private health insurance industry are a bunch of greedy parasites who fuck people out of their coverage in order to turn a profit.

anyways, you didn't answer my question about the clintons.