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Old 11-09-2017, 02:49 PM
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Default TISFWO, TT5B and HSCPT2 Vinyl Re-Issue

Beasties' Facebook page shared the following today:

"Back again!
These 3 titles have been out of print on vinyl, so we're bringing em back!
Get them at your local record store on December 8 or pre-order them here: https://UMe.lnk.to/BeastieBoysVinyl
The In Sound From Way Out, To the 5 Boroughs and Hot Sauce Committee Part Two are scheduled to ship on December 8 from the online store."

As someone who has been looking for an affordable pressing of TT5B for a while now, I am pretty pumped about this.



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Old 11-09-2017, 08:37 PM
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This is awesome!

Any idea about the details of the reissues (180g vinyl, remaster, anything like that)?
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Old 11-10-2017, 01:45 AM
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I was just about to post this. Definitely gonna cop that 5 Boroughs. Sad that the HSC vinyls wont be white. Luckily, I got that shit day one.



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Old 11-10-2017, 05:30 AM
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Yar all 180. Not remastered, I don't think.

And agreed, I've been trying to get TT5B for a while. I'd like an original, but I can never justify 80 bucks or whatever.



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Old 11-10-2017, 09:22 AM
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So for those interested....

I checked out the track listing on the TISFWO reissue and noticed that this pressing will have the standard US CD version tracks.

The original and 98 vinyl reissue did not have Namaste and Lighten Up, probably because there were not originally instrumental tracks. The CD version included these, but dropped Futterman's Rule (which I've always thought was a terrible decision).

So this 2017 reissue will essentially be the CD version, but pressed to vinyl.
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:34 PM
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Strange, cos the track-listing on the UK store is the original vinyl track-listing... i.e. with Futterman's Rule but without Namaste and Lighten Up. Though it also has the vinyl kicking off with Ricky's Theme. But you're right, in the US store it's as you describe. I wonder if they are actually different presses. Seems unlikely.



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Good point. I should have mentioned that I was looking at th North American store. The original pressing also started with Ricky's Theme, so maybe they just copied and pasted the wrong track listing? We'll see when it comes out. Anyone buying a copy from the UK/Europe store?

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Old 11-12-2017, 02:33 AM
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I probably will yes. I think it might just be the original vinyl track-listing for both, going off amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Way-Out...ay+out+ vinyl), UK store is the same 12 tracks.

That makes a lot more sense about Ricky's Theme now. Either way, will confirm upon arrival!



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My memory is that the original In Sound from Way Out was a limited mail-order Grand Royal offer for the first 5,000 people that ordered. It was advertised in Grand Royal Magazine. The record came on transparent yellow vinyl and had a numbered hologram sticker. I suspect this was never meant to be anything more than a limited release at the time they did this. It was really just a compilation of the album cuts of their albume tracks (or in some cases cuts from singles/eps). There was no new content (also, no CD or tape version was released). Keep in mind that not that many people were buying vinyl at this time. I'm not sure they were expecting it to be as successful as it was.

Some time later I think they figured out these instrumental tracks were worthy of more than a limited release. This was when the CD and black vinyl came out with the previously unreleased instrumental versions of Lighten Up and Namaste (at least, I always thought the vinyl reissue mirrored the CD, I could be wrong on this). Technically, this was the first re-release of this album. It appears that they put more thought and effort into the this release with the exclusive instrumental tracks and new song arrangement.

It seems odd to me that they would ever re-release the original yellow vinyl version because I suspect they put more effort into the project on the initial re-release to get the album where they thought it should be. But who knows! I guess we'll see.

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Looking at Beastiemania, it appears all previous vinyl releases have the original (yellow vinyl) track listing. It would be cool if this one was the CD version with the new tracks.
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Old 11-12-2017, 11:28 AM
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Yup, all the previous vinyl versions have that track listing with Futtermans Rule and without Lighten Up and Namaste.

In addition to the yellow vinyl limited release of 5000, there was also a regular black release as part of the first pressing too. This wasn't a numbered, limited edition, but was an original pressing that had the same track listing. Then the reissue in '98 had the same listing as well and came only in black.

I didn't expect these reissues at all, but now that we have them, I'm kind of wondering why they didn't reissue other albums that could use a re-boot. The Mix Up has never been reissued, but then again, it's still cheap on Discogs and other places, so maybe they figured there wasn't much demand. Aglio e Olio came out the same year as The In Sound From Way Out ('95), and to me has always had the most frustrating vinyl history of all the major releases. To my knowledge, there was only ever a Canadian vinyl release and they can be pretty pricey today. Then there was the Australian 2x7" polycarbonate lathe-cut release, but those are crazy expensive and don't sound very good.

I also think Aglio e Olio would do well for a reissue because it could be remastered really well. Since it was an instrument-based punk rock album, I bet there's a lot more they can do with those original tapes as opposed to hip-hop releases where you're remastering samples that can't really be remastered.

So yeah...... Capitol execs..... I've got $30 with your name on it for an Aglio e Olio remaster (maybe on white vinyl????)
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Old 11-12-2017, 11:00 PM
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Futterman's is the ropest. Sounds like the soundtrack to the illest Coors Light or Juicy Fruit commercial ever.



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Good point. I should have mentioned that I was looking at th North American store. The original pressing also started with Ricky's Theme, so maybe they just copied and pasted the wrong track listing? We'll see when it comes out. Anyone buying a copy from the UK/Europe store?
I ordered one each from the US, and had a friend from Spain (thanks Xavier!) order one each from the EU store. I emailed King's Road Merch to see if they could tell me how many were unique pressings (UK, Germany, and Australia specifically). They replied back and said they're only the retailer and don't have any idea.
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Old 11-15-2017, 05:55 PM
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Yup, all the previous vinyl versions have that track listing with Futtermans Rule and without Lighten Up and Namaste.

In addition to the yellow vinyl limited release of 5000, there was also a regular black release as part of the first pressing too. This wasn't a numbered, limited edition, but was an original pressing that had the same track listing. Then the reissue in '98 had the same listing as well and came only in black.

I didn't expect these reissues at all, but now that we have them, I'm kind of wondering why they didn't reissue other albums that could use a re-boot. The Mix Up has never been reissued, but then again, it's still cheap on Discogs and other places, so maybe they figured there wasn't much demand. Aglio e Olio came out the same year as The In Sound From Way Out ('95), and to me has always had the most frustrating vinyl history of all the major releases. To my knowledge, there was only ever a Canadian vinyl release and they can be pretty pricey today. Then there was the Australian 2x7" polycarbonate lathe-cut release, but those are crazy expensive and don't sound very good.

I also think Aglio e Olio would do well for a reissue because it could be remastered really well. Since it was an instrument-based punk rock album, I bet there's a lot more they can do with those original tapes as opposed to hip-hop releases where you're remastering samples that can't really be remastered.

So yeah...... Capitol execs..... I've got $30 with your name on it for an Aglio e Olio remaster (maybe on white vinyl????)
There are 2 legit Canada 12" releases for AEO. Black and Translucent brown. I don't know if it was intentional or a difference in manufacturing though.
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:07 PM
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My memory is that the original In Sound from Way Out was a limited mail-order Grand Royal offer for the first 5,000 people that ordered. It was advertised in Grand Royal Magazine. The record came on transparent yellow vinyl and had a numbered hologram sticker. I suspect this was never meant to be anything more than a limited release at the time they did this. It was really just a compilation of the album cuts of their albume tracks (or in some cases cuts from singles/eps). There was no new content (also, no CD or tape version was released). Keep in mind that not that many people were buying vinyl at this time. I'm not sure they were expecting it to be as successful as it was.

Some time later I think they figured out these instrumental tracks were worthy of more than a limited release. This was when the CD and black vinyl came out with the previously unreleased instrumental versions of Lighten Up and Namaste (at least, I always thought the vinyl reissue mirrored the CD, I could be wrong on this). Technically, this was the first re-release of this album. It appears that they put more thought and effort into the this release with the exclusive instrumental tracks and new song arrangement.

It seems odd to me that they would ever re-release the original yellow vinyl version because I suspect they put more effort into the project on the initial re-release to get the album where they thought it should be. But who knows! I guess we'll see.
It's funny how this keeps popping up (The In Sound discussion). I remember you saying that there were instrumental only versions of Namaste and Lighten up on the '98 reissue. I pulled out all of the vinyl and compared the tracks and basically found that all of the official TISFWO copies (from the test pressing through the last pressing in '98) were the same. Those tracks were also the same as the original French Fan Club release which came out just before. The only thing that changed on the '98 reissue (which I never realized until I just wrapped my head around what you were saying) is that the CD dropped Futterman's Rule, added the instrumentals for Namaste & Lighten Up, and changed up the sequence.

It's been bootlegged 4 times on vinyl since then. The first boot was a two LP that had the original 12 tracks in sequence plus Namaste & Lighten up from the '98 reissue CD tagged on at the end. The second boot is a straight rip of the original without the 2 new tracks that showed up on the '98 CD's. The third boot is the same as the original vinyl but with a different label and catalog number. The fourth boot is also the same as the original but pressed on 2 different color vinyls (we've found 9 color variations so far).

All of the subsequent reissues on CD have been the same as the '98 CD with the exception of Japan pressings which have 2 x each instrumentals of Sure Shot and Get It Together Remixes. I can't believe it took me so long to finally get what you were saying, but thanks for helping me understand.

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There are 2 legit Canada 12" releases for AEO. Black and Translucent brown. I don't know if it was intentional or a difference in manufacturing though.
Huh, I never knew. My version is translucent brown, but it looks black until you hold it up to the light. I always assumed it was just a weird grade of vinyl and they intended for it to be black.
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It's funny how this keeps popping up (The In Sound discussion). I remember you saying that there were instrumental only versions of Namaste and Lighten up on the '98 reissue. I pulled out all of the vinyl and compared the tracks and basically found that all of the official TISFWO copies (from the test pressing through the last pressing in '98) were the same. Those tracks were also the same as the original French Fan Club release which came out just before. The only thing that changed on the '98 reissue (which I never realized until I just wrapped my head around what you were saying) is that the CD dropped Futterman's Rule, added the instrumentals for Namaste & Lighten Up, and changed up the sequence.

It's been bootlegged 4 times on vinyl since then. The first boot was a two LP that had the original 12 tracks in sequence plus Namaste & Lighten up from the '98 reissue CD tagged on at the end. The second boot is a straight rip of the original without the 2 new tracks that showed up on the '98 CD's. The third boot is the same as the original vinyl but with a different label and catalog number. The fourth boot is also the same as the original but pressed on 2 different color vinyls (we've found 9 color variations so far).

All of the subsequent reissues on CD have been the same as the '98 CD with the exception of Japan pressings which have 2 x each instrumentals of Sure Shot and Get It Together Remixes. I can't believe it took me so long to finally get what you were saying, but thanks for helping me understand.
Yeah, my problem is that I've always been under the mistaken impression that the subsequent vinyl releases mirrored the CD, and they don't. I do remember a decent gap in time between when the original yellow vinyl was done and the CD came out. Maybe a year or so. I wonder if when they decided to do a full fledged release of the CD version they put the money into mastering for the CD with the instrumental tracks, but did not want to bear the expense of doing a separate re-master for the vinyl on the basis that vinyl wasn't selling well back then. So, the subsequent vinyl releases would have had the same master as the original vinyl and the CD mixes got a new master with the added instrumental versions of those two songs. Just a guess, but its the only reason I can think of why the CD and vinyl don't match.
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Yeah, my problem is that I've always been under the mistaken impression that the subsequent vinyl releases mirrored the CD, and they don't. I do remember a decent gap in time between when the original yellow vinyl was done and the CD came out. Maybe a year or so. I wonder if when they decided to do a full fledged release of the CD version they put the money into mastering for the CD with the instrumental tracks, but did not want to bear the expense of doing a separate re-master for the vinyl on the basis that vinyl wasn't selling well back then. So, the subsequent vinyl releases would have had the same master as the original vinyl and the CD mixes got a new master with the added instrumental versions of those two songs. Just a guess, but its the only reason I can think of why the CD and vinyl don't match.
I have a master that was created in 2003 from capitol with a cue sheet and everything if you want to have a look at it. Just email me if so.
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I probably will yes. I think it might just be the original vinyl track-listing for both, going off amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Way-Out...ay+out+ vinyl), UK store is the same 12 tracks.

That makes a lot more sense about Ricky's Theme now. Either way, will confirm upon arrival!
If the UK is any different from the EU I ordered I'd like to know!
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:22 AM
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The reissue of HSCP2 makes me wonder if they'll ever release any of the other material from that era. This reissue appears to have even less that the original pressing (since it doesn't come with the bonus 7"). If there was a time to release any lost tracks, I would have guessed it would be with the reissue. Maybe they won't do it because Yauch isn't around the have creative input though.

Same could be said for TT5B, but I get the feeling they didn't have as much stuff at that time. I think The Mix Up would do great for a bonus disc. The bonus instrumental stuff from the Hello Nasty remaster in 2009 was pretty good, and I imagine if they have been focusing their time and energy on instrumental tracks around TMU, they probably have even better stuff.
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