Spiritual Advisors

[D_Raay]

I don't undertsand these people who call themselves spiritual advisors.
Franklin Graham, the unfortunate son of Billy Graham, is George Bush's spiritual advisor. Bill Clinton had Jesse Jackson.

Here's the part I don't understand: How can someone else advise you on your own spirit? Isn't spirit an intensely personal, internal thing? Doesn't it, by it's very nature, elude definition, much less analysis? What kind of advice could some drone who has devoted his life to the self-deception of religion possibly give you about your spirit?

[racer5.0stang]

1 John 1:5-10
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

[yeahwho]

You know racer5.0stang, you are so incredibly boring. Do you think if you copy and paste Bible Quotes you are blowing us away? That it bugs us or something. All you are doing is ignoring the topic in every post you've made. Even in one so aptly named " Spiritual Advisors."

Whenever you decide to pull your predictable head out of your ass and have a conversation about something other than hide behind the Bible (twas not intended for your purpose, actions not words, grab the hoe and go) then maybe you will start to become spiritual. As is, for me and I'm sure many others who have read the Bible, you are comic relief in your surefire response to everything here on the BBBB.

[racer5.0stang]

Originally Posted by yeahwho

You know racer5.0stang, you are so incredibly boring. Do you think if you copy and paste Bible Quotes you are blowing us away? That it bugs us or something. All you are doing is ignoring the topic in every post you've made. Even in one so aptly named " Spiritual Advisors."

Whenever you decide to pull your predictable head out of your ass and have a conversation about something other than hide behind the Bible (twas not intended for your purpose, actions not words, grab the hoe and go) then maybe you will start to become spiritual. As is, for me and I'm sure many others who have read the Bible, you are comic relief in your surefire response to everything here on the BBBB.

I would like to know your interpretation of what you read in the bible is?

In reality, I have posted verses that go along with the threads and other posts, although you may not be able to grasp the concept of what the
post(s) are in reference to.

[yeahwho]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

I would like to know your interpretation of what you read in the bible is?

For what it's worth, I am not trying to be spiritual in a political forum. Bush is pretending to be spiritual in a political position, it is like this, Faith without works is dead, your spirit will attract more followers than your preaching.

[racer5.0stang]

Originally Posted by yeahwho

For what it's worth, I am not trying to be spiritual in a political forum. Bush is pretending to be spiritual in a political position, it is like this, Faith without works is dead, your spirit will attract more followers than your preaching.

To my knowledge I have not preached at or to anyone. I have merely posted some scripture on here trying to open your eyes.

Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

This country was founded by bible believing Christians, so I don't know how you can say that you can not be spiritual and political. This country and this world has gone away from God and towards the lusts of man.

Our principles, morals, and beliefs are what drives the discisions that we make everyday, no matter how great or small.

[QueenAdrock]

I heard that the super-thin gilded sheets of the bible makes for really good material to jerk off with.

[D_Raay]

I thought you were going to say "wipe your ass" with....

[QueenAdrock]

Originally Posted by D_Raay

I thought you were going to say "wipe your ass" with....

Oh, that works too. Someone commented to me last month how soft and usable the sheets are, so I bet they could be used for a lot.

[59 Chrystie St.]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

1 John 1:5-10
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

When you die and go to heaven are you going to be floating around on a cloud playing a harp, with wings on your back like in the Tom & Jerry cartoons. Just wondering what you thought. The cookier the better, surprise me...come up with some neo-con born again flavor. And by the way when ever you refer to Him or His, use capital letters or you'll burn in Hell, my spiritual adviser informed me of that.

[Cashew]

You know why people have religion? I can tell you.

We were once nomadic, never had time for much thinking, or much praying for that matter, so we wandered around following the heards, feeding, fucking, living, and life was simple and good, and short. Then a group of nomads came across the region know as the fertile cresent (modern day Iraq) and found out that there was no reason to fillow the heards here because they could sit back and plant crops. Eventually they domesticated animals, and life was good, but still short.

Well with the domestication of animals, and the crops growning, man had time for thinking, something he had never had time for before. He came up with numbers, currency, natural logic, all sorts of fun primitive crap like that!

But then man thought to far, into a realm he could not explain. His life was short, but he liked his life, he wanted it to go on forever. The sun went up and down, but he could not understand why. The crops grew, the rain fell, lightning clashed, his son died of a cough, and he did not know why. He was afriad.

What's the best cure for fear? Something that will make you feel safe and secure, like "Duck and Cover" in the 60's. So primitive man began to thank the plants, thank the sun, thank the sky, for all it has done for them, PRAYED to them. They thought this would appease whatever controlled these forces. Soon they came up with systems of worship, which promised eternal hapiness for those who prayed the hardest, now a short life was not a curse! You could live forever as long as you gave your life to your lord or lords.

Well soon became disenchanted with these natural gods, they had betrayed them with draughts and famine. They stopped praying. By this time there were religious leaders, these leaders were very powerful, and they liked being in power, so they came up with a new concept... enternal damnation for those who don't accept the gods and pray! Yes that was the way! Fear to bring them together! Fear to keep them inline!

It has been done that way ever since.

[afronaut]

racer, no offense, but people like you are the reason no one has any respect for the christian faith, or any religion. You're killing your own faith. I blame you for me being an atheist. You turn more people permenantly away from christianity than you "save them".

But I thank you, if people like you keep on doing their thing like you do, christianity should be completely absolete in 50 years or so. Thank you for doing your part in liberating the world from the clutches of Christianity.

[racer5.0stang]

Originally Posted by Cashew

Well soon became disenchanted with these natural gods, they had betrayed them with draughts and famine. They stopped praying. By this time there were religious leaders, these leaders were very powerful, and they liked being in power, so they came up with a new concept... enternal damnation for those who don't accept the gods and pray! Yes that was the way! Fear to bring them together! Fear to keep them inline!

It has been done that way ever since.

I think you just described the Roman Catholic Church

[ASsman]

I think you just sinned.

[Abdul-Karim]

I hate people who try to mix religion with politics. It's like water and oil. Spiritual advisor is also an oxymoron.

Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson? Or no, better yet Jesse "Hypocrite" Jackson?

At the very moment he was providing pastoral counseling to the White House's resident adulterer, he was carrying on an extramarital affair of his own, with a subordinate who later gave birth to his [illegitimate] child.

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

I think you just described the Roman Catholic Church

The people who brought you "absolution" - everyone's favourite cure all.

[yeahwho]

Originally Posted by D_Raay

Here's the part I don't understand: How can someone else advise you on your own spirit? Isn't spirit an intensely personal, internal thing? Doesn't it, by it's very nature, elude definition, much less analysis? What kind of advice could some drone who has devoted his life to the self-deception of religion possibly give you about your spirit?

You have encapsulated everything D_Raay has potrayed in this paragraph. Does it make you happy that your posts make a mockery the intent you so wish to achieve? You remind me of an old lady at the church. A funny old lady at the church. If that is the effect your lookin' for, you've reached success here on the BBBB.

[Cashew]

They tell you what to do based on a 2000 year old book that has done nothing but start wars, and hold down the rights miniorities and women and did I mention genocide?

Why people haven't opened their eyes to this evil yet is beyond me.

[racer5.0stang]

Originally Posted by Cashew

They tell you what to do based on a 2000 year old book that has done nothing but start wars, and hold down the rights miniorities and women and did I mention genocide?

Why people haven't opened their eyes to this evil yet is beyond me.

Wars have been started for less reasons than religion.

People have failed to open their eyes to alot of evil.

So Hitler based his belief(s) on the bible, by killing Jews, God's chosen people?

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

So Hitler based his belief(s) on the bible, by killing Jews, God's chosen people?

So you want to convert to Judaism?

[Cashew]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

Wars have been started for less reasons than religion.

People have failed to open their eyes to alot of evil.

So Hitler based his belief(s) on the bible, by killing Jews, God's chosen people?

Yes he did.

"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."
(Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 46)

You need to do your homework hombre. Religion and government are like gasoline and rubber, they don't mix, unless you force them together, then they create a sticky flamable substance that burns and destroys everything it touches.

Oh yeah, now there is an proverb for you!

I recommend

www.au.org
www.theboywhocriediraq.com
www.fpif.org
www.theocracywatch.org

[Funkaloyd]

I guess the first President will have to do.

http://www.deism.com/washington.htm

[ChrisLove]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

Wars have been started for less reasons than religion.

People have failed to open their eyes to alot of evil.

So Hitler based his belief(s) on the bible, by killing Jews, God's chosen people?

I know you will miss this completely but you can really open your eyes to a lot of the difficulty and problems in the world once if you can consider the possibility that there is no such thing as 'evil' in the spiritual sence of the word. It seems to me to be a kindergarden concept to gloss over the aspects of humanity that are more difficult to except.

Could be wrong of course.....often am

[racer5.0stang]

Originally Posted by ChrisLove

I know you will miss this completely but you can really open your eyes to a lot of the difficulty and problems in the world once if you can consider the possibility that there is no such thing as 'evil' in the spiritual sence of the word. It seems to me to be a kindergarden concept to gloss over the aspects of humanity that are more difficult to except.

Could be wrong of course.....often am

If evil doesn't exist, then why are we killing each other, raping women, killing babies, and any other sort?

If evil doesn't exist in the spiritual sense, then who is Satan?

You may want to remove the wool from your eyes.

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

If evil doesn't exist in the spiritual sense, then who is Satan?

An Anthropomorphic personification, duh.

[ChrisLove]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

If evil doesn't exist, then why are we killing each other, raping women, killing babies, and any other sort?

If evil doesn't exist in the spiritual sense, then who is Satan?

Obviously I dont believe in Satan,

as for the baby killing we do that because of the nature of the beast we are. Crack open the head of a child killer or Hitler or Bush and you will not find a demon pushing the buttons (metaphorical yo) you will find a human being not dissimular to yourself, like I said, evil is just a kindergarden concept to simplify the complex human condition to the point where it is easily digestable.

Dont think that bad people are being driven by any force, they are just bad.

You may want to remove the wool from your eyes

are you qualified to give medical advice?

[Rosie Cotton]

Originally Posted by racer5.0stang

If evil doesn't exist, then why are we killing each other, raping women, killing babies, and any other sort?

If evil doesn't exist in the spiritual sense, then who is Satan?

You may want to remove the wool from your eyes.

Evil is subjective. What is evil to you might not be to someone else.