what's the deal with young females

[TurdBerglar]

i work in a supermarket with a broad range of people from all ages. i work in the backroom and most of us back there are guys between the ages of 20-27 with the managers being 35+. up front with the registers it's mostly a plethora of females still in high school. up front there's always a heavy rotation of people quitting and getting hired. there's always 2-3 young females that come and go that just cause a bit of drama when it comes to trying to get attention from all the guys in the back room. they'll just try to be flirty and attention seeking with us and we want nothing to do with them just because THEY'RE KIDS. it gets really awkward sometimes. they can't seem to accept that we want nothing to do with them romantically based strictly on the fact that THEY'RE KIDS. i routinely overhear them saying things on why we don't talk to them is because we must think they're "ugly and fat" or "hideous and boring". since they think we think that of them they have a vendetta against us and to those females that we do actually talk to that are in our age group. they try to pick fights and just cause drama and get their guy friends to come into work and try to intimidate us which usually ends up being pretty fun. or they do the complete opposite and end up feeling completely shitty about themselves and their self esteem goes down the shitter. it's amazing how there's always at least a few girls like this there that fit this cliche mold and they end up quitting or transferring stores because everyone starts to hate them for all the shit they cause or they leave out of embarrassment. and i don't like feeling semi responsible for making a kid feel like they're worthless.

why is this shit so important to females? you never see young males doing this to older females(or do you?). when i was like 15,16,17 if some older person was trying to befriend us we would be pretty creeped out. and never mind trying to talk to a female that was that much older than us. we knew she wouldn't want anything to do with us. if we did talk to her is was mostly teasing just like little brother shithead type teasing. how come so many younger females just don't see that if an older guy is interested in them that he's almost definitely a creep? i can totally understand being attracted to older people when in you're in your mid teens but i don't understand how you can't realize that the older people (should)want nothing to do with you.

[TurdBerglar]

they don't appreciate it unless you show an interest in them. they don't care if you talk to them normally. they're looking for something more than just casual conversation. if you don't flirt back with them they get all upset. it's not the lack of talking they're pissed about it's the lack of a romantic or sexual interest.

[TurdBerglar]

it doesn't say anything about relationships. there's been plenty of relationships.

these girls typically get even more pissed if you consider them just kids.

[Bob]

maybe i should work at a supermarket...

[Yetra Flam]

They just must think that they're so cool and so incredibly attractive that no male, of any age, can resist them.

I mean, come on, aren't 16 year old girls the most interesting people? Like totally!

[TurdBerglar]

it's not just the typical popular hot chicks that act like this. all types seem to do this.

[ggirlballa]

i'm 15ish and i'm just sayin none of my friends are like that or any girls i know around my age group.

maybe u just work in an area with slutty teenage girls maybe??

[Yetra Flam]

no, the only ones you notice are the hot ones. jesus.

[TurdBerglar]

have you tried telling them that you think they're nice girls but you're just not interested in going out with someone you work with because you know/seen how awkward things can be at work when the relationship goes wrong?

no one should have to lie to them. they should just accept that they're kids.

[TurdBerglar]

i'm 15ish and i'm just sayin none of my friends are like that or any girls i know around my age group.

maybe u just work in an area with slutty teenage girls maybe??

they slut to non slut ration is just about the same as the rest of the population.

[TurdBerglar]

no matter how you reject them they feel rejected because they think you think they're not attractive. some of them understand your reasoning and some don't and refuse to see your point of view.

[Yetra Flam]

you have a ways to go when it comes to dealing with people. can't you just be nice and be done with it?

[TurdBerglar]

no

i have to be truthful


i would feel worse if i just "played nice".

[Yetra Flam]

yeah, well, people are gonna get pissed at you. what do you expect?
fuckin sociopath

[TurdBerglar]

i do not enjoy being lied to. do you? i prefer blunt honesty. that should be obvious. honesty can not harm you.

[Yetra Flam]

I like being lied to about some things, honesty about other things. i think you'll find that most females are the same.
honesty isn't necessary 100% of the time, especially when you have the potential of hurting someone's feelings.

[TurdBerglar]

i think it's pretty ridiculous to get your feelings hurt just because someone you know barely anything about thinks you're a kid.

[Yetra Flam]

yeah, but it's not that. From their point of view, you're being an unfriendly asshole and they can't work out why.

[TurdBerglar]

unfriendly does not = asshole

[Bob]

honesty can not harm you.

oh ho ho i disagree

[TurdBerglar]

ignorance is bliss?

[Bob]

in some ways yeah. i mean sometimes there are people who have these sort of obnoxious personality traits that they're apparently completely oblivious to. they obviously don't know about them because if they did, they'd have no confidence whatsoever, but they seem to carry themselves fairly confidently anyways. but you just know that if you just went up to them honestly and called them out on whatever flaws they have, you'd completely shatter their self-esteem, they'd never leave the house or speak to anyone ever again

they'd be hurt, basically

[Yetra Flam]

exactly

[TurdBerglar]

get over it

[Yetra Flam]

you're the one fucking complaining about it

[TurdBerglar]

i complaining about people that cause problems for others. i feel that's a good reason for complaining.

[Yetra Flam]

get over it

[TurdBerglar]

you're absolutely right. just continue ignoring them i guess.

[Chicka B]

Hmmm what it is, is that these teenage girls live in sort of a fantasy world. They get this idea up in their head, and if they're confident enough and in the right situation, they'll just go for it. They're so confident that they don't even think of the possibility that they could get shot down. So when they do, it completely destroys their ego and messes up their fantasy by bringing them to reality. And instead of just accepting it and moving along like a normal girl, they can't because they're too stubborn, and if they don't get their way they feel like a fool and will try to get revenge. So what you need to do to avoid all of the drama is to bring the bitch to reality before any of that shit happens. How you do that, I don't know. Just talk to them I guess.

[Waus]

Tell them you have a girlfriend.

[Chicka B]

Tell them you have a girlfriend.

Oh yeah, that's easier. Or tell 'em you're gay, then they won't try to steal you from your girlfriend. :D

[TurdBerglar]

Hmmm what it is, is that these teenage girls live in sort of a fantasy world. They get this idea up in their head, and if they're confident enough and in the right situation, they'll just go for it. They're so confident that they don't even think of the possibility that they could get shot down. So when they do, it completely destroys their ego and messes up their fantasy by bringing them to reality. And instead of just accepting it and moving along like a normal girl, they can't because they're too stubborn, and if they don't get their way they feel like a fool and will try to get revenge. So what you need to do to avoid all of the drama is to bring the bitch to reality before any of that shit happens. How you do that, I don't know. Just talk to them I guess.

this seems like a pretty reasonable explanation. i just don't understand how this thought process starts.

[Schmeltz]

Man, you know that this is only one side of the coin. Surely you remember being in your teens and being confused and awkward around the girls who were your age, girls who were totally uninterested in you and always trying to hook up with guys way older than you were, who were in university and drove their own cars and even(!) had their own apartments. Now things are just reversed and you're in the opposite position, and it turns out it's not as sweet as you thought it would be when you were 15 years old.

I work in restaurants and it's the same way with hostesses and busgirls - girls who are way too young for you but try to behave like they're more mature and independent than they really are, and naturally experiment with efforts to make (allegedly) more mature men interested in them. It's just a normal phase of life and the best way to approach it, I find, is to laugh it off. "You know what? You should date my little brother" is one I like to bring out. That way you can politely refuse them without coming across as a total asshole.

What I'm looking forward to is when these girls are in their early 20s and I'm in my late 20s. Nothing to stop you then, tell you what.

[Rawr]

Have you tried to explain to them it's not because you think their not attractive enough or whatever, but because of their age?

[Loppfessor]

You should befriend them all until their 18th b-day and start your own "Barely Legal" type porn franchise......Turd's First Timers or something like that

[paul jones]

can you tell me where the frozen peas are?

[ET]

If you would like to avoid conversation try waving your right arm, closed fist, from right to left while making this noise *click click click click click CLACK* to simulate the sound of a jail cell being closed and locked for an indefinite time period. Should work.

[TurdBerglar]

Man, you know that this is only one side of the coin. Surely you remember being in your teens and being confused and awkward around the girls who were your age, girls who were totally uninterested in you and always trying to hook up with guys way older than you were, who were in university and drove their own cars and even(!) had their own apartments. Now things are just reversed and you're in the opposite position, and it turns out it's not as sweet as you thought it would be when you were 15 years old.

I work in restaurants and it's the same way with hostesses and busgirls - girls who are way too young for you but try to behave like they're more mature and independent than they really are, and naturally experiment with efforts to make (allegedly) more mature men interested in them. It's just a normal phase of life and the best way to approach it, I find, is to laugh it off. "You know what? You should date my little brother" is one I like to bring out. That way you can politely refuse them without coming across as a total asshole.

What I'm looking forward to is when these girls are in their early 20s and I'm in my late 20s. Nothing to stop you then, tell you what.


their first experimental effort for attention seems to be getting tattoos and showing them off! hahahaha. dumb shits.

why i brought this up was that one of these girls was showing us her new tattoo. it was paw prints starting bellow her belt line and tracking towars her crotch. there was 4 of us in the break room and she wanted to show us her new tat that she was all excited about. when she started to tug down on her jeans where just all like...ummmm.... stop. we were all looking at eachother like what the hell is this weirdo doing. that really upsetted her that we didn't want to see it. this girl is always trying to talk to us and impress us.

[AceFace]

ok, i seem to remember some stuff in psyc 101 from like, i dunno, 10 years ago. children go through a progression when learning. really young kids are concrete thinkers. they pretty much think exactly what you tell them.

then as they get older they begin to form their own personalities and start to develop as an adult. these girls are slowly becoming adults, but they lack the mentality yet to make good decisions. sure a few of them could be mentally developed, but most of them know that they want attention and they should do what it takes to get it. combine that with the narcissistic world we live in (MUST HAVE PIC COMMENTS ON MYSPACE TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF!) and you've got these girls.

they want to seem grown up and want a grown up guy, but they lack the ability to really go about it the right way.

WHAT FUCKING PARENT would let their kid get a tattoo? seriously. and what young adult would possibly think that years from now they'd like that tattoo. i guess their parents haven't developed enough in their minds to make good decisions either.

[TurdBerglar]

im pretty sure the parents have no clue of the tat. im willing to bet that one of her older "real cool tatoo artist" guy friends gave it to her while she was piss drunk at a party she had no business being at.

[Schmeltz]

their first experimental effort for attention seems to be getting tattoos and showing them off! hahahaha. dumb shits.

Well, nobody said they were going to be particularly smart about it. What's the most insightful thing you've ever heard a teenager say?

[AceFace]

tattoos are the WORST idea when you're young. i know i know. that's a "drrrr" statement.

[AceFace]

true that. next one i'm getting is actually gonna be big bird tracks going down to my crotch. it'll be my tribute to all the furries out there.

[Loppfessor]

Normally I would agree with statement, but I don't think that getting a tattoo of paw prints leading to your crotch is ever a bad idea.

I know yours impressed the hell out of me....at first I was all like "Oh man we shouldn't be doing this..." then I saw it and you had me

[Lyman Zerga]

but you just know that if you just went up to them honestly and called them out on whatever flaws they have, you'd completely shatter their self-esteem, they'd never leave the house or speak to anyone ever again

they'd be hurt, basically

guess i met many turds

[cookiepuss]

I'd say that these young girls are desperatetly seeking the validation of older men because they want to be seen as women. they are just getting aquainted with their sexuality and many young women are in a hurry to grow up. of course they know nothing of what it means to be a woman, but they tend to think it has something to do with men paying attention to them sexually.

[TimDoolan]

If there's grass on the field play ball

[-T-]

their first experimental effort for attention seems to be getting tattoos and showing them off! hahahaha. dumb shits.

why i brought this up was that one of these girls was showing us her new tattoo. it was paw prints starting bellow her belt line and tracking towars her crotch. there was 4 of us in the break room and she wanted to show us her new tat that she was all excited about. when she started to tug down on her jeans where just all like...ummmm.... stop. we were all looking at eachother like what the hell is this weirdo doing. that really upsetted her that we didn't want to see it. this girl is always trying to talk to us and impress us.

haha That would be weird as hell. I would have definitely been like whoa.. WTF.

I stopped in at a party last week. Most of the guys there where like 20-23ish a few of the girls where 20ish andof course there are a few girls that show up who are 16ish..maybe. I'm guessing one has there drivers license and her friends came with. Of course there is the D-bag guys that go with the whole young girls wanting them thing. They find it as easy pussy. Its just wrong. They are just plain young and look it also. They should not be there. I will not stay at a party with a bunh of young girls wasted hanging all over you.

Even if your tempted imagine the penalties if you do something. Depends on where you live. Last year a kid down the street from me who I went to school with convicted of having sex with a minor(he was 20 she was 15?) He is now in Prison most likely being ass raped.

[-T-]

If there's grass on the field play ball

If there is no grass on the field play in the mud.(y)

[vickista]

since they think we think that of them they have a vendetta against us and to those females that we do actually talk to that are in our age group. they try to pick fights and just cause drama

well do you talk to them?

if you at least make friendly work appropriate chit chat and ignore they're flirting im sure they'll get the msg that they're not wanted (romantically) and also know that you dont hate them.

[russhie]

At my old highschool job, the guys I worked with were losers. I knew it, but I still wanted them to think I was interesting/funny/attractive. There's no way in hell I'd ever have been seen outside of work with them, let alone want to kiss/fuck them, but I still wanted them to want me. My way of thinking was fuck, if you can't impress losers who can you impress?

Even now I want to impress the guys I work with, I'm older and still feel the same way. Love to be loved I guess.

[abcdefz]

no matter how you reject them they feel rejected because they think you think they're not attractive. some of them understand your reasoning and some don't and refuse to see your point of view.



I understand what you're talking about.

The magic words are "jail" and "bait." It may not be precisely true, but just say it's illegal and you enjoy liberty and voting more than 6x9
cells and communal showers.

[TurdBerglar]

well do you talk to them?

if you at least make friendly work appropriate chit chat and ignore they're flirting im sure they'll get the msg that they're not wanted (romantically) and also know that you dont hate them.

i normally don't talk to anyone that age other than maybe a greeting or answering a question. if someone that age wants to come up to me and tell me what they did the previous night, im not interested. i'll humor them to just show them im listening but im not going to actively chit chat. what they want IS the romantic attention not just simple chit chatting. if they wanted simple chit chatting they would just chit chat and not flirt. i think i'd talk to them if they spoke to us the same way they spoke to their other work friends. but it's ALWAYS in a flirtatious tone.

[abcdefz]

Sometimes it can be really frustrating trying to just be nice to someone of the opposite sex, when you're not interested romantically. They
can take it the wrong way. And God forbid if you're thoughtful!

[TurdBerglar]

i'll admit im not nice to them. but i am competely neutral. to me neutral is entirely acceptable. being nice to them seems to give them false hope and it just intensifies the effort they try to put into getting attention from you.

[abcdefz]

Yeah -- I've had times where I had to just be civil. Not cold, but just civil, because anything else got way misinterpreted.

A woman I work with right now sometimes goes through weeks where she just acts pissed at me, then turns on all smiles, then gets
all pissed. Single mom, two kids, pretty, but I'm not interested, and I think at some point she was flirting with the idea and then
got pissed because I didn't try anything.

[TurdBerglar]

now that i think of it the females there that are in my age bracket do the same shit just not as intense. i talk to the ones that don't flirt with me and avoid the ones that do. the ones that try to be flirty with me get so pissed when they see me talking to the females that talk to me like im just a normal person. every once in a while the girls that want more attention from me will corner me and be all like..."we're so much nicer to you than those other girls! how come you don' talk to us???". they seem to see the flirtatious behavior as being nicer. i don't know about you but when someone flirts with me that im not at all interested in it kinda grosses me out. im not interested any girl that i work with. i've dated girls that i've worked with before and it pretty much sucks.

[TurdBerglar]

or maybe im just perceiving normal niceness as flirtatious...


either way i don't like the extra attention.

[Dorothy Wood]

you should just tell them that desperation isn't attractive. barring the fact that teenage girls are the worst creatures on earth, a lot of girls and women of all ages behave this way throughout their lives because they somehow believe that a man's attention is the most important thing in life.

I'm friends with a lot of dudes, and I think a lot of it has to do with me not hitting on them. of course, I've wanted to bang most or all of them at one point or another, but even then, I didn't fawn all over them.

there was this one chick who was trying get with like three of my dudes and once we were at this party and one guy and I were playing badminton. she comes over to him and was like, "heyyy, what are you doing?" and he was like, "uhh, playing badminton with dorothy". and she kept on interrupting the game and wanted to play and she somehow hit the birdie into a tree, so my friend climbed up to bat it out with the racket and she was at the bottom like, "here, throw it to me!" and he was like, "get out of the way!" and then the racket dropped and hit her in the head. and she got all upset and tried to milk that as hard as she could...but nobody really cared. it was really annoying and completely embarrassing and pointless of her. and she's a goodlooking girl...just desperate as fuck and it shows.

ugh, I hate girls so much.

[TurdBerglar]

every girl i have been attracted to has been the type that would greet you by calling you a dicknose followed by a shove.

"hey, dicknose!" *shoves*

"what's up, pussylips!" *shoves back*

*goofy chuckles*

that's my kinda lady.


i hate all that unneeded tension that goes along with trying to be proper and not yourself

[paul jones]

every girl i have been attracted to has been the type that would greet you by calling you a dicknose followed by a shove.

"hey, dicknose!" *shoves*

"what's up, pussylips!" *shoves back*

*goofy chuckles*

that's my kinda lady.


i hate all that unneeded tension that goes along with trying to be proper and not yourself


someone needs to make Turdberglar the movie,serious(y)

[TurdBerglar]

can there be a drunk camel in it?

[russhie]

Look, in my experience being nice to guys has gotten me further than being a cold bitch. It's just the way it goes. Guys might say they just want all girls to act 'normal' and be a 'normal' friend, but if someone they percieve as attractive is unfreindly to them they usually get cold and distant themselves.

And it goes the other way, too. Why are only girls singled out as exhibiting desperate/flirty behaviour? It's okay for the guys at work to call me gorgeous or babe or honey, try and charm me into getting them a coffee or doing their paperwork, but then it's not cool for me to giggle at their lame jokes, smile real big at them or have a chat to them about my social life - then that's uneccessarily flirtacious, right?

I'm not an attractive person, but I'm going to use whatever I've got to get where I want. If that means playing the bimbo card a bit and putting up with 'charming' co-workers, then fine. I think there's alot of girls like me that you can't write off as desperate - more savvy.

[TurdBerglar]

i don't do that kinda shit though

[Yetra Flam]

I'd love to be treated like an attractive female rather than treated like a dude or just ignored. where do i sign up?

[russhie]

Yeah, well, part of being a young girl is testing how attractive you are. Lots of girls are naturally percieved as being flirty, even when there's no attraction, or are just testing to see what they can get away with, whatever.

I seriously doubt they're upset that you and your co-workers specifically don't find them attractive, it seems more like they're annoyed with themselves. The whole "I must'nt be attractive" "I must've said something stupid" thing.

[TurdBerglar]

im trying to make a joke here but i can't think of the word for those schools where posh girls go to become a proper lady.

[Yetra Flam]

finishing schools?

[TurdBerglar]

yeah but there's a better more technical term

[Yetra Flam]

deportment schools or something?

[TurdBerglar]

nah

that's not it. anyways the joke is ruined now.

[paul jones]

can there be a drunk camel in it?

yeah and the midget laughing at it

[TurdBerglar]

but i wanted to be the midget!

[mikizee]

I'm short enough to be a midget, I'm only 5'6 or 5'7 or something.

Chicks don't dig short dudes. I've never heard a girl say 'Oh, I want to meet someone short dark and handsome!'

[Yetra Flam]

whenever i see a man shorter than me, i stand up really straight and tall. kinda making them feel shorter :(

[mikizee]

That makes me feel much better

[Yetra Flam]

hey, i figure it guys always make girls feel insecure. restoring the balance!

[mikizee]

True. I just wish they would restore the balance on someone else.

I'm already the most insecure person you will ever meet.

An insecure person posting on the internet!!! Who'd a thunk it!

[Knuckles]

True. I just wish they would restore the balance on someone else.

I'm already the most insecure person you will ever meet.

An insecure person posting on the internet!!! Who'd a thunk it!

Dude, men shouldn't care about height. Many a short man has scored hot chicks.

Prince, Angus Young, Davy Jones, Henry Winkler, Mickill...

[Lyman Zerga]

I'd love to be treated like an attractive female rather than treated like a dude or just ignored. where do i sign up?

sign me up aswell

but today some creep on a creeped bicycle started talking to me and was all like 'hey princess, how are you princess?' i ignored him
then he drove away and stopped soon again and waited till i walked by and said the same crap again :confused: good thing he had trouble with his bicycle so i could escape
he kinda looked/acted like he never had a gf before

i was really nervous in that situation but i guess i cant ask for any better! and it cheered me up some even when he was just some fat creep

[Lyman Zerga]

Excuse me, I've seen pictures, and both of you need to shut the fuck up now.

Really.

yeah for a second i forgot all the countless boyfriends i had..and all the cards and chocolate i got on valentines day!

but whatever MARRIED man SLUT!

and p.s. stop looking at our pictures especially with that cock in your hand!

Really. :P

[Dorothy Wood]

I agree with turd on a lot of things in here...perhaps I'm a bit less crude. or not, I mean, I call my boyfriend "butthole" and often greet a room of people with "what's up sluts".

I don't really get the flirting game...I mean, I get it. I used to work at a craft store and the stock boy always flirted with me...but I never flirted back and I totally hated him. but then I started to like him of course. and we dated. but I was 18 and a retard.

making fun of people is a sort of flirting anyway, a much more funny and less gross sort of flirting. but that's just my opinion. If someone called me "gorgeous", "babe", or "honey", I'd fucking punch them in the balls. russhie, why is it necessary for you to indulge those men by giggling at their "lame" jokes or playing the "bimbo card"? you have to do those things to "get where you want" or as you said being nice "gets you farther"? where are you going and what do you want to get? why does it matter that you play the game of being objectified, rather than getting by on your own merits as a skilled person?

I just don't get it. I'm not willing to play those games.

[AceFace]

I'm short enough to be a midget, I'm only 5'6 or 5'7 or something.

Chicks don't dig short dudes. I've never heard a girl say 'Oh, I want to meet someone short dark and handsome!'

dude short stocky is where it's AT! i hate me some tall skinny dudes!

[-T-]

5'6" or 7" is not really that short anyways. Would you rather be a tall lanky gump?

[Loppfessor]

5'6" or 7" is not really that short anyways. Would you rather be a tall lanky gump?

Yeah! I'm 5'7" 3/4 and and it's GREAT! LLCool L is what they call me cus Ladies Love Cool Lopp

[Dorothy Wood]

I like the way lanky dudes look. but I've got my own munchkin, he's maybe an inch taller than me. we're a couple of lil' honeybaked hams. it works out pretty well.

[mikizee]

5'6" or 7" is not really that short anyways. Would you rather be a tall lanky gump?

Yes, yes I would.

At least then I could play basketball.

Did you guys ever do a thing at high school where a company comes out and puts you thru all these fitness tests and then does a computer print out at the end of the day that tells you the sport that you would be most suited to?

All my friend's print outs came out saying basketball, football, rugby, etc...

Mine said ping pong.

I'm not joking.

Worst day of my life.

[Knuckles]

Yes, yes I would.

At least then I could play basketball.

Did you guys ever do a thing at high school where a company comes out and puts you thru all these fitness tests and then does a computer print out at the end of the day that tells you the sport that you would be most suited to?

All my friend's print outs came out saying basketball, football, rugby, etc...

Mine said ping pong.

I'm not joking.

Worst day of my life.

That's pretty funny.

[TurdBerglar]

did they make you do a mile run at 7:30 in the morning? i hated that shit. no one would run except for maybe 3 or 4 out of the 40 in the class. we'd all walk. they'd try to motivate us and we'd just look at them with a pretty disgusted look.

[Knuckles]

Yeah, running the mile in pe was fucked up.

I've got b-ball practice today fucker! I'm not running around this stupid track for no reason.

[Yetra Flam]

Gym was so great for asthmatic kids, and especially when you had a teacher who thought that you just had to run a couple of k's and your attacks will be all gone.

[Knuckles]

Gym was so great for asthmatic kids, and especially when you had a teacher who thought that you just had to run a couple of k's and your attacks will be all gone.

Did you have an inhaler?

[Yetra Flam]

still do :(

I get itchy skin rashes too, i'm just all round lucky.

[Knuckles]

That sucks. Not being able to breathe right would freak me out.

[Yetra Flam]

it's why i feel such a close and personal connection with darth vader

[vickista]

if they wanted simple chit chatting they would just chit chat and not flirt. i think i'd talk to them if they spoke to us the same way they spoke to their other work friends. but it's ALWAYS in a flirtatious tone.

well sometimes girls are stupid and although they might want to just chat they dont know how to approach a male so they flirt, because generally it gets guys talking to them.

[russhie]

making fun of people is a sort of flirting anyway, a much more funny and less gross sort of flirting. but that's just my opinion. If someone called me "gorgeous", "babe", or "honey", I'd fucking punch them in the balls. russhie, why is it necessary for you to indulge those men by giggling at their "lame" jokes or playing the "bimbo card"? you have to do those things to "get where you want" or as you said being nice "gets you farther"? where are you going and what do you want to get? why does it matter that you play the game of being objectified, rather than getting by on your own merits as a skilled person?

I just don't get it. I'm not willing to play those games.

Maybe you don't feel the need to. That's fine.

I don't mind being called babe. I don't mind being called gorgeous. I'm fine with it because I know that it's coming from people for whom it's natural to say those things - a personality trait, like you greeting people with the word slut. I don't fall over myself thinking "oh gosh he must like me" because I'm smarter than that.

From the moment I hit puberty I've been objectified by a good proportion of the boys/men I've known. I don't have many male friends because several couldn't see past the fact that I have breasts and am a friendly person - that instantly seems to mark you as being "easy".

I've been called a slut, a two dollar whore, a cocksucking bitch, a tease by guys who couldn't "crack me". Nevermind that I've been in a committed relationship for the best part of a decade, or that the people spouting this shit were considered friends, not potential suitors.

This is why I play along. I have talent. I have skills. I will get along on my own merit, one day. It's just that these things pale in comparison to having breasts and a smile and a perky demenour. I've convinced myself that I'll have the last laugh one day - show them all I'm better than that -but until then I'll use whatever I have at my disposal in order to utilse my "real" skills & talents...eventually.

Wether I like it or not, it's a game I feel I've been forced into playing, because of my appearance or because of my personality - who knows. I'm not going to change who I am so I no longer have to play "games". People will see in you whatever they want to see in you. As long as I'm comfortable that I'm not crossing any lines.

[cosmo105]

no offense lady, but it sure sounds like you're trying awful hard to convince yourself of something or make excuses.


i'm not comfortable getting attention like that, especially from strangers. i've never felt comfortable with dressing in clothes that are very revealing, and the feeling of being objectified or ogled is vile to me. i've never been one to be jealous of girls that use it to their advantage, or desperately seek out that kind of attention - it sort of makes me roll my eyes and mutter to myself, if anything. even if i did have the sort of body that would allow for that stuff, i don't think i would ever use it that way. the thing is, i don't want to associate myself with the type of people to whom that appeals. i DO want to be judged by my own merits, exclusively.

[TurdBerglar]

most guys don't take seriously or in some cases even respect the type of females that look for attention or play those "games".

once you walk away the guy will probably be like, "hahaha! fucking idiot!", and shake his head with a shit eating grin and turn to his buddies and call you a chicken head.

the reason they keep the interest is the chance the female might want some dick. it's not because they respect you or even like you.

[cosmo105]

mhm. i'd rather have the respect. maybe i have to work a little harder than someone that can smile and jiggle her way to the top, but when i get there i'll know it's all because of my capabilities.

[cosmo105]

got it at ikea

[Yetra Flam]

i don't know, i suppose it's a case of the grass is greener.
i don't particularly care for the dude treatment, but fuck even people that don't know me personally seem to think i'm dude-like.
not necessarily in appearance, but i suppose my brashness and the things i choose to talk about.
i would like things to be different, i think being treated like an attractive female is something special. As turd says, like an exotic sports car.
I dunno, i think it would be a good thing to get attention.

[cosmo105]

then why do you so vehemently, hypocritically trash women that do get that kind of attention? is it just an expression of your own insecurities? you've got to make peace with the fact that other women are like this in order to accept and validate your own desires to be accepted and viewed as an attractive woman.

[Yetra Flam]

mostly because i don't think it's fair. at all. it's extremely unfair

[cosmo105]

what's unfair? the fact that they get that attention? if they put themselves out on display like that, then of course that's what they're going to get. if you're not the type to do that, and are not into that sort of thing, of course you're not going to get guys drooling over you. i'm fine with that. anyone can get a fake tan and plastic smile and take a zillion pictures of herself at flattering angles showing tons of skin, and she'll get guys going crazy for her. and if that's what she wants, more power to her. it's up to you how you carry yourself and how you want to be seen. if you want to put yourself out like that, then do it. if you don't, then don't.

[Yetra Flam]

i really don't think "anyone" can do it. i know that i could not possibly pull it off. i dunno, i just think that's unfortunate, there's things in life that i won't be able to achieve, people i won't be able to influence

[cosmo105]

:rolleyes:

look at gnarly "hottie" that got kicked off a plane. she can get attention from guys, because she presents herself in a way that garners that kind of attention, regardless of her looks.

there is NOTHING stopping you from getting the same. you're a woman, with a woman's body and a woman's face. trust me. if that's what you want, you are fully capable of getting it. the only thing stopping you is you.

[Yetra Flam]

i suppose it's a matter of confidence, right?

[cosmo105]

yup. you need to work more on your own before you can berate other women about their choices.

[Yetra Flam]

hey, i always try to berate all people equally