old people, lol

[Nuzzolese]

Originally Posted by b i o n i c

there are still just as many people like that around. and there were just as many dumb people back then as now

Yes, and that's the whole point I think, that they are no worse than you or me. They were young in their day, we are/were young in ours.


Or, maybe not.

[ericlee]

It's just a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and knowing when to take charge.

As in Christopher Walken's theory on Conan a while back, he described men as having the mentality of 8 year olds and once they reach 8, it's the ending of their aging.

He said Conan was different and stopped aging at 5 though.

[hpdrifter]

I felt pretty old the other day. I went to the mall and when I came out there was a kid wearing a black Nirvana sweatshirt, you know the black one with the yellow smiley face with the "X"s for eyes? Anyway, he had this long stringy greasy hair and I thought, what the crap, is it somehow 1993 again?

I felt like he had co-opted my high school years. What does he know about it anyway? It's not my fault that all his worthless generation contributed to the world is the teen pop explosion of the early 00s.

[b i o n i c]

so, then what does it mean to be young?

[b i o n i c]

Originally Posted by hpdrifter

I felt like he had co-opted my high school years. What does he know about it anyway? It's not my fault that all his worthless generation contributed to the world is the teen pop explosion of the early 00s.

i think a bunch of us here probably do that and i think the instinct is to protect the value of our experiences. i always try to catch myself when i feel that way. in the 90s we were coopting the 60s & 70s.. beatles, stones, led zep. instead of just laughing at them, i try to laugh and smile as i smack the back of their heads. theyre doing what they should be doing

[hpdrifter]

Well I guess I'd say that's what it means to be young, then.

[b i o n i c]

Originally Posted by ms.peachy

just think we are a lot softer, on the whole.

do you think that a generation of the 1910's were softer than a generation of the 1810's?

[ms.peachy]

Originally Posted by b i o n i c

do you think that a generation of the 1910's were softer than a generation of the 1810's?

I don't know enough about either 1910 or 1810 to have an opinion about that. I can only compare the things for which I have a frame of reference.

edited to add: It just occurred to me that you are thinking I am making a statement about the differences being down to time, some sort of romanticising of an older generation. I'm more talking about something that is a result of enculturation, sort of the 'consequence of plenty', if you see what I mean. It has happened throughout history, it's not a 20th century phenomenon.

[Adam]

All I seem to do is quote all day, its cus I don't have any of my own opinions.

We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self-control." These words - expressing the all-too-familiar contemporary condemnation of young people - were actually inscribed on a 6,000-year-old Egyptian tomb.

Later, in the fourth century BC, Plato was heard to remark: "What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets, inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"

And then, a few hundred years later, in AD1274, Peter the Hermit joined the chorus. "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint ... As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behaviour and dress."

source

[b i o n i c]

yup. ^

i like to say to people who complain how the world keeps getting 'worse', how life is getting tougher, how much better things used to be... things were shitty back then. they've always been "shitty". and further back in time you go, the shittier it probably was. except for some random farts in time (egypt, rome, the maya or whatever) in relatively small portions of the world at a time, the harder life was. in that sense, yeah, i can see how you think that in general we're soft, peach.

does it make one that much of a better person to have washed clothes by hand in freezing water? or had to walk 10 miles a day to school? no, it probably means arthritis and gnarley corns. people will marvel someday at how we had to type each one of these words one letter at a time with our fingers, but all it really means is carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Nuzzolese]

Originally Posted by ericlee

It's just a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and knowing when to take charge.

As in Christopher Walken's theory on Conan a while back, he described men as having the mentality of 8 year olds and once they reach 8, it's the ending of their aging.

He said Conan was different and stopped aging at 5 though.

I don't understand your point. What, exactly, is a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and when to take charge? Are you referring to old age being the balance?

And how does Walken's comment explain this? You're saying that all men aged 8 and above are the same, and have the mentality of an 8 year old?

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

i am almost 29 and a half. i still get my hair cut by my mum. i plan on remaining a slightly immature 27 until i am 38. not sure what to do after that.

[Nuzzolese]

I enjoy ice milk while waving at people from my front porch rocker.

[ms.peachy]

Originally Posted by b i o n i c

except for some random farts in time (egypt, rome, the maya or whatever) in relatively small portions of the world at a time, the harder life was.

I think the argument can be made though that we are at the beginning of the end of a similar epoch overall, in the long view of history, starting with the seeds of the industrial revolution. There are of course scholars who have already drawn the comparison between modern Western society and the end days of the Roman Empire. Not that I expect we are about to plunge into a new Dark Ages necessarily (although it's possible) - none of us will be around to see how it plays out in the view of historians - or that we are at some sort of apocalyptic Biblical "end of days"; just that I think it's probably we're reaching the end bracket of an era overall.

[hpdrifter]

Lucky us

[ericlee]

Originally Posted by Nuzzolese

I don't understand your point. What, exactly, is a balance of knowing when to act kiddish and when to take charge? Are you referring to old age being the balance?

And how does Walken's comment explain this? You're saying that all men aged 8 and above are the same, and have the mentality of an 8 year old?

I mean loosen up once and a while. Too many people are too worried about acting "their age" and are uptight and boring making them feel old.

And for Walken's words, well they're his words. You'll have to ask him what he means.

[Lyman Zerga]

Originally Posted by b i o n i c

go get laid already

turns out im not layable at all

[paul jones]

this guy doesn't worry about being old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvkmqbgUU_E

[funk63]

^old school

[Nuzzolese]

Originally Posted by ericlee

I mean loosen up once and a while. Too many people are too worried about acting "their age" and are uptight and boring making them feel old.

And for Walken's words, well they're his words. You'll have to ask him what he means.

So people who worry too much about being old need to find the balance that you have found, between acting kiddish and taking charge. Do you think taking charge means maturity?

Why would you quote someone if you didn't really know what they meant or how it relates to your own comments?

[Kid Presentable]

Just live and shut the fuck up, already.

[AceFace]

speaking of old. there's this old guy here. he's in his 70s. that's old to me.

anyway i keep watching him go into a person's office that isn't here today, open his closet up and steal his candy. he then puts it in his pocket, walks slowly bye me as if i don't know and then immediately eats it when he's past me and into his office.

i just keep hearing wrappers rattling back there. i wonder how much he's taken!?

[Kid Presentable]

Originally Posted by AceFace

speaking of old. there's this old guy here. he's in his 70s. that's old to me.

anyway i keep watching him go into a person's office that isn't here today, open his closet up and steal his candy. he then puts it in his pocket, walks slowly by me as if i don't know and then immediately eats it when he's past me and into his office.

i just keep hearing wrappers rattling back there. i wonder how much he's taken!?

yam

[b i o n i c]

old is bold.

[ET]

I'll consider myself "old" when I can't wipe my own ass anymore.

[ericlee]

Originally Posted by Nuzzolese

So people who worry too much about being old need to find the balance that you have found, between acting kiddish and taking charge. Do you think taking charge means maturity?

Why would you quote someone if you didn't really know what they meant or how it relates to your own comments?

too many questions.

/head in hands

[zippo]

Originally Posted by taquitos

you're only as old as you feel

i really do go by this, but theres a limit, im thinking youre old when you turn 40. you cant say youre 40 and say youre young.

but this is probably like how we all thought 30 was old when we were 12, we´ll be 70 and laugh at how we thought 40 was old, when its so "young"! i cant see it like that right now though, im too young. this is so relative.

[rirv]

My grandpa was 68 when I was born, so I've always remembered him as being 70+. He is now 91. He's always seemed the same age to me - old. Twenty years have passed and he seems the same age, is there a difference between 70 and 90? There is between 0 and 20, 10 and 30, 20 and 40, 30 and 50 etc. But old is old I guess. thoughts?

[ms.peachy]

Great, 3 weeks until I'm officially old. Super.

[b i o n i c]

Originally Posted by zippo

i really do go by this, but theres a limit, im thinking youre old when you turn 40. you cant say youre 40 and say youre young.

but this is probably like how we all thought 30 was old when we were 12, we´ll be 70 and laugh at how we thought 40 was old, when its so "young"! i cant see it like that right now though, im too young. this is so relative.

she came out from the shadows. people don't age in the shadows