The more I listen to Eminem, the more it relates to my life

[SuperZenki]

This is odd. My friend burned me a couple of CDs from Eminem, and I've noticed that the more I listen to him now, the more his lyrics relate to my life. The songs that most relate to my life are Mosh, White America, Mockingbird, and Cleanin' Out The Closet. Mosh is basically bashing Bush in the song, and I like that kind of attitude, and also like bashing him. White America talks about how he didn't know more people felt the way he did about America and stuff, and felt patriotic, but wasn't sure about others (or something like that). Mockingbird talks about the way things went downhill with a family (perhaps his; I've noticed he talks about this Hailie chick in alot of songs, but I don't know who that is). The same thing has kinda happened with mine, but I won't go itno detail. Cleanin' Out The Closet is definietely one that relates to my life. My mom yells alot at my sister, and is annoying, and exaggerates about stuff, and so on. Now look at the lyrics...

Now I would never diss my own mama just to get recognition, take a second to listen who you
think this record is dissin', but put yourself in my position, just try to envision witnessin'
your Mama poppin' prescription pills in the kitchen, "censored"in' that someone's always goin'
through her purse and "censored"s missin', going through public housing systems, victim of Munchausen's syndrome, my whole life I was made to believe I was sick when I wasn't 'til I grew
up, now I blew up, it makes you sick to ya' stomach, doesn't it, wasn't it the reason you made
that Cd for me, ma, so you could try to justify the way you treated me, ma, but guess what, your
gettin' older now and it's cold when your lonely, and Nathan's growing up so quick, he's gonna know that your phoney, and Hailie's getting so big now, you should see her, she's beautiful, but you'll never see her, she won't even be at your funeral, see what hurts me the most is you won't
admit you was wrong, "censored", do your song, keep tellin' yourself that you was a mom, but how dareyou try to take what you didn't help me to get, you selfish "censored", I hope you "censored"in' burn in
hello for this "censored", remember when Ronnie died and you said you wished it was me, well guess
what, I am dead, dead to you as can be...

Now what are your thoughts on this? Is it because Eminem tries to rap more about life, so people can take a hard look at it and they realize what's really going on? Perhaps the above lyrics were how his mother actually treated him.

[DroppinScience]

Hailey is Eminem's daughter, dawg.

[ASsman]

So, you live in a trailer park?

[Documad]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

Now I would never diss my own mama just to get recognition, take a second to listen who you
think this record is dissin', but put yourself in my position, just try to envision witnessin'
your Mama poppin' prescription pills in the kitchen, "censored"in' that someone's always goin'
through her purse and "censored"s missin', going through public housing systems, victim of Munchausen's syndrome, my whole life I was made to believe I was sick when I wasn't 'til I grew
up, now I blew up, it makes you sick to ya' stomach, doesn't it, wasn't it the reason you made
that Cd for me, ma, so you could try to justify the way you treated me, ma, but guess what, your
gettin' older now and it's cold when your lonely, and Nathan's growing up so quick, he's gonna know that your phoney, and Hailie's getting so big now, you should see her, she's beautiful, but you'll never see her, she won't even be at your funeral, see what hurts me the most is you won't
admit you was wrong, "censored", do your song, keep tellin' yourself that you was a mom, but how dareyou try to take what you didn't help me to get, you selfish "censored", I hope you "censored"in' burn in
hello for this "censored", remember when Ronnie died and you said you wished it was me, well guess
what, I am dead, dead to you as can be...

Hey, where did you get the lyrics? Did you "censor" them to protect us from the raw truth, or are you looking at a clean version of the CD. Does he want his mom to burn in "hello" in the clean version?

That's kind of sweet if you're typing this out and censoring it for us.

[SuperZenki]

http://www.a-z.lyrics.com

I didn't censor them myself, I copied them from the above site, then posted this on another site. I forgot that that site has censors, and didn't notice it when I posted it. If you want to see the un-edited version, go to the above site, I'm too lazy to fix them, since I have a post explaining them.

[Sandinista!]

Eminem embodies all that's wrong in America.

[Bob]

what, all of it?

[Sandinista!]

Originally Posted by Bob

what, all of it?

Yep, everything from shameless marketing of disgusting smut to the infusion of "ghetto" culture onto impressionable youngsters.

[tdot04]

There's only so many ways to bitch about your family, other artists, your childhood, etc.

Eminem's exhausted them all.

[SuperZenki]

Originally Posted by Sandista!

Eminem embodies all that's wrong in America.

Originally Posted by Sandinista!

Yep, everything from shameless marketing of disgusting smut to the infusion of "ghetto" culture onto impressionable youngsters.

Exactly. I try to do things about things when they go wrong in America. If I could get ahold of a tank to show Bush what's what, I would. But he does things by rapping about them. Maybe people aren't actually influenced to go steal a tank, but he's earned respect points for Mosh and White America.

[The Notorious LOL]

actually hes very talented and if he sold a tenth of what he did and talked about "the body rock" or french toast or some shit...every single kid on this site would jock him.

[WhoMoi?]

Originally Posted by tdot04

There's only so many ways to bitch about your family, other artists, your childhood, etc.

Eminem's exhausted them all.

Exactly.
I think he's a talented guy but it gets boring hearing about the same stuff all the time. We get it, you had a tough life, your wife did you wrong and you want to kill her, you love your daughter, blah blah blah. Get some new topics.

[cosmo105]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

Exactly. I try to do things about things when they go wrong in America. If I could get ahold of a tank to show Bush what's what, I would. But he does things by rapping about them. Maybe people aren't actually influenced to go steal a tank, but he's earned respect points for Mosh and White America.

he's saying that Eminem IS what's wrong with America, not that he's TALKING about what's wrong with America.

[Sandinista!]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

Maybe people aren't actually influenced to go steal a tank, but he's earned respect points for Mosh and White America.

Friendless wiggas and pea-brained teenage girls are always a valid constituency for artistic geniuses

[Mr Films]

Originally Posted by The Notorious LOL

actually hes very talented and if he sold a tenth of what he did and talked about "the body rock" or french toast or some shit...every single kid on this site would jock him.

well put, for real

[nobbus]

just because the music industry is a huge scam and major labels dont give a fuck about music dosent mean 'white america', for example, isnt still a good song.
but I dont like it when he gets whiney.

[goofball]

Originally Posted by Slimm

why dosn't he go back to his backpackin image days he had like in the SoundBoming Dayz where he just floated around and ripped up mics.


I guess money changes everything.

you said it man. thats why i cant stand him, he wastes his talent to make stupid songs so more people will listen. i must say he does have some good songs, but i still dont like him.

[SuperZenki]

Originally Posted by cosmo105

he's saying that Eminem IS what's wrong with America, not that he's TALKING about what's wrong with America.

If he raps about the issues, I fail to see how he's the problem with America.

And even if he is a problem, he's not close to being the biggest problem in America. Hopefully you all know of a man named George W. Bush.

Originally Posted by WhoMoi

Exactly.
I think he's a talented guy but it gets boring hearing about the same stuff all the time. We get it, you had a tough life, your wife did you wrong and you want to kill her, you love your daughter, blah blah blah. Get some new topics.

What, would you rather have him start rapping about girls, like most other rappers? I respect your opinion, but the fact that he raps about the problems with his family and America and such is what separates him from other rappers. But I partly agree with you that he should rap abot more than family problems and stuff like that, but I still like him.

Originally Posted by Sandista!

Friendless wiggas and pea-brained teenage girls are always a valid constituency for artistic geniuses

Could someone give me a translation of this in English?

[tdot04]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

Could someone give me a translation of this in English?

I'd love to.

À l'origine signalé par Sandinista!
Les gens qui n'ont aucun ami et agissent noir et pois brained les filles d'adolescent sont toujours un collège électoral valide pour les génies artistiques.

[WhoMoi?]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

What, would you rather have him start rapping about girls, like most other rappers? I respect your opinion, but the fact that he raps about the problems with his family and America and such is what separates him from other rappers. But I partly agree with you that he should rap abot more than family problems and stuff like that, but I still like him.

I didn't say he should rap about things other rappers are talking about. I'm just sick of hearing the same subject matter in HIS music all the time. I say the same thing about rappers who always talk about girls or bling, or whatever. I'd say the same thing about ANY artist who used the same content over and over in their lyrics.

I really don't think his subject matter is that impressive or different. A lot of rappers rap about how they had it tough growing up, and pretty much everyone and their brother is doing songs about the state of the nation. As a woman, it is hard not to hate some of the stuff he's said in the past. I don't think it's thought-provoking or funny to hear him talk in detail about tying his wife up and throwing her in the trunk; I just think it's tasteless and irresponsible to say something like that in this crazy world we live in today.

When it comes to Eminem, I am really just impressed with his freestyling and overall rapping skills.

[tdot04]

Originally Posted by WhoMoi?

When it comes to Eminem, I am really just impressed with his freestyling and overall rapping skills.

Likewise. Very likewise.

It would be wrong to say that he doesn't have talent, it's really just the way he uses (or neglects) it that really bugs me.

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

What, would you rather have him start rapping about girls, like most other rappers?

Turn off the radio bud, there are countless other rappers out there with more creative subject matter than Eminem.

[SuperZenki]

Originally Posted by tdot04

I'd love to.

RDRR

Originally Posted by WoMoi

I didn't say he should rap about things other rappers are talking about. I'm just sick of hearing the same subject matter in HIS music all the time. I say the same thing about rappers who always talk about girls or bling, or whatever. I'd say the same thing about ANY artist who used the same content over and over in their lyrics.

Fine fine, I'm not trying to convert you or anything

[tdot04]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

RDRR

Dude, you've used that one on me before, remember?

Please ridicule me in another fashion, thanks.

[Matt]

wow, this is the gayest thread I have ever read in my life.

[Auton]

the kid likes eminem. big deal.
yeah, it might not be the best thread, but whatever... there have been worse- like half of what's in the general beastie boys forum right now.

[SuperZenki]

Originally Posted by tdot04

Dude, you've used that one on me before, remember?

Please ridicule me in another fashion, thanks.

You mean you bothered reading my response before the ICP thread was closed? Ha. It's true I ahve used that one on you, but just because I'm using it for the second time doesn't mean it's gotten old. I mean, jokes can last for weeks and still be funny.

Originally Posted by Matt

wow, this is the gayest thread I have ever read in my life

Then why did you post here? I wasn't asking for your comments on the thread, I was asking for your comments on how Eminem relates to my life, and possibly what you think of him. If you think it's gay that his lyrics relate to my life...then whatever.

Originally Posted by Slimm

hey man at least you burnt the Cd's and didn't buy 'em ?

A friend burned them for me, but I would consider Encore an album I would buy if I didn't own it, and couldn't get ahold of it for free. Not sure about The Eminem show, but it's not that bad of an album. I'm just surprised I didn't get the actual copy, they were my friend's brother, until he watched 8 Mile and cryed.

[nobbus]

download the marshall mathers LP. better than those 2 albums.

[Sandinista!]

Originally Posted by SuperZenki

Could someone give me a translation of this in English?

That was sarcasm; you'll learn about it in 6th grade

[ProfJIM]

ahahahaha, okay, that was a good one.

[RT400z]

I'm personally not a big fan of Eminem, but I definitly can relate to a lot of his lyrics about hs life. I used to be really irritated by Eminem and saw him as whiny, but when you think about it a lot of rappers bitch about their life. In fact, I would say probably about 95% in mainstream rap. I think it's good to rap about what you went through because it exposes people to the things that are going on in the world and gives others something to relate to. Eminem's music seems to become more and more watered down, but when he freestyles he is actually waaaaaay better than would ever expect him to be.