Freedom of expression??

[fucktopgirl]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=311265590

Check it out!! THis is unbelievable....

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...c h&plindex=1

Disturbing peace? wtf the guy was asking a question that they did not liked, obviously!

[yeahwho]

sad, our country is pathetic, questions frighten the status quo into violence.

[fucktopgirl]

^ yeah, questionning about what they are doing up there is a crime, we have to shut our mouth and be nice little sheep that bêeeeeeh and are happy with what they are fed with: BUllshit.

I just realize that this have been already post by turd...

Anyway, that does not remove the effect of it.

[Waus]

Whatever. This guy was being a twat - every student was given a certain amount of time to ask whatever questions they wish, and he just kept going and going long past his turn. Not to mention he was just being dramatic and trying to make a scene...totally discouraging the open discussion format with John Kerry.

It has nothing to do with the questions he was asking, it has everything to do with him being an ass and ruining it for everyone else.

[abcdefz]

Originally Posted by Waus

Whatever. This guy was being a twat - every student was given a certain amount of time to ask whatever questions they wish, and he just kept going and going long past his turn. Not to mention he was just being dramatic and trying to make a scene...totally discouraging the open discussion format with John Kerry.

It has nothing to do with the questions he was asking, it has everything to do with him being an ass and ruining it for everyone else.

[fucktopgirl]

It has everything to do with the question he was asking.

They did not tolerate him because he was openly questioning why Kerry, who supposedly had win the election , did not fight back when it was obvious that they cheated the election. Like i said in the other thread, maybe he was not calm enough , if it had been calm and ask his question with a moderate tone, maybe, i said , maybe things would have been different.

[Waus]

No, he asked his question. Several. They weren't telling him not to ask that question at all. When he actually was told to sit down he wasn't even asking questions anymore, he was just making thinly veiled accusations about Kerry and Bush's relationship to the Skull and Bones connecting them through some kind of vast conspiracy.

They honestly weren't shutting him up for asking controversial questions. That's not what was going on.

[yeahwho]

Originally Posted by Waus

They honestly weren't shutting him up for asking controversial questions. That's not what was going on.

They thought he enjoyed tasering. I think he asked once how does a jolt of electricity feel?

[fucktopgirl]

Originally Posted by Waus

No, he asked his question. Several. They weren't telling him not to ask that question at all. When he actually was told to sit down he wasn't even asking questions anymore, he was just making thinly veiled accusations about Kerry and Bush's relationship to the Skull and Bones connecting them through some kind of vast conspiracy.

They honestly weren't shutting him up for asking controversial questions. That's not what was going on.

Well they are indeed related together, Bush and Kerry, and are both part of this Skulls and bones brotherhood, no conspiracy there, it is a fact, just do some research.

[Waus]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

no conspiracy there, it is a fact, just do some research.

I mean - I know that and you know that. People at the forum knew that. This is all a part of the reason the guy was told to sit down - just shouting and taking time away from everyone else's honest questions. He was claiming the Skull and Bones was some kind of power conspiracy sinister organization. He wasn't saying anything revolutionary or "opening eyes MAN!"

If I went to a forum discussion and totally ignored the rules and made my best effort to ruin the whole event for other people, I'd expect to be escorted out too.

[fucktopgirl]

Originally Posted by Waus

I mean - I know that and you know that. People at the forum knew that. This is all a part of the reason the guy was told to sit down - just shouting and taking time away from everyone else's honest questions. He was claiming the Skull and Bones was some kind of power conspiracy sinister organization. He wasn't saying anything revolutionary or "opening eyes MAN!"

If I went to a forum discussion and totally ignored the rules and made my best effort to ruin the whole event for other people, I'd expect to be escorted out too.

What rules? He just wanted to asked his questions, he was very passionated about it but so what? And bringing up that Kerry and Bush are in the same sort of club show how this election and all this administration is quite corrupt. But anyway, bottom line is, they, the police or guard, act wrongly. They abuse power by giving him electric shock . This was a good example for the students, don't fucking dare to question what your government is doing or else see what will happen.

[TurdBerglar]

yeah this guy was a dickhead. he should have gotten tasered in the nuts.

[TurdBerglar]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

What rules? He just wanted to asked his questions, he was very passionated about it but so what? And bringing up that Kerry and Bush are in the same sort of club show how this election and all this administration is quite corrupt. But anyway, bottom line is, they, the police or guard, act wrongly. They abuse power by giving him electric shock . This was a good example for the students, don't fucking dare to question what your government is doing or else see what will happen.

no

he was being an ass on purpose. he did that shit on purpose for attention. his website has all these videos of these types of "stunts".

[fucktopgirl]

do you have the link?

[TurdBerglar]

look through my thread

[fucktopgirl]

no time to digg shit up!

[Waus]

By "rules" I mean basically that it was a Q&A session, not a go-off-on-a-fucking-tangent-and-jump-on-your-imaginary-lunatic-soapbox & A session.

It's not "how dare you question your government." The police department there is having to do a shitload of paperwork now anyways to try to justify that action, it's not like it went unnoticed or like the population is quivering in fear of our police force.

http://tazeelo.ytmnd.com/

[abcdefz]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

no time to digg shit up!

Plenty of time to stay willfully ignorant, though!

[fucktopgirl]

You guys seem to forget what is important here, they shut the guy off because he asked questions that Kerry didn't wanted to answer.

It show how flexible the government is when people get off the mold or the path of how you should behave and what you should ask.


Turd, what others stunt the guy have on his site, give me example!

[fucktopgirl]

Originally Posted by abcdefz

Plenty of time to stay willfully ignorant, though!

hahaha, yea sure!!


call my saying what you want , i still stand my ground on this. I don't think my saying are ignorant, i am just stating my opinion on the matter and it is as legitimate as your.

[Waus]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

You guys seem to forget what is important here, they shut the guy off because he asked questions that Kerry didn't wanted to answer.

NOT THE ISSUE.

Kerry was willing to answer the question, but that guy wouldn't give him half a second to speak. That was the problem - the guy wouldn't SHUT UP and let the session go on. He didn't really even have a question, he just wanted to shout at the modest crowd of people who came to see the ex-presidential hopeful. No one is trying to suppress dissent, hide the truth, or discourage open discussion - that's not what this guy was interested in.

[TurdBerglar]

HE JUST WANTED ATTENTION AND A VIDEO FOR HIS WEBSITE

[abcdefz]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

hahaha, yea sure!!


call my saying what you want , i still stand my ground on this. I don't think my saying are ignorant, i am just stating my opinion on the matter and it is as legitimate as your.

Um, no it's not. Mine is based in reality.

[fucktopgirl]

Originally Posted by Waus

NOT THE ISSUE.

Kerry was willing to answer the question, but that guy wouldn't give him half a second to speak. That was the problem - the guy wouldn't SHUT UP and let the session go on. He didn't really even have a question, he just wanted to shout at the modest crowd of people who came to see the ex-presidential hopeful. No one is trying to suppress dissent, hide the truth, or discourage open discussion - that's not what this guy was interested in.

YES THE ISSUE

we will never know if Kerry would have answer, they come to take him out before. It was his turn for a question after 2 hours of listening. When the cops arrived behind him , he start to be more nervous and for a good reason. I think his observation and questioning was an unpopular stand therefore this explain why it end like it did. he was interrogating something that was not cover in the mainstream media.

[fucktopgirl]

Originally Posted by abcdefz

Um, no it's not. Mine is based in reality.

well, i have a new for you, mine too!

[Bob]

Originally Posted by fucktopgirl

You guys seem to forget what is important here, they shut the guy off because he asked questions that Kerry didn't wanted to answer.

is that why kerry was saying "no, it's alright, let me answer his question"?

Turd, what others stunt the guy have on his site, give me example!

you really haven't looked into this at all, have you? half of the news stories that reported this story report that meyer was well known for his practical jokes. i can't find the guy's site, but pretty much every story talks about them, i see no reason to believe that's not true. for example;

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/...aser19.article

Meyer has his own Web site and it contains several ''comedy'' videos that he appears in. In one, he stands in a street with a sign that says ''Harry Dies'' after the latest Harry Potter book was released. In another, he acts like a drunk while trying to pick up a woman in a bar.

The site also has what is called a ''disorganized diatribe'' attributed to Meyer that criticizes the Iraq war, the news media for not covering the conflict enough and the American public for paying too much attention to celebrity news.

no wonder you like him so much

also, the kid's attitude apparently changed a little once he got off camera.

http://media.www.browndailyherald.co...-2992542.shtml

Mallo also reported that Meyer was laughing and being lighthearted in the car - his demeanor completely changed once the cameras were not in sight. She said he asked if the cameras would be at the jail and expressed understanding for his arrest.

"Meyer stated, on the way to the jail, 'I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job,' " she reported.

i don't think they should have tasered him, that was definitely excessive, but this punk got exactly what he wanted. he wasn't there to be civil and promote intellegent discourse and freedom of expression, he was there to make a scene and provoke the police and that's what he did. kid wanted to be oppressed. nobody who wants to promote a civil discussion acts like that.

[TurdBerglar]

im sure those security guards had no clue what the fuck was being spoken about in that room anyways.

[fucktopgirl]

haha yea, like what happening ? oh, we have to take him down, alright, let get the taser on him.... They obviously follow order from somewhere.

[abcdefz]

Originally Posted by Bob

you really haven't looked into this at all, have you?

The truth will set you free. Obviously, she doesn't want that.

[fucktopgirl]

If we assume, like waus did say , that everybody know about skulls and bones, why don't they fucking talk about it on national news. Why they don't say that Kerry and Bush play golf together or bang sheep together while sipping on a nice cocktailand talk about world economic affair and such? Obviously , this is not something they want the mass population to know about it, they want the people to still think that they are in different political party and that they stand for different ideology , when in fact, they are in the same team, the neo-liberalism. So, i think the question was not something Kerry wanted to openly discuss about.