how many of you are vegetarians?

[Mcmac]

:rolleyes:


rancid beasties does that to me too when i do those random swearings at peoples for no reason

[Matt]

Boca, eww. Morningstar Farms all the way. (y)

that might be what I'm talking about.

KFC isn't chicken. KFC is an abombination.

[Medellia]

I'd have to say it's either this excellent ginger chicken from this amazing Thai place here that was called Basil Spice, but has been renamed to Thai Essence, or else my mom's homemade chicken chili. My god, so fucking good.

Sorry bout that, Zorra, Cos, Matt, etc. :o

[Mcmac]

yeah i like asian chicken too tis awesome!

MMM I LOVE KILLING ANIMALS TOO!

[Humiliation]

the other guy. Vegos are cool especially when everyone else pisses them off

[Medellia]

KFC isn't chicken. KFC is an abombination.
KFC is so gross. My roomie lived a few blocks from a KFC in high school and that place smelled awful. Forget all the other bad things about KFC, it's just a disgusting place. And that disgusting slimy skin that they leave on it... (n)

[Mcmac]

that might be what I'm talking about.

KFC isn't chicken. KFC is an abombination.

whats that? your a dickhead :rolleyes:

where have you bin matt? me and rosie cotton have missed you with all our hearts :eek:

[Matt]

I'd have to say it's either this excellent ginger chicken from this amazing Thai place here that was called Basil Spice, but has been renamed to Thai Essence, or else my mom's homemade chicken chili. My god, so fucking good.

Sorry bout that, Zorra, Cos, Matt, etc. :o

it's cool with me. I'm not the militant type, like I've said before. If you came to my house and had a hankerin' for some chicken, I'd make you some. I just wouldn't eat it :D

[Mcmac]

KFC is so gross. My roomie lived a few blocks from a KFC in high school and that place smelled awful. Forget all the other bad things about KFC, it's just a disgusting place. And that disgusting slimy skin that they leave on it... (n)

they dont leae skin on it? what are utalking about it? any way i like eating chicken skin it tastes like spicey! mmmchicken skin...but how wierd is that coz imagin eating our skin or a dogs skin or sumtin!

[Medellia]

it's cool with me. I'm not the militant type, like I've said before. If you came to my house and had a hankerin' for some chicken, I'd make you some. I just wouldn't eat it :D
I know. I just feel kinda bad going off on kinds of meat that I like eating when other people on this board make a mockery of your food choices by going "Mmmm...STEAK!!!" I wouldn't really feel bad about it if they hadn't pulled that shit early in the thread.

[Medellia]

they dont leae skin on it? what are utalking about it? any way i like eating chicken skin it tastes like spicey! mmmchicken skin...but how wierd is that coz imagin eating our skin or a dogs skin or sumtin!
:confused:
This is one of those times I'm having trouble deciphering bits of your post. They DO leave the skin on. It's bad for you, it's hard to chew, it's bad for you, it doesn't taste good, and did I mention it's bad for you? Because it's bad for you.

[Mcmac]

they dont leave the skin on is what i was saying..

well atleast not here...is all just batter over mmm stripy chicken!

[Medellia]

They leave it on here. And the chicken is stripey? I wouldn't eat that shit man.

[Matt]

I know. I just feel kinda bad going off on kinds of meat that I like eating when other people on this board make a mockery of your food choices by going "Mmmm...STEAK!!!" I wouldn't really feel bad about it if they hadn't pulled that shit early in the thread.

yeah, I just read the start of this thread. they make it seem like Vegetarians are the ones being ignorant and stupid, when, unfortunately, it's the other way around. people mask the long term health risks with their "fact" that humans were "ment" to eat meat. not entirely so. if we were ment to eat meat, then why are there so many vegetarians living and thriving, while not eating meat? I feel healthier than I have in years, and I've only been a vegetarian since last march.

[Mcmac]

They leave it on here. And the chicken is stripey? I wouldn't eat that shit man.

not stripey as in colors! but stripy as in stripy like strings... its sooooooo good.

[Humiliation]

yeah, I just read the start of this thread. they make it seem like Vegetarians are the ones being ignorant and stupid, when, unfortunately, it's the other way around. people mask the long term health risks with their "fact" that humans were "ment" to eat meat. not entirely so. if we were ment to eat meat, then why are there so many vegetarians living and thriving, while not eating meat? I feel healthier than I have in years, and I've only been a vegetarian since last march.
I'm sorry but there are a lot of health risks to vegetarians if it isn't done properly. We need meat regardless of what you say. Except now we need supplements. Not bashing vegos or anything.

And plus my dad is actually unhealthier now than he has ever been and he has only been vego since he met my stepmum. THough that's probably from other reasons

[Matt]

they dont leave the skin on is what i was saying..

well atleast not here...is all just batter over mmm stripy chicken!

you mean Chicken Strips? Well of course the skin wouldn't be on those. those are the remnants of egg laying hens that are so decomposed when they die that they can't serve them as whole pieces of chicken. they have to shred up the meat (and bones) and mold them into shapes, like nuggets and strips. But whole pieces of chicken they leave the skin on. and its soooo bad for you.

[Medellia]

yeah, I just read the start of this thread. they make it seem like Vegetarians are the ones being ignorant and stupid, when, unfortunately, it's the other way around. people mask the long term health risks with their "fact" that humans were "ment" to eat meat. not entirely so. if we were ment to eat meat, then why are there so many vegetarians living and thriving, while not eating meat? I feel healthier than I have in years, and I've only been a vegetarian since last march.
Awesome. (y)

What I love is the people at the beginning that were saying "vegetarians and vegans are so pushy. Hey you leaf munching pussies: MEATLOAF!!! STEAK!!! BBQ CHICKEN!!!" :rolleyes:

And why does it bother them anyway? It makes no sense. It's not affecting them, so why should they even care?

[Medellia]

not stripey as in colors! but stripy as in stripy like strings... its sooooooo good.
Hahaha, I know. I was taking the piss. :D

[Matt]

I'm sorry but there are a lot of health risks to vegetarians if it isn't done properly. We need meat regardless of what you say. Except now we need supplements. Not bashing vegos or anything.

And plus my dad is actually unhealthier now than he has ever been and he has only been vego since he met my stepmum. THough that's probably from other reasons

thats because most people go about it all wrong. they are missing out on so many protiens. they don't eat enough beans or peanuts, good sources of protiens. It's why I still eat fish.

[Mcmac]

you mean Chicken Strips? Well of course the skin wouldn't be on those. those are the remnants of egg laying hens that are so decomposed when they die that they can't serve them as whole pieces of chicken. they have to shred up the meat (and bones) and mold them into shapes, like nuggets and strips. But whole pieces of chicken they leave the skin on. and its soooo bad for you.

really thats yuck (n) but i will still eat it coz it taastes good...im the sort of person that cant get put off there food..like i could be eating chocolate ice cream and sum dude could be next to me saying "that is my shit i shitted that out of my ass" and iwiould stil eat it...knowing of course that it isnt his shit...ps im not fat but mendellias mum is

[Humiliation]

no vegaterians are just dumb
dude just shut up. You're obviously the "dumb" one for using such a "dumb" word. You have no basis for your argument

[Medellia]

thats because most people go about it all wrong. they are missing out on so many protiens. they don't eat enough beans or peanuts, good sources of protiens. It's why I still eat fish.
Heh, I think the Catholic church still says that fish aren't real animals, so you're free to eat them! Fish isn't meat!

[Mcmac]

yes he does shut the fuck up u stupid 12 yr old

[Medellia]

ps im not fat but mendellias mum is
1) You misspelled my name.
2) You've never seen my mom.
3) She's not fat.
4) YOUR MOM!!!
5) :p

[Matt]

And why does it bother them anyway? It makes no sense. It's not affecting them, so why should they even care?

eh, it throws them off. it's everything they've been told about meat being turned on it's ear. it's them trying to validate themselves. When someone says "Well, I don't eat meat", most people take it as a personal attack, like the vegetarian is tring to one-up them. I really don't see it this way, though. everyone isn't what they eat.

[Humiliation]

thats because most people go about it all wrong. they are missing out on so many protiens. they don't eat enough beans or peanuts, good sources of protiens. It's why I still eat fish.
He does eat fish. My stepmum is 33 (i think... bad me) and has been a vego since she was 8. I think she's know what to eat ;)

[Medellia]

eh, it throws them off. it's everything they've been told about meat being turned on it's ear. it's them trying to validate themselves. When someone says "Well, I don't eat meat", most people take it as a personal attack, like the vegetarian is tring to one-up them. I really don't see it this way, though. everyone isn't what they eat.
Yeah. That's some pretty lame thinking.

[Matt]

no vegaterians are just dumb

why?

[Matt]

He does eat fish. My stepmum is 33 (i think... bad me) and has been a vego since she was 8. I think she's know what to eat ;)

well, maybe it's because he's not been a vegetarian for very long. he's not adapted to it the way he has. but then again, everyone's body is different. Thats possibly why I've adapted to it so quickly.

[Mcmac]

1) You misspelled my name.
2) You've never seen my mom.
3) She's not fat.
4) YOUR MOM!!!
5) :p

haha! you just couldnt pass that by :D

[Matt]

because there is a food chain for a reason, and when ppl dont follow the food chain IT FUCKS UP. AND YOU NEED FUCKING PROTEIN

I get lots of protien. Beans, fish and peanuts are all great sources of it, and I eat at least two of the three everyday.

and regarding the food chain, you're saying I'm going to fall down it if I don't eat meat? so some other animal is going to eat me?

[Humiliation]

yes he does shut the fuck up u stupid 12 yr old
14 and you say that like it somehow makes me a lesser person.You're obviously the pinnacle of maturity

[Medellia]

because there is a food chain for a reason, and when ppl dont follow the food chain IT FUCKS UP.
How does it fuck up the entire food chain when most people are still meat eaters?
AND YOU NEED FUCKING PROTEIN
The richest sources of protein are animal foods such as chicken, meat, fish, cheese and eggs. However, plant proteins are believed to be healthier because of their lower fat content. Plant protein is found (eg) in beans (esp. soy beans), lentils, nuts, quorn and seeds.

[Matt]

14 and you say that like it somehow makes me a lesser person.You're obviously the pinnacle of maturity

are you really 14? if so, you're by far smarter then most 14 year olds I know.

[Humiliation]

suhtup you dumb fucking 12 yr old. dont you need to go to bed now? its almost 7.30, and you need to wake up early so you can watch spongebob and power-rangers tomorrow morning...
And i'm still more mature than you ooooo.....


And seriously invent something new. I've heard that call at least 100 times in my short life

[Matt]

yeh well enjoy your life eating peanuts then. and pffff your not a real vegetarian you eat fish

who are you to say whats vegetarian and what isn't? there are vegetarians who eat fish, some who eat chicken, even some who eat meat but to a much lesser degree than most people. it's all about perspective.

[Mcmac]

humilation sould leave the board like what a fuckhead

[Matt]

yes but what if they werent?

it's not going to happen. BUT if they wern't, then I'm sure our nice houses will protect us from those deadly cows and chicken and pigs.

[Medellia]

yeh well enjoy your life eating peanuts then. and pffff your not a real vegetarian you eat fish




ps. FUCKING HUMILIATION HE IS 12YRS OLD AND IS STILL SUCKING ON HIS MAMAS TEET FOR MILK
Well like I said earlier, as far as I know, the Catholic church still teaches that fish isn't meat because they aren't really animals, or something. We all know that isn't true, but it's still a loophole.

PS-Does it make you feel like a big man picking on a fourteen year old? Wow, so fucking cool.

[Humiliation]

are you really 14? if so, you're by far smarter then most 14 year olds I know.
why thank you :D

[Mcmac]

And seriously invent something new. I've heard that call at least 100 times in my short life

so you get bagged alot? you must be popular at school then eh!
im pretty sure the comment aushiphopper sed wasnt one that is used a lot in everyday life

[Medellia]

yes but what if they werent?
That's the lamest retort yet.

PS-Matt, hahaha! It's so nice having you back on the board. (y)

[Humiliation]

so you get bagged alot? you must be popular at school then eh!
im pretty sure the comment aushiphopper sed wasnt one that is used a lot in everyday life
watch a movie?

[Mcmac]

whatch a movie? wtf are u on about?

[Mcmac]

this thread makes me want to eat sum meat

[Humiliation]

whatch a movie? wtf are u on about?
about 90 of those 100 times have been in crappy movies. you must have just missed it

[Mcmac]

shut the fuck up..

your so bloody arrogant

[Matt]

or the nice houses will stop us from getting at the chickens n cows inside of them. can you see what im getting at?

yes. you're saying that in order for humans to come out on top, we must be opressive to the point of killing in such mass quantities that it would dawrf even Hitler's best efforts. you don't see the point in living in peace with all creatures, correct?

[Mcmac]

haha ....i never really under stand vegos

[Matt]

no im saying that your a fucking faggot cun tand your a faggot pussy.

ha no really, im saying that god put those animals on this earth to be eaten. so we should eat them

oh man, I HATE when people say that. who says YOU wern't put here to be eaten? And don't say God, because you have no proof God even exists, much less what His supposed intentions are.

[Matt]

i say your a fucking faggot matthew, you say you eat fish. now why is that excluded from the vegatarian shit? because in the catholic RELIGION THAT FOLLOWS GOD says so. you dont beleive in god, yet you live your life by a religion

great work cockfaggot sucker

I never said it was excluded. I said I don't eat red meat or poultry. I eat fish. I never said I don't believe in God, so don't force things on me. I'm not the one who said the Catholic religion excludes fish, in fact I didn't know that until I read it in this thread.

Why are you so angry? I've never done anything to you. you won't gain any friends like that, you lousy fuck.

[Mcmac]

matt u idiot hes not angry hes just fuckin around AND VERY ANGRY but not really

[zorra_chiflada]

is ausiehiphopper mcmac? they sound strangely similar.

anyway, people, there's no need to argue with someone like this. their idiocy already proves them wrong! :) it's like arguing with gmsisko. everyone with half a brain knows they're wrong and they'll never get anyone to agree with them, even on the internet.
thanx for playin! :p

[Rancid_Beasties]

is ausiehiphopper mcmac? they sound strangely similar.

anyway, people, there's no need to argue with someone like this. their idiocy already proves them wrong! :) it's like arguing with gmsisko. everyone with half a brain knows they're wrong and they'll never get anyone to agree with them, even on the internet.
thanx for playin! :p
Zorra, I think that aushiphopper is Haydon, could be wrong.

[zorra_chiflada]

Zorra, I think that aushiphopper is Haydon, could be wrong.

wasn't his IP banned?
this is totally lame. i hate it when there's really annoying people fucking up the board. seriously, why isn't this thread closed? it is a showcase of the idiocy of this board.

[Rancid_Beasties]

wasn't his IP banned?
this is totally lame. i hate it when there's really annoying people fucking up the board. seriously, why isn't this thread closed? it is a showcase of the idiocy of this board.
Theres many many ways to get around your IP being banned, and a bored enough teenager would be able to find them.

[zorra_chiflada]

Theres many many ways to get around your IP being banned, and a bored enough teenager would be able to find them.

come on, it doesn't look like this kid would know how to tie his shoelaces, let alone operate a computer.

[Rancid_Beasties]

come on, it doesn't look like this kid would know how to tie his shoelaces, let alone operate a computer.
You'd be surprised. Its not like you have to hack, you can just download a program that scrambles IPs.

[Mcmac]

zorra shutup you vegetarian :p

[Rancid_Beasties]

Actually you might have a point, if he was haydon, and he has scrambled his ip, he would've just come back the day he got banned and kept coming back. Probably not him. Hes still a bit of twit though.

[Qdrop]

i was just waiting for qdrop to come in here and say how it "defies human nature" or some shit. just cause you don't understand it, you fear it.

i'm still waiting for him to call me "sanctimonious" again. you're gettin there...

people always do this. what people don't understand, they fear. hmmmmmmm..

and this works both ways...for the vegan/vegetarians too...
i find it very interesting that everyone had an issue with "silly vegetarians pushing their views on everyone" but this thread is basically a bunch of idiots bashing vegetarians for no reason at all, and pushing their beliefs on to us. true, this thread has a general lack of intellectual pursiut.

i mean, what the fuck? i don't know if this an american thing or what, but i'd like to know why there is such contempt for particular minorities. yeah, right...like that's an american thing...

[zorra_chiflada]

why can't this fucking thread die a natural death?
what is the deal with all these fucking necromancers digging it up and keep pounding vegetarians, like they didn't get their point across the first time?
are you suggesting that i'm not allowed to defend myself? because it certainly sounds like it.
people's religious beliefs are respected and often congratulated on here, but non-relgious beliefs are continually slammed by idiots who don't know what they're talking about. it makes me fucking sick.

[Qdrop]

the whole "i don't like it when vegetarians push their beliefs down my neck" bullshit is stupid. This thread was made to bash vegetarians. this thread is pretty retarded in that sense....

but don't pretend that vegetarians/vegans don't bash meat eaters and push their believes around...

when's the last time you saw a "EAT MORE MEAT NOW" activist convention or picket line?....


And i'm sure animals would feel mor pain than plants because they have a brain. It isn't perfect but they gotta eat something right? so you are creating a hierarchy?
saying that plants are in someway lesser than animals (in this case: pain), so you should eat plants but not animals.

okay, well if you are going to use such an ungrounded hierarchy...why can't i say that all other animals are less then humans in some way (say, intelligance).....so therefore we eat other animals...but just not humans.

same logic.

if you're hierarchy isn't grounded in something strong....than it's just a "sliderule" that anyone can bend to fit thier own desires....

[Rancid_Beasties]

why can't this fucking thread die a natural death?
what is the deal with all these fucking necromancers digging it up and keep pounding vegetarians, like they didn't get their point across the first time?
are you suggesting that i'm not allowed to defend myself? because it certainly sounds like it.
people's religious beliefs are respected and often congratulated on here, but non-relgious beliefs are continually slammed by idiots who don't know what they're talking about. it makes me fucking sick.
Lets highjack this thread...umm how about that new show celebrity ready steady cook. Talk about B-grade. It was a much cooler when it was on at lunchtime than prime time like it is now.

[Qdrop]

Lets highjack this thread...umm how about that new show celebrity ready steady cook. Talk about B-grade. It was a much cooler when it was on at lunchtime than prime time like it is now.

anything to avoid an intellectual defense of your stance...eh?

[zorra_chiflada]

Lets highjack this thread...umm how about that new show celebrity ready steady cook. Talk about B-grade. It was a much cooler when it was on at lunchtime than prime time like it is now.

ready steady cook? i think i've heard of it, but i'm not sure if i've seen it.

[Rancid_Beasties]

anything to avoid an intellectual defense of your stance...eh?
Actually ready steady cook had relevance today. It was the 2 hosts of Australian idol, one is vegan and the other is a carnivore. And of course the carnivore won, because the vegan dude just bought (you get a $25 budget for like 3 dishes) tofu, hazelnuts and spinach while the other guy bought eye fillet steak, prawns and chocolate. And the crowd was so biased. I mean its not the vegetarian dudes fault that his food wasn't as colourful, they crowd doesnt even get to try the food they just judge on looks.

[zorra_chiflada]

this thread is pretty retarded in that sense....

but don't pretend that vegetarians/vegans don't bash meat eaters and push their believes around...

when's the last time you saw a "EAT MORE MEAT NOW" activist convention or picket line?....



the only reason i can possibly see for meat-eaters being offended is by vegetarian activists is because they feel a sense of guilt, and maybe a bit of alienation, or maybe for some people, even inferiority. these feelings turn into hatred

[adam_f]

This thread is a surprising amount of pages long.

[ms.peachy]

the only reason i can possibly see for meat-eaters being offended is by vegetarian activists is because they feel a sense of guilt, and maybe a bit of alienation, or maybe for some people, even inferiority. these feelings turn into hatred
It's not so much offended as just annoyed. Like, shut up already. What do I care if you don't eat meat, that's your choice. But don't be hanging around yelling at other people. That's just rude.

[Rancid_Beasties]

the only reason i can possibly see for meat-eaters being offended is by vegetarian activists is because they feel a sense of guilt, and maybe a bit of alienation, or maybe for some people, even inferiority. these feelings turn into hatred
How about them hives? I'm going to see them again in like october...its going to be nuts. You guys so shoulda come to bdo and saw them...insane!!

[zorra_chiflada]

It's not so much offended as just annoyed. Like, shut up already. What do I care if you don't eat meat, that's your choice. But don't be hanging around yelling at other people. That's just rude.

well, it affects some people really deeply. people will always protest against what they feel are great injustices. would you say protesting against war is rude?

[zorra_chiflada]

How about them hives? I'm going to see them again in like october...its going to be nuts. You guys so shoulda come to bdo and saw them...insane!!

really? are they fun?
oh, i missed out on falls festival tickets as well :( fuck it. i didn't even know that they were on sale.

[Rancid_Beasties]

really? are they fun?
oh, i missed out on falls festival tickets as well :( fuck it. i didn't even know that they were on sale.
Yes. The Hives are fun. Like so fun every single person in the crowd was smiling, whether you liked the hives or not. Greatest live act of our era.
I have a falls festival ticket but I have to work new years. How fucked is that :(

[ms.peachy]

well, it affects some people really deeply. people will always protest against what they feel are great injustices. would you say protesting against war is rude?
Protesting against a war generally involves marching on government buildings, or holding mass rallies in a public forum. That's fine. But yelling at people going into or out of shops, telling them what they should or shouldn't buy with their own money is rude, yes. I have no problem with mounting a public information campaign - buy all the adspace you want. Write all the magazine articles you like. But hanging outside the supermarket waving signs just looks like a bunch of ill mannered children.

[Qdrop]

the only reason i can possibly see for meat-eaters being offended is by vegetarian activists is because they feel a sense of guilt, and maybe a bit of alienation, or maybe for some people, even inferiority. these feelings turn into hatred

ha! and you call me arrogant....
inferiority?

you see, you really are far cockier than me....
you actually think you are in some way superior to meat eaters, don't you?

smuggness at it's fullest.

oh wait....it's time.....SANCTIMONIOUS!!

it's so easy to expose you sometimes...


as if meat eaters yelling at vegans is ignorant abuse....but vegans protesting eating meat is just a healthy exercise in righteous free speech.

Zorra, if you were any more bias to one side....you'd fall over.

[zorra_chiflada]

Yes. The Hives are fun. Like so fun every single person in the crowd was smiling, whether you liked the hives or not. Greatest live act of our era.
I have a falls festival ticket but I have to work new years. How fucked is that :(

really fucked :(

[Qdrop]

But hanging outside the supermarket waving signs just looks like a bunch of ill mannered children.

BAM!

[Rancid_Beasties]

really fucked :(
Yeah I have to work till 11pm. So I miss out on all the parties for the second year in a row, and no public holiday bonus.

But I'm going to Merideth music festival though, which is the greatest music festival.

[zorra_chiflada]

ha! and you call me arrogant....
inferiority?

you see, you a far cockier than me....
you actually think you are in some way superior to meat eaters, don't you?

smuggness at it's fullest.

oh wait....it's time.....SANCTIMONIOUS!!


as if meat eaters yelling at vegans is ignorant abuse....but vegans protesting eating meat is just a health exercise in righteous free speech.

Zorra, if you were any more bias to one side....you'd fall over.

jesus christ q, do you only read what you want to? yes!
i said SOME people may have feelings of inferiority. did i say that YOU had feelings of inferiority? NO, I DIDN'T. fuck knows why you call me sanctimonious.
in no way would i express the abuse in this thread to anyone non-vegetarian. as if i could and get away with it.
you're reading what you want into this, your arguments are lame.

and calling me smug, oh please :rolleyes:

[zorra_chiflada]

BAM!

these kind of posts are ridiculous and lame, like two college jocks high fiving each other.

can you see the ridiculousness and unfairness of this thread?
every time i post something in my defense, there's a dozen people jumping on my back telling me that i'm wrong, stupid, or santicimonious.

[Rancid_Beasties]

these kind of posts are ridiculous and lame, like two college jocks high fiving each other.
*High fives zorra*

Pinkos for life dawg :) (y)

[Qdrop]

i said SOME people may have feelings of inferiority. did i say that YOU had feelings of inferiority? NO, I DIDN'T. fuck knows why you call me sanctimonious.


that's right, zorra...BACKPEDDLE! BACKPEDDLE! FASTER FASTER!








why in the fuck would ANYONE feel inferior to a vegan? the fact that you even typed that completely shows your transparent bias....that is so outta left field and presumptious....

[zorra_chiflada]

*High fives zorra*

Pinkos for life dawg :) (y)

*skulls beer*
*fucks blonde chick*

nah, seriously, what i find funny about the word "Pinko" is that no-one knows what it actually means and just throws it any anyone remotely left-wing.
it actually means "watered-down red," i'm very bright red, thankyou :)

[Qdrop]

these kind of posts are ridiculous and lame, like two college jocks high fiving each other.

can you see the ridiculousness and unfairness of this thread?
every time i post something in my defense, there's a dozen people jumping on my back telling me that i'm wrong, stupid, or santicimonious.

you can either:
1. stop whining and defend youself like an adult.
2. run away and surrender.
3. take some of the criticism to heart and re-examine your own views.



(i would like to pay close attention to #1....)

[ms.peachy]

these kind of posts are ridiculous and lame, like two college jocks high fiving each other.

can you see the ridiculousness and unfairness of this thread?
every time i post something in my defense, there's a dozen people jumping on my back telling me that i'm wrong, stupid, or santicimonious.
in my defense, I only started posting in this thread after it had already reached 11 pages, and I only read pages 1 and 11 - to see how it started and if it was still on topic by the end. Which it appeared to be, so I added my opinion. I'm sorry if you feel attacked zorra, I honestly don't know what went on in pages 2-10 so if you were getting hammered already I'm sorry if you feel I was just adding fuel to the fire. But this is the nature of the message board beast - anyone can chime in at any time with any opinion.

[Rancid_Beasties]

Hmmm I never really knew what pinko meant. Cheers for that zorra.

you can either:
1. stop whining and defend youself like an adult.
2. run away and surrender.
3. take some of the criticism to heart and re-examine your own views.




(i would like to pay close attention to #1....)
Run away!! Run away!!

Bring out the holy hand grenade!

[zorra_chiflada]

that's right, zorra...BACKPEDDLE! BACKPEDDLE! FASTER FASTER!








why in the fuck would ANYONE feel inferior to a vegan? the fact that you even typed that completely shows your transparent bias....that is so outta left field and presumptious....

:confused:
um, well i don't know what you're on about with your silly metaphors. are they supposed to help your argument? i don't get your sense of humour sometimes :confused:

as i said, people fear what they don't understand. maybe they look at someone that is making concious choices to live life say, by more "ethical" standards, and they want to as well, but don't know how, don't know where to start.

calling me biased is ridiculous. having lived as a vegetarian and as a non vegetarian, it is impossible for me to not see the two sides of it. so you can quit that already.

[Freebasser]

you can either:
1. stop whining and defend youself like an adult.
2. run away and surrender.
3. take some of the criticism to heart and re-examine your own views.



(i would like to pay close attention to #1....)

Wouldn't it be more adult to just leave it be, rather than keep on arguing, huh, oh great one?

Of course not. You are Qdrop after all.

[ms.peachy]

maybe they look at someone that is making concious choices to live life say, by more "ethical" standards
...
calling me biased is ridiculous
*cocks an eyebrow* no hypocrisy or intimations of superiority there, eh?

[zorra_chiflada]

you can either:
1. stop whining and defend youself like an adult.
2. run away and surrender.
3. take some of the criticism to heart and re-examine your own views.



(i would like to pay close attention to #1....)


i was hardly whining :rolleyes:
again, calling me childish, please :rolleyes:
you posting "bam!" after someone posts something is hardly the benchmark of maturity, you've got to admit that.
actually, what i was saying was really further demonstrating my own point about treatment about vegetarians.
quite simply, they're not doing anything wrong, so fuck off. :)

[zorra_chiflada]

*cocks an eyebrow* no hypocrisy or intimations of superiority there, eh?

no. it's hard to use terms that won't offend someone. that's why i put the word "ethically" in inverted commas.
my views are not from the supposed "ethical" standpoint anyway, i was just defending the people who are. :)

[Rancid_Beasties]

Well you cant say I didn't try to highjack this thread :(

[zorra_chiflada]

Well you cant say I didn't try to highjack this thread :(

i know. :(
hey, sbs weather watch is on, where they show the map of australia and play classical music! cool!

[Qdrop]

:confused:
um, well i don't know what you're on about with your silly metaphors. are they supposed to help your argument? i don't get your sense of humour sometimes :confused: well, that's your fault then....
perhaps i should dumb it down a shade?

as i said, people fear what they don't understand. that goes both ways

maybe they look at someone that is making concious choices to live life say, by more "ethical" standards, and they want to as well, but don't know how, don't know where to start.

"more ethical"?

you see, this is why i call you sanctimonious. THIS is why you are the epitome of that word.

so now being a vegan is "more ethical"?

and now those people that push back against vegan activists are just secretly in wanting of making a change themselves?

do you hear yourself?
this just goes right over your head, huh?

[ms.peachy]

no. it's hard to use terms that won't offend someone. that's why i put the word "ethically" in inverted commas.
my views are not from the supposed "ethical" standpoint anyway, i was just defending the people who are. :)
I can accept that explanation, but I do think it was a very poorly worded paragraph. First it implies that rejection of vegetarianism is based in fear and ignorance, and then that vegetarians live more 'ethical' lives than the rest of us savages. In other words, I get that you were trying to play devil's advocate, but it could have been better defined.

[Freebasser]

All I can say is "horses for courses" and with that I will use my incisors for their purpose and go and eat something meat-based because I'm bloody starvin'.

Maybe a horse?

[zorra_chiflada]

well, that's your fault then....
perhaps i should dumb it down a shade?



no thankyou, just leave it out. it doesn't work, smart or no. :)


"more ethical"?

you see, this is why i call you sanctimonious. THIS is why you are the epitimy of that word.

so now being a vegan is "more ethical"?

see my post above on this. notice why i put it in inverted commas.


and now those people that push back against vegan activists are just secretly just in wanting of making a change themselves?

do you hear yourself?
this just goes right over your head, huh?

i've known people, and known of people who feel this way. don't tell me it doesn't exist.
anyway, you've taken out ONE point i've said and focused on that. we've talked it to death.
what else bothers you about my lifestyle?

[Rancid_Beasties]

i know. :(
hey, sbs weather watch is on, where they show the map of australia and play classical music! cool!
Arghhh so is that lame hotdogs show. So poor, like big brother up late minus big brother and the host and all the contestants except hotdogs. :(

[Rancid_Beasties]

Ally McBeal is on too :(

[zorra_chiflada]

I can accept that explanation, but I do think it was a very poorly worded paragraph. First it implies that rejection of vegetarianism is based in fear and ignorance, and then that vegetarians live more 'ethical' lives than the rest of us savages. In other words, I get that you were trying to play devil's advocate, but it could have been better defined.

it was only one suggestion of a point i was mentioning. it seems like a reasonable suggestion that could be applied to some people, not all.
yeah, i'm not an activist, but i'm speaking from what their point of view would be.
q drop is taking some pretty neutral, open suggestions i made and then accusing me of saying everyone has an inferiority complex. this is not the case at all. i'm not backpeddling. as we all know, it's hard to convey exactly what you mean by typing on a keyboard.

[Nuzzolese]

I think cinnamon candy gives me heartburn but I'm not sure if that's possible.

[Qdrop]

okay, flat out, Zorra....

how do YOU feel about this?

do YOU feel that vegans/vegetarians are more "ethical"?

do YOU feel that that vegan protesters/activists are just doing what's right?
Or what they just *think* is right?

do YOU feel that the meat eaters who get angry at them are just ignorant, and/or just angry at themselves and repressing thier desire to change and be more....ummm..."ethical"?

how do YOU feel?

[zorra_chiflada]

okay, flat out, Zorra....

how do YOU feel about this?

do YOU feel that vegans/vegetarians are more "ethical"?

do YOU feel that that vegan protesters/activists are just doing what's right?
Or what they just *think* is right?

do YOU feel that the meat eaters who get angry at them are just ignorant, and/or just angry at themselves and repressing thier desire to change and be more....ummm..."ethical"?

how do YOU feel?

me? well, since my reasons are dietary and taste, i can honestly say that "ethics" are not my primary concern. when it comes to hard-core activists, some of their own "ethics" are questionable.
a lot of protesters do what they think is right - it is harder to judge what is right.

but this really isn't about me, this is about defending the activists that are out there that are misinterpreted.
as i said, i really can't understand why people get so angry at vegetarians, but envy or confusion or misinterpretation of their lifestyle are plausible reasons.

[Qdrop]

Wouldn't it be more adult to just leave it be, rather than keep on arguing, huh, oh great one?

Of course not. You are Qdrop after all.

don't act surprised.....

you know my steez......

[Qdrop]

as i said, i really can't understand why people get so angry at vegetarians, but envy or confusion or misinterpretation of their lifestyle are plausible reasons.

you don't think "just plain ANNOYANCE at thier pompous, self-righteous, grandstanding" could be a reason too?

[zorra_chiflada]

you don't think "just plain ANNOYANCE at thier pompous, self-righteous, grandstanding" could be a reason too?

the ones that are self-righteous are few and far between.
i don't know, i've never (in real life) experienced anyone directly annoyed at my vegetarianism, but that's probably i doubt if any people at all in real life know that i'm a vegetarian. it's not the only thing in my life, it's just a small aspect. i think when it becomes your life, the bad attitute comes.

[Qdrop]

the ones that are self-righteous are few and far between.

and i think the meat-eaters that bash on vegans are few and far between too.

it's all a matter of perception.

[cosmo105]

you've got to be kidding. i get ragged on ALL the time for being vegan, and i rarely bring it up in conversation.

[Nuzzolese]

People usually want an explanation from someone who doesn't eat meat, though. I am starting to think that everything at McDonald's is made out of the same stuff, a highly maleable man made substance called McFood that they can manipulate and flavor into various shapes to represent cheese, eggs, bread, fries, beef, chicken, milk shakes...except Shamrock Shakes which are made from the pulverised condensed feet flesh of leprechaun whores. And like commercial buffet Chinese food, it's loaded with something addictive because if I have something from there, I crave it over the next three days but if I let that pass I go back to finding it unappetizing. Steak & Shake doesn't do this to me so I think they're okay.

Why do I always hear about vegetarians smelling and tasting weird? I don't eat meat and I don't think I smell weird. No one has told me I smell weird. Do you think they'd tell me?

[cosmo105]

Shamrock Shakes?? what do they have in them, Bailey's?


p.s. i've never been told i smell like anything except heaven, but i have been told that i taste sweeter and lighter than others.

[Nuzzolese]

I was watching a "documentary" on modern day vampires that was included in the underworld special edition dvd, and one particular "vampire" said that the blood of non-smoking vegans and vegetarians tasted the best. So there, plant lovers do have fans.

[Nuzzolese]

Shamrock Shakes?? what do they have in them, Bailey's?

No, I told you, just pulverized leprechaun whore foot flesh and mop water. Maybe also Green #7 or something.

[cosmo105]

probably because it has the least amount of toxins in it. i feel a little better about myself now that i know that those dorks that call themselves vampires and always carry 12-sided dice in their pocket think i'm desirable.

[cosmo105]

No, I told you, just pulverized leprechaun whore foot flesh and mop water. Maybe also Green #7 or something.
ahh, the stuff of dreams and fairytales.

[Nuzzolese]

Where does this come from, this talk I hear of vegetarians smelling different? I've heard it from various people. I could understand if you ate garlic and onions all the time, smelling a certain way because of your food, but meat? Have you at least heard anyone say anything about vegetarians and smelling? I've heard it like 5 times at least, all from men, probably just creepy cocky guys who want to sound like their palate for women is so sophisticated and refined that they can detect eating habits by smell, like they're some kind of Sherlock Holmes, or Al Pacino in Scent of a woman, or Hannibal Lecter. I've heard men say it online, on TV, and in person. It's like those guys who say redheads smell and taste "funny"

[cosmo105]

redheads are just evil, and that's what they smell

evil

maybe they smell the good vibes coming off veggies and think they must be commies or something, or maybe these vegetarians don't shower all that often. i've never gotten anything except "your skin looks great, what do you do to it"

[Kid Presentable]

Where does this come from, this talk I hear of vegetarians smelling different? I've heard it from various people. I could understand if you ate garlic and onions all the time, smelling a certain way because of your food, but meat? Have you at least heard anyone say anything about vegetarians and smelling? I've heard it like 5 times at least, all from men, probably just creepy cocky guys who want to sound like their palate for women is so sophisticated and refined that they can detect eating habits by smell, like they're some kind of Sherlock Holmes, or Al Pacino in Scent of a woman, or Hannibal Lecter. I've heard men say it online, on TV, and in person. It's like those guys who say redheads smell and taste "funny"

Refer to 'Meat Sweats'.

[Nuzzolese]

Refer to 'Meat Sweats'.

lol. is that something you get?

[Nuzzolese]

redheads are just evil, and that's what they smell

evil


They smell the hurt and abuse inflicted upon them by "Ginger" teasing Brits.

[Kid Presentable]

lol. is that something you get?

Just about everything I do causes 'Sweats'. I'll probably leave a trail of mourners a metre long.

[Nuzzolese]

Just about everything I do causes 'Sweats'. I'll probably leave a trail of mourners a metre long.

as long as you leave something long


(I don't even know what that's supposed to mean)

[Kid Presentable]

as long as you leave something long


(I don't even know what that's supposed to mean)

You don't shower with it... :(

[Echewta]

Red head is the new pink.

[P of R]

I'm a vegetarian.


EDIT: Hey Zorra and Cosmo, come to Sweden. Vegetarians are accepted here. :cool:

[Qdrop]

you've got to be kidding. i get ragged on ALL the time for being vegan, and i rarely bring it up in conversation.

yeah, but honeslty....when you say "getting ragged"...how bad is it?
just a comment or 2?

it's not like people are picketing outside of vegetarian restaraunts.....calling you a plant killer.

[g-mile7]

well...i should say "flawed" when they attempt to place it on anyone but themselves (or in a universal sense).
but it's still shakey, regardless.

no other animal on this planet is as mentally or emotionally complex as humans.

define "alive".

you mean, as in "nervous system" pain?
i believe it's been shown that some plants appear to have rudimentary nervous systems...that react to damaging stimuli.

you don't love plants? why not? (i actually have a point in saying that. i'm not just being a wise-ass).



thats true it is logically flawed...which I tried to make clear, but thats me.



the thing I was trying to get an F'n answer from, from people who do pratice and know about it. Didnt get it, basically to me from what I have read and heard is either 3 things:

Morals/Ethics: its not right to kill animals and eat them for food, I guess the reason becasue as many vegans/veggies ahve said that I have been round is that its not a pretty sight how they raise and kill the animals (gutting, slitting the throat and lettign it bleed to death) or the fact that many "cute" animals are being killed for food, note I am not a supporter of killing animals for sport AT ALL (so there you are animal activist) I am higly against that but there is a diffrence between eating, its a basic primla urge instill into us either by god or program. The typical answer, I know, is that we are mor civilized then the animal kingdom, why should we revert back into are primal urges thus defeating evoultuion? The fact is that who we are, people been eating meat since the time of the bible before everyone decided to become PC bout shit.

Health: Some people need to eat just veggies for various reason such as heart/chlestrol and so forth, thus the reason they are vegans becasue they have to. For many though its becasue they either dont agree with how the meat is processed or how it introduces blood (becasue you cant cook it all out) from an animal that could make them sick, thus the whole Mad cow scarce. But the fact is there are many nutrients from MEat that veggies no matter what you say or what pills you be poppin cant replace. It is fact. Plus Veggies no matter how organic you say it is, still have some risk of contimants, after all the shit you eat was basically created from shit, if you understand any basic knowledge of how plants and food from mother earth grows (thus the adage that we never trully die for you could very well be eating a an apple that had a worm that ate parts of elvis, gross I know but bare with me)

Social: Also the fact that all of sudden it is the IN thing to do, these are the people I really dont respect, just being vegans or what not casue they are trying to rebel against the system or becasue they see that Pam Lee or Moby dont like meat. Frankly I really do feel that some, if not the majority, of the supposed crusaders for animals are really just doing it becasue they dont want to be conformist....which is exactlly what they are doing in the first place, conforming


So in other words, yes Cosmo or whoever is a vegan I know alot for someone who doesnt practice Veganism. I have done reports on both the food industry as meat and veggies and from what I have read (The Jungle the most famous of them all, The Pathlogical Protein, Food Fight, and The Demon in the Freezer which features a boy who was raised Vegan all his life untill he finally had his frist burger at camp which was dropped on the ground, thus making it a deadly having to have his intestines removed from his body, washed, and put back inside yikes) so if you think I dont know anything at all, from what it seemed like to the response I recieved, your wrong but I do not know as much as those who do, I am an outsider looking in. I really dont see the point of it, I really dont doesnt mean I dont respect it though, espically if the person is sincere about there choice


In the end Alice Walker said something that "the animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men." (supirsed I knew that huh some of you?) which saids alot for the cause


so I hope that shows a little bit more info about the subject from someone who doesnt really think its all that benifical.


really though I say that we use animals everyday, wheter for food or not. Once again nobody, from what I see, is attacking these beliefs, just wanting to know a little bit more about something that is intresting.

[cosmo105]

yeah, but honeslty....when you say "getting ragged"...how bad is it?
just a comment or 2?

it's not like people are picketing outside of vegetarian restaraunts.....calling you a plant killer.
well, yeah, but i don't do that to meat-eaters. in fact, i have never said anything derogatory to non-vegetarians, and i never would.

when people say shit to me about it, usually i let it slide. sometimes, though, people get so rude about it and it really upsets me...it's not like i'm bothering them. there was one guy that shopped at my store that would bring it up every single time he came in, saying vegans and vegetarians are stupid and unhealthy, pretending he didn't know i was one...he did it just to bother me. after a while i would stop refuting him and just gave up. he was the one with diabetes and constantly breaking bones and getting infections :rolleyes:

i do get shit about it a lot. look at what the jackasses in this thread have said. it's exactly like that. usually it's joking, but there's always a hint of superiority behind it, and it gets irritating.

[adam_f]

It's a proven fact that non-vegans are awesomer than vegans!!!!!!!!!OMGROFLBBQSUNDAE!

[Echewta]

Family Member: Try these spare ribs
Me: No thank you
FM: They are really good!
Me: I don't eat meat, remember? Thank you though
FM: Why don't you eat meat? Where do you get protein?
Me: *sigh* *puts down fork*

Family member: Here, chicken wings
Me: No thanks
FM: Oh thats right you are still a veg.
Me: Yup
FM: But chicken is so good!
Me: *smiles*

I've never said

Me: You are still eating meat? Why?

Me: How is your colon doing since you are still packing in the beef?

etc.

[g-mile7]

well, yeah, but i don't do that to meat-eaters. in fact, i have never said anything derogatory to non-vegetarians, and i never would.

when people say shit to me about it, usually i let it slide. sometimes, though, people get so rude about it and it really upsets me...it's not like i'm bothering them. there was one guy that shopped at my store that would bring it up every single time he came in, saying vegans and vegetarians are stupid and unhealthy, pretending he didn't know i was one...he did it just to bother me. after a while i would stop refuting him and just gave up. he was the one with diabetes and constantly breaking bones and getting infections :rolleyes:

i do get shit about it a lot. look at what the jackasses in this thread have said. it's exactly like that. usually it's joking, but there's always a hint of superiority behind it, and it gets irritating.




really though they mostly are the ones who DONT KNOW SHIT about what they talkin about. At least some of us in this thread, at least Im trying to be I dont know if you getting that vibe or not, trying to understand your culture (cuz it is) a lil better, only so much you can get from books and documentaries without talking to the source

[Qdrop]

the average vegetarian lives much longer than the average meat-eater, and has virtually no chance of heart disease.

where the hell did you get this little gem from, btw?
i mean i could on go for a page on how medically and statistically flawed that statment it, and how irresponsible and unethical it is for you to spout it....

jeesh, cosmo...


see, this is what i really hate....
the thinly vieled superiority....

[cosmo105]

you just don't like me

[Lex Diamonds]

You know that thing people do where they don't use a full stop to add impact to a sentence?




cosmo just did it

[cosmo105]

it's true

[Qdrop]

you just don't like me

you gonna answer the question?

[cosmo105]

if i'm wrong, ok. that's fine. i've heard those statements over and over again and maybe they really are false. you can't say that being vegetarian doesn't have any positive health benefits. i don't really want to get dragged into a pointless argument with you, so if you're right, that's fine, i don't care.

[Qdrop]

if i'm wrong, ok. that's fine. i've heard those statements over and over again and maybe they really are false. you can't say that being vegetarian doesn't have any positive health benefits. i don't really want to get dragged into a pointless argument with you, so if you're right, that's fine, i don't care.

then don't blab about what you don't know.

especially when you stated it as a fact back there.



i've seen you attack other people for doing this.





whenever the subject of nutritional health comes up on this board, you're all over it...spouting nugget after nugget of "cosmo nutritional facts"....
yet your only experiance is working in some herb and suppliment store....no schooling of anykind....medical or nutritional.

stay in your lane.

[cosmo105]

hahaha

ok.

[Lex Diamonds]

Man, that QDrop guy sure hates it when people get their statistics wrong. I'm glad he's here to make sure all the posts on this message board are 100% factually correct. How would we manage without him?!!

[g-mile7]

then don't blab about what you don't know.

especially when you stated it as a fact back there.



i've seen you attack other people for doing this.





whenever the subject of nutritional health comes up on this board, you're all over it...spouting nugget after nugget of "cosmo nutritional facts"....
yet your only experiance is working in some herb and suppliment store....no schooling of anykind....medical or nutritional.

stay in your lane.


in the wrods of cosmo:

move on, man. it's just a messageboard.


which still doesnt answer any questions haha

[Qdrop]

Man, that QDrop guy sure hates it when people get their statistics wrong. I'm glad he's here to make sure all the posts on this message board are 100% factually correct. How would we manage without him?!!

cosmo's a big girl.

why don't you let her handle her own biz....

[Nuzzolese]

who cares about your questions? move on, man, it's just a messageboard.

[Lex Diamonds]

cosmo's a big girl.

why don't you let her handle her own biz....
I'm just telling it how I see it. Why don't you back up off these ladies for once, start a fight with someone who deserves it. Or just find something better to do than arguing on the internet. (y)

[Qdrop]

who cares about your questions? move on, man, it's just a messageboard.

you realize that statement can and will be used against many times in the future.....right?

the ever wonderful quote-copy-paste.....

[Qdrop]

I'm just telling it how I see it. Why don't you back up off these ladies for once, start a fight with someone who deserves it. cosmo deserves it. more than most.

Or just find something better to do than arguing on the internet. there is nothing better.












i kid.


(y)

(y)

[Nuzzolese]

you realize that statement can and will be used against many times in the future.....right?

the ever wonderful quote-copy-paste.....

I think you're a little late on that bandwagon

Still, move on man, it's just a messageboard

[g-mile7]

who cares about your questions? move on, man, it's just a messageboard.


I dont see why everybody acting like this shit asking them to commit murder damn. Last time I checked this was supposed to be a disscussion, I would think someone who trully believes in ANYTHING wouldnt hesitate to talk someone ear bout it, example the homie Qdrop. I cant speak for him, maybe he is just casuing trouble, but fuck I really wanted to know more about it from someone who practices this belief, instead I have got shit but half/smart ass remarks and a whole bunch of bullshit that can be taken so many ways cuz its so vague. But whatever...I guess in the end people who try to be diffrent arent so diffrent then the people they ahte at all.oh well why cry dry yo ear

[Nuzzolese]

now that's the pot calling the kettle black, last time I checked that's just your opinion and this is just a messageboard on the internet go outside and get off the computer, you really care way too much about this

[g-mile7]

now that's the pot calling the kettle black, last time I checked that's just your opinion and this is just a messageboard on the internet go outside and get off the computer, you really care way too much about this


wow Im suprised you trying to get at me like that. Wow I actaully thought you'd see where Im coming from. And last time I check this pot is black. Whats my opinion? That I didnt get any good feedback from the people knowledgable on it? Lats time I checked I've kept my insults to a low and have just stated facts/opinions. Dont come at me with that "Qdrop attack" that youn used with him


also I never once said that anyone who is vegan/ vegatarian was dumb/wrong for doing it. Never once. Keep that in mind

[Nuzzolese]

It's just a message board man, move on. INTERNET LOL






(I'm sorry, I've only been kidding with the past 3 posts, just saying the meaningless phrases I see thrown around all the time. In fact here's another one...LEARN TO TAKE A JOKE! ....No but really, you don't actually have to learn to take a joke and nothing I said earlier meant anything so don't take it seriously I was only being silly)

[g-mile7]

It's just a message board man, move on. INTERNET LOL






(I'm sorry, I've only been kidding with the past 3 posts, just saying the meaningless phrases I see thrown around all the time. In fact here's another one...LEARN TO TAKE A JOKE! ....No but really, you don't actually have to learn to take a joke and nothing I said earlier meant anything so don't take it seriously I was only being silly)


some joke, sorry I just dont like getting shit when I came into this thread for reason not to start a fight. But I guess that doesnt even matter either.

[adam_f]

All this talk about this being a messageboard should just stop. This thread is a discussion on the various effects of vegatarianism and whether or not it's healthy/worthwhile/whatever. If you had this conversation in real life, you wouldn't dismiss it as a conversation. You'd all probably listen and respond and listen and respond. Just because this is an alternate format of discussion doesn't mean that it's not credible. All of these bullshit smartass remarks at each other are just that: bullshit. Rather than dismissing or ignoring what the other person has said, respond with something other than 'cosmo deserves it. more than most.' All that's accomplished is the fact that you can't grow up. Honest to God, a four year old would say that.

I know, I haven't said anything remotely related to this topic in this thread prior. Mainly because it seems certain people on here would rather attack than respect.

[Nuzzolese]

YES! This is a VERY serious discussion so shape up yall!

[Nuzzolese]

some joke, sorry I just dont like getting shit when I came into this thread for reason not to start a fight. But I guess that doesnt even matter either.

yeah SOME joke. What a bitch that nuzzo is, starting shit when came into thread for reason to have serious questions answered.

[100% ILL]

It really doesn't matter if the vegans eat meat or not. There are many uses for the parts of a cow, including make up, bone meal, and dog food. And lets not forget the leather.

The American Cattleman's Association

[cosmo105]

one note i'd like to add: not all learning is done in a school. there's a thing called experience and research...both of which i have and have done, and lots of it.

i said "calm down, it's only a messageboard" because g-mile was bringing up some things i said in threads long ago that he took as me having some negative attitude toward him, and i thought it was kind of silly.

and seriously, guys, i'm getting tired of you all talking about my weight. now i'm a big girl? not lol. :mad:

[adam_f]

edit: fuck it. didn't make sense anyway.

[Qdrop]

one note i'd like to add: not all learning is done in a school. there's a thing called experience and research...both of which i have and have done, and lots of it.



really?
tell me about your research?
you mean, like studies or expirements?

or googling stuff on the internet?

[cosmo105]

no, not googling :rolleyes: in fact, i don't trust much i read on the internet as far as health and nutrition. a lot of what you see online is actually advertising for a specific product.

besides learning from my superiors at my store whenever i would ask them a question, i also have done a lot of my own research in health and nutritional books - references, guides, etc. i couldn't begin to tell you how many books i have and have read on the subject. i've become a bit of an expert on Crohn's Disease, heh. basically, whenever a customer had a question i couldn't answer, i'd look it up in one of our numerous reference books and study it in detail until i knew it well. i've also learned a lot from the customers. you don't have to follow my advice if you don't want to, i'm only ever giving suggestions for people based on what i know has worked for me and others...

[Qdrop]

besides learning from my superiors at my store whenever i would ask them a question, i also have done a lot of my own research in health and nutritional books - references, guides, etc. i couldn't begin to tell you how many books i have and have read on the subject. i've become a bit of an expert on Crohn's Disease, heh. basically, whenever a customer had a question i couldn't answer, i'd look it up in one of our numerous reference books and study it in detail until i knew it well. i've also learned a lot from the customers. you don't have to follow my advice if you don't want to, i'm only ever giving suggestions for people based on what i know has worked for me and others...

fair enough, to a point.

i mean, i read alot about lots of differant subjects and love to spout all the time (obviously)...

but again, it comes down to
1. what referances and sources you are using: who wrote these books you are referancing? what are thier qualifications?
i think i've made my opinion known before on the "science" of herbal remedies and the lot.
there is actually very little science involved...and usually alot more false marketing praying on the ignorant.

look at some of the books,etc you referance in your herbal store...
who wrote them? you may see a "M.D."...but when do a little research into their medical background, you often find that M.D. is from some uncredited herbology university....probably online.
much of the knowledge about herbs and suppliments are opinion and folklore...not science

2. talk about what you know: if you spout shit like "the average vegetarian lives much longer than the average meat-eater, and has virtually no chance of heart disease." becaues you "heard people say it"...why should anyone believe what you have say about Crohn's disease or nutritional health?

[cosmo105]

that one statistic i probably heard from PETA, which, in that case, i'd strike from the record.

as far as Crohn's...i've done research on that, both natural and pharmaceutical. Steger's been off prescription meds for about 8 months now and he's only had about 2 flare-ups, which is even better than his track record with meds. so we must be doing something right.

stop saying "herbal." herbs are not all i deal with. in fact, i don't put all that much stock in them. vitamins, minerals, and amino acids are more what i look into. herbs can be helpful but they are temporary remedies and not dietary supplements. if i'm interested in an herb, i look up clinical trials of them to see their worth. i'm especially interested in anti-inflammatory herbs, and have studied a lot of those in dealing with Crohn's.

the authors i trust are true M.D.s, not just naturopaths or herbalists. that and nutritionists...which i am going to school to become.

[Qdrop]

that one statistic i probably heard from PETA, which, in that case, i'd strike from the record. striken.

as far as Crohn's...i've done research on that, both natural and pharmaceutical. Steger's been off prescription meds for about 8 months now and he's only had about 2 flare-ups, which is even better than his track record with meds. so we must be doing something right.oh, i don't doubt you know your shit on that.
i have close friends who suffer from it, and have tested for it myself.

it's a terrrible fucking affliction.

stop saying "herbal." herbs are not all i deal with. in fact, i don't put all that much stock in them. vitamins, minerals, and amino acids are more what i look into. better then herbal "science", but still very debatable studies as well.

herbs can be helpful but they are temporary remedies and not dietary supplements. if i'm interested in an herb, i look up clinical trials of them to see their worth. ahh...my faith in you is restored. (i'm sure you're sooooo relieved to here that)


the authors i trust are true M.D.s, not just naturopaths or herbalists. that and nutritionists well that's better.

...which i am going to school to become. i thought your were going to for photography?

[cosmo105]

i was. but i decided that i wasn't really going anywhere with that, and it was more of a hobby. i'm not competitive enough to pursue a career in that, and i don't want to starve or make steger pay for everything.

i'm especially proud of the success we've had with his case. really, i want to study everything i can about it because i want to cure it, or at least keep him in remission forever. he has to live to be a ripe, senile old age with me :)

[Echewta]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0915811812/qid=1124742796/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4605182-0553610?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[Qdrop]

i was. but i decided that i wasn't really going anywhere with that, and it was more of a hobby. i'm not competitive enough to pursue a career in that, and i don't want to starve or make steger pay for everything.


yeah, that's why i pretty much left my Fine Arts Illustration bachelor degree behind and moved into printing....

[zorra_chiflada]

It really doesn't matter if the vegans eat meat or not. There are many uses for the parts of a cow, including make up, bone meal, and dog food. And lets not forget the leather.

The American Cattleman's Association


i think it would be naive to believe that less demand of meat would be less supply. that's not really the point of being vegetarian/vegan.

[QueenAdrock]

I think I'd be a vegetarian if there was some kind of delicious plant-like animal that I could kill and then consume.

And what are vegetarians' thoughts on the venus-fly trap? Are they immoral too, or just hungry like the rest of us?

[zorra_chiflada]

see, this is what i really hate....
the thinly vieled superiority....

if you've proved anything, it's that you will accuse anyone of acting superior when they're doing something different to you.
both of us have explained our reasons, and i've explained how some activists feel, and you just keep throwing that "do you really think you're better than us" attitude.

[zorra_chiflada]

I think I'd be a vegetarian if there was some kind of delicious plant-like animal that I could kill and then consume.

And what are vegetarians' thoughts on the venus-fly trap? Are they immoral too, or just hungry like the rest of us?

no-one's immoral. that's a term that some people who have very strong beliefs who do judge others would use.
i still wear brand name shoes, i drink soft drinks, i am in absolutely no place to say anyone else is immoral.

[cubsfirstplace]

ahahahahha (http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/7pixels_over/TOFU.jpg)

[QueenAdrock]

no-one's immoral. that's a term that some people who have very strong beliefs who do judge others would use.
i still wear brand name shoes, i drink soft drinks, i am in absolutely no place to say anyone else is immoral.

(y) good deal.

I've had some veggies in the past tell me that I'm wrong for eating meat, when I don't tell them they're wrong for not eating meat, or telling them they're wrong because they drive a Honda and shop at Wal-Mart and support the man.

Then again, I did bring a bucket of fried chicken to my cousin's picnic, so that's probably where the whole 'you suck for eating meat' came from, since it was a cous-cous and salad gig only.

Whateva, I was hongry i just needed me some fried chicken :(

[zorra_chiflada]

I'm just telling it how I see it. Why don't you back up off these ladies for once, start a fight with someone who deserves it. Or just find something better to do than arguing on the internet. (y)

but arguing with a 19 year old girl makes him feel like such a man! :p
he's "putting me in my place"!

[GetYourWarOn]

free range, above organic meats are where it's at. believe this.

[QueenAdrock]

is that where they have the animals not pumped full of hormones?

The Potomac Conservancy had a picnic that I volunteered at, and everything was catered by Whole Foods, which means free free-range and organic food for all. It was fuckin' SWEET.

[GetYourWarOn]

is that where they have the animals not pumped full of hormones?




yeah, and they aren't locked up in confined spaces either. they live normal lives...at least until they are killed and chopped up into ground meat.

[cubsfirstplace]

rrrrr, i should have made this thread a poll! now im pissed! :mad:

[QueenAdrock]

yeah, and they aren't locked up in confined spaces either. they live normal lives...at least until they are killed and chopped up into ground meat.

See, when I have children, I'm going to make sure they're free-range. I'm not going to force them into these small cribs or cramped playpens. I'm going to let them run free in the backyard, with all the other animals!

I'll probably save a bunch of money on diapers too.

[Documad]

see, this is what i really hate....
the thinly vieled superiority....
Yes, you prefer your superiority when it's not veiled at all. :rolleyes:


I can't believe the shit in this thread. Who cares what other people eat?

Lots of people mock vegetarians and vegans. But it mostly seems to come from people who wish they had the dedication to stick with some kind of a diet themselves (whether low fat, low calorie, diabetic, or whatever). Seems like they just can't understand how anyone has the discipline to make more difficult choices.

[zorra_chiflada]

Lots of people mock vegetarians and vegans. But it mostly seems to come from people who wish they had the dedication to stick with some kind of a diet themselves (whether low fat, low calorie, diabetic, or whatever). Seems like they just can't understand how anyone has the discipline to make more difficult choices.

that's what i was saying (but i didn't word it as well as you)
somehow that was turned into me saying "i'm better than everyone else" :confused:
i need to learn how to write things better, i suppose.

[QueenAdrock]

YOU SUPERIOR BITCHES NEED TO TAKE YOUR HATE-MONGERING ELSEWHERE :mad:


<3

[GetYourWarOn]

YOU SUPERIOR BITCHES NEED TO TAKE YOUR HATE-MONGERING ELSEWHERE :mad:


<3

[zorra_chiflada]

*mongers hate*

LOL! you can't stop me ROFL!

[Documad]

YOU SUPERIOR BITCHES NEED TO TAKE YOUR HATE-MONGERING ELSEWHERE :mad:


<3
:p I think you're the greatest!


What's funny to me is that cosmo's supposedly militant but she's been consistently on record here about not caring what choices other people make re meat (and she's anti-nutball), and Zorra's supposed to be a crusader but I had no idea she was a vegetarian until this thread. :D


As usual, this thread reveals far more about the people who got pissed off at the vegetarians.

[Mr. Boomin'Granny]

um everyone knows i eat meat right? i don't feel bad about it.

She only rats on me if it's not organic. but that's because she loves my jock.


Plus if i ate her diet, i would be in intensive care right now.

[Humiliation]

just cause you don't understand it, you fear it.
If you're agreeing and saying it is against human nature i must correct you. It obviously isn't against human nature if they have the ability to do it themselves

[cosmo105]

What's funny to me is that cosmo's supposedly militant but she's been consistently on record here about not caring what choices other people make re meat (and she's anti-nutball), and Zorra's supposed to be a crusader but I had no idea she was a vegetarian until this thread. :D
oh yeah, i'm such a meat nazi.

ZE TOFU EEZ THE PERFECT RACE OF ZE FOOD! YOU VILL EAT ZE CAULFLOWER VERY GOOD NOW HAUFLAGAUTENZAGGUSTEN!

[Humiliation]

Where does this come from, this talk I hear of vegetarians smelling different? I've heard it from various people. I could understand if you ate garlic and onions all the time, smelling a certain way because of your food, but meat? Have you at least heard anyone say anything about vegetarians and smelling? I've heard it like 5 times at least, all from men, probably just creepy cocky guys who want to sound like their palate for women is so sophisticated and refined that they can detect eating habits by smell, like they're some kind of Sherlock Holmes, or Al Pacino in Scent of a woman, or Hannibal Lecter. I've heard men say it online, on TV, and in person. It's like those guys who say redheads smell and taste "funny"
Red meat makes your sperm taste bad

[ms.peachy]

free range, above organic meats are where it's at. believe this.
totally (y) This is where just about all of my meat comes from - (http://www.wellhungmeat.com/) I get a box delivered monthly and it is lovely.

[Humiliation]

totally (y) This is where just about all of my meat comes from - (http://www.wellhungmeat.com/) I get a box delivered monthly and it is lovely.
aww cute piggy

[Qdrop]

but arguing with a 19 year old girl makes him feel like such a man! :p
he's "putting me in my place"!

so are you saying that being a 19 year old girl makes you unworthy of my attention in debate?

you see that you are mocking yourself, right?


of course you don't.

[Qdrop]

Yes, you prefer your superiority when it's not veiled at all. :rolleyes: actually, yeah.


I can't believe the shit in this thread. Who cares what other people eat? most of of us DON'T care.
don't confuse simple debate and conversation with moral dissonance.

Lots of people mock vegetarians and vegans. and lots of vegans mock meat eaters....get over it.

But it mostly seems to come from people who wish they had the dedication to stick with some kind of a diet themselves (whether low fat, low calorie, diabetic, or whatever). Seems like they just can't understand how anyone has the discipline to make more difficult choices.
see, again with the "they're just jealous" bullshit.

so yes:
...you prefer your superiority when it's not veiled at all. :rolleyes:

[Qdrop]

If you're agreeing and saying it is against human nature i must correct you. It obviously isn't against human nature if they have the ability to do it themselves

dude, what are you talking about?
i'm saying the opposite...

do you even read these threads before you post?

[g-mile7]

one note i'd like to add: not all learning is done in a school. there's a thing called experience and research...both of which i have and have done, and lots of it.

i said "calm down, it's only a messageboard" because g-mile was bringing up some things i said in threads long ago that he took as me having some negative attitude toward him, and i thought it was kind of silly.

and seriously, guys, i'm getting tired of you all talking about my weight. now i'm a big girl? not lol. :mad:


the only reason I brought it up was because it seems like you have had an attitude towards me ever since I put out that I felt people were just letting shit slide and you answer, your very firts response to my question, made it seem like you still were being an ass towards me. Not silly, just showing that it aint the first time, but fuck it I'll just send you a PM then.

[g-mile7]

yeah SOME joke. What a bitch that nuzzo is, starting shit when came into thread for reason to have serious questions answered.


ok then...I sure hope you ARE joking ;)

[g-mile7]

All this talk about this being a messageboard should just stop. This thread is a discussion on the various effects of vegatarianism and whether or not it's healthy/worthwhile/whatever. If you had this conversation in real life, you wouldn't dismiss it as a conversation. You'd all probably listen and respond and listen and respond. Just because this is an alternate format of discussion doesn't mean that it's not credible. All of these bullshit smartass remarks at each other are just that: bullshit. Rather than dismissing or ignoring what the other person has said, respond with something other than 'cosmo deserves it. more than most.' All that's accomplished is the fact that you can't grow up. Honest to God, a four year old would say that.

I know, I haven't said anything remotely related to this topic in this thread prior. Mainly because it seems certain people on here would rather attack than respect.



thanks for that, glad to see someone understand the context of my wonder. maybe now some people will get right with there questions/answers

[Echewta]

Everyone should just eat and be done with it.

[Kid Presentable]

thanks for that, glad to see someone understand the context of my wonder. maybe now some people will get right with there questions/answers

God forbid someone were stupid enough to understand one of your posts.


I'm joking, naturally.

[voltanapricot]

oh yeah, i'm such a meat nazi.

ZE TOFU EEZ THE PERFECT RACE OF ZE FOOD! YOU VILL EAT ZE CAULFLOWER VERY GOOD NOW HAUFLAGAUTENZAGGUSTEN!
LOL (http://home.graffiti.net/dethtoll/lolocaust.gif)

[g-mile7]

God forbid someone were stupid enough to understand one of your posts.


I'm joking, naturally.


god forbid I take someone serious whose avatar is Mr. Daredevil himself...but god forbid you even understand that post



Im joking, naturally

[Kid Presentable]

god forbid I take someone serious whose avatar is Mr. Daredevil himself...but god forbid you even understand that post



Im joking, naturally

lol

[Medellia]

What's funny to me is that cosmo's supposedly militant but she's been consistently on record here about not caring what choices other people make re meat (and she's anti-nutball), and Zorra's supposed to be a crusader but I had no idea she was a vegetarian until this thread. :D
Exactly. If they were as militant as people make them out to be, why would they both be in relationships with meat eaters?

[Lindsey_1535]

MOM:Now I know you’re not a meat eater, but how do you feel about steak tonight?
Lindsey: No thanks....
M:So what do you want for dinner then? We have left over spaghetti.
L: Does the sauce have meat in it?
M: Yes. What are you a Vagan?
L: No I'm a vegetarian, and it’s a vegan.
M: Whatever....



Later
Mom: How do you feel about vagans?
Lindsey: It’s their choice no bigge....and its vegan.
M: Well as long as their getting the right vitamins, I mean it’s kinda like a person who eats at McDonalds all the time.
L:...... :confused:

[like2_drink]

i'm boicotting kfc, and beginning to rethink milk and eggs, but i really don't eat that much steak as is.

[zorra_chiflada]

so are you saying that being a 19 year old girl makes you unworthy of my attention in debate?

you see that you are mocking yourself, right?


of course you don't.

*ahem*
earlier in this thread you were saying i was childish.
in previous threads you said that i didn't have my own opinions and my immaturity made me an political discussion ameteur.
now you're saying i'm a worthy competitor.

which one is it, huh?

[GetYourWarOn]

*ahem*
earlier in this thread you were saying i was childish.
in previous threads you said that i didn't have my own opinions and my immaturity made me an political discussion ameteur.
now you're saying i'm a worthy competitor.

which one is it, huh?

you want me to kick his ass or something? (y)

[GetYourWarOn]

MOM:Now I know you’re not a meat eater, but how do you feel about steak tonight?
Lindsey: No thanks....
M:So what do you want for dinner then? We have left over spaghetti.
L: Does the sauce have meat in it?
M: Yes. What are you a Vagan?
L: No I'm a vegetarian, and it’s a vegan.
M: Whatever....



Later
Mom: How do you feel about vagans?
Lindsey: It’s their choice no bigge....and its vegan.
M: Well as long as their getting the right vitamins, I mean it’s kinda like a person who eats at McDonalds all the time.
L:...... :confused:


i <3 your mom.

[zorra_chiflada]

you want me to kick his ass or something? (y)

haha! are you my security guard?

[Humiliation]

dude, what are you talking about?
i'm saying the opposite...

do you even read these threads before you post?
I even said if you were agreeing with it.

Your input into this thread is totally out of order. All you're doing is picking something to argue about and arguing it even if it doesn't matter.

There are times when your presence isn't wanted

[Qdrop]

now you're saying i'm a worthy competitor.



no i'm not.

[Qdrop]

There are times when your presence isn't wanted

that's so funny! i was thinking the SAME THING ABOUT YOU!!

[Echewta]

I know you dont eat meat but how about steak tonight. hahaha. thats great.

[Nuzzolese]

"what you mean you don't eat meat? Huh. Okay, then I make lamb."

from My Big Fat Greek Wedding

[Lindsey_1535]

Well that woman who wrote that play was from Winnipeg.

[Nuzzolese]

I was lucky I guess. My family was never a big meat family - only for my younger brother who is a skinny athletic teenager who doesn't like most vegetables so I think for him it's a good idea to eat meat.

Anyway, when I gradually let my family know I didn't want meat - I never announced my decision, I just refused meat and gradually changed my lifestyle, they were so into it. Now they make vegetarian stuff all the time and they call me and say things like "I made a big lasagne, it's vegetarian, if you want some." And they have always suggested things and been very conscious of it. They're so lovely.

I do get some shit for being vegetarian but only from morons. Most of the time it's the opposite. People are intrigued and supportive. In fact most of my experiences involve people being so accomodating and conscientious of it that I feel almost guilty. I never want people to go out of their way or compromise for me. It's my choice, it's my responsibility...I don't even want to make it an issue at meal times - unless people are just interested.

Often my friends will be scanning menus and be concerned and ask me "is there anything here for you?"

How precious!

[Nuzzolese]

Well that woman who wrote that play was from Winnipeg.

It looked like they filmed the movie in Toronto. They film a lot of stuff there though.

[Lindsey_1535]

Oh they didn't film here only really bad movies like Shall We Dance are filmed here.

[Echewta]

Oh they didn't film here only really bad movies like Shall We Dance are filmed here.

The Japanese version is so much better. Stupid America.

[Nuzzolese]

The Japanese version is so much better. Stupid America.

the book was better. stupid illiterati

[Matt]

the book was better. stupid illiterati

only in it's original German.

[Nuzzolese]

only in it's original German.

So rare! The first edition.

[Yeti]

i'm boicotting kfc, and beginning to rethink milk and eggs, but i really don't eat that much steak as is.

Who was the first person to say---See that chicken over there ... I'm gonna eat the first thing that comes out if it's butt?

[Matt]

So rare! The first edition.

Yes, the one with the fold-in on the back cover. You'd be lucky to find an unfolded one. I was that lucky :cool:

just FYI, the fold-in is Kelly Clarkson and Ashlee Simpson shooting heroin into each other's feet.

[TonsOfFun]

I'm veggie.

[zorra_chiflada]

no i'm not.

ooh, you flamed me!
that's right! put me in my place! :p

but seriously, listen to youself. you wouldn't shut up about how "i think i'm better than everyone else" for posting some neutral, vague observation, but YOU ACTUALLY DO THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN EVERYONE HERE, and you admit to it a lot of threads you post in.

[Documad]

Your input into this thread is totally out of order. All you're doing is picking something to argue about and arguing it even if it doesn't matter.
If qdrop didn't do that, his post count would still be in 2 figures. :p


Last fall, I went to LA with a friend who had just started eating meat again after 15 years of being meat free. She's way more familiar with LA than I am so when she felt strongly about picking the restaurant for our first dinner, I let her. It was pretty awful, and I noticed at least 3 places in the same block that looked far more interesting. Half way through the meal, she said that she couldn't think why she liked the place so much. I said, "because there's almost no meat on the menu?" Yeah, that was it.

[cubsfirstplace]

zorra, why do u argue with everyone on here?
every post i read of yours is you arguing with someone different

[zorra_chiflada]

zorra, why do u argue with everyone on here?
every post i read of yours is you arguing with someone different

what in this thread or in general? i think you might find there's a few people arguing on here. but, i know you're singling me out because you don't like me. carry on.

if you think that i am the only person that argues with everyone, you obviously haven't read much of the board

[Tzar]

zorra, why do u argue with everyone on here?
every post i read of yours is you arguing with someone different

*steps out from behind zorra*

she doesn't argue with everyone on here. the only arguing i've seen from her is in this thread.

*stands back behind zorra*

[zorra_chiflada]

[Tzar]

[zorra_chiflada]

yeah, sorry that was a mistake :o

[DrumSetMan]

*steps out from behind zorra*

she doesn't argue with everyone on here. the only arguing i've seen from her is in this thread.

*stands back behind zorra*

ha ha ha ha, he was talking about her arguing with everyone on here(this thread) which you said she was!

Tzar "the only arguing i've seen from her is in this thread."

[DrumSetMan]

(y) good deal.

I've had some veggies in the past tell me that I'm wrong for eating meat, when I don't tell them they're wrong for not eating meat, or telling them they're wrong because they drive a Honda and shop at Wal-Mart and support the man.

Then again, I did bring a bucket of fried chicken to my cousin's picnic, so that's probably where the whole 'you suck for eating meat' came from, since it was a cous-cous and salad gig only.

Whateva, I was hongry i just needed me some fried chicken :(


lol it doesnt matter eating only salads is LAME

[DrumSetMan]

I know you dont eat meat but how about steak tonight. hahaha. thats great.

YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM how bout sum chicken quesadillas
or steak quesadillas
now im just dreamn cuz its 10:44 pm and i dont think i wanna make em.
or maybe a salomi sandwich,,,o!!! no A CHEESEBURGER !!!! why golly i am fucking hungry now!

[Medellia]

YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM how bout sum chicken quesadillas
or steak quesadillas
now im just dreamn cuz its 10:44 pm and i dont think i wanna make em.
or maybe a salomi sandwich,,,o!!! no A CHEESEBURGER !!!! why golly i am fucking hungry now!
Yeah, and the vegetarians are the ones that are supposed to be rude and thrust their views on the meat eaters. :rolleyes:

[DrumSetMan]

So rare! The first edition.

this is a thread about!"how many of you are vegetarians?" not O LETS READ literature

so back to the topic im not one!!!!=) no tofu for me

[DrumSetMan]

Yeah, and the vegetarians are the ones that are supposed to be rude and thrust their views on the meat eaters. :rolleyes:

no sorry lol i was actually dreamin cuz i am really hungry now because Echewtas post i couldnt help it i get really hungry at night
but i usually eat cheese at night lol

[Humiliation]

that's so funny! i was thinking the SAME THING ABOUT YOU!!
At least i have a decent point unlike your "plants are just as good as animals". All in all it is seemed (that could clearly be untrue) than animals suffer more than plants, more specifically in battery farming. They eat plants because you've GOT to eat SOMETHING

[Qdrop]

At least i have a decent point unlike your "plants are just as good as animals". All in all it is seemed (that could clearly be untrue) than animals suffer more than plants, more specifically in battery farming. They eat plants because you've GOT to eat SOMETHING

you know, i could just tear that simplistic logic to shreds...

but why bother?....it would be lost on you.

[Qdrop]

ooh, you flamed me!
that's right! put me in my place! :p without even breaking a sweat.

but seriously, listen to youself. you wouldn't shut up about how "i think i'm better than everyone else" for posting some neutral, vague observation,
even others commented on how it was NOT very neutral.


but YOU ACTUALLY DO THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN EVERYONE HERE, and you admit to it a lot of threads you post in. think i'm "better"?

i think i'm smarter and put more effort into my thought than alot of people on here.
i think that makes me a better debater than many....and i'll have a deeper understanding and stronger convictions about many topics...

but i don't think that makes me a better person than any of you.


there is nothing wrong with thinking you are smarter than someone else....particularly if it's very evident.
that doesn't automatically make you an egotistical asshole.

we are not all equal in that regard. that's life.

[Nuzzolese]

i think i'm smarter and put more effort into my thought than alot of people on here.


My thought doesn't even require any effort, that's why I'm a genius.

[Qdrop]

My thought doesn't even require any effort, that's why I'm a genius.

see, SELF EVIDENT.


good for you!

[Documad]

i think i'm smarter and put more effort into my thought than alot of people on here.
i think that makes me a better debater than many....and i'll have a deeper understanding and stronger convictions about many topics...

but i don't think that makes me a better person than any of you.


there is nothing wrong with thinking you are smarter than someone else....particularly if it's very evident.
that doesn't automatically make you an egotistical asshole.

we are not all equal in that regard. that's life.
Wow. I have to say, that I don't see it. I haven't been reading your stuff for very long--I didn't read in the political forum for most of the past year, but it's not apparent to me that you're smarter or a better debater. You may very well have stronger convictions because that's impossible to judge in this venue.

I'm not saying that you're not smart. It's just that I know a lot of very smart people and you don't carry yourself like one. You seem to resort to put downs rather than logical arguments. You don't seem to listen to the viewpoints of others. You seem to place no value on members who say some really smart shit. Those are usually signs of people who aren't super smart.

I actually enjoy you a lot and I've wondered what the deal is with you. I mostly wonder whether the techniques you use here actually work in the real world. I'd gamble that you just haven't been exposed to a very diverse group of people who truly challenge you (in a good way). I think that if we met in person, we'd either get along super duper well, or you'ld collapse in a puddle. I'm not sure which. But I bet we'd get along well. I love opinionated people.

I don't think there is anything wrong with saying you're smart, btw. But there are all kinds of smart. Book smart is the least valuable kind of smart. People smart is the most valuable.

And if you were truly smart, you would have never assumed that I was confused by your posts. :p

[CrankItUp!]

How does all this bullshit pertain to a person's chosen diet ? :confused:

[Tzar]

ha ha ha ha, he was talking about her arguing with everyone on here(this thread) which you said she was!

Tzar "the only arguing i've seen from her is in this thread."

you have a lovely mouth....



can you take your pants off, please....

[Humiliation]

you know, i could just tear that simplistic logic to shreds...

but why bother?....it would be lost on you.
try me. You seem to know a lot about what you're talking about.

I'd also like to add that you're post are open to a lot of misinterpretation. THis is evident in all your "when did i say that" bs that comes up. Most of the time i agree with the person on their point only to find out that i had made the same mistake they had and read it wrong

[munichGirl]

in real life i dont know any vegetarians (ive only met one in my life)
but on here it seems like half of you guys are silly vegetarians
i am vegetarian!!

[cubsfirstplace]

cosmo, are those daily vitamin pills worth the money??? :confused: :confused: